Notice how Dorothy Day says, "People always look to the state," and she goes on to say people can and should do more to assist their fellow man in terms of helping the needy, for funding and even keeping our schools open. Her solution is people must evolve more spiritually and thus, recognized our spiritual capacities. No wonder she's literally a Saint
Shane Whitefeather According to Biblical usage, a 'saint' is someone who is sanctified by faith, in other words a believer. No separation of degree is implied between 'superior' and 'inferior' saints. Distinctions as to heavenly rewards are the Lord's business, not the business of church officials. What is spiritual 'evolution'? I have heard of conversion and sanctification, but not 'evolution' in that sense. It is true that the State can never do the work of the Church. The State is hardly a means of expression of Divine love! Yet when charitable works in the hands of Church and civil society are insufficient, is it wrong for the State to step in? Many Christian legislators have thought that it OUGHT to step in.
I just had this conversation with a republican friend of mine saying that the State should do more and then I mentioned this comment here. That was funny. Happy Feast Day Dorothy Day.
No limit to what God asks us to do for the love of our brother ( humanity) God will ask us to take land. But we also have to take defeat. This is when we reach into God's eternal account of grace and keep going.
On the brink of a possible ww3, Dorothy Day, pray for us! May we each have a revolution of the heart and live the beatitudes in our families and neighborhoods, and beg heaven with importunity to cease the warmongering of the powerful. Lord have mercy on us! Jesus, we trust you!
I am a conservative but I have read everything written by or about Dorothy Day. I have admired her since the 1980s. Even though I disagree with her on many issues I admire the way she lived s life totally consistent with her beliefs. I can't do what she did but i admire her immensely. She is truly a saint and should be canonized.
If you can't do what she did, then you really ought to question your whole way of living, and what you have been ''buying into, i would suggest. in effect you are saying (and by which means suggesting God is a liar) that Christ has not the power to transform your life? is being ''conservative'' so important to you that God's work is demoted to nothing? (honestly not meant in disrecspect Bill)
Dorothy Day is a person who became Catholic. Acted what our Lord Jesus SYS to do. The Beatitudes. Feed the hungry...I barely learned about Dorothy Day and I just went onto Google and find books written by her and by others about her work. I bought a few books and the movie Dorothy Day. Her life is amazingly lived. Today we need her words of wisdom the most because the culture of death are always around the corner and it hides behind close doors in America, and it is openly active in America as it is around the world. I thank you bucklaw for posting this video. I am 57 years old and I am always learning from those who truly love life and do something about it. We are bombarded with death by Planned Parenthood, Wars, Crime in all American States, and Terrorism prevails without any real attempt to stop it peacefully. Our politicians had gone sour and money is the ultimate goal of their agendas. Republicans lost their sense of conservatism and cannot get along within their own groups, Democrats had gone wild in their demands for unconceivable rights, choices, and no morals are left for the human dignity. America is getting sick from its own created disease.
i really didn't feel connected to my catholic upbringing for most of my life, because i felt like it conflicted with my leftist ideology. but getting to study religion with liberation theologians and marxist nuns really changed my perspective ! dorothy day is one of my personal favorites, and i'm so glad i had the chance to study her. i'm getting better at understanding that i can be a leftist and a catholic
Solidarity! I wish there were more of us, especially in the U.S. The left could use more spiritual grounding, and the Catholic community could use more focus on social justice.
Even thought im on right part of spectrum, im really glad that you find equilibrium between your political leaning and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, if all leftist would be so open minded it would be almost no conflict among us.
NO! You're misreading Dorothy Day. She's anti-war and she talks about her love for the poor, but her anti-government ideology makes her more of a Reaganite than a Leftist. She may have seen herself as being on the Left, given her background in labor and socialist circles, but her intellectual laziness caused her to overlook how the philosophy she and Peter Maurin developed actually placed them more squarely on the Right. This is why libertarians celebrate her: They point to her belief that the private sector should look out for the poor---as her volunteer-staffed soup houses did, as inadequately as could be expected---and her rejection of demands for taxpayer-paid social services. She hated war, but she was no practitioner of liberation theology (a Marxist-influenced trend among Catholics).
