Dr. Ali Ataie discusses Isaiah 53, and James and Paul 

Did i just get a bucket of knowledge poured on me? This is a very detailed discussion of things i have never known about! It's so interesting and entertaining. I never knew Jesus had a literal brother, James. It's just like Aaron who supported Moses. Great to see Dr Ali Ataie back in the channel. Appreciate the explanation on Isaiah 53 but it seems to be a contentious topic. Thank you Paul for getting guests for discussions in the pursuit of knowledge and truth. Keep on keeping on man!

Is there any other apologist who speaks Arabic, Persian, Hebrew and Greek ? And this was an impressive lecture. I learned many interesting and new details about the earliest Christians. This was fantastic, may Allah bless you both.

Quran always says when one needs to acquire information, go to or ask an expert. I really feel sorry for not only Christians who have been decieved, and also for the exmuslims, who have left their faith due to ignorance. All praises to ALLAH (swt), who has sent to us such knowledgeable scholars in our time, to keep us on the straight path. Alhumbulilaha rubbill alameen!! Jazakallah khair to my brothers Paul and Dr. Ali.

If I had 1 thing to do over again in my beginning years I would become a student of knowledge. I just marvel at how nuanced he is in Theology, quoting in the Herbew and all. Facinating.

Dr. Ali is so intelligent. Loved his scholarly approach to this topic. Love from Bangladesh.

Im from Malaysia and im muslim. I just found your channel and its really interesting the way you explain every topic. MashaAllah. May Allah protect you.👍💗

Two hours seem so short. Please bring him again next time if you have the opportunity. Thanks for the wonderful discussions.

I appreciated this knowledge,and from all of this we could only say Islam is the message to correct the way of the Jews and Christians who deviated away from the true teachings of the previous messages.

Dr. Ali I love your work, brother. I'm a revert from Texas (ex-Catholic Christian) who always had problems with the Eternal Generation of the Son and how it resulted in the Son (God) lacking Self-Sufficiency in some aspect. One of your other lectures blew me away and I can't way to watch this one. God bless you.

Dr. Ali Ataie is, unarguably, a distinguished asset to the modern day academia. May he rise higher! May you, Paul, keep well with your health!

Amazing Paul!! Can you believe how many good people are saying "I didn't know about James"? The truth of James and Nazarenes should be finally be made public!!! And you're doing just that, great work Paul!(not the other Paul)

I like the chemistry between you two. Both know much about the subject. Both are adding into the conversation. Both are very deepened in it. It's somehow very entertaining to follow a proper discussion where the both sides are clearly familiar and interested at the topic in question. Intellectual food.

"The Greek is very, very strong. 'Never did I know you." Thanks for sharing that scripture in the Greek language.

Love these two guys. Beautiful work.

This episode was fascinating! Growing up Catholic, I never hear any of this! Some things didn't add up, and this perspective clarifies so much. Thanks 👍

Paul, i think you should start doing your PhD in theology. I think you have so much understanding of both Christianity and Islam.

another great show from Paul Williams! This highly erudite Dr Ataie can be invited with another fantastic scholar Dr James Tabor to talk more on James, Paul and the Ebionites.

The most complex discussions I have heard so far

I have just watched this for the second or third time. This really is of the very highest order, top quality commentary. Phenomenal content. Really has raised the level of the discourse from our perspective. God bless you both

Dear Paul All credits go to you. Despite the fact that my best teacher has always been Sheikh Hamza Yusuf Mark Hanson, co-founder of Zaytuna College, I never knew they had such a giant of Ancient “Abrahamic” Sacred literature and languages like Dr. Ali Ataie. His Persian origins make him a more tolerant human being, and the fact that he can read and write Arabic, Hebrew, and Greek, makes him unique. I listened to the entire 2 hour-long broadcast, and both your knowledge is remarkable. Usually, I almost always find some fault somewhere, and this time I was in agreement 100% with him and you although my knowledge about the factual details of those sciences is quite limited. Having said that, I wished Dr. Ali Ataie had also mentioned the Mithraic aspects or origins of Roman Christian-Pauline theology. I “knew” the real name of James the Just was Jacob. The French translated James as Jacques. A sick and sickening habit of Westerners to translate proper names! I understood that the British Union Jack represents the Union of Israelites or Jacobites. All this is very confusing to the common believing Christian who belongs to countless denominations that are opposed to each other and even hate each other while preaching the same Bible they know very little about by design. BAFS

