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Tier 11's SHOCKING Results! | Hardest Boss? Easiest Heroic? | Classic WoW 

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The second reset has just gone by, which for me means its raid review time! Today we will be delving into the stats for tier 11, seeing which bosses were hardest and whether the opening tier of Catacylsm has lived up to its reputation for difficulty.
This is Tier 11's SHOCKING Results | Hardest Boss? Easiest Hardmode? | Classic WoW
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@WillEmmo
@WillEmmo 3 месяца назад
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@tdakara
@tdakara 3 месяца назад
The hardest part about Magmaw is that half the time he slams the wrong direction and can't be atttacked by melee at all lol...
@Razedcold
@Razedcold 3 месяца назад
Hotfixed on NA realms as of today
@andromidius
@andromidius 3 месяца назад
For me its the melee repeatedly standing out too far and getting hit with the magma attack, putting the adds into melee. As someone on kite/kill duty... Its vexing. Very vexing.
@jpbarry93
@jpbarry93 3 месяца назад
Maloriak is worse than you think. The developer intended strat is that we go through 2 cycles of his potions, dealing with 9 small adds in each. He has less than half of the HP he should. No one has the self control to do it that way anymore.
@parkerfrode5101
@parkerfrode5101 3 месяца назад
We don’t do that(25h). We just do each potion once. Deal with a ton of adds. Bear tank bis for adds. Rough with a dk on adds tho
@Klaital1
@Klaital1 3 месяца назад
How we usually do it is free 12 adds during first cycle, aoe them down during green phase, then just have dps kill the remaining 6 adds as soon as they are released, not waiting for second green phase, and then just nuke the boss.
@loganmoody5806
@loganmoody5806 3 месяца назад
Cataclysm is hands down my favorite wow expansion since vanilla. I didn't play it the first time around (i stopped playing after wrath last time), and Im shocked how much i enjoy cata.
@derekjanisch584
@derekjanisch584 3 месяца назад
It definitely doesn’t deserve the rap that it had. Cata has been fun for me as well.
@fritzschnitzmueller3768
@fritzschnitzmueller3768 3 месяца назад
The dungeons are just kinda crap imo
@randomrandom7208
@randomrandom7208 3 месяца назад
if it's true i feal realy sorry for you, because this expansion is shit
@derekjanisch584
@derekjanisch584 3 месяца назад
@@randomrandom7208 You feel sorry because they are having fun... and you are not? Checks out.
@lookherelooklisten3078
@lookherelooklisten3078 3 месяца назад
@@randomrandom7208yet you are watching a Cata vid and leaving a comment . You are the real sad one here
@OGNord
@OGNord 3 месяца назад
Remember, it’s not post-nerf. It’s pre-nerf hotfixed.
@Jess_being_myself
@Jess_being_myself 3 месяца назад
Oh they switched it back to pre-nerf?
@Ztygs
@Ztygs 3 месяца назад
@@Jess_being_myself It always was.
@TheChunkinator69
@TheChunkinator69 3 месяца назад
it is post nerf, we were just mistaken about what actually was nerfed back in the day
@evilcanofcorn
@evilcanofcorn 3 месяца назад
its nerfed mechanics with unnerfed HP and damage
@TheChunkinator69
@TheChunkinator69 3 месяца назад
@@evilcanofcorn it’s not, if you actually look at old patch notes they never nerfed heroic hp and damage, only normal
@VividVoid
@VividVoid 3 месяца назад
I'm liking Cata. It's nice to re-experience the raids I never got to do or finish back in the day. Since raiding is all I personally care about. Even if it's not the exact same.
@popojaga7312
@popojaga7312 3 месяца назад
Happy to see people realized how good cata t11 is based on comments, in past i played t11 twice on bigger private servers and it was pure blast. Dont see myself getting as much fun as i got from feral druid as off tank catweaving and doing good dps
@ryanmullen483
@ryanmullen483 3 месяца назад
T11 been my favorite since classic launch so far
@loganmoody5806
@loganmoody5806 3 месяца назад
Same.
@SoyDrinker
@SoyDrinker 3 месяца назад
It's literally just better WOTLK with better class design and raids.
