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Douglas X-3 Stilleto - The Dagger That Could Barely Fly 

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When WW2 ended, the US began conducting experiments with aircraft capable of Mach 1 speed at a steady pace. US engineers knew that supersonic fighters and jets were the future of aerial combat.
Some designs were successful, but with technology advancing quickly with every new discovery, the US Air Force wanted to take it to the next level.
With the sole purpose of getting ahead of the Soviet Union in the arms race, the rising enemy of the decades-long Cold War, the US government was focused on developing cutting edge military-grade technology before the Soviets did.
The US Army and USAF requested aircraft companies to develop a design capable of reaching or surpassing Mach 2 and maintaining such speed.
The result was the ambitious Douglas X-3 Stiletto.
Produced by the renowned Douglas Aircraft Company, who gave the US and the Allies the legendary Douglas SBD, nicknamed Slow But Deadly, and the rugged A-20 Havoc, the Stiletto was a unique piece of engineering.
It was the sleekest of the early experimental aircraft of supersonic speeds. It was a one-man jet made entirely of aluminum with a very unique look never quite seen before.
Nonetheless, although the long and slim fuselage had the looks to accomplish its goals, the X-3 Stiletto fell short of its performance goals. It proved underpowered to the grand idea of reaching Mach 2, as it could barely get to Mach 1.
It's testing, though, gave engineers the insights needed to produce the Lockheed F-104 Starfighter. This plane had a similar trapezoidal wing and could successfully reach Mach 2 speeds easily.
Today, the Douglas X-3 Stiletto is remembered for its slender look and its ambitious capabilities that distanced its design from other iconic Douglas aircraft that were bulky, rugged, and built for intense combat situations.
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@oldgysgt
@oldgysgt 3 года назад
This video doesn't mention that the X-3 also had a big drag problem because of the "Area Rule" phenomenon. Later Mach 2 aircraft solved this problem by using a "pinched" or "Coke bottle" fuselage profile in the area where the wing joins the air-frame. You will notice the X-3 fuselage sides are perfectly straight at that location. My college mechanical drawing teacher, Mr. Gibbs, (who designed the landing gear of the P-38 while working for Lockheed as an engender before WW2), explained this aerodynamic phenomenon to us . He retired from Lockheed in the mid 50's but not before working for a while on the XF-104 project. He became a teacher after retirement, but died from cancer in 1965.
@raymondweaver8526
@raymondweaver8526 3 года назад
What a privilege to have a professor with that kind of background. I gave him a lot of credibility
@oldgysgt
@oldgysgt 3 года назад
@@raymondweaver8526; and on top of that, he was a hell of a nice guy. We were all sad when he passed.
@a-a-ronbrowser1486
@a-a-ronbrowser1486 3 года назад
Thank you for sharing. That was pretty interesting
@L33tSkE3t
@L33tSkE3t 3 года назад
@mandellorian I believe it's because most modern fighters rely more on Super cruise rather than lighting the thirsty afterburners so that the planes range could be extended to further mission parameters
@noneapplied8204
@noneapplied8204 3 года назад
I wound up meeting the man who set the speed records in the f-104 starfighter, David Waldrop "the shark" lol cool guy. I was a kid at an airshow, and he let me put on his flight helmet
@robertphillips6296
@robertphillips6296 3 года назад
Even though it didn’t perform as expected, I am glade it didn’t cost any lives, that it survived and was preserved.
@punkvoid9957
@punkvoid9957 3 года назад
The wings are too short!!! There I figured it out with one glance... The designer needs his head examined or should have stuck to working on the set of flash Gordon. To fix it would need Delta wing's & nose canards also flight computer to improve stability
@richardivonen3564
@richardivonen3564 3 года назад
Research and development is as much about finding out what doesn't work as it is about finding out what does. Then again, silly putty was pure serendipity.
@canoestothemoon
@canoestothemoon 3 года назад
One of the sleekest looking craft in the collection at Wright-Patterson. Looks like its doing Mach 2 standing still.
@chadcuckproducer1037
@chadcuckproducer1037 3 года назад
Meanwhile asymmetric wing plane does great... Wtf
@andie_pants
@andie_pants 3 года назад
I remember being a kid in teh 80s before they put up barriers. This was one that was low enough I could stick my head in the exhaust outlet.
@jaex9617
@jaex9617 3 года назад
I guess looks aren't everything. 😬
@jaex9617
@jaex9617 3 года назад
@Jack King 😂😂😂😂😂 Just glad it didn't take out any pilots.
@leesmith6792
@leesmith6792 3 года назад
Yes it does!
@ImplodedAtom
@ImplodedAtom 3 года назад
Aircraft nearly kills test pilot. Test Pilot: "Again! Again!"
@theFLCLguy
@theFLCLguy 3 года назад
It's a thin line between bravery and insanity. Piloting a jet alone is brave, flying something experimental is mental.
@Zaprozhan
@Zaprozhan 3 года назад
Single engine landing, on afterburner..... Jesus.
@anthrax2525
@anthrax2525 3 года назад
@@Zaprozhan And even Jesus is sweating during that one.
@nigeh5326
@nigeh5326 3 года назад
@@theFLCLguy yep one man runs at the enemy alone and is shot ‘he must have gone mad’, one man runs at the enemy and takes out a machine gun nest and is shot and it’s ‘give that man a medal’.
@Year2047
@Year2047 3 года назад
Why do you think the first astronauts were test pilots?
@SuperTrb0
@SuperTrb0 3 года назад
The tail section where the engine exhaust is looks very F4 phantomish.
@aurktman1106
@aurktman1106 3 года назад
Was just gonna post this. Glad I checked the comments first!
@paulgrimmond6296
@paulgrimmond6296 3 года назад
More like a F-101 Voodoo I think. Buid dates closer too.
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 3 года назад
It’s like a lot of McDonnell fighters. The configuration dates from the FH Phantom in 1945. It’s just odd that it’s in a Douglas aircraft.. as the two companies wouldn’t merge until the mid 60s... but the configuration does minimize losses from long intakes and exhausts.