What a great academician and what a great interviewer. God Bless! Time to take notes

What an enlightening discussion. Intellect, incomprehensible knowledge, and analytical aptitude that is superior to the majority Dr. Ali. What blessing to have such attributes. Paul you’ve exceeded all expectations with this guest. Truth uncloaked, the epitome of transparency. Thank you Paul and Dr Ali

so many contradictions. i could never get my head around it growing up Irish Catholic

Mindblowing... I was reading that specific surah the other day in Arabic, And I saw Al Nasara... and I look at the translation I see it means the Christians... I was how does it means that?? Here you go I just have my answer! Thank you!

Wow Subhanallah. I did not realize Christianity was much much much sadder than what I had already thought.

Very educational topic i do follow you both of you Christians should learn from these analysis from both Bible & quran ❤

Very heavy stuff yet explained in a very accessible way, truly remarkable. Thank you Paul! You too are a scholar and a great teacher, from the many of the scholarly videos you produce with great research, knowledge and imparted with ease and sincerity clearly from the heart. You're a great man of God Paul (not the apostate Jesus pbuh warned us of, lol) no matter what faith you profess. May Allah protect you and reward you for your sincere endeavour for the benefit of the lay people, particularly our brainwashed Christians brothers and sisters and all people of God including to certain extend Muslims if only from knowledge perspective.

" The point is this: they are very, very sensitive about this passage.... Isaiah 53 is their golden goose." To be honest, I've never studied this chapter of Isaiah. May God enlighten us to understand.

Two hours of pure delight! This kind of video demand many replays and a note book!

1:30:00 - 1:40:00 is mind blowing. Jesus (as) will deny and reject those that made him a God according to the Bible.

Salam brother Paul and Dr Ali. I am from Malaysia. Awesome discussion and knowledge not known by many. Thank you very much. ☝

I really enjoyed this stream and aim to watch it again to absorb all the information contained within. May Allah bless you and Dr Ataie and reward you for passing on the knowledge you have which is a requirement for every Muslim. May Allah guide people to the truth through such efforts. Jazakum Alaahou Khairan brother Paul. Highly educational and in an easy format.

I hope my christian and muslims brothers from Nigeria and west Africa are following this compodium of knowledge channel.

I wish I can give 1000 likes to this wonderful informative video ..

Really enjoyed this!

Dr Ataie should debate Dr Bart Ehrman about the cruci_FICTION and the opinion that Ehrman has about the Quran is taken from the bible AstagfirAllah

Ali Ataie is like Ahmed Deedat on steroids. May Allah bless Dr. Ali and Brother Paul Williams.

again and again and again... when they need the bible to "prove" something, then its of course their "cash cow" but when you nail them on the wall showing them that al lah is not the true god of israel and that mohamad never ever can be a true prophet of god - the bible is corrupted 🤣 dont let them deceive you like satan deceived them, dear brothers and sisters. stay strong in christ. he is our covenant with the true god of isreal, he is our king, he is our messiah, he is our saviour ☦️

Mashalah knowledge is our main

Dr Ali Ataie really did his research.I really respect people speaking without any notes.its like everything already programmed in his head.Thanks for all the knowledge.

Alhamdulillah! Learned a lot.

This has been your best interview ever. Congratulation

OT : verse about anonymous person coughs. Christians : and we see how the prophecy of the cough was fulfilled perfectly, The person whom coughs represent the one being of the trinity and the pushing force of the cough is the Holy Spirit and this cough removed all the dirt from the believers chest which represents Jesus whom removed our sin by dying for us. P.S if you didn’t get it that because you don’t have the Holy Spirit.