@ryanmullen483
@ryanmullen483 3 месяца назад
@@SoyDrinker facts
@gumis123PL
@gumis123PL 3 месяца назад
why don't you just play retail? i mean serious question. if you just enjoy the raiding experience i imagine you would enjoy retail more as you have fresh content to learn every patch, rather than playing something which as already been theorycrafted to death
@ryanmullen483
@ryanmullen483 3 месяца назад
@gumis123PL fair question. I raided mythic in WoD Legion and BFA and while I did enjoy the challenge I also found keeping a team together is significantly harder especially once you get roughly halfway through a raid as the bosses get harder and harder. Groups that push further towards the real end bosses tend to raid more and as a father of 3 young ones I found it's difficult to add any more than just 2 nights a week to devote for a raid. You might then ask why not just do heroic raids cause that's also comparable to cata raids but I've found simply being in a team that only clears heroics and has no real aspirations for mythic leaves me dissatisfied as I know their is better gear I can acquire and I don't feel im getting my character to where I want him. Cata right now is scratching that itch of pushing for the best gear while doing content that requires prog but isn't so hard that the roster is a revolving door of players/new faces. It's also much less stressful this way. And with raiding in modern I'd have to keep up more with M+ which I do enjoy but again it's more of a time commitment than I can make in my life right now
@TastyScotch
@TastyScotch 3 месяца назад
This video kind of hit hard lol. Since i started in classic ive been in a guild that cleared the highest content. Maybe not full clear by the time this video came out, but we’d be well on our way, with maybe one or 2 bosses left (m’uru and KJ come to mind 😂). But our struggle with burnout during HLK prog ultimately did us in (guild broke up before we even got to the 30% buff). So now in cata, our guild is barely 10 people who stuck around. We full cleared normal both weeks, but we still havent done a heroic boss yet. And no 25man content at all. Cata still fun though. 👍
@gollese
@gollese 3 месяца назад
Its a big gap, but never give up. The progression are fun af rather than jump in and 1 shot bosses.
@LZKS
@LZKS 3 месяца назад
Many guilds broke up before clearing HLK. I used to play many toons across different levels of guilds, and half the guilds straight up just dissolved when they couldn't wait for 30% buff any longer. They should've ramped up the buff faster to prevent this. Highest level guild I was in cleared HLK at 5%.
@ArchangelThunderbird
@ArchangelThunderbird 3 месяца назад
6:07 also magmaw was bugged (and is hotfixed since june 11th). Magmaw will no longer fall backwards during Impale, preventing players from doing damage.
@pa7764
@pa7764 3 месяца назад
I raided on reset June 12th, in the B-team of a new guild, and we had Magmaw fall backwards. Not attackable by ranged or melee unless there was some very specific spot we missed for ranged to reach.
@justinperry8445
@justinperry8445 3 месяца назад
This has been the best way to play raid wise since classic launch you can be literally anything no real meme specs like before you were kinda restricted couldn’t be a boomie or anything
@MSnow-pu4qs
@MSnow-pu4qs 3 месяца назад
I mean, there's fury warrior, the meme spec of 4.3.4 balance.
@randomrandom7208
@randomrandom7208 3 месяца назад
Lol half of the specs is meme, if i see elem or moonkin in the raid i 100% know RL is moron.
@lookherelooklisten3078
@lookherelooklisten3078 3 месяца назад
@@randomrandom7208ele is a top dps right now just say you are clueless and move on lol
@JeyKalda
@JeyKalda 3 месяца назад
@@lookherelooklisten3078 not only clueless but also an a-hole
@randomrandom7208
@randomrandom7208 3 месяца назад
@@lookherelooklisten3078 They are currently 5th so you are wrong and they have no scalling so each weak they will drop lower. Damn, why are retards like you even allowed to speak and not used as slaves in uranium mines?
@KsanUwU
@KsanUwU 3 месяца назад
Didn't bother mentioning Omnitron and Magmaw being bugged. Magmaw decided to faceplant in the wrong direction on half the time on our pulls so we couldn't get a hc kill on the first week. And Omnitron had permanently 3 bosses active at all times.
@dogswifty7800
@dogswifty7800 3 месяца назад
These things exist in retail still, they never fixed it back in the day
@Goldeneye3336
@Goldeneye3336 3 месяца назад
Omnitron 32 bosses = you did not do mechanics
@up-fh5su
@up-fh5su 3 месяца назад
So you didn't target swap properly on omnitron. Got it
@KsanUwU
@KsanUwU 3 месяца назад
@@up-fh5su How does the oldest boss running around for longer than it should = not target swapping properly?
