Doomed: Buffy the Vampire Slayer 4x11 Reaction

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Doomed: Buffy the Vampire Slayer 4x11 Reaction
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@sherrysink3177 Год назад

Spike wanting to go out and kick some ass at the end of the episode cracks me up. "For justice and puppies, and Christmas. Let's fight that evil! ... Oh come on!" 😄😆🤣

@ace360 Год назад

15:10 Yes!!!!! That moment when he finds out "I can hunt a Demon" That's right im back and Im a Bloody Animal!!!🔥👊 Yup You know who Im here for 😂 🤘

@frugalseverin2282 Год назад

Think back to ep. 4 ' Fear Itself' when Buffy said maybe it's better not to let anyone in, that's key to her mentality. With Angel she turned him into Angelis and Parker just used her.

@babadoudidadouda Год назад

Yes, and her dad left.

@youcantleavethisempty Год назад

If the stakes are getting higher, does that mean the vampires are getting taller?

@Richard_Ashton Год назад

Also, if the steaks are high, where are the sausages?

@UTU49 Год назад

If the stakes are higher, a lot of them are going to miss the heart... unless the vampire is standing on a ladder.

@spikesecho724 Год назад

Spike.....gorgeous even in a ridiculous hawaiin shirt

@DaDunge Год назад

12:45 Turns out Spike can hurt people just not physically.

@rfresa Год назад

It's so hilarious to me to hear Spike doing a fake American accent, since the actor is actually American. 😅

@1matrix9 Год назад

Another masterclass from Jayne & Sharon. Just brilliant ladies...thank you again.

@DakaraJayne Год назад

Thank you for watching matrix

@jzchillin Год назад

Great reactions today, D! Always love this ep as we get the reveal that Spike can hurt a demon, and for now finds a purpose to "enjoy" himself.... (besides getting into Xander and Willow's heads about being needed), and the big reveal to Buffy of the Commandos and their mission..... and the classic, "No, just a friend of Xander's here" will always be classic..... great stuff and you get 2 CTU's from me today.... keep em coming!

@Kayjee17 Год назад

Passion of the Nerd pointed out an interesting subtext to watch during the rest of season 4 - it looks like Forest has an unspoken thing for Riley, and after they become a couple Forest starts snarking off like a jealous ex...

@feudist Год назад

Without hesitation or hope of getting back, Buffy leaps headlong into the mouth of Hell.

@Logan_Baron Год назад

I always love James Marsters, and American, playing a character with an English accent, that's pretending to have an American accent.

@Buffy8Fan Год назад

The age 25 thing isn't something specific age-wise. It's just a random low age. And since Buffy is now 18, and has died once, this is something she worries about.

@mikelows1988 Год назад

Literally the first episode of Buffy in the millennium

@terpcj Год назад

My issue with Riley here was that Buffy said no. She unambiguously and emphatically said no...more than once. Even back then, no means no. You back off. My rah-rah for Riley took a big dip with that. He needs to look inside, embrace his inner Zeppo, and be a friend first. A friend with intent, sure, but the woman said no.

@Buffy8Fan Год назад

EDITED BECAUSE I ADDED SPOILERS I tried to say this in my own comment once, and a threaded comment nearly took my head off. Although for me him saying she's "stupid" and "self-involved" doesn't help other people's defense of he's just trying to convince her. If he wants to convince her, that was far from a great way of doing so. She had valid reasons to not get involved and he acted like it didn't matter before later being upset once _Into the Woods_ comes along. In a year and a half he doesn't have great defenses after she lays out in this episode the relationship would be hard because of slaying and previous relationships. At that point he's realizing Buffy's points that she cannot love him and he's giving ultimatums when the relationship already imploded.