@SuperTrb0
@SuperTrb0 3 года назад
It’s cool how a lot of these X planes lead to development of not just one aircraft but the different design elements found their way into other aircraft as well.
@paulgrimmond6296
@paulgrimmond6296 3 года назад
@Charles Yuditsky I don't know about that. The UK, Canada and Australia all had aircraft ready for manufacturing at the time of the century aircraft and were all scrapped due to marketing and budgets of a collapsing empire. Make no mistake, all were superior in the roles designed than what they actually got. The one outlier would be the F-111 in Australia which was the perfect plane for the perfect job.
@SPak-rt2gb
@SPak-rt2gb 3 года назад
Looks like one of those land speed record cars
@jocax188723
@jocax188723 3 года назад
I still think the Stiletto got ripped off. It's like driving a Ferrari with the engine of a Fiat Panda. Not quite fair.
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 3 года назад
Maybe it should have been more like a Lotus with a Toyota four cylinder?
@vikassm
@vikassm 3 года назад
They didn't have CAD or carbon fiber composites (or any composites). Any more power and It would have torn itself to shreds during simple manoeuvres.
@florbfnarb7099
@florbfnarb7099 3 года назад
@Charles Yuditsky - Yeah, if it pulled that crap at just over Mach 1, at Mach 2 it would have been even worse.
@fiftystate1388
@fiftystate1388 3 года назад
@Charles Yuditsky Have you heard of any simulation of the X-3? I know the ME-163 Komet was tested and found to be incapable of supersonic flight even with a higher ISP fuel and motor. I.e. tested using computer simulation, that is.
@chuckhainsworth4801
@chuckhainsworth4801 3 года назад
@@fiftystate1388 through the 50s and on into the 70s it was drawing board, then wind tunnel testing. Computers were only used in the periphery, checking calculations mainly. Mainframes at this point had as much processing power as a mid-1980 era washing machine, and slower inputs. Another thing you need to consider is where they got the data that built the simulators used today. These flying test beds of the 'X' program provided much of that data.
@PanzerDave
@PanzerDave 3 года назад
This shows the amazing skill and daring of those test pilots! Today's test pilots still put themselves at risk, but the ones back then didn't have anywhere near the database we do today.
@emaheiwa8174
@emaheiwa8174 3 года назад
It looked cool as hell. It doesn't matter if it was crap
@gdubya83
@gdubya83 3 года назад
lol that is a nice pos. Salute to the engineers. Working on something that may have failed but it contributed to greater designs
@jaex9617
@jaex9617 3 года назад
Well, it kinda does. 🤔
@snoochpounder
@snoochpounder 3 года назад
Which is the exact opposite of good engineering
@waterheaterservices
@waterheaterservices 3 года назад
Like my 1986 Camaro
@christosvoskresye
@christosvoskresye 3 года назад
@@snoochpounder The exact opposite of good engineering is good marketing, so ... yeah.
@Justanotherconsumer
@Justanotherconsumer 3 года назад
An important reminder of why we don’t hide failures - there are a lot of important lessons that were learned from this flop. Lesson #1 - just because it looks fast doesn’t mean anything.
@mydogbrian4814
@mydogbrian4814 3 года назад
- You would be suprised how many things survive on looks alone. Otherwise Hollywood & Playboy would have never existed.
@christosvoskresye
@christosvoskresye 3 года назад
These failures were almost certainly "hidden", if by that you mean classified. The successes would have been, too. You don't want to hide these results from the engineers or policy makers, but that's about it.
@jamesricker3997
@jamesricker3997 3 года назад
Lesson #2 - have a suitable backup power plant option in case the first one does not work
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 3 года назад
It’s not easy to have a suitable backup. This was the dawn of the jet age. Most American manufacturers were making copies of British engines like the Allison J33 and Pratt & Whitney J48. Only Westinghouse had experience with American designed axial-flow turbojet engines in the immediate post-war years due to the unique combination of it being a steam turbine manufacturer (rather than a turbocharger manufacturer like GE) and that it was given the specifications of turbojet engines from British data (ie: mass airflow, fuel flow, pressure ratios, combustion temperatures, etc) but not the configuration.. leading them to develop an axial flow engine independently as a solution. Axial flow allows the engine to have a low frontal area for low drag, allows easy scaling to larger engines and higher pressure ratios by adding compressor stages (a centrifugal engine can only have two due to ducting losses between stages). But the problem is that unlike a centrifugal compressor or a turbocharger.. the pressure rise is linear and not exponential with RPM. This increases back pressure very quickly which results in compressor stall unless something is done about it. A bleed valve is suitable for smaller engines like the J30 and J34.. but the pressures are too high once you get to larger engines that you’d never get the valve to stay closed. Westinghouse couldn’t figure it out.. and it wasn’t just the X-3 that had that problem-it was a low production aircraft that needed an off-the-shelf engine-but most of the US Navy’s upcoming fighters and interceptors like the F4D Skyray, F7U Cutlass, and F3H Demon all of which were supposed to use larger Westinghouse engines and had to be cancelled or heavily modified for other engines when the J40 and J46 failed. Pratt & Whitney would eventually design the J57 which used two spools to solve the compressor issue, and GE would design the J79 which used variable stators to unload the compressor as it accelerated. The SR-71 would have suffered the same fate too with the J-58... the only off-the-shelf engine that had enough thrust to push it past Mach 3. It was modified heavily with bypass tubes to the afterburner not to make it a ram jet.. but to reduce the pressure in the compressor which was designed to produce high static thrust for a jet powered flying boat.
@punkvoid9957
@punkvoid9957 3 года назад
The wings are too short!!! There I figured it out with one glance... The designer needs his head examined or should have stuck to working on the set of flash Gordon. To fix it would need Delta wing's & nose canards also flight computer to improve stability
@andie_pants
@andie_pants 3 года назад
This was one of my favorites as a kid at the National Museum of the USAF. :-D
@randykerchmar5296
@randykerchmar5296 2 года назад
If memory serves, it was right across from the Goblin, under the B-36.