@nogunk147
@nogunk147 3 месяца назад
Im having a blast. My only issue is i cant get in to a progging guild because seems like all 25 man guilds doing so arent recruiting or arent recruiting what i play. I know the tier lasts until october but it doesnt feel good wasting weeks pugging when i wanted to be there progging with a guild 😥. A few others know are kinda in this rut where they wanna raid 25 but cant find a slot anywhere and so were in this purgatory of waiting for the chaff to seperate so we can take their spots 😅
@R3ar3ntry
@R3ar3ntry 3 месяца назад
What is it you play?
@YTSProduction
@YTSProduction 3 месяца назад
it has been a while since i said hello WillE i have been playing cata classic and recently been going back to SoD classic its good to see your videos once again!
@fritzschnitzmueller3768
@fritzschnitzmueller3768 3 месяца назад
Im raiding 10 man and its rough man. One person doing a trivial mistake can easily be a wipe
@Keyy7787
@Keyy7787 3 месяца назад
Same thing in 25 on any fight that matters
@fritzschnitzmueller3768
@fritzschnitzmueller3768 3 месяца назад
@@Keyy7787 Yea I mean Im raiDing 25 in my alt, and ofc you have different difficulties there. But 10 man feels a different kind of depressing imho. Way less brezzes also to atleast try to save pulls. 10 man its over insantly
@darksendkilla
@darksendkilla 3 месяца назад
I've often said that T11 is the most under rated tier in WoW history, it didnt have the best of the best bosses but the consistency throughout, lots of various mechanics, and ability to pick your own path through if you get stuck made it an outstanding opening raid tier to an otherwise not fondly remembered expansion!
@AwesomeshadowSP
@AwesomeshadowSP 3 месяца назад
Good content, Good bosses, well designed difficulty and LOTS of loot. T11 is def the best tier we've had on classic and it is not even close
@fritzschnitzmueller3768
@fritzschnitzmueller3768 3 месяца назад
okay dude lmao
@AwesomeshadowSP
@AwesomeshadowSP 2 месяца назад
@@fritzschnitzmueller3768 ?
@SirDuctus
@SirDuctus 3 месяца назад
@WillE I really like the debuff overlay you have on the standard blizzard raid frames. Is that a weakaura or some other addon? It would help me out a lot
@demetris92
@demetris92 3 месяца назад
from my boomer guild prospective its not that hard to progress just hard to put together 2 full days of progressing.. one 3-4h raid a week didnt seem enough to learn all these without ptr experience
@sassyplays8140
@sassyplays8140 3 месяца назад
Here’s the thing if you want to blind prog this. Then it will be prog, does it really have to be cleared in 3-4h?
@IFNH8UALL
@IFNH8UALL 3 месяца назад
Worth a mention that a lot of these fights are easier on 25 than 10 just due to numbers, buffs/debuffs and battle resses.
@jagosvujovic2086
@jagosvujovic2086 3 месяца назад
generally 10 man is easier than 25 man, especially fights like al'akir which is a joke on 10 man compared to 25, although id imagine there are some outliers
@Thrasherous
@Thrasherous 3 месяца назад
Despite the amount of bres you have in the raid, you can only use 3 per fight
@Ztygs
@Ztygs 3 месяца назад
You can make a raid out of 25 druids, but that doesn't mean you have 25 Battle-resses. Just not how it works in Cata anymore lol
@Blubking1
@Blubking1 3 месяца назад
@@jagosvujovic2086 Cleared both 10m and 25m now - 25m is much easier. I agree with Alakir but it is a outliner.
@Keyy7787
@Keyy7787 3 месяца назад
​@Blubking1 just depends all the fights that require spacing and organization are all harder on 25m while the rest are easier on 25m. The issue is the ones that are harder on 10m are all the easy ones anyways. Couple that with the fact that a vast majority of the best player are doing 25m not 10 and almost double number of players doing 25m over 10m it shows that 10m is easier when it has more completions.
@itstheyok
@itstheyok 3 месяца назад
@WillEmmo What is the addon or weak aura you are using that flashed the icon when your skills are off cooldown?
@NotSoSwift
@NotSoSwift 3 месяца назад
Spell activation overlay
@proudm0re756
@proudm0re756 3 месяца назад
Doom_CooldownPulse on curseforge.