@LOSFOUFOUP Год назад

I mean if you tell someone to stop drugs and they say no more than once, that's not a reason to stop trying to convince them to stop... She clearly likes him and wants to be with him, but she's so afraid it'll end up hurting she doesn't want to take any risk. Except that if you think that way you never live anything to begin with. Calling her out on her bullshit was the right call here. Also "no means no" is a stupid social media argument. Reality is way more complex than that. If you ask a girl if her boyfriend is beating her up and she says no despite two black eyes and a broken rib, you don't just back off because she says no. You try to convince her to let you help her do something to stop it, despite her fear. Feelings and intentions matter more than words. No and yes both mean "read the room". Because sometimes people say yes or no because they're afraid, and while they might mean it that doesn't mean it's better for them. Sometimes people need a benevolent push to make the right decision for them despite being afraid of doing so. Riley read the room : he's pretty sure Buffy wants to be with him. She's just cockblocking them both because she's afraid it'll end up badly. Which, like I said, you never live anything good in your life if you think like this to begin with. Anywho, I don't see that debate having any winner. In the context of the show and of the scene, I think Riley was right to call Buffy out on her bullshit. But people's tendancies to generalize will of course generate pointless arguments like this. Thanks for the thought anyway. Ps : being a zeppo only works out for Xander.

@paulinerobertson6836 Год назад

@@LOSFOUFOUP the drug analogy...at some point you have to because as the saying goes you can only help those who want to help themselves. yes you can try and convince people but it's not your life and it's also not up to you, sometimes continuing to push will drive people away. Whether Buffy likes him or not is irrelevant, at that point she made her decision. He should have walked away and let her figure it out. There is a fine line between helping someone and interfering. Buffy's whole life is a risk and she does cut herself off, but saying yes to everything is just as big of a risk as saying no to everything.

@LOSFOUFOUP Год назад

@@paulinerobertson6836 I mean sure there's a limit to everything, but for that scene particularly Riley haven't pushed the boundaries. He just tried to make her understand that the reason she's pushing him away is stupid, and that by doing that she's just hurting them both. And when he failed to do that he DID walk away and let her figure it out. He didn't tell her what she should do, he just told her the truth : her reasons are stupid. He wasn't forceful nor creepy about it, he was just honest about what he wants. Some people seems to think he should just go "k, peace out then." and be done with Buffy without trying to understand or convince her that this is a mistake. I understand why Buffy says no, but her reasonning IS stupid. Riley is fighting demons and taking risks anyway, and every relationship can potentially end up badly. So Riley was right to call her out, that's it. Some people just won't try anything or give up way too quick, and then they'd think they're good persons just because they didn't take any risks and therefore had no impact on anyone and anything. Meanwhile, bad people act because they don't care about the risks of hurting others. Eh, whatever. I'm making the mistake of trying to philosophize on YT again. Fuck that, I made my piece and I'm not Riley. Peace out.

@volourn9764 Месяц назад

He did nothing wrong. He never forced her.

@TenebrousFilms 6 месяцев назад

His secret wasn't hers to tell.

@ernesthakey3396 Год назад

"Slayers don't live past 25" - that's not a hard line, it's just that as far as the Watchers Council have records of, no Slayers has survived to turn 26. Slayers don't have an off-switch - they just have a really dangerous existence - and that is in part the Watchers Council's own doing. Let's see: A) They insist on Slayers working alone and keeping the secret. No teams, no backup other than their assigned Watcher. Given that SOME humans clearly know about vampires, would it really be so terrible to let a Slayer lead a team of hunters? B) They administer a cruel "face a nasty vampire without your powers" test on the Slayer's 18th birthday. A Slayer reaching their full prime and independence, possibly becoming harder to control - it's almost like they murder the Slayer undeepr the guise of a test so the mojo will activate a new Slayer for them to mold. One good reason no Slayer has made it to 26 is that most die on their 18th birthday... C) Buffy is a Slayer - but due to weirdness, she is no longer the only one nor the most recent one, though Faith being comatose does leave her doing the job... Buffy has a team, so she's aleady got a big advantage over earlier Slayers. Buffy DID die even before the stupid test - she died at 16, so technically she didn't make it to her 25th birthday without dying - luckily, she died from drowning and was resuscitated with CPR. And later she survived the test, partly because Giles broke the rules too. A new Slayer was activated and everything! Kendra was activated, and then after Kendra died, Faith was activated - seems like the mojo is working normally on the line of Slayers after Buffy died. Buffy seems to be an anomaly - she died, but it got better, and she kept her Slayer powers depite someone else getting the powers too. So - just because no Slayer has lived past 25 previously doesn't mean Buffy won't - even if it were a rule, it no longer applies to her, she's broken all the rules...