@markw208
@markw208 3 года назад
Thanks for the video and information. I had a model of this in the 60’s. It looked very futuristic. Several, or maybe many, early jets in the U.S. were underpowered. Also, if you notice some early jet designs have engine intakes flush with the fuselage. This seemed logical but actually DECREASED airflow into the engines due to boundary turbulence. Now all high speed jets have separation between fuselage and engine nacelles.
@vistabuntuu
@vistabuntuu 3 года назад
As a Kerbal Space Program player, I watch these vids for plane design ideas. Both good and bad ones. Because sometimes it's fun to sacrifice a few brave kerbals in ways that none have been sacrificed before 😅
@laszlokaestner5766
@laszlokaestner5766 3 года назад
Pilot Walker - nearly gets killed twice by the X3 during one flight. A month later - "Do you fancy having another go?" Walker "Yeh, why not?" That was bravery verging on foolhardiness but I guess he learnt a lot about regaining control from the first two incidents and figured that he had it covered.
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 3 года назад
He was killed a few years later when his F-104 collided with an XB-70 because he flew too close and was thrown by wing vortices of the larger aircraft. It was partially as a result of a rushed mission for a photo op that didn’t have the required pilot briefing that is essential for any formation flying.
@markbrown2450
@markbrown2450 3 года назад
@@Bartonovich52 I wonder how many other near misses he had as a test pilot. I guess if you are a test pilot, you can only have so many near misses before something bad happens.
@AlmightyDude420
@AlmightyDude420 3 года назад
Amazing footage of an aircraft I always wanted to know more about. This channel is amazing
@kitemanmusic
@kitemanmusic 3 года назад
This must be the most streamlined aircraft ever flown. I had a plastic model of this plane, made by Revell. The wings were a successful shape! Not swept back, but also featured on the Bell X1, and the Lockheed Star Fighter.
@thedungeondelver
@thedungeondelver 3 года назад
I remember when I first saw photos of the X-3 when I was in college; I assumed that it was from the late 60s or early 70s...not the late 40s/early 50's! Definitely a futuristic bird. Pity about the speed, but the design study still helped quite a bit.
@notaulgoodman9732
@notaulgoodman9732 Год назад
I also thought it was from the 60s! Had that James Bond feel.
@christosvoskresye
@christosvoskresye 3 года назад
9:51 The plane was so fast, it went back in time by a decade!!! That, or somebody needs an editor.
@davis4555
@davis4555 3 года назад
Yeah, he screws up years fairly often. It's the worst part of the channel. Still a good channel, though.
@andyburk4825
@andyburk4825 3 года назад
C'mon, man !
@thecompulsivemusician8889
@thecompulsivemusician8889 3 года назад
If my calculations are correct, when this thing hits 88mph...
@florbfnarb7099
@florbfnarb7099 3 года назад
He makes several mistakes early on. Also spends WAY too much time talking about the entirely unrelated SBD in a video about the X-3.
@likeabaws124578
@likeabaws124578 3 года назад
@@thecompulsivemusician8889 ahahahahahhaahaha..... the irony ahahaha
@blacksheep25251
@blacksheep25251 3 года назад
When I was a kid (around 12 or so. I'm now 45), I was HUGE into aircraft and would read tons of books on it. These videos take me RIGHT back to seeing "I remember that plane!" and the imfo behind it! Both my inner adult and inner child are squealing in joy! What a great video!
@paulgentile1024
@paulgentile1024 2 года назад
I'm 66 and yes I can remember building all kinds of model airplanes including this... Incredible memories
@brotherjim3051
@brotherjim3051 3 года назад
Honestly this is the kind of content I go for.
@jimcabezola3051
@jimcabezola3051 3 года назад
Have been waiting for an episode on the Douglas X-3 Stiletto!
@tonydagostino6158
@tonydagostino6158 3 года назад
I had a Revell model kit of this plane when I was a kid. It had about a dozen pieces. Two fuselage halves, two wings, two stabilizers, a rudder and the two windscreen pieces. It was not a challenging project but it looked fast
@Gorilla_Jones
@Gorilla_Jones 3 года назад
It probably couldn't fly because it looks exactly like something I would have drawn in 3rd grade.
@jaex9617
@jaex9617 3 года назад
😂GJ, I had the same thought. Looks fast, tho.🏁
@kristianarnryd9739
@kristianarnryd9739 3 года назад
For sure!
@joeshmoe9978
@joeshmoe9978 3 года назад
Probably with a hot rod style flames paint job too. 😁
@kristianarnryd9739
@kristianarnryd9739 3 года назад
Ironically meant.
@channelsixtysix066
@channelsixtysix066 3 года назад
Ha, a kid's doodling during class.
@DavidALovingMPF102
@DavidALovingMPF102 3 года назад
I was a neighbor to Frank Everest in Virginia, just outside of 7 Corners. Outside of D.C. He took me squirrel hunting. Squirrel tastes terrible. He was a nice guy, kinda short. He gave me a book about himself called Fastest Man Alive. He was one of the reasons I joined the USAF.
@shawncrosby311
@shawncrosby311 3 года назад
And then your mom got a job!!!!
@DavidALovingMPF102
@DavidALovingMPF102 3 года назад
@@shawncrosby311 He had a nice wife and my mom WAS single. She worked for Nixon and Ford. She had some government guys over now and then. As I remember, they all looked like secret service guys.
@shawncrosby311
@shawncrosby311 3 года назад
@@DavidALovingMPF102 thats awesome! I bet frank had some crazy stories and its even cooler you can now research and watch the actual footage of said stories. I would be lying if i said i werent jealous
@barretblake
@barretblake 3 года назад
Small correction. The National Museum of the USAF only has 1 floor for aircraft. But there are 4 buildings and the X-3 is in Building 4 in the R&D Gallery.