@melancailey
@melancailey 3 месяца назад
hypothetical question, can you do sinestra without doing heroic council? everything online just says h chogall but i dont wanna have my guild get fucked over :
@Czermet666
@Czermet666 3 месяца назад
A part of me wants to resub for cata, another part of me cba to dedicate that much time into it again... I was gutted to miss Ulduar & ICC, and I love Firelands & Dragon Soul, also I loved Ret & Holy Paladin and Feral bear Druid in Cata.
@danielstein7197
@danielstein7197 3 месяца назад
In Cata you have the catch-up system. You can earn all Valor and Conquest points as if you had played from week 1.
@J2911L
@J2911L 3 месяца назад
9/13 at the moment, been enjoying these raids the most out of any classic content. Healing feels really good, the fights aren't overtly long and raiding 10 man is just an actual blast
@aaronfisher7513
@aaronfisher7513 3 месяца назад
All I will say is this most people are good enough to do heroics but the problem is they never want to actually figure out how to do the boss
@kuhlorymd369
@kuhlorymd369 3 месяца назад
blizz said they were open to changes in cata but are sort of asleep at the wheel instead, delivering the bare minimum
@ForsakenGentleman
@ForsakenGentleman 3 месяца назад
This isn’t true in the slightest friend they’ve already added qol features and changes.
@kuhlorymd369
@kuhlorymd369 3 месяца назад
@@ForsakenGentleman yeah i was too dismissive of that. I’m just worried that’ll be all
@Keyy7787
@Keyy7787 3 месяца назад
Just gotta wait for sod to die a week after p4 release
@Ryan_hey
@Ryan_hey 3 месяца назад
@@Keyy7787 Probably a couple month's after P4's release. There's quite a lot that they're adding to SoD P4.
@XBezerkerX
@XBezerkerX 3 месяца назад
​@@Ryan_hey People said same about Season 3 and it was dead on arrival.
@ceven4760
@ceven4760 3 месяца назад
My guild is a group of only PvPers, IRL friends that have been playing together since catas initial launch back in the day. This week we are 11/12 for normals and everyone seems to be having a pretty good time
@Klaital1
@Klaital1 3 месяца назад
I feel like 25 man Ragnaros hc in Firelands is going to dethrone the lich king at that difficulty.
@ignaciomartin562
@ignaciomartin562 3 месяца назад
Best opening tier in WoW history! I'm having a blast
@General12th
@General12th 3 месяца назад
Hi Will! I'm enjoying t11 so far.
@TreesPlease42
@TreesPlease42 3 месяца назад
8:03 225 man
@kalsizzle
@kalsizzle 3 месяца назад
I still haven't killed any bosses on 10man heroic
@matthuckleberry5238
@matthuckleberry5238 3 месяца назад
Same sadly. We try most heroics and get close but then we just send normal and it feels super easy.
@Forvern
@Forvern 3 месяца назад
because you all arnt good enough
@kalsizzle
@kalsizzle 3 месяца назад
@@Forvern true but three raids is a lot and you want to get everything cleared within one raid night
@Keyy7787
@Keyy7787 3 месяца назад
​@@kalsizzle it's the same amount of bosses as ICC unless you do sinsetra then it would be like doing an ICC and RS in the same raid
@sidda7748
@sidda7748 2 месяца назад
Sinestra is the hardest boss by far in this tier. You said it yourself , he's bugged
@Davidhenry1210
@Davidhenry1210 3 месяца назад
If you're not sure why you are whipping in a heroic guild raid people haven't been talked to.
@Krult
@Krult 3 месяца назад
We are 9/12 lacking captain planet, sinestra and nef on hc. The bosses so far feel pretty fair and imlike the progress. The big problem is the loot and the time it consumes, i mean the amount is nice, but its overwhelming
@bachstrad1994
@bachstrad1994 3 месяца назад
9/12? There are 13 heroic bosses.
@Shervin86
@Shervin86 3 месяца назад
As a main healer since vanilla until now, I can say cata was the most fun for healers...
@increasegas2221
@increasegas2221 3 месяца назад
alot of bosses have a nice progression feel, real nice raid tier
@Luzarioth
@Luzarioth 3 месяца назад
I am shocked with the HC Inis... I remembered them at Cata launch... they where fun and you have to actually use stuff like CC or Pet pulls. But we are what... 2 weeks in ? And allready that degenerate playstyle of "just jump into it and pull the current group into the next one" has come.
