DONT call players CHAMPIONS 

That’s because the concept of being called champion had already been burrowed into the minds of the players. Because once you call us heroes now there is an expectation that we don’t need to go collect 3 grapes for farmer Jeff. I’m not sure how to go about progressing our status in lore though.

mate who hurt you that much ? i bet you don't even know 3 names from the writing staff, i don't. They are just doing their job, if you want to be mad, blame the suits.

@@paniago82 nah in recent history there were various writers who stated racial bias, sexist views, and other malcontent concepts taht i just find to be indicative of narcissistic disorder some have been known to be overtly toxic on twitter, they half bake stories, they just dont do a good job and belittle people all the time.

​@@paniago82 Don't bother. This person is projecting. They're an identitarian, there is little reasoning to be done with people like that, they don't even know what a narcissist is medically. They just use the term because others do.

@@torch1028 pretty narcissistic of you to dx people with NPD when you know jack shit about psychology and definitely aren't a licensed clinician

I kinda disagree, I think it works in FF14 because the character is written that way from the start and the game's antagonists work around you well because although you're the strongest/most important figure you can only be in one place at a time which lets other characters shine and the antagonist still feel threatening. It also makes it so when the WoL takes a genuine loss its pretty impactful and humanizes the WoL more. Its not perfect but I think its so much better than games like WoW or Skyrim where the game simultaneously treats you as the bad ass chosen one but also a no named loser depending on what quest/location you are in. Consistency is the most important.

There really is only one thing that makes your character unique in FF14, and that that you are immune to tempering. There are plenty of characters who are on par with you, or even better, but no matter how good they are, they can't face Primals. That is why you are "the chosen one". When it comes to other parts of the story such as the war with the Empire, you are one very skilled fighter among many. There are also plenty of times where you fail, just as with pretty much every other game you eventually turn it around.

@@ganymeade275 you got power from collecting all the 8 shiny stones, got a piece of a dragon god(for a while) and got another blessing from hydaelyn. also have the soul of another WoL inside of you. it has been shown in cutscene that yes these are narrative power ups. no they struggled hard to even defeating a primal before you. they use to have to send groups of people to kill one and will take insane amount of losses. I think in the main story there is only 1 time someone other than you is sent to fight a primal. it has never been shown any of the scions come close to you in power. there is only 1 character that has came close to you in power and thats zeno. like to the point where the main bad guy bird thing as the end of endwalker wasn't even enough of a fight to make the WoL need to rest or refuse to fight zeno right there. story wise the fight with zeno took the most out of our character and we needed to "break our limits like only the WoL can" like the buff we get in story point is literally main character power up buff. in the raid's lore wise we are doing it all solo. we have killed things that could destroy the source. I am hoping the story in dawn trail goes down the road of de goding us because we are a walking god at this point.

@@spyfire242 it's gotten better but pre stormblood. we where the only one to be able to do anything. like I truly disliked the story pre stormblood for that reason. I hate any story the revolves around one person being the only person who can do anything. and I understand that more personal taste because some people like that idea. but before zeno was a thing. we never lost a fight and TBH most of our losses where more forced. because we have seen what our character can do but in a cut scene our character just stands there like D:. i'm sorry but Haurchefant's death is just dumb. our super human of a character can't move or react to a single attack that is a loud beam of light? dude had the time to warn us. run to us and block for us while we where just like D:. LOL its so bad. P.S. I love this game but most of the character deaths are just so bad. dont get me started on Papalymo death.

this comment chain REALLY confirms to me that people only see what they want to see in a story(even if its negative aspects) Massive spoilers for FFXIV obviously up to current patch the only 3 features that makes us "special" in XIV are the blessing, The echo, and being a Shard of a convocation member The Shard part is the least important aspect, only relevant to explain why certain characters react to us a ceratin way, and to explain our characters deep seated inability to sit still for 5 minutes and not go off into a random adventure. The game also specificaly calls out that we are NOT azem, just a shard of their sould, we are our own being, just as every reflection is its own being, seperate from the whole that once was. the echo and the blessing are interconnected, and we are not the only one with the Echo, Minfilia being a major example in 2.0 of someone with the echo. Its what allows us to see glimpses of the past , and its awakend by a vision/recreation of the Final days of the ancients. in our case, a vision granted to us when we picked up our first Crystal of Light(which are also not unique to us, altough us collecting all of them instead of a party collecting one each is unique to us due to the MMO nature) its an uncommon, but not unique power, several scions have it, several antagonist have it, either naturall or artifical. the blessing of light, is the only actual unique element(as far as active named characters go, several primals in 2.0 indicate that we are not the first person with the "blessing of light" on us, (ifrits "among the godless blessed numbers" when he is unable to temper us)). This is what allows us to remain untemperd in front of a Primal. primal fights are bloody affairs, not because the primals are especially strong(altought they are) but because if you send 20 people in, 20 people will come out temperd, even if they managed to strike the Primal down, its not that they arent strong enough, but regardless of how many you send, the vast majority will be temperd, and at that time tempering was Ireversable, so they had to be put to death. The Admiral could have likely defeated Leviathan herself if it wasnt for the threat of tempering for example. Any of the Scions(bar maybe alphinau and alisea till like SHB) are a match for any primal, but cant risk being tempered so they stand back. As evidence by the one fight we CAN take them with us... against the mothercrystal herself... Where they are more then competent and shown to be more then an equal to one of the oldest and strongest primals. Gameplay and story wise, in 2.0 we where, except primal fights, never alone, operation archon(the strike against castrum meridianum and Praetorium) where specifically designed around "the Wol and his adventurer friends" most current dungeons since SHB canonicly are done with the trust system, having the companions with us Beyond 2.0, we are rarely a driving force beyond combat, we are the "muscle" of the operation, we are important to the effort, and we are trusted, but we arent the only important member. Without Yshotala, or frankly anyone (but lyse maybe) the fights we had would have ended badly. WE are strong, but we arent the only valuable character in the squad our Strongest moment was, as you stated, against Zenos. but not only did he use the EXACT same powerup we did, with getting up several times, we where also in a space nearly devoid of Aether, where dynamis, the Energy influenced by emotion, reigned supreme, a force that has already been proven to be immensly powerfull, and we arent even the one that used it the most "creativly" in the scions. fucking thancreed used it to convert himself into air for us to breath for crying out loud.. lorewise we also arent doing the raid series in endwalker solo for example, we are using the Azem Crystal(one of the few times this is even relevant) to invoke companions, which isnt our power, but the power of the Crystal Several characters in the game have beaten our ass despite not even remotly "godlike", whats his name from SHB(the old guy with the snake dragon thingy) being a MAJOR example, he was, relativly speaking, a normal person, and he completly obliterated us, despite us being FAR FAR more aetherically dense and thus technicalyl "stronger" then him We also arent just "gifted" the powers beyond the blessing of light(which, once again, only allowed us to be able to face primals, not defeat them), each of the Crystals of light we gatherd wasnt just "handed to us" but given to us after we defeated a boss. Our deeds manifest the crystals, they wherent just handed out. Even Midgardsomr helping us wasnt just becasue "well he is her chosen one so gotta fuck it" but because we, beyond that, have proven ourself in combat against him, and showed that we can overcome loosing our powers granted to us by the Crystals of light. We arent a walking god, and even against primals the most we get is (by now) immunity to instant defeat via tempering. Yes we are special in XIV, but only in a very one track way. Most of our exploits, achivements, and strenght isnt from us being "super special boy" but by in universe hard training and skill.