*It is really interesting that many OT figures, NT's authors used as (type and shadow) for Jesus, were actually saved and didn't actually get killed!*

Thanks to Paul for introducing us to a wealth of information and resources that Most of us might never have come across otherwise. His work has been transformational in my life. May Allah be pleased with him.

I had a Christian brother yell at me the other day because I told him I didn’t believe Jesus is god. I did tell him I believe in Jesus though and he still flipped and went mad.

Mr Paul let me please thank you for helping Putting Islam teachings on the map for the masses with your short videos and in the intellectual map with your amazing guests, May Allah reward you abundantly.

Paul Williams the man who leave the divine christ for the opposite

I keep coming back to watch Dr Ali on Blogging Theology. I think this is my third time watching this very video and every time I learn more and enjoy more!

Good morning America 🇺🇸 💙 and All Nations. This is the same message from the beginning. Jesus Christ is the message of Salvation. John 14:6. Isaiah. 53:1-8. Is Jesus the Messiah of the Jews and Gentiles. Messiah God with Us Emmanuel 🙏, Prince 🤴 ♥️ 💜 of Peace. (Isaiah 9:6. John 12:38, Rm 10:16, 1 Peter 2:22. Finally Rabbit Tovia Singer is admitting and confessing ,and testifying ; Jesus Christ is the Messiah of the world 🌎 🙏 ❤️. Ali you got it all wrong ; you think in the flesh like a Muslim ☪️ you need to be born again in the Spirit.John 3:3 . Christian ✝️ have being born again have enter and see the Kingdom of God. Because the Kingdom of God is withing us. ❤ . Don't forget that Israel is not only the Nation of God people but is also the name changed of a person (Jacob) all people of God is named ( Israel) Genesis 32:28:30.

