Double Down 2022 Top 64 - MkLeo (Byleth) Vs. BassMage (Jigglypuff) SSBU Smash Ultimate Tournament 

Omfg derker es fan de bassmage? Te quiero aún más

exactly. Jiggs aint the powerhouse she was in melee in ultimate, but I love seeing someone pilot her regardless and to take a game off of the best, to boot.

@@Nyworin Ya somos dos amigo

@@mr.emolgario637 ojoooo

Puff isn't a bad character in ultimate why do people still think she is :(

Ok.

EE wasn't the origin of this mistake, and definitely came from Charles, somewhere down the line. I'm sure we can find the vod of Charles informing EE for the first time that "Leo was in losers side." It was absolutely a misunderstanding of Lea's name as Leo.

NaetorU was seeded that low? Damn

Yeah makes it way more difficult then normal for Puff to get his early off stage kills. Bonus that Byleth can actually punish Puff offstage with his UP B like he did in that one stick when BassMage overcommitted

Yeah byleth was 1000% the best pick here. One of the best recoveries in the game, one of the hardest rest punishes in the game, and typical big and safe swordie moves make it tricky for puff to do puff things (though I don't think the matchup is free)

@@citrus5797 agreed, I would even consider this MU on Byleths favour. A decent Byleth spacing can make it impossible for puff. Plus one Nair to dsmash can break puffs shield if held just a bit too long.

@@juanlozano9207 I disagree. A lot of people have something that I like to call "elite smash bias", where sword characters overestimate their ability to beat Jigglypuff because they fight bad puffs online and are able to swat away their predictable approaches every single time. Don't get me wrong, Jigglypuff generally does worse against swordies than any other archetype, but she doesn't lose to every single one. I think puff goes even with Byleth simply because of how goddamn slow Byleth is, especially in the air. His recovery, while great, is still a tether recovery and can be gimped. Also, the shieldbreak setup you mentioned is relatively niche and easy to play around, and a smart puff can be surprisingly hard for Byleth to hit.

@@citrus5797 complete fair points. Yes I totally see where you’re coming from and do agree with you. Im my statement I did not mean to add people who do compete in the game, you’re absolutely correct with that biased I took. It’s just from my personal experience with low level puffs and friends I play with (I’m the biggest fan of smash in my friend group lmao). God damn but honestly it’s so nice to have a conversation here in RU-vid, people are so much more civilized than any other SM platform

Thanks Coach

You know Bassmage is the best Puff if for no other reason than him not getting 3-0d here

Yeah his slingshots were so good. He had so many punishes thanks to that

Bass also had some nice slingshots into pound this set. Really cool to see it in action on both sides

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bassmage says its a winning matchup for puff btw. and i cant really argue, byleth is so slow and puff can get in so easily with how slow their attacks are, and they are very edgegaurdable. byleth is combo food for puff, and none of byleths options work out of sheild against puffs downair driftback.

Wdym the matchup is impossible to win, have you ever tried to play byleth into puff lol

@@VallochGaming tbh talking from experience it’s even, the disjoints are still too strong

Impossible my ass😂😂😂😂

So annoying when someone as clueless as you act like you know the game.

Spoilers!

Tea will always be a menace, he's a beast.

Tea has never not went crazy lol. Even if he loses, those games were earned off of him.

I just watched the cosmos and sonix, no 3 stocks. Did you mean 3-0’s?

DLC privilege

It's not that bad. Both players think the MU is even, Leo is just a way better player.

No puff beats byleth's crappy frame data when cornered. The only way Byleth can hit puff is he reads puffs movement and retreats now and then, this retreating will lead to him being cornered (upair->rest，fthrow->gimp, air combos). MkLeo can read players movement unlike any other player so his attacks will actually hit.

Matchup is not in byleth favor stop saying bs

Isn't he the one who pioneered it in smash 4? Dude is full of talent.

sorry i'm a bit confused brother, what is the pivot tech ?

@@poloswis1713 the slingshot

@@thelordoftheweebs9501 yeah he would perfect pivot often in sm4sh so slingshot must feel really natural to him. The motion to execute it consistently is similar

@@mcrsmash8319 do you mean using the same slingshot mechanic to kind buffer pivot grabs ? Basically slingshot but instead of inputting jump input grab yes ?