@mydogbrian4814
@mydogbrian4814 3 года назад
- I didn't see it there (X-3). But I did see the B-70. And was heartbroke that it was sitting alone outside exposed to the elements.
@barretblake
@barretblake 3 года назад
@@mydogbrian4814 the Valkyrie was moved inside and cleaned up years ago. It looks fantastic now. There's almost nothing left outside now.
@markbrown2450
@markbrown2450 3 года назад
When I was a kid, I loved seeing the aircraft and missiles outside as we would approach the museum. I am glad everything is inside now, but I also missed that release of anticipation when I went this last October.
@AllTradesGeorge
@AllTradesGeorge Год назад
I wondered about that. My family visited the Museum (about forty years ago, now)--my oldest brother was stationed at WPAFB. I didn't remember any multi-story buildings with planes on display...
@joeschmalhofer6109
@joeschmalhofer6109 3 года назад
There are only 2 floors in the museum. The X3 is located in building 4.
@TheBigMclargehuge
@TheBigMclargehuge 3 года назад
I'm so glad people like you share such relevant facts
@My3nMy4
@My3nMy4 3 года назад
@@TheBigMclargehuge He's not wrong.
@clearcreek69
@clearcreek69 3 года назад
I'm an aircraft buff & thought I was in heaven when the narrator said 4 floors at the USAF museum. I'll have to check out the museum one of these days. I know I'll be impressed with the collection.
@joeylawn36111
@joeylawn36111 3 года назад
Right next to the XB-70, as shown in the last frame of the video.
@JRB-uy4ml
@JRB-uy4ml 25 дней назад
@@clearcreek69 Each building is a progression through aviation and military flight history.
@jbmbryant
@jbmbryant 3 года назад
I remember building a model of this back in 1962 and hearing 'The Stripper' on the radio. Ah, memories...
@fredblonder7850
@fredblonder7850 3 года назад
I had that same model. Don’t remember the Stripper though.
@johnhutchison9782
@johnhutchison9782 3 года назад
I built mine in 1981.👍
@davidbono9359
@davidbono9359 3 года назад
The X-3 was the very first model kit I built (a few years later, maybe 1971-ish).
@jerrysmith7166
@jerrysmith7166 2 года назад
What a beautiful airplane, imagine seeing piston engine planes and some of the period fighter jets then seeing this. It still looks futuristic as hell, even they way they wrote x3 on it doesn't look of the era.
@samsignorelli
@samsignorelli 3 года назад
The only X plane to take off under it's own power.
@stankakol5195
@stankakol5195 3 года назад
Not true. Many X planes took off under their own power.
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 3 года назад
X-4, X-5, X-29, X-31.....
@dougball328
@dougball328 3 года назад
Even the X-1 took off under its own power once. I admit, it was a one off, but it did happen.
@horusfalcon
@horusfalcon 3 года назад
SBD actually stood for "Scout Bomber, Douglas". "Slow But Deadly" was the aircraft's well-deserved nickname.
@hokehinson5987
@hokehinson5987 2 года назад
Would be nice to see comparison to the JU - 87 Stuka.
@TheMadVulpen
@TheMadVulpen 3 года назад
Looks like the F-104 starfighter's dad
@user-do5zk6jh1k
@user-do5zk6jh1k 3 года назад
I see the xf-88 voodoo
@barretblake
@barretblake 3 года назад
It pretty much was.
@planestheplaneenjoyer
@planestheplaneenjoyer 3 года назад
i subbed you
@planestheplaneenjoyer
@planestheplaneenjoyer 3 года назад
and in my opinion it seems the plane was made by smashing and f4 and f104 together
@Packless1
@Packless1 3 года назад
...in fact it was a demonstrator/testbed for thin, low streching-ratio wings later used on the Starfighter...!
@mikemathews9277
@mikemathews9277 3 года назад
The Edsel of the aircraft industry.
@acajutla
@acajutla 3 года назад
The Stiletto looks more male than female.
@skullduggery7917
@skullduggery7917 3 года назад
The YF 23 should have won
@musewolfman
@musewolfman 3 года назад
Hardly. The Edsel delivered the promised performance. Also, the Stiletto was pretty.
@firewalker1372
@firewalker1372 3 года назад
😂. Couldn’t of explained it any better, brilliant my friend.
@shawncrosby311
@shawncrosby311 3 года назад
@@skullduggery7917 wrong video bud lol
@mikegrazick1795
@mikegrazick1795 3 года назад
This stiletto could not reach up with high heels.
@mydogbrian4814
@mydogbrian4814 3 года назад
- The X-3 has always been my favorite jet plane, I even built a model of it as a kid. - It always looked like a "kick-ass" mach-3.3 capable aircraft just rolling out of the hanger & parked on the tarmac (apron). - If it would have been fitted with GE-79 engins 2 years later. It would have matched its looks with its performance. > Just like its ofsprings, the F-104 Starfighter eventually did....
@somewhatsomething4882
@somewhatsomething4882 2 года назад
Yeah but the starfighter was barely fit for combat itself.
@mydogbrian4814
@mydogbrian4814 2 года назад
@@somewhatsomething4882 - Not so. It did superbly what it was specifically designed to do by the same Kelly Johnson that gave us the the SR-71 - Then suddenly the Air Force decited they wanted it as a multi role craft. - Ever try to turn a Formula racing car into a utility van?
@badboy30093009
@badboy30093009 3 года назад
Your videos are just amazing man keep it up
@lucifermorningstar4548
@lucifermorningstar4548 3 года назад
Been waiting for this video. What a bizarre plane.
@brianartillery
@brianartillery 3 года назад
In the list of Douglas aircraft, I would have put the DC3,/C47/Dakota above and beyond all the others, great that they were. DC3's are still flying today, still doing the work they were meant to be used for.
@CharlesStearman
@CharlesStearman 3 года назад
It's 4-engined successor the DC4 was pretty successful as well and a number are still flying. The SBD (or Dauntless) was a dive-bomber and wasn't intended to tangle with Zeros, though its agility enabled it to evade the Japanese fighters in many cases.