+Michael Boylan She has a lot to say, although her alignment with the corrupt Catholic church takes away some of the force of it. However we should not forget that the whole counsel of God includes more than just the Sermon on the Mount. Essential, in our time especially, is the Great Commission of Matthew 28:19-20. How are people to obey Christ, Who have never heard of Him, or who have no personal relationship with Him because they worship 'other gods' (in whatever sense)? I find her attitude toward the State a little pessimistic, just as she seems a bit too optimistic about the long-term prospects for a successful peace movement. States, run as they are by sinful human beings, are capable of great evil, but absence of any State may be worse. Even tyrannical States are weak States, in that rule of law is superseded by arbitrary rule. We should bear in mind Romans 13:1, 'Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.' If the proper role of the State is as 'minister of God to you for good' (see v.4), then perhaps we ought not to despise it. The achievements of the modern welfare State are tremendous despite its obvious imperfections, and it is ravenous super-capitalists who benefit when it is undermined. As for the future, we can expect conflict to come to a head in intolerable fashion, just prior to the return of Christ. See Mark 13:20.
I had to write a paper on about a major figure in the Catholic Church and, at the time, I had barely heard anything about Dorothy Day. Yet the little I did know intrigued me, so I borrowed her autobiography and did the paper on her. She has such an incredibly unique character and has experienced how truly far down sin can take a person. Yet, by the grace of God, she found her place in God's heart once more and became committed to living out her incredible character for the good of humanity. An incredibly interesting and admirable woman, I don't think there will ever be someone quite like her ever again. If you haven't read her autobiography "The Long Loneliness" yet, I highly recommend it!
WY will any body thumb down brave women like Dorothy day who's help to feed and shelter the poor for me she's a saint right now she and heaven with God
Dorothy Day remains in the American Catholic consciousness when she should have been forgotten (as so many figures much more significant than her in the history of American Catholicism have been), because the establishment loves her; the term "Catholic Worker," sounds socialist-brand. Obviously, from this interview, you can hear her contempt for the US welfare system, and it is not difficult to find that she was more libertarian than anything else. Were this fact better known, no one would care about her, because she would not help the political ambitions of the USCCB or the Catholic university system. www.crisismagazine.com/2013/the-dorothy-day-few-of-us-know
It would be great if the Catholic Worker Movement could become accessible in all areas. Is there a group in British Columbia? Does the Catholic Worker help to build communications between Pope Francis and the community?
bucklaw Thanks very much bucklaw. I was talking a few years ago with the Archdiocese of Nelson about whether the Social Justice Commission could be revived in this region. I live in Kelowna and I am the contact for the Pyramid 2030 Okanagan project. The goal of this is to communicate with the rest of the network to identify what is possible as far as reaching a sustainable and benign relatioship between humans and the planet by the year 2030. "pyramid2030okanagan@gmail.com"
They have a mailing list. I volunteered at the Mustard seed in Saginaw Michigan. Each house sends out a mailing list usually every two months. Greetings from 2019.
Thank you for that info regarding this video taking place in 1971! My dear friend Father Albert J. DeGiacomo just finished a stage play about Dorothy Day called "Forster, Dearest: Along the Way to Heaven." We're having a reading tonight and I really wanted to see Dorothy Day and hear her speak
How much has happened in the world since this interview! How innocent and naive Ms. Day seems in her optimism, as we look back over some 50 years of history. Though we may have had no international conflict on the scale of ww1 or ww2 YET, nevertheless the pot is always simmering. Scripture predicts far worse yet to come. Gandhi as an advocate of peace? He was not even a Christian!! And even he could not stop hindus and muslims from slaughtering one another during the decolonization and partitioning of India post-ww2. Despite her connection to the corrupt Roman Catholic hierarchy, evidently Ms. Day made a serious effort to obey the commandments of Christ as she understood them. And a case certainly MAY be made for total pacifism on the basis of Gospel teachings. However Roman centurions in active service were counted among those who were sensitive to Christ's teaching. Let us not forget that His teaching concerned not only what we should do for Him, but more importantly still, WHO HE IS and WHAT HE HAS COME TO DO FOR US. He IS our peace. (Ephesians 2:8) 'For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God.......'
@@nottoday.9503 Looks like she was a socialist to her dying day. Interesting that the Commonweal, a prominent Communist paper in the Catholic Church, was behind the thrust for her canonization. Cardinal Dolan, a character of less than stellar reputation, was the main advocate for her sainthood. Lots of red flags here. Anything is possible with God, but many of Mrs. Day's seeds bore bitter fruit in the wake of her passing.
