Down Syndrome Boy Scout Stripped of Merit Badges, Dad sues. 

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@@justinoiler9749 what about Jack Mehoff

*Never try to 'Teach a pig to sing Opera'* *It will frustrate you and annoy the pig*

Thanks for this. This story was very short on details and I was suspicious. Appreciate the context. Glen - how about a little more due diligence in your research instead of just tugging at the heartstrings and bashing a great organization.

An important detail is missing from your insightful post. The BSA ALLOWS Logan to pursue still his path to Eagle past the age of 18 because he is disabled. His dad simply did not need to rush the child as you have indicated he did at the camps because he doesn't have to worry about his son aging out. So, knowing that, the BSA is completely within its rights to demand Logan do it right, especially when they already are granting him extra time to achieve the rank of Eagle. Even after removing his merit badges, he still can earn them again on his own. My oldest son, and Eagle Scout and an assistant scoutmaster, has a girl in his troop who is autistic that is past the age of 18 getting her Eagle this year. They didn't rush her and she has earned every merit badge on her own.

That depends on the reason they remove the badge did they remove it because he did something he knowingly did was wrong or did they remove it for something he couldn't helped if so you're wrong at Cold discrimination

@@higurashianduminekoconnect1702 merit badges were taken away because the scout’s father admitted that his son didn’t complete requirements needed to earn the badges in question.

I have seen unit leaders award their sons merit badges and Eagle Scout when they never showed up or did anything. This is BS.

@@lauranquakenbush5238 yes, I have also seen meritless awarding of advancements after the effect in my council too. It really is sad 😞. The fact that these individuals defend their behavior is what brings this situation to a whole new level of offensive.

There are cases of Eagle Scouts being stripped of their rank because of dishonorable conduct, breaking the Scout Oath or Law.

gabrielgv0619 they viewed him as less than others: this shows people are cruel and mean to people with disabilities

@@gtgt2010-qy7tg no - some 4% of scouts complete eagle. Him not completing - just makes him part of the majority.

I don't know the complete story, but he has requirements that are supposed to be easier than normal. Those requirements go to any form of down syndrome or autism, so anyone with those problems can complete them. It's the same to him as it is to other boys. He has requirements, he needs to do them. BSA is accepting of girls and boys of any kind joining, so no, they don't discriminate others based on personal problems. I'm a scout who comes from a Hispanic origin, and my troop consists of white boys and parents. I'm treated the same, so discrimination is out of the books. He may not have completed the requirements correctly, but suing the organization for discrimination? That's major bull. He's not the only scout with down syndrome, and he won't be the last. BSA takes advancement very seriously, regardless. Down syndrome or not. BSA is not at fault for suspending his work, that happens to scouts without down syndrome. You don't get everything handed to you, especially in scouting. He needs to find out what he needs to work on, get it done, and he's an eagle scout. BSA is not the "bad guys" for suspending work, even if it's a scout with down syndrome. That happens all the time, and you're saying people with down syndrome shouldn't be looked down upon, and neither should others who don't. If you really want this to be fair, then let him deal with the issues assigned to him.

I agree but I think the problem was that he didn’t register as a disabled scout

*'God' certainly 'Blessed' that abomination, yes?*

Adam FUB totally agree. There are a lot of inconsistencies with what happened. Not fully Glenn's fault but it could be in part. Somewhere somebody got the terminology wrong, as is common for non-Scouters.

@@alexandersmith1721 except the news reported the exact same thing so inconsistencies in fact they reinstated it because their policies are still in legal by civil law they quickly going to lose the lawsuit only sue for $1 he just wanted to send a message doing this wrong and it was wrong the reason bass also stopped by losing a lawsuit they were looking at a future of bad publicity I think he's a saint because if they did this to my son through them until there's no way they can fund the Boy Scouts anymore he's got a lot more patience than I would

I don’t know if you watch Glenn very much, but this is a pretty on brand story for him.

Any favors? Are you really that blind to the facts surrounding this disability? Besides, merit badges are about recognition for completing a task, not a declaration of supreme ability to rule the world.

*And I'm 'Hoping' that this creature comes to LIVE WITH YOU and see how you like it*

*Charles Whitman was an 'Eagle Scout' at 12...the youngest ever* *He later in life demonstrated his valuable skills in 'Rifle Shooting' and was very accomplished at it* *GO SCOUTS!*

It's also highly against the law that they did that that's why I am going to tell you the update is they got it all back because yes they had that policy but a policy doesn't protect them from civil laws that's crazy as he only sued for a dollar you want to just send a message they didn't want that bad publicity though of losing the lawsuit so they help them get to Eagle

*Maybe someday you'll equal 'Charles Whitman'* ( *He was an 'Eagle Scout' at 12, the youngest ever*)

Same 😌

Hugo Goerner it’s not that I’m saying that Logan is not worth it, I’m saying that the scouts is no longer the organization it was. It would be a great accomplishment for him to get his eagle. The point I was trying to make is that he still has three years to figure out how to accomplish that goal. It doesn’t have to involve suing the scouts. If you read the news story from the local news (KSL.com) the reply from both the local council and the national council have both said he is not disqualified. He just still has more work that needs to be done. If he wants the eagle, he will go do the work and his parents will help and support him in that.