@KorianHUN
@KorianHUN 3 года назад
I saw a soviet copy of the DC-3 fly live a couple times in Hungary. People can buy a ticket for a sightseeing flight on one.
@TinkXFD
@TinkXFD 3 года назад
When I was a kid I built a model of this plane. I thought it was the coolest looking plane ever.
@johnmorrison2226
@johnmorrison2226 3 года назад
me too
@jimpike7445
@jimpike7445 3 года назад
Me too!
@dsnodgrass4843
@dsnodgrass4843 3 года назад
It was a super-popular model airplane to build in the 1970s; so you're not alone.
@hansstopfer878
@hansstopfer878 3 года назад
me too. I also built the X 15. The kit of the X3 was completely white, whereas the X 15 was completely black. I loved both equally.Bye Hans.
@tarasbulba3190
@tarasbulba3190 3 года назад
Built a Revell model of this when I was a kid. Loved the sleek look.
@johnmontag
@johnmontag 3 года назад
Absolutely love all your video's!
@MrZorro3250
@MrZorro3250 3 года назад
The engine exhaust reminds me of the f4 phantom..and the European jaguar
@paulos7089
@paulos7089 3 года назад
True!!
@ShortArmOfGod
@ShortArmOfGod 3 года назад
Not the american Jaguar?
@skylined5534
@skylined5534 3 года назад
@@ShortArmOfGod Nope. Nothing to to with the USA. It was a totally Anglo-French plane.
@guidor.4161
@guidor.4161 3 года назад
It doesn't seem to follow the area rule, which helps explain why it performed poorly
@lairdcummings9092
@lairdcummings9092 3 года назад
"F4 Phantom II" Area Rule airframe isn't strictly required. The X3 primary failing is it's anemic engines.
@timgarrett203
@timgarrett203 3 года назад
Area ruling is primarily to address the cross sectional area of the wing. The X-3’s wing is so thin and small as to not need much compensation.
@guidor.4161
@guidor.4161 3 года назад
@@timgarrett203 That does make a lot of sense, thanks very much.
@CritterFritter
@CritterFritter 3 года назад
So many elements found in later aircraft. Great video👍
@smashitupkcco9073
@smashitupkcco9073 3 года назад
This is the quality content I come here for.
@j.griffin
@j.griffin 3 года назад
Re: The Title of the Video STILETTO not Stilleto.
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 3 года назад
A bit disappointing from an otherwise pretty consistent historical/educational channel.
@TheBigMclargehuge
@TheBigMclargehuge 3 года назад
Oh good you just saved me a point on my next aviation history exam. You're a hero.
@bobbyboy4496
@bobbyboy4496 3 года назад
@@TheBigMclargehuge GOOD LUCK
@scootergeorge9576
@scootergeorge9576 3 года назад
@Galileo7of9 - I do not believe so. It true, please provide at least 3 examples errors.
@scootergeorge9576
@scootergeorge9576 3 года назад
@J B - Consistently error prone means more than a single error. You mean no mushroom cloud on the moon? In any case, with the naked eye, only the flash would have ben visible.
@christophermudgett9868
@christophermudgett9868 3 года назад
What a sad aircraft. This spawned the f104 starfighter "AKA" the widowmaker.
@sevi117
@sevi117 3 года назад
Well, the Luftwaffe got bribed by Lockheed and took a high speed-high altitude supersonic interceptor, loaded it with a ton of bombs and used it as a low level bomber. Of course that wasn't going to end well... It really was a great aircraft. The Germans just gave it the opposed job it should have been doing.
@nigeh5326
@nigeh5326 3 года назад
@@sevi117 there was a lot of bribery and offering gifts of vacations, nights with women etc back then. We will never find out about most of it
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 3 года назад
Spain didn’t lose a single one. And you can’t tell me the Luftwaffe or RCAF were doing things like this with their Starfighters. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jyBDEG9dg-Q.html It was the pilots.
@sevi117
@sevi117 3 года назад
@@Bartonovich52 as I said, Germany planned to use it as a low level fihhter-bomber (the most opposite role that design would have). So they trained for that. Also the German variant didn't only have the extra weight of bombs, but also it had more fuel (more weight) and extra equipment for its role (even more distractions for the pilots). Erich Hartmann, the world highest fighter ace rejoined the German air force (he became the commander of the first German all jet fighter wing) on 1956. He opposed to the introduction of the Starfighter on that role and opposed it's adoption by the air force saying that it was an unsafe and flawed aircraft (obviously he was talking about the low level version. Tell him that they would use at high altitude without bombs as it was designed for and he would have said otherwise).
@punkvoid9957
@punkvoid9957 3 года назад
The wings are too short!!! There I figured it out with one glance... The designer needs his head examined or should have stuck to working on the set of flash Gordon. To fix it would need Delta wing's & nose canards also flight computer to improve stability
@topphemlig1191
@topphemlig1191 3 года назад
Fantastic series folks, absolutely riveting!
@Kilgore0Trout
@Kilgore0Trout 3 года назад
Thanks, you gave me all the info I needed in the intro.
@lancelotkillz
@lancelotkillz 3 года назад
I was thinking the same thing...
@nitehawk86
@nitehawk86 3 года назад
Love the music in this episode.
@dystopianlucidity4448
@dystopianlucidity4448 3 года назад
I’m going to the museum that she is currently in, in a few weeks!
@Vanilla0729
@Vanilla0729 3 года назад
That museum is the only thing I miss about living in Ohio.
@Twobarpsi
@Twobarpsi 3 года назад
This channel is awesome!
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 3 года назад
The project was a bit _too_ ambitious because it encountered a really nasty instability issue called _inertia coupling_ . But it did give a lot of insight into that issue, and later supersonic aircraft had larger tail surfaces and wings to improve high speed stability.
@chrisc.2626
@chrisc.2626 3 года назад
Im kinda digging the way it looks...Though you could probably expect that from me considering my all-time favorite Fighter Jet is the F-104 lol.
