It was either this or did you notice 🤔 Dot had since said P won the war....BUT I feel like it was more of a beef thing. Outside lyrics P Money is half a bad man still. Stuck it on a few legends face to face. As Crazy Titch said. Hold Tight P Money... its why Ghetts and P got sorted quick after a few tracks. Scorcher said on a podcast that the day he was released from jail P was waiting for at the gate for a scrap but scorcher said behave fam it's all music. P made his point and moved on. Dot Rotten is probably the most protested MC, the only reason Dot don't obliterate everyone other than Doogz is cuz of political reasons.
@@bigshagger8277 I think real talk by dot was so cold, I know p money made the first one but the flows an stuff that dot done You ain't diabolical nah you're stuck in a cycle You lie a lot, you'd rather stuff substance inside you The biological father, I fuck with the title I fire off like a farmer clutching a rifle I believe this was a tie, still to this day ppl are arguing on who won they both won an it’s timeless music in every aspect.
@@DrSeussTruth dot rotten is a weapon on mic init, but the boys been bullied too many times on camera to chat like he’s about it still, worse than them chunkz type man who chat bad for the payday. If ya lyrics ain’t true your wet, don’t care about ability if your story tellin. Bring back g Checks
this clash was legendary I think if you live bars and flows got to give it to Dot but if we are talking brutality and disses and credibility and being consistent then P, personally I thought P won but Steak Bake was the hardest dub though, I just feel with Dot he was inconsistent like his follow up Spirit Bomb was just weak and he had lost the hype whilst P was always consistent with his tracks and also disses
jack h lool if anything dot been saying the facts p money drew for a forged police document and lied bare times the blacks thing is too mad to be fabricated imo plus look at the donny
@@slumped9677 Didn't literally everyone Dot referenced in every single dub come out personally and say that he's lying a couple of days after this track or am i mistaken?
In a way I feel this was where the beef ended. It was an unbelievably savage back and forth and this was the last really good one before it kind of got a bit weird. I think it was pretty much a draw. Was a fun feud to watch but by the end it was like a bitchy he said she said thing that felt a bit petty. Showing police statements and telling people to check court documents and trying to prove points in a song and stuff. Doesn't really work. There's something very un-musical about 2 people arguing about what actually happened and what the CCTV shows and who was there and who did what.
Oloff Music I agree totally, I only first found grime in 2013 so I knew P money well but not Dot. Steak Bake for me will eventually feel to me like the nostalgic old beefs do to you. This was defo my fave one and got me in the tunnel of wanting to find more older sounding grime.
That's because this is PERSONAL and not musical. This isn't lyrical like P Vs Big H. This is on sight and no backward steps. Dot violated so many people so many times and then he started taking shots at P and ogz for no reason. All their issues was years ago and they'd left it alone. What people don't understand is that he started this and he made it personal. The songs are a byproduct the real element. Decades. He did steal his friends equipment. He did lie. He did use master writer. He did lie about little Dee Blacks And P getting g checked. He did lie about so many things. And that matters because this isn't about you think you're better than me etc. This is about a guy snaking his ex team who backed him when he got himself in shit. Loyalty.
@@thoughtful3393 Yeah I know what you mean, it's a different kind of thing and there did seem to be genuine anger between them. But I think generally it's much better when listeners can generally just kind of decide who won based on who's songs were better. The facts definitely matter in that regard but above all else it's two musical artists beefing. Chip is a grreat example of this, if someone ever tries to make the beef about something it's not he just brings it right back to the fact that he's a better MC and they can't handle it, and he proves it on the track too, he doesn't just say it. He's broken multiple MCs egos and hurt their credibility just by refusing to stoop to their level and keeping it about music.
Magna Productions if you listen to both without picking a side and thinking one person was telling the truth and the other lies then you can’t deny this is the better dub
Both man brought light to the grime scene! Fuck Stormzy and other bullshit mans been doing. Dot and P both went hard and massive respect to both! GRIME FOR LIFE!
Can’t lie, I know he uses that master writer bullshit but if this flow he had came naturally from his thoughts, the scene would flip on itself trust me.
The difference in view count between Dot and Ps videos just show how fucking fake 90% of grime fans are. Most people listening to P never even listened to Dots tracks.
he had to delete it though because p got all the people dot mentioned in this in the background of his reply ...also what's achievable chi and a jinels