@Crossfade1625
@Crossfade1625 3 месяца назад
Maybe its only on heroic but ive always spammed space on nef normal and havent DCd really enjoying this tier though, making progress on heroics
@bruzer_8465
@bruzer_8465 3 месяца назад
Hard to find a guild to just chill raid with. Normals are fine. Alliance Benediction
@R3ar3ntry
@R3ar3ntry 3 месяца назад
I know one on eu horde golemagg if you're interested
@Diskhate
@Diskhate 3 месяца назад
I've progressed all the way, with the same guild, since week 1 Molten Core up to the end of TOGC in Wrath, as a healing priest ...then i had to quit weekly raiding because of work :( i come back to the game and...my previous guild now only plays SOD after having killed Lich King, and despite my solid logs, experience etc...i cant find a Heroic raiding guild in cata that either: -isn't GDKP focused -isn't 10man focused -isn't "sign up" based instead of roster based, which i always heavily disliked i've done quite a bit of pugs in Normal, and while BWD's bosses are a joke on normal, some groups really struggle with Nef-Ony also...i don't know what has happened since i left, but Faerlina seems to be now split in half: some people who speak spanish, and some that speak english...so i've been in various pugs where for example the main tank just didn't understand a word of english, and i had to sort of translate to them as best as my italian ass could (italian/spanish are kinda sort of similar, so we can more or less comunicate even when we speak our own languages to each other) Other than this however... heroic dungeons have turned out a complete joke imo
@Keyy7787
@Keyy7787 3 месяца назад
It's south American economies going to shit so they come to different videos games to make money selling gold
@ablecdn1565
@ablecdn1565 3 месяца назад
Cata has around half the raiders WOTLK did at launch. It's clearly not that popular.
@Tiredcabbage
@Tiredcabbage 3 месяца назад
Well yeah Wrath was hyped to fuck and Cata people had been perpetuating a stigma over it for ages. It shits on Wrath in terms of raiding.
@R3ar3ntry
@R3ar3ntry 3 месяца назад
Opinions people opinions, both games are good, why compare them negatively?
@OnlyTidus
@OnlyTidus 3 месяца назад
Wrath has lore people care about
@hmvollbanane1259
@hmvollbanane1259 3 месяца назад
@Tiredcabbage nah, it's just simply not as popular. This was the expansion I stopped playing back in the day as I didn't enjoy the design changes, from the world design, smaller than normal mobs being introduced, over the story being more of "you are the chosen one" to green jesus ksing death wing. For most players that played out of nostalgia in my group wotlk was the end of "classic" wow. I guess for those that enjoy the raids it's great to play on, however to me this is the expansion I don't have any nostalgia for and where wow began to develope into a theme park rather than a coherent world open for you to explore
@Tiredcabbage
@Tiredcabbage 3 месяца назад
@@hmvollbanane1259 I never said it was as popular? In terms of going back and classic after Vanilla it's just raid logging. There's not much of a world after the original game. Wrath was great at the time but dull to go back to outside of nostalgia. Same for TBC.
@Keyy7787
@Keyy7787 3 месяца назад
Thing is mechanically almost every boss in p1 cata is harder than lk the reason lk was hard is because unless you were insanly good and had half a raid of hunters and walocks you wetent going to kill it until yoi reach a certain point of gear you dont have even close to that same issue with a single boss in this phase. Lk wasnt hard it was just improperly scaled its mechanics were braindead easy.
@dumplingshakes22
@dumplingshakes22 3 месяца назад
We’ve done everything heroic except Al akir nefarian and the twin dragons on in bastion. We’re not super hardcore but we’re hanging in there
@MoonTurky
@MoonTurky 3 месяца назад
Its not hardcore to down content that has been out for 12 years and disected completely lol
@dumplingshakes22
@dumplingshakes22 3 месяца назад
@@MoonTurky thanks for your input. Go back to retail and download 50 addons. Out my face
@MoonTurky
@MoonTurky 3 месяца назад
@@dumplingshakes22 Sorry for waking you up from your delusional feverdream thinking you are good at a game because you cleared 12 year old content with a million guides written on it. Lmao.