@adamk6075
@adamk6075 3 года назад
Does this guy copulate in this voice? “You like that, don’t you. You naughty, naughty girl. I could produce enough thrust to reach Mach 2.”
@BobbyGeneric145
@BobbyGeneric145 3 года назад
Excellent video
@mydogbrian4814
@mydogbrian4814 3 года назад
Barret Blake; Thanks for the update, (Re: B-70). It always bothered me, with it being outside & exposed to the weather. 👍
@neilcheng4429
@neilcheng4429 3 года назад
Cool documentary cool narration love the uploads thank u Please tell me the background music soundtrack
@adamrose744
@adamrose744 3 года назад
The music in this video is just as amazing as the information. How about music descriptions in the vids?
@yogurtdrift9872
@yogurtdrift9872 3 года назад
This
@pbr-streetgang
@pbr-streetgang 3 года назад
Thanks for the vid sir.
@daikucoffee5316
@daikucoffee5316 3 года назад
Beautiful.
@poplee6478
@poplee6478 3 года назад
I personally prefer the "SBD-3 Dauntless" No daunt in that plane, kind of cool, although it is slow but deadly too
@poplee6478
@poplee6478 3 года назад
Cool videos too, the stilleto looks like a cartoon drawing
@athelwulfgalland
@athelwulfgalland 3 года назад
He did a video on the SBD and apparently he got it in his head that it's official military designation was Slow, But Deadly. I'm sure some pilots genuinely referred to the SBD by that moniker but it was absolutely not a universal view. Maybe he thought that SBD was shorthand for that rather than Scout-Bomber Douglas? Did you catch how he mentioned the SBD in the following context; "From 1941 until the beginning of 1943 the Douglas SBD would be the vanguard of the US air corps fighting off the Japanese Zeros in Midway, Guadalcanal, Tarawa and the Solomon Islands Campaign." Last I checked the USAAC was reformed as the USAAF in June of 1941 which was well before the US entered the war. Even still less than a sixth of them were appropriated for USAAF service under the designation A-24 Banshee. Finally a grand total of 138 air-to-air victories were credited to the type throughout the entirety of the war; Hardly what I'd consider a vanguard for fighting off the swarms of A6Ms in those campaigns? lol If these were seldom and occasional gaffes I think I could still manage to continue to enjoy the channel without coming off sounding like a troll. However as an avid military aviation history enthusiast it becomes very difficult. In fact, I think I'll be unsubscribing after this one. His facts about the X-3 were relatively good, save for mentioning a test flight of it occurring in 1943 rather than 1953, but it's these continued "subtle" inaccuracies that just grate on my nerves...
@alexander1485
@alexander1485 3 года назад
Helldiver had a cooler name tho
@danweyant707
@danweyant707 3 года назад
@@athelwulfgalland Exactly
@MartinMizner
@MartinMizner 3 года назад
Sad that flight performance wasn't as good as it's design.
@DinoNucci
@DinoNucci 3 года назад
The design = 💩
@christrek1027
@christrek1027 3 года назад
Power plant.
@punkvoid9957
@punkvoid9957 3 года назад
The wings are too short!!! There I figured it out with one glance... The designer needs his head examined or should have stuck to working on the set of flash Gordon. To fix it would need Delta wing's & nose canards also flight computer to improve stability
@dx1450
@dx1450 3 года назад
It may not have flown very well, but you gotta admit it's one badass looking aircraft.
@johnhoon7069
@johnhoon7069 3 года назад
As a kid in the 60s I actually got to see the x3 in a museum and it's stuck with me forever
@grummanf14tomcat40
@grummanf14tomcat40 3 года назад
Idc what you say, it looks great
@poppabear9279
@poppabear9279 3 года назад
But it flies like a Twinkie, without the fun cream filling.
@auburnalum9019
@auburnalum9019 3 года назад
There is no "4th Floor" of the USAF Museum in Dayton. Perhaps Hangar 4
@dbfry1449
@dbfry1449 3 года назад
It sits on the hanger floor, under the wing of the XB-70. Nice location.
@caferace8418
@caferace8418 3 года назад
@@dbfry1449 Can confirm. Saw it a few days ago. Awesome museum. Under the wing of the Valkyrie is a bit vague though. That describes the east end of Dayton. The Valkyrie is mindblowingly huge. Makes the SR-71 next to it look small.
@dbfry1449
@dbfry1449 3 года назад
@@caferace8418 Good to hear, thank you sir. That is a very large plane. For now I can enjoy it through the Google Street View walking tour. Hope to get there soon.
@Cap10VDO
@Cap10VDO 2 года назад
I remember building a model of the X-3 in the early '70s. Very memorable design.
@Bad666Moon
@Bad666Moon 3 года назад
I go to the Air Force museum about once a month as I live only 20 minutes from it. This is one of my favorite planes there.
@randomdeadpool
@randomdeadpool 3 года назад
The video feels like an Ace Combat info before a mission :)
@randallporter4835
@randallporter4835 3 года назад
4th hanger not 4th floor. The USAF Museum only has one floor.
@charlesrice7701
@charlesrice7701 3 года назад
There is a second floor with some offices and a few displays, as well as the museum restaurant. But I still caught what he said. The 4th hanger holds the presidential planes, research and developement aircraft, as well as the shuttle mockup
@jaex9617
@jaex9617 3 года назад
HangAr if we're being picky. But I know what you mean and thank you for the info.
@Billhatestheinternet
@Billhatestheinternet 3 года назад
@@charlesrice7701 Don't forget the (X)B-70. Kinda hard to miss that big bird.
@fustigate314159
@fustigate314159 3 года назад
@@charlesrice7701 and there’s a balcony where you can look over the Peacemaker.
@nigeh5326
@nigeh5326 3 года назад
Can’t wait to visit it along with Arlington to pay my respects, Washington to see the W.H. The Capitol and to just sit in a diner drinking coffee and chatting with average Americans about life there. I’m a Brit btw
@Alfa011
@Alfa011 3 года назад
Loved it!