@Jessica_Roth Год назад

The specific line is "the Slayer rarely survives past her middle 20s", as Giles said to Jenny in a cut scene from "Surprise". But "rarely" doesn't mean "never". Buffy's right to be concerned, but shouldn't be completely fatalistic.

@killianlpc Год назад

Doomed was a great fun episode with the comedy between Spike and Xander hilarious. It's almost like the 'Odd Couple' the two of them in the basement is a sitcom I would pay to watch. The last part when Spike gets recognised by Riley and tries to put on an American accent was hilarious.

@plothole181 Год назад

So James Marsters is ACTUALLY American, but there were stories around that time about how people would hear him using his regular accent instead of his Spike accent and people would wonder why he was doing such a terrible American accent instead of his natural British accent. Just to be clear his American accent in this episode is NOT his American accent.

@killianlpc Год назад

@@plothole181 Yes I know that.

@raymondamador1487 Год назад

I think this was the best episode of season 4. Spike found his calling as a Slayer. BTW, Willow is the hottest woman on this show. The perfect mix of brains and emotions. The only other person to have those qualities in such abundance is... DakaraJayne ✌️

@Jessica_Roth Год назад

I don't think I can call it the "best". Buffy lies to her friends for no reason, the dubbing of that Buffy/Giles scene is awful, the physics in the climax are ridiculous, and I'm not fond of Marti Noxon dropping in cheap sex jokes ("You see me with my clothes off"/"Every inch of me is tingling") in otherwise strong Buffy/Riley scenes. All that costs it a few points, IMO. But it's probably my favorite of the season. That Buffy/Willow scene at the party is everything I adore: vulnerable Willow, caring and comforting Buffy, and two excellent comedy riffs. David Fury was at the top of his game there. (And so is SMG. That little sigh she gives as Buffy stands up…remember, it hasn't even been a DAY since "Hush". She's just emotionally worn out at this point.) I actually think it would be better to stake Spike (how many people has he killed? who knows how long the chip will last? And it's doubtful he'll reform), but they do set up a decent excuse for keeping him around and the comedy with him here really works. Props to Jane Espenson for those scenes. Not bad for an episode thrown together by three writers over a weekend because "Hush" had them behind the schedule. JMO.

@Junejane4 Год назад

Again, Spike was the star of this episode 😀

@sirmoonslosthismind Год назад

spike calls willow and xander "tenth grade losers", but they were tenth graders in season one. spike didn't meet them until season two, when they were eleventh graders.

@Jessica_Roth Год назад

But since he's claiming they don't help Buffy, it makes sense for him to reference the year when they met Buffy. His own experience isn't really relevant, IMO.

@jameshenner5831 Год назад

maybe more vampires should try Hawaiian patterns.

@trufamilybromontqc Год назад

Buffy deserves a good guy 🙂

@Henrik_Holst Год назад

I think that you are overthinking the 25 thing, I mean most Slayers don't even make it to 18 and Buffy herself already died when she was just 16

@whatthe8898 Год назад

Yay!

@erickwebster1973 9 месяцев назад

Despite trying to be a jackass I think Spike made some pretty valid points I used to also think that Buffy was too much of a softie to cut them loose they may think their lives are better for it but I think in some ways it's worse I mean they've all lost too much seen too much death, loss, Carnage Florida City not for Buffy they all would have been dead 10 times over and if she had never come to Sunnydale The Master would have eventually gotten free took over the world and killed everybody

@GeneBateman1970 Год назад

Spike always tells the truth, remember that

@Logan_Baron Год назад

Not ALWAYS. He does lie at times. However he can do the most damage telling the truth. Though he does almost always SEE the truth.

@nocatlover Год назад

I believe Parker is your first priority on your hatelist 😅😅😅

@volourn9764 Месяц назад

People ragging on Riley pushing against Buffy's "No." are forgetting Buffy was also persistent with Angel when he said,"No." It seems that people are fine with women are pushy but not men... weird. Even Faith largely gets a pass.

@Belnick6666 Год назад

Percy just said what the GF wanted to hear, so it is the GF that is awful as she got turned on by it lol he would not have said it if willow was in front of him, but saying stuff you do not mean(he might meant it a little) when you know they are not listening to appease someone else is standard