Very interesting discussion! The mention of the word 'siddiq' intrigued me. BTW, for your information, the original title holder of as-Siddiiq al-Akbar (الصّدّیق الأكبر) and al-Faaruuq al-Azam (الفاروق الاعظم) was none other than Ali ibn abi Talib. Ali as al-Siddiq al-akbar wa al-Faruq al-Azam from Sunni sources: قال علی ابن ابی طالب أنا عبد الله وأخو رسوله ، وأنا أصالحه الصّدّیق الأكبر و الفاروق الاعظم . أنا عبد الله وأخو رسوله ، وأنا أصالحه الصّدّیق الأكبر و الفاروق الاعظم. لا يسعني إلا أن أقول هذا إلا كاذب ومخترع أكاذيب ، صليت مع رسول الله سبع سنين قبل غيره من الرجال. "I am the servant of God and the brother of his Messenger, and *I am the most righteous one, al siddiq al-akbar and al-faaruuq al-'azam. No one other than I can say this but he is a liar and an inventor of falsehoods, I performed prayer with the Messenger of God seven years before other men." الامام علي (ع) هو الصديق والفاروق , عدد الروايات : 15 (كلهم من رواة أهل السنة!) Imam Ali said that he is as-Siddiq and al-faaruuq , no. of narrations: 15 at least (all Sunni narrators!) Just some narrators: - حدثنا : عبيد الله بن موسى ، حدثنا : العلاء بن المنهال بن عمرو ، عن عباد بن عبد الله سمعت عليا ، يقول : أنا عبد الله وأخو رسوله وأنا الصديق الأكبر ، لا يقولها بعدي الا كاذب مفتر ، صليت قبل الناس بسبع سنين ، وهكذا رواه ابن ماجه عن محمد بن اسماعيل الرازي عن عبيد الله بن موسى العبسي. ابن كثير - البداية والنهاية - كتاب سيرة رسول الله (ص) - فصل في ذكر أول من أسلم الجزء : ( 4 ) - رقم الصفحة : ( 66 ) Narrated to us: Ubaidullah ibn Musa, al-Ala ibn minhal ibn 'Amr from Ibad Ibn Abdullah: I heard Ali say: I am the servant of God and brother of the Messenegr (s) and I am as-Siddiq al-Akbar (The Great Truthful One), none can say this after me except a slanderous liar, and I prayed (the Muslim prayer) seven years prior to the people [i.e. with the Prophet]. So also reported ibn majah from Muhammad ibn Ismail ar-Razi from Ubaidulah ibn musa al-'Absi Ibn Kathiir, al-Bidaayah wan Nihaayah, Book of Sirah, Section on who became Muslim first, part 4, page66 ------ 32084 - حدثنا : عبد الله بن نمير ، عن العلاء بن الصالح ، عن المنهال ، عن عباد بن عبد الله ، قال : سمعت عليا ، يقول : أنا عبد الله وأخو رسوله وأنا الصديق الأكبر ، لا يقولها بعدي الا كذاب مفتر ، ولقد صليت قبل الناس بسبع سنين. ابن أبي شيبة - الكتاب المصنف في الأحاديث والآثار كتاب الفضائل - فضائل علي بن أبي طالب (ر) الجزء : ( 6 ) - رقم الصفحة : ( 368 ) Narrated to us: abdullah ibn Numayr .... from Ibad ibn Abdullah: I heard ali saying: I am the servant of God and brother of the Messenegr (s) and I am as-Siddiq al-Akbar (The Great Truthful One), none can say this after me except a slanderous liar, and I prayed (the Muslim prayer) seven years before (others) [i.e. with the Prophet] Ibn Abi Shaibah, al-Musannaf fi ahaadeeth, Book of Virtues, Virtues of Ali ibn Abi Talib (ra), part 6, page 368 ------ 8338 - أخبرنا : أحمد بن سليمان ، قال : حدثنا : عبيد الله بن موسى ، قال : حدثنا : العلاء بن صالح ، عن المنهال بن عمرو ، عن عباد بن عبد الله ، قال : قال علي : أنا عبد الله ، وأخو رسوله (ص) ، وأنا الصديق الأكبر ، لا يقولها بعدي الا كاذب ، صليت قبل الناس بسبع سنين. النسائي - السنن الكبرى - كتاب الخصائص - ذكر اختلاف الناقلين لهذا الخبر عن شعبة الجزء : ( 7 ) - رقم الصفحة : ( 409 ) Ahmend ibn Salman informed us ......from Minhal ibn Amr from Ibad ibn Abdullah, he said: Ali said: I'm the servant of God and the brother of the Messenger (s), and I'm al-Siddiq al-Akbar (The Great Truthful One), none shall say it except a liar. I prayed seven years prior (to others , the Muslim prayer). an-Nisaa'i, Sunan al-Kubra, Book of Virtues, Part 7 , page 409 ------- 6184 - حدثنا : علي بن اسحاق الوزير الأصبهاني ، حدثنا : إسماعيل بن موسى السدي ، ثنا : عمر بن سعيد ، عن فضيل بن الاستثناء ، عن أبي سخيلة ، عن أبي ذر ، وعن سلمان ، قالا : أخذ رسول الله (ص) بيد علي (ع) ، فقال : إن هذا أول من آمن بي وهو أول من يصافحني يوم القيامة ، وهذا الصديق الأكبر ، وهذا فاروق هذه الأمة يفرق بين الحق والباطل ، وهذا يعسوب المؤمنين والمال يعسوب الظالم. الطبراني - المعجم الكبير - باب السين - أبو سخيلة، كوفي ، عن سلمان (ر) الجزء : ( 6 ) - رقم الصفحة : ( 269 ) Ali ibn Ishaq narrated to us ....from Abu Dhar, from Salman, the two said: The Prophet(s) took the hand of Ali and said: He is the first who beleived me and the first to greet me n the Day of Judgment, he is as-Siddiq al-Akbar (The Great Truthful One) and al-Faruuq al-'Azam (The Grand Discerner) who separates Right from Wrong, the Master of the believers and the foe of the Master of Tyrants. al-Tabrani, al-Mu'jam al-kabiir, Chapter of Siin, Abu Sukhailah Kuufi from Salamn(ra), part : 6, page 269 ------- 10484 - أبو ليلى الغفاري : ذكره أبو أحمد ، وابن مندة ، وغيرهما ، وأخرجوا من طريق إسحاق بن بشر الأسدي أحد المتروكين ، عن خالد بن الحارث ، عن عوف ، عن الحسن ، عن أبي ليلى الغفاري ، قال : سمعت رسول الله (ص) ، يقول : سيكون من بعدي فتنة فإذا كان ذلك ، فألزموا علي بن أبي طالب فانه أول من آمن بي ، وأول من يصافحني يوم القيامة ، وهو الصديق الأكبر ، وهو فاروق هذه الأمة وهو يعسوب المؤمنين . ابن حجر العسقلاني - الإصابة في تمييز الصحابة باب الكنى - حرف اللام - أبو ليلى الغفاري الجزء : ( 7 ) - رقم الصفحة : ( 293 / 294 ) Hadiith # 10484 Abu Laila al-Ghafari: Abu Ahmed mentioned, and Abu Munzah etc. ..from Auf from al-Hasan from Abu Laila al-Ghafar, who said: I heard the Prophet (s) saying: There shall be 'fitna' (DISCORD) after me, so obey Ali ibn Abi Talib for he he indeed is the first of my greeters on the Day of Judgment and he is as-Siddiq al-Akbar (The Great Truthful One) and he is al-Faruuq al-'Azam (The Grand Discerner between Right and Wrong) of this ummah, and the Master of the believers. Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (in) Distinguishing the Companions, Chapter of Al-Kunniyya - Letter Lam - Abu Layla Al-Ghafari Part: (7) - Page No: (293/294) I don't know if we should used the word 'dynasty' here, instead better use the term / expression: 'successor' /'spiritual succession' for Ali ibn Abi Talib and his relationship to the Prophet (s). there are several ahadiith (both, from Sunni sources as well as Shi'a, and many from the former!) that mentions just that, i.e. he being the successor of the Prophet!