@ronaldlebeck9577
@ronaldlebeck9577 3 года назад
I wonder what it could do with today's jet engines and avionics... I built a model of this jet back in the 1970's and loved it. Surprisingly, some new experimental supersonic aircraft look similar to the X-3.
@Spartaner251
@Spartaner251 3 года назад
looks like they used the design of the body for the F-101 Voodoo and F-4 Phantom
@billgund4532
@billgund4532 3 года назад
Big problem was power. If the X-3 had the J79 it could've made mach 2 easily.
@Ushio01
@Ushio01 3 года назад
The J79 came 2 1/2 years too late for that though it's use in the F-104 shows your basically right. It just shows how fast aircraft developed from 1945-1960 before costs skyrocketed leading to the big slow down from the mid 1980's till today.
@paoloviti6156
@paoloviti6156 3 года назад
@@Ushio01 yes, the J79 could have been a tremendous help to push the X-3 easily to mach but it would never overcome it's extremely dangerous instability issues. All the the test pilots said that it was the most difficult airplane to fly scaring them shitless...
@billgund4532
@billgund4532 3 года назад
@@Ushio01 How true. My dad was an F-104 pilot in the 60's. When asked what could make the "Zipper" better, his reply was 5,000 lbs more thrust.
@nigeh5326
@nigeh5326 3 года назад
@@billgund4532 also known as the widow maker when the German airforce flew it. The F104, MIG21 and English Electric Lightning are similar in that it was all about speed to climb and catch the enemy. All 3 are icons of early Cold War aviation
@billgund4532
@billgund4532 3 года назад
@@nigeh5326 Mission requirements & technology were rapidly changing at a rapid pace. Had the F-104 been able to employ fly by wire technology, well it would have really been a force of nature. Sadly, dad passed away recently. But I remember him telling me he never felt more alive than when flying the '104. And this coming from a guy calling the F-86 his blue skies mistress.
@keltonfoster
@keltonfoster 3 года назад
Caught by surprise, good one. You're too funny 🤣🤦
@andrewmcphee8965
@andrewmcphee8965 3 года назад
What an awesome looking aircraft. Those test pilots were made of stern stuff. Thanks for the video.
@claycook5773
@claycook5773 3 года назад
Clearly, no concept of the "Area Rule" in this design. Rather like the first F-102. Underpowered engines, for sure, but also significant fuselage drag that they weren't aware of. This is how you learn lessons; you make mistakes.
@jimgraham6722
@jimgraham6722 3 года назад
Yes converse of area rule very draggy above M1.
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 3 года назад
The X-1 and F-100 weren’t area ruled and went supersonic.
@claycook5773
@claycook5773 3 года назад
@@Bartonovich52 True. It's not absolutely required. The X-1 didn't even have swept wings. They didn't know what they didn't know. I flew the T-38 and it had the most lovely "waist" and rather small engines and could go supersonic - barely. I also flew the F-111 which wasn't noticeably area ruled and could exceed mach 2 if provoked. I suspect the X-3 was just another step along the road to really understanding supersonic aerodynamics. Under powered and under designed.
@jimgraham6722
@jimgraham6722 3 года назад
@@claycook5773 Yes, flew F111Cs in 70s. One memorable day during post D test, hit M2.5 at 45,000 ft in level flight, temp was 5C below standard. Had to pull nose up to slow down. Very clean, light and big wings. Not long after VNE reduced to M1.8 to save engines - sad.
@claycook5773
@claycook5773 3 года назад
@@jimgraham6722 C's! Aussie, I assume? Yes, big wings indeed. I flew the F-111F in England in the 80's. I believe some of them went down under after the USAF got rid of them. Our FB-111'a had the big wings. Then SAC got rid of them, and they became F-111G's and I think you got some of them too. I never reached mach 1, but the "pirate" radio stations anchored in the channel in the 80's had huge radio masts, so they were great radar targets. We "boomed" them regularly. Great bird. It remains a privilege to have flown them. Cheers.
@markleuck
@markleuck 3 года назад
at 9:54 you mention 26 flights in 1943, I think you meant 1953
@bubbahottep8644
@bubbahottep8644 3 года назад
This guy could make his Ma making shortbread cookies sound like a spy novel: "Without hesitation, she folded the egg whites... into the sugar mix!"
@andreasleonardo6793
@andreasleonardo6793 3 года назад
Too nice video👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙏 with clear explaining of continued staging of US planes advancing after 2WW...how scientific abilities + economy supplying +advanced technologies abilities interfering to producing M2 speed planes((Douglas X-3 stiletto ) thanks for sending video....👍🦅🇺🇸🦅👍
@4literv6
@4literv6 3 года назад
This and the sr-71 really give one pause. About where aviation has gone since. 🤔
@poplee6478
@poplee6478 3 года назад
Cheaper, more practical designs. I also like the sr-71, but who knows, maybe it will be practical at some point in time
@madarauchiha1218
@madarauchiha1218 3 года назад
SR-72 is in development by lockheed. Wont look anything like the Sr-71 however. Supposedly closer to the F22 of all things.
@j.griffin
@j.griffin 3 года назад
Into the Black.
@polygondwanaland8390
@polygondwanaland8390 3 года назад
Look into the XQ-58A Valkyrie
@xsonohx7961
@xsonohx7961 3 года назад
"The dagger that could barely fly" *Gaijin plsssss*
@punkvoid9957
@punkvoid9957 3 года назад
The wings are too short!!! There I figured it out with one glance... The designer needs his head examined or should have stuck to working on the set of flash Gordon. To fix it would need Delta wing's & nose canards also flight computer to improve stability
@DFX2KX
@DFX2KX 3 года назад
@@punkvoid9957 nobody at the time really knew the aerodynamics of supersonic flight back then. The X1's wings where about the same shape, and the F104's are not that much larger. Computerized Flight Control systems where still 2 decades and change off, too, though had they existed at the time, it would have certainly made it less of a chore to wrestle around the sky.