@Weavelol
@Weavelol 3 месяца назад
@@MoonTurky It can be hardcore depending how fast and efficiently you clear said content. If you think the top ~50 guilds who clear content week 1 aren't hardcore just because it's old content you're delusional
@MoonTurky
@MoonTurky 3 месяца назад
​@@Weavelol GG, copying my comment about being delusional. Real wow player, cant think with his own brain lmao.
@martinwieslander4066
@martinwieslander4066 3 месяца назад
10 man should dropp 3 items you gear so fast in 25 with 6 items and slow in 10 man with 2
@Blubking1
@Blubking1 3 месяца назад
Actually not that much more - 25m has 2.5x players and has 3x more loot. But yes, this was known. 25m drops a bit more loot to make up for the fact that you have to manage 24 apes. If you increase 10m to 3 items, 10m gets more loot proportionally. Not sure if thats the play. You could change it so bosses have a 50% drop chance to drop one more, maybe.
@Keyy7787
@Keyy7787 3 месяца назад
I mean they did literally say 25m is the premier size to do content and they will providing more loot because of this
@fuzzelump3
@fuzzelump3 3 месяца назад
Proportional or not. Wow phases also historically last like 6+ months. Gives adequate time for gearing before the next tier releases. In cata Classic, we have wayy faster raid caidence, so good luck getting more than a few pieces of gear per phase. Hell, it's week 5 and all my raid has seen is protector tokens for tier. Ill bet that a large number of players will go into fire lands wearing blue pieces. Doesn't make bad rng anymore fun. I say, who tf cares about what's more rewarding. 1 extra piece in 10 wont break the game. Nor would another 1 or 2 in 25. Would certainly help the enchanting mat market too.
@Blubking1
@Blubking1 3 месяца назад
@@fuzzelump3 Not disagreeing with the fact that they can buff overall loot because of faster cadence. That in fact should happen. However, the main argument was to just buff 10m.
@fuzzelump3
@fuzzelump3 3 месяца назад
@Blubking1 honestly. Like almost every raid tier in classic,. They will probably juice up loot drops part way through the phases. They did it in some form in almost every raid tier since t4 in tbc.
@R3ar3ntry
@R3ar3ntry 3 месяца назад
Great video, as always WillE, playing fire mage, every raid bight is exiting
@Epd3mik
@Epd3mik 3 месяца назад
Like i said. I think people will enjoy Cataclysm more this time around since Blizzard completely butchered Retail.
@murdsy4456
@murdsy4456 3 месяца назад
I'd love to see a racial shift or "choose your racial". Great for those wanting to play Alliance and want to raid at a higher level & the Horde side wouldn't be completely dead for PvP.
@SaarimaaSauli
@SaarimaaSauli 3 месяца назад
I think its very good, best raiding experience so far when compared to tbc and wotlk.
@travisolexa3074
@travisolexa3074 3 месяца назад
Cata has logged less than half the players at launch than Wotlk and TBC, I'm not surprised by the clear rates with less overall players. I feel it would be safe to double the kills we see here to get better context comparing them to previous raids. Or organize the data in a 'kill:players' ratio instead. Edit: People, IronforgeGG only counts unique names per week, doing 10 and 25 man only gets you counted once.
@LeAnhThyEli
@LeAnhThyEli 3 месяца назад
But we also need to look at the background, Cata classic launch at the sametime as the highly long waited MoP remix, then TWW BETA too :
@whatever85x
@whatever85x 3 месяца назад
@@LeAnhThyEli Be honest retail is not doing all that great so not that many going to beta
@Moemahd
@Moemahd 3 месяца назад
@@whatever85xretail servers are still super active? Df is one of the greatest expansions Blixzard has released.
@thegreattaiyou
@thegreattaiyou 3 месяца назад
But wait, reddit told me that Cata is better than Wrath and omg they can't believe how much more fun they're having does anyone else feel like Cata is the best expansion and is unnecessarily disliked???
@travisolexa3074
@travisolexa3074 3 месяца назад
​​@@LeAnhThyEliI don't think the people who said they wouldn't play Cata were the "loud minority" as reddit likes to claim. I think most of the Classic population just don't care about the expansions past wotlk.
@TwirlingFoxspirit
@TwirlingFoxspirit 3 месяца назад
Too bad you don't have catgirls in wow
@grizzly311tr
@grizzly311tr 3 месяца назад
do female feral druids mean nothing to you?