Sir,Take my heartiest respect.🧡Your contents and discussion are very informative and interesting.Knowledge-based discussion is quite fantastic.We enjoy your contents.Have a very blessed life.Take my heartiest respect,sir.🧡

10:44 The verb أخلق can mean "I create" or "I make" i. e. something from something else, in Arabic it doesn't exclusively mean to create from nothing which only Allah can do (although usually it's used to express this) and the Quran used this verb in another place to refer to humans making things. In the same verse right after this word prophet Jesus PBUH says "I create/make for you *from clay*..." And (appoint him) an apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "'I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah's leave: And I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, by Allah's leave; and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe

This is gold! May God reward you both and bless you. The amount of knowledge I received from this video is immense!

I really appreciate the work you two are doing. Dr. Ataie brilliantly shows both the beauty but also the holes within the former scriptures and beliefs of the People of the Book and how the Quran fills these holes as it promises to do (Al-Furqan/The Criterion). As a young man who grew up in Texas these talks are vital to us Muslims here and other parts of The West so that we can better understand our own religion within the context of living in the lands of the People of the Book. May Allah bless your endeavors. Ameen.

A very important subject - complicated presented and discussed in details genuinely, having knowledge in it - simplifying , make it straight and beneficial for the people. Simply genius.

*the 2 legends are back at it again!* Thanks brother paul to get Dr.ali ataie again on our platform ❤ Loved the discussion and keep them coming.hope youre well.

SORRY, GUYS, BUT YOU TWO ARE TOO LEARNED FOR MY PUNY BRAIN. REMARKABLE! REMARKABLE! INDEED, LA CRÊME DE LA CRÊME! 100% CORRECT! BRAVO! Continue your great work, and YOU ARE BLESSED! BAFS

600 new subscriptions in last 24hrs. Brilliant.