They have played each other multiple times

@@Hippienolic2 No way really?? Do you know where I can find it? I've always wondered who the better puff would be but just assumed they've never played each other since Hbox doesn't play ultimate and I've only heard of bassmage a couple months ago

@@mashedt8rs290 Hbox's main content nowadays is Ultimate, not sure why you say he doesn't play it, lol. And to answer your question: Hbox doesn't hold a candle to Bassmage in ult.

@@mashedt8rs290 he does play ultimate a fair bit, but bassmage is a MUCH better ultimate player

@@CG-qx1yt huh I didn't know hbox was getting into ultimate, tbf I haven't played smash in a while and just now getting back into it. Last time I watched Hbox he primarily played melee and a bit of brawl but never really played ultimate

En especial en ese minuto 12:35

Cuz he's an amazing player

That's pretty common, they never learn

Sonic adventure 2 battle, da 🐐

No

Nah, it’s just Byleth being byleth

No

Is Darth Vader also a Byleth main?

He’s most skilled with puff tho

Minuto?

probably a combination of nerves + not fully believing in the read. there's sure to be a lot of pressure when going up against the #1 player

If he missed the read and went for sing or rest, he would have literally died. If he missed the up tilt read, he would not have even gotten punished. Use your head

@@lucidsoups your 100% correct

@@lucidsoups He could have also done retreating fsmash hitting with the back of the fsmash so that he will be far away if he misses it or falling upair -> rest.

Por mi parte apoyo a Bass, sin él Jigglypuff no tendría la fama que tiene ahora en ultimate

You can watch a match and not cheer for anyone

@@ABC-ik9vj Nunca destacó y no tenía resultados favorables cada vez que participaba en Ultimate, sigue siendo bueno pero solo en Melee.

Mango lo empezó Hungrybox lo perfeccionó y bassmage lo Continuó y sigue siendo el mejor jigglypuff de ultimate

Estás ante el mejor main Puff de Ultimate, al menos le ganó un set a Leo

murray🤣

@@leun88 yup! I couldn’t think of his name for some reason lol. Haven’t seen the show in years but god he’s like identical to Murray lol

2022 and people still don't know how RU-vid works

@@brandonleorsamayoa3056 LOL fax

Even matchup. Leo just played better than bassmage

@@JB-fd8jy meh bot a big difference but byleth wins

@@JB-fd8jy not even, definitely +1 byleth, not more due to byleth being slow, if byleth was faster then this would’ve been an easy +3 for him

@@davidvilla1247 it is even. I play puff and it always feels doable. Byleth is also edguardable. Also even bassmage and Leo have in their matchup charts this matchup as even

@@JB-fd8jy byleth can also use up B for defense, plus I don’t see him easy to edge guard and do not don’t forget byleth can break shields and you know who dies if their shield breaks

EE was railing lines in the bathroom, its vegas

That whole last game felt like bassmage approaching with pound and getting punished every time lol

12:33 Bassmage knows this. He predicted he was going to the side, attacking with a f-air, and missed by pixels. Mkleo was in the right position to punish that whiff. Respect the top players.

literally scorpion: "Get over here!"

Bassmage is very good and has impressed. Jigglypuff had insane combos and can edge guard amazing but she get held back by projectiles, range and dies so early. She also dies if her shield breaks. Those are huge disadvantages that outweighs her advantages. Her placement is lower mid to mid

no bc byleth dtilt kills puff at like 80

50k ur folding too 😂😂😂

Cuz’ they’re not, it’s def like nair and dash attack or forward throw

Its dair and f throw, also sing is a very shitty move.

Also bass doesn't use rest because its risky and he'd rather outplay the opponent

Because if you don't have a guaranteed setup, a player like Leo will easily capitalize and take the stock.

Shit I wouldn’t be using Rest against MkLeo.

They do, but it seems they're not!

@Joshua Suh So you thinking low tier? Maybe, I mean Byleth does suck. Maybe low tier, you could be right.

@@iamCifu i cant tell if this is satire

Jigglypuff is for sure a Mid Tier and you can see how she struggles to find KOs and open up %. Almost all MidTiers struggle in these.

@@wits_end. with that frame data and mobility, no. Mid tier

@@stevenliang3213 really? Frame six nair with a landing hitbox and low end lag, literally considered by top players as one of the best in the game