@JeyKalda
@JeyKalda 3 месяца назад
@@grizzly311tr theyre cats, not catgirls though
@TwirlingFoxspirit
@TwirlingFoxspirit 3 месяца назад
@@grizzly311tr It's a good start to be fair
@huguesyvanoe8908
@huguesyvanoe8908 3 месяца назад
IMO sinestra is way harder than nefarian in 10m heroic
@k9tirion927
@k9tirion927 3 месяца назад
"Good numbers in week 2" = Late ulduar and lower than togc numbers on expansion start. lol.
@aweha
@aweha 3 месяца назад
This is gonna kill PUGs and population really fast. 1-2 months the population will have shrunk another -50%. Normals are fine. But if you want do any heroic boss it's just same two gimmicks: 1. BIG RAID DAMAGE EXTRA HEALERS (managable) 2. GETTING ONESHOT (featuring brown/purple/green/yellow fire patch or one missed interrupt.) No amount of gear will change this.
@vulture27fm
@vulture27fm 3 месяца назад
Conclave is an easy F tier boss. There is nothing positive to say about it.
@jessekoch3480
@jessekoch3480 3 месяца назад
Reliving the bugs and random dcs all over again. What a waste of time this game is.
@BlueFenixMD
@BlueFenixMD 3 месяца назад
Magmaw still bugged, turning head the wrong way when chained, every once in a while.
@Keyy7787
@Keyy7787 3 месяца назад
Better than on release when he was literally unkillable until they fixed him
@xe2014
@xe2014 3 месяца назад
BRO.... GET A CAST BAR ADDON.... ITS IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR FRAMES
@No-Me3
@No-Me3 3 месяца назад
[I Can't Hear You Over The Sound of How Awesome I Am]
@AlCap0le
@AlCap0le 3 месяца назад
thats the only addon so far which is so freaking boring to play
@Kewlandos
@Kewlandos 3 месяца назад
As always, I'm throwing a like before even watching the video.
@Manifibell
@Manifibell 3 месяца назад
I do not like the theme of Cata so I am just playing openworld stuff and getting achievements and stuff before MoP. Which I belive is coming. No surprise. Its cool that it is harder but I also feel sad that my favorite expansions TBC and Wrath are such pushovers compared :p I am hoping I like MoP. I missed it the first time but regret it since the expansion looks really good.
@FirstLast-gk6lg
@FirstLast-gk6lg 3 месяца назад
Legends
@RaytheAwsome
@RaytheAwsome 3 месяца назад
👍
@SakamuG
@SakamuG 3 месяца назад
Same content same problems.
@ChippiesBR
@ChippiesBR 3 месяца назад
Normals are so faceroll boring theyre not satisfying at all. Hard modes there is just so much shit going on and spam everywhere, it also feels unenjoyable. My opinion anyway.
@rogersmothers7435
@rogersmothers7435 3 месяца назад
I was a holy priest when this was retail. I want you all to know that I was the last alive and solo'd the last hits on bosses multiple times for kills
@SmIlEUrDeADd6
@SmIlEUrDeADd6 3 месяца назад
🤨
@robertbonds6680
@robertbonds6680 3 месяца назад
@@SmIlEUrDeADd6problem?
@ax-zw2vv
@ax-zw2vv 3 месяца назад
Finally we can start filtering out the shitters that don’t belong in raids
@stefangeibla3824
@stefangeibla3824 3 месяца назад
This Cata was an absolute miss for my buddies and I… leveling and heroic dungeons are WAY too easy. We aren’t really dedicated or interested enough to get into heroic raiding. So it’s either too easy and boring or too hard and gatekept like crazy. No middle ground… RIP
@HerpSmerp
@HerpSmerp 3 месяца назад
I'm confused what did you expect - heroics were always going to be easy after the first 2 weeks or so - so if you want a challenge, raiding has always been the answer? Did you think heroics would be m+ or what
@stefangeibla3824
@stefangeibla3824 3 месяца назад
I expected something like TBC heroics pre-nerf… i never played Cata back then, but most people said that heroic dungeons would be difficult. Just would love some challenge without having to engage with the toxic sweaty neckbeards that are asking for your whole curriculum and more to join a simple raid. Yes, obviously guilds would fix that… but my job doesn’t allow me to play on a regular schedule
@giulianomendez9367
@giulianomendez9367 3 месяца назад
@@stefangeibla3824 seems like a skill issue to me
@MaxMusterman_
@MaxMusterman_ 3 месяца назад
Wille still making videos in spare time crying on Reddit? Damn don’t know that
@alexanderm8892
@alexanderm8892 3 месяца назад
WillE's SHOCKING clickbait title; results turn out to not be shocking at all!