The knowledge of these two men is mind-boggling... I feel like a kindergarten student hearing them speak. I would have to literally listen to this 4-5 times to absorb 50% of the information.

Very nice discussion. Dr. Ali Ataie's knowledge on the topics is encyclopedic, very interesting.

this Paul is correcting the damage Paul has done 💯

Amazing 2 hours, what a distinguished guest you brought brother Paul. What a treasure of knowledge you brought us with this session. Please, please keep on bringing Dr. Ataei 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻. And what a beautiful conclusion you ended this session with. My extreme gratitude for you both.

Mind blowing

Brother Paul, salaam! Dr. Ali Ataie is a genuine learned man from whom I can learn and understand a lot! I have never seen one like him before. But, I am too old to learn anything, now! However, we need teachers like him for all children! I am sure he has the answers about the Hebrew language that Pr. Noam Chomsky refused to answer. HE IS WORTH MORE THAN HIS WEIGHT IN GOLD! BAFS

The description of False prophets by Dr. ALI as unfulfilled prophecies sounds more like prophet of other religion

The Quran is traditionally written in the eastern Arabian dialect of Classical Arabic. Ironically Muhammad would have spoken the western dialect ofClassical Arabic originating from Mecca, so there is already an element of translation inherent in the Quran. Quran was sent down by mouth to the prophet over 23 years by angel gibrel it was never in a book and this is what the quran mentions “al hayat” (life), 145 times; “al mawt” (death), 145 times “al-dunya” (mundane life), 115 times; “al akhira” (the afterlife), 115 times “malaika” (angels), 88 times; “shayatin” (demons), 88 times “ar rajul (man), 24 times; “al mar’a (woman), 24 times “as salihat (good deeds), 167 times; “as sayya’at” (wrong doings), 167 times “qul” (say), 332 times; “qalu” (said), 332 times “an nas” (people), 50 times; “an nabiya” (prophets), 50 times “al muslimat” (Muslim women), 41 times; “al muslimin” (Muslim men), 41 times Iblis is mentioned 11 times and seek refuge from iblis is mentioned 11 times "yawma-izhin" (That day), 70 times; "qiyama" (Judgment day), 70 times Disbelief 17 times - belief 17 times "dunya" (near), 115 times; "akhira" (far), 115 times "shitaa" (winter), 1 time; "sayf" (summer), 1 time "Isa" (Yahushua), 25 times; "Adam", 25 times al-Fatihah in itself has 7 verses, 3.5 dedicated towards our praise of the Omnipotent, and the next 3.5 dedicated towards our prayers to the Omnipotent.The words “salawat” (prayers) and "aqimis-salah" (establish prayer) are mentioned 5 times in the Quran, the same as the number of mandatory daily prayers.The word "alwan" (colors) is written 7 times, the same as the number of colors of the rainbow.The words "samawat" + "sab" (heavens + seven) are written together 7 times, the same as the number of heavens described in the Quran.There are 365 days in a year. The word "yawm" (day in singular) is written exactly 365 times.There are 12 months in a year. The word "shahr" (month in singular) is written exactly 12 times: [2:185] [2:194] [2:217] [5:2] [5:97] [9:36] [97:3] The Quran says there are seven heavens above us, sometimes described as seven layers (23:17). We are in the lowest of these layers (دنيا), so the Quran is basically saying that there are six layers "above" the one we are in. The phrase ‘seven heavens’ is used in the whole Quran exactly seven times: 2:29, 41:12, 65:12, 67:3, 71:15, 17:44, and 23:86.[citation needed] The words "Sea" and "Land" are used 32 and 13 times respectively in the Quran. 32 plus 13 equals 45, and the two words make up 71.1 and 28.9 percent respectively of those 45. These percentages roughly correspond to what we today know the proportion of the Earth's surface made up of water and land to be. "Human being" is used 65 times: the sum of the number of references to the stages of man's creation is the same: PLEASE SHARE TO EVERYONE YOU WILL GET REWARD en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetry_in_the_Quran

Very interesting show. Good know to research work progressing to write a book - Monogram on James and Paul. His finished book should be great reading on the subject. Recently N T Wright has published a new book 'Paul - A Biography' (SPCK 2018). This gives some insight into what was going on there. It would useful to compare notes with Ali Ataie's findings.