@tahzibizimungu7677
@tahzibizimungu7677 3 года назад
Something about the designs of the 1950s is the engine configuration, with the tail partially in the exhaust blast. Like an F-4 Phantom...
@jimtaylor294
@jimtaylor294 3 года назад
Only a couple more years before the RR Avon & early Fly-By-Wire controls would've been available. The modifications needed to the airframe though; major speedbump.
@Musicreach101
@Musicreach101 3 года назад
They made planes so difficult to land in the cold war era
@MostlyPennyCat
@MostlyPennyCat 3 года назад
Until we built the F-14/Tornado/Su-24 After that, inherently instantly CADs piloted by FBW became the name of the game and are the ultimate development.
@nigeh5326
@nigeh5326 3 года назад
Yes because engine technology was ahead of other areas. More recently the introduction of more advanced tech has balanced things back up. Not saying landing a modern aircraft is east but now you have backup from tech that takes some of the human factor out so pilots aren’t so overloaded.
@BillLaBrie
@BillLaBrie 3 года назад
I suppose most battle scenarios at he time didn’t expect there would be a place to land.
@nigeh5326
@nigeh5326 3 года назад
@@BillLaBrie certainly not a tarmac runway, that’s why we Brits built the Harrier in part and in conjunction with the French we built the Jaguar with an undercarriage that could handle an uneven grass surface
@koc988
@koc988 3 года назад
@@MostlyPennyCat the F-14 on the boat was called the tukey
@JimKJeffries
@JimKJeffries 3 года назад
It is irresponsible to say that the embargo forced the Japanese into war. The Japanese celebrated a warrior culture, and chose war.
@davegray2428
@davegray2428 3 года назад
Love these aero designs
@SoCalTrooper
@SoCalTrooper 3 года назад
Narrator cracks a beer at 4:35
@jamesw9930
@jamesw9930 3 года назад
A missile with a cockpit
@leesmith6792
@leesmith6792 3 года назад
Exactly!
@deanmilos4909
@deanmilos4909 3 года назад
truest words were never spoken
@leesmith6792
@leesmith6792 3 года назад
@James W that's a perfect description!
@Appalling68
@Appalling68 3 года назад
Hey Dark Skies, love your channel. There's something about the pitch of your voice and style of narration that makes your videos absolutely captivating. Thanks for such interesting videos!
@Zoydian
@Zoydian 3 года назад
Like the design, looks pretty cool, even today!
@mydogbrian4814
@mydogbrian4814 3 года назад
- Bartonovich52; Wow, a very detailed outline of the early 50's engine problems. - The Westinghouse delema (area of former expertise) being its short-fall reminds me of a similar problem in the Soviet Union with the manufacturer selected to build the firdt stage engines for the N-1 moon rocket. The Saturn 5's rival. - Mabe they should have selected Rockerdyne's F-1's ~ lol...
@dumitrescuadrian6594
@dumitrescuadrian6594 3 года назад
Looks like a plane you'd build in ksp out of boredom
@GoodGnewsGary
@GoodGnewsGary 3 года назад
I came here looking for a KSP comment. My day is now better for finding it!
@dumitrescuadrian6594
@dumitrescuadrian6594 3 года назад
:)
@zeroelus
@zeroelus 3 года назад
"That distanced it's design from other iconic Douglas aircraft that where bulky..." A-4: Tehee.
@sloppy-1-1
@sloppy-1-1 3 года назад
F-4: hi there
@zeroelus
@zeroelus 3 года назад
@@sloppy-1-1 bulky...but speedy
@SkyhawkSteve
@SkyhawkSteve 3 года назад
indeed! The A-4 was more iconic than the F4D Skyray... although the Skyray was somewhat like the X-3 in that it looked great, but had a lot of problems.
@Bartonovich52
@Bartonovich52 3 года назад
F-4 was McDonnell.. not Douglas. Also... it’s so funny how everyone thinks the A-4 is tiny. The A-1 Skyraider is about the same empty weight and actually about three tons lighter fully loaded and yet it is never thought of as tiny.
@Biden2024_
@Biden2024_ 2 года назад
*You really know how to go off topic and drag a video out to get that sweet sweet monetization I respect that*
@Robert-ff9wf
@Robert-ff9wf 3 года назад
I always thought this plane looked really cool. It reminds me of the first original Planet of the apes movie. The space ship that Charlton Heston crashed into the lake looked very similar.
@hyperfocal2002
@hyperfocal2002 3 года назад
There are so many errors in fact in this video. Saying it was flown in 1943, rather than 1953, and on from there.
@pascaly
@pascaly 3 года назад
There's usually at least one simple error like that in all their videos.
@foreverpinkf.7603
@foreverpinkf.7603 3 года назад
First the had to catch German engineers to learn how to build jet engines and swept wings. The only jet engine they knew at this time was the DH Goblin used in the Bell Airacomet.
@dougball328
@dougball328 3 года назад
@@pascaly Another error: it was not all aluminum. Titanium was used extensively throughout the airframe. This author doesn't even read the available literature before speaking. Disappointing at best.
@scullystie4389
@scullystie4389 3 года назад
Yeah these videos are usually not perfectly researched. They get the gist of it but make pretty glaring oversights, for example characterizing the SBD Dauntless, a dive bomber, as being a match in battle against the Zero.
@Mr2pint
@Mr2pint 3 года назад
Looks like something aliens would give to humans for sh*ts and giggles 😂
@dinkmartini3236
@dinkmartini3236 3 года назад
I'm afraid to even LOOK at that design for fear I'll knock it into an uncontrollable spin.
@punkvoid9957
@punkvoid9957 3 года назад
The wings are too short!!! There I figured it out with one glance... The designer needs his head examined or should have stuck to working on the set of flash Gordon. To fix it would need Delta wing's & nose canards also flight computer to improve stability
@trigger-red-airsoft
@trigger-red-airsoft 3 года назад
Maybe this is offtopic, but seing your videos with LoFi music in the background is pretty relaxing! Keep it going
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