Alex I absolutely agree. Requirements are set to make a standard. Standards are hard which is why we feel accomplished when we achieve them. Because life is harder for one person (life is suffering for everyone) doesn’t mean we lower standards. I was a Life Scout and a part of the order of the arrow (I feel like a nerd stating that lol) and I feel bad as an adult that I didn’t push for Eagle Scout. Unfortunately I felt that I “grew out of it,” before I could reach that last rank. Nationals set a standard and are asking this young man to meet it. Nothing wrong with that at all imo. Obviously it’s harder to accomplish things when you are at a disadvantage but how much more sweet that victory would be? I hope he sticks with it and becomes an Eagle Scout but he needs to do it the right way as defined by the national org.

Okay so as a pre-emptive reply before I've fully watched the video. If he is downs syndrome, then that would imply they change to the rules to accommodate that disability. You don't judge a fish on its ability to climb trees. And for the same reason, somebody who is challenged with some form of learning disability have a different curriculum to work on, and thus different working life, not a "well if a normal person can do this then you must do it too." Be the best you personally can be, not obtain some set bar that you physically cannot achieve, even if its not your fault.

Alex the Boy Scouts previously agreed to modified requirements for this boy and then rescinded that. It’s wrong!!!! It’s discrimination!!!

no his troop /local council did not the BSA

*I've read and seen that with great efforts and persistence 'Gorillas' and 'Chimpanzees' have been taught some aspects of 'Sign Language'*

Please don't call people "handycaps" . That's just gross.

*No 'Spelling Badge' for you?*

secondone1000 if you want more information beyond what you can find online, you can call the Utah National Parks Council. Probably not worth it though, they have enough to deal with plus people calling them left and right now. I'm sure their front desk is swamped.

Alexander Smith thanks for the info

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Yes but when have you ever known the Boy Scouts are Eagle Scouts to go to war by the way I respect you because you went to war but war is different walks of life pin-up Boy Scout and they're not going to war so there's no excuse for their reasoning for not accepting him I don't want to sound rude because I don't want to disrespect the American soldier in this isn't meant for disrespect but you know nothing about them because the situation is different can't really speak for the Boy Scouts because of the fact that you're expecting them to act the same way as they would in war in the whole reason they don't let people like that in Wars because of the danger there's no danger in the Boy Scouts sociable understanding War for a Boy Scout Wonder stamp Boy Scout Boy Scouts are totally different from the Army

*Robert McNamara disagreed with you and deliberately lowered intelligence-standards during the Viet-Nam era because it was 'expedient to need'* ( *How 'smart' does someone need to be to be taught 'pointy-end is where bullets come out'* )

*I believe 'God' has already 'Blessed' that creature enough*

See I would agree with you if you weren't talking about somebody who is just slacking have no handicap can't do it but when you deny somebody's credibility up how hard they work and how good they do for their disability and how amazing they are for what they do despite their disability then there's something wrong with that that shouldn't even be anything truthful I'm all for not giving out hand out trophies but this is not one of those cases this kid is amazing and he's giving his hundred percent when there's a lot of people out there with no disability who have no drive at all he does better than most people without a disability so I have to disagree with you

I don't disagree with everything that you said but I disagree with that part not about handing it to somebody who didn't deserve it it's about handing it to somebody who has a disability doesn't let it be a good excuse me try his best if he doesn't deserve that then no one does because he's giving his best like everybody else that runs it it's hard work isn't good enough then giving your best isn't how you get it succeeding is it how you get it be more about popularity because as far as I'm concerned if you can't get it and you do your best and you have a handicap then by all means did the people should the people because his handicap is proven but he has more dry than anyone there

@@higurashianduminekoconnect1702 You do make me think a little deeper about the issue.

actually an extension can be requested...contact local district leader for help.

*Did he complete the 'Potty-Training Badge' requirement?*

God bless you also

Cro Minion Thats not what happened at all. They dont make acceptations for Eagle requirements, i had my project rejected twice you change it and come back. Thats the process, hes only 15 he has 2+ years to finish

My initial comment was made in anger, so it was unduly harsh. I have read more on the subject and I do understand why the BSA made the decision they did. I also understand the spirit in which the Scouts awarded him his badges, by giving him some leeway on meeting the requirements. However, perhaps that's not the best way to go about things. I can only say now that I'm still sorry things worked out the way they did for this kid, but I was wrong to place so much blame on the Scouts. I think it was a situation where they were trying to be nice and include this kid and it went a bit further than anyone expected.

Cro Minion Yah its just sad because even if he gets it there will be an asterisk due to the lawsuit about it. If that was my kid id do absolutely anything within my power to avoid the lawsuit because that kind of taints it. I mean end of the day its a patch you can buy for $5, the point is without question i earned it. Point is the boy scouts teach you there is a standard, no matter what you must meet that standard or accept failure. It may sound cruel but its a great way for kids especially boys to realize its not the critic who matters. At some point it becomes you must get up and accomplish something or accept you cant and move on, but if you do thats your decision no one else’s.

Asia Gary There are plenty of brave women who gave up their child for adoption after rape.

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is." -Sister J. Chittister

Asia Gary Gross question.

You can raise the down syndrome babies so..