@ajo_of
@ajo_of 3 месяца назад
Remember how OP alliance was in classic? And nothing has been done to equalize it. Let's give Horde their time now for once ;)
@fritzschnitzmueller3768
@fritzschnitzmueller3768 3 месяца назад
How was alliance op in classic? Horde racials are better even in classic iirc
@Mammel248
@Mammel248 3 месяца назад
@@fritzschnitzmueller3768 paladin blessings are raid-wide, horde totems are group-wide in vanilla alliance really is that much better
@fritzschnitzmueller3768
@fritzschnitzmueller3768 3 месяца назад
@@Mammel248 ah u are right thx for pointing it out. But isnt horde better for meele due to windfury? Or am I wrong there too
@Mammel248
@Mammel248 3 месяца назад
@@fritzschnitzmueller3768 sadly windfury isn't nearly as good as what alliance melee get: salvation + kings + might
@ezeess7239
@ezeess7239 3 месяца назад
sorry dude but your UI is awful. bars and weak auras covering your character, overlapping timers . YIKES.
@GetDoused
@GetDoused 3 месяца назад
MAYBE no one WANTS to be alliance LOL.
@tomsawyer7230
@tomsawyer7230 3 месяца назад
no boss took us more than 10 pulls without ptr even, while 0% LK took us like 200 with 100 ptr pulls included. so its kinda a landslide and this content is kinda lame
@niklashamilton7954
@niklashamilton7954 3 месяца назад
Comparing the first tier in an expansion to the last in another 😅
@niklashamilton7954
@niklashamilton7954 3 месяца назад
Oh, and doing PTR for 15 year old content. Please.
@tomsawyer7230
@tomsawyer7230 3 месяца назад
@@niklashamilton7954 what does the number of tier in the exp have to do with that, also with a togc run taking 30 minutes and then being done for the week it made totally sense to run a bit of ptr with the limited attempts
@Permuh
@Permuh 3 месяца назад
No-one(?) claimed t11 was harder than ICC tho 😂
@virallock
@virallock 3 месяца назад
Tom you pulled all heroic only 10 times? What guild? Would love to validate those claims No shade, some of the best guilds had some hairy moments sooo just sayin
@demonwares
@demonwares 3 месяца назад
My expectation was that this was a boring expansion, and for me... it was. Classic is dead.
@rundown132
@rundown132 3 месяца назад
People still play this?
@rookie28604
@rookie28604 3 месяца назад
No other version is even worth playing atm lol
@TOXINZ2
@TOXINZ2 3 месяца назад
How much anyone wanna bet this is the guy that gloats to other people that he doesn’t play these games cause he’s “grown up” and “has a life” and stuff like this is childish behavior… and will proceed to tell us to touch grass and maybe we will be successful too? Bonus points if he has 2 jobs 3 wives and 10 kids.
@tom55123
@tom55123 3 месяца назад
Great comment bro, really brought a lot to the conversation
@shaggy7599
@shaggy7599 3 месяца назад
I’ve stopped after the boycott for harassment charges
@DeathByRhapsody
@DeathByRhapsody 3 месяца назад
11 hours a day. Wow will never die!
@machomadness4522
@machomadness4522 3 месяца назад
who cares about cata like tbc. tbc gone. wrath gone. its all about retail or classic revamp. what else is in the future?
@Blubking1
@Blubking1 3 месяца назад
Era?
@erraldstyler
@erraldstyler 3 месяца назад
dude alliance are just nabs my server was balanced until *all* alliance transed aways cause they couldnt take the open pvp
@Jenartik
@Jenartik 3 месяца назад
another dogsht video
@battleforshogun5452
@battleforshogun5452 2 месяца назад
Ur data says ascedent council is the hardest ur pretty slow
@scrummpybear
@scrummpybear 3 месяца назад
I had to stop watching cause calling any cata boss hard is a joke. They are all ez as hell, if your healers cant cut it they must be clickers or brain dead.
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