I can just say WOW WOW WOW 🤩

Jazaakom Allah kheiran do you have anything on the jewish concept of sons of God and uzair son of God?

I was glued to the screen of my phone for 2 hours. Great lecture.

1:03 First mistake is to ignore Isa.52:13-15. Many Muslims know this. 8:58 A Passover Seders did not exist in the 1st Century. The reference is from the Psalms. Telling his followers to eat his flesh and drink his blood is affirmed by the Qur'an in Surahs 3, 5 and 61. The guest in denial has no excuse for saying such madness against the truth. Indeed the matter was stated clearly in the time of Moses and The-Qur'an provides additional evidence in The Akkedah. 17:59 , 36:12 The Messiah must atone for the people because of the sin of the Golden Calf which is emphasised so heavily in the Qur'an you have no good excuse for being ignorant and the Akkedah is easy to read in terms of Biblical symbolism. This is told in Daniel 9 and Acts 2. Contrary to what the guest thinks the ordinance of atonement has to conform to the Torah. 18:26 Dense poetry which is highly shambolic, yes that is dear ole R. Singer. 19:31 Isa.53 can refer to a number of different people, a number of people have written of Jeremiah in particular, but the latter verses are certainly hard to apply to anyone else other than Messiah Yeshua. 33:37 Yahoshua and Yeshua do not mean, he is saved, basic Hebrew, these names with the Yah- prefix mean that God is salvation. 35:46 Repeating Jewish heresies. The 10 Devarim in Exodus affirm that the sins of the fathers will be upon the sons. To say that it is otherwise brings much of Deuteronomy into disrepute. The context of not holding others accountable for their children is purely in the context of a regular terrestrial judicial case. Wake up. 37:59 The Qur'an clearly supports the drinking of blood, an Eid for the first and the last. 38:19 Abrogation is disputed. To say that Yeshua abrogated the Torah's dietary laws is contrary to The-Qur'an where Allah states explictly, their food is lawful to you. It is a gross lie. 48:28 Al Razi points out the obvious but if you can't even read the translation properly how will you match the text to the Gospel? 49:57 Paul speaks of Yeshua in Gal.4:14, as Ehrman affirms, and this is what John wrote too. 56:58 Nabi had a relative through the blessed Khadija who was a scholar, also there were Jewish groups around who would have described them as Ha-Notsri so it is not really a miracle. What is amazing is how few Muslims even know this. 1:16:24 + The Qur'an addresses the ministry of Yeshua and only much later the state of things from around the early Dark Ages to the ministry of Nabi. 1:24:36 Allah certainly defines the title, The Messiah, through David and Shlomo Melek so if you don't know what that entails you had better sharpen your pencil and make some notes. 1:25:10 + No, no, no. 0/10 for these slurs. You then try to correct things, 1:33:47 + but blame Paul?! In fact Paul the Pharisee was much like the first three caliphs according to the hadiths but you won't mention that, either of you.

Have been waiting for u to interview Dr Ali for quite sometime s...Tq Paul

"Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils" - Isaiah 53:12 If the Christians believe that Isaiah 53 is talking about Jesus, then they should acknowledge that there are other great people of Jesus's stature who will be given spoil (rewarded) equally by God. Jesus will get only portion of that reward. Jesus is not the only contenders in the arena. As usual the Christians will not agree to that as "they always want to have the cake and eat it too"

One of the most knowledge-dense videos I've every watched. Really appreciate this, thanks a lot BT and Dr Ali. This video answered questions that I had in my subconscious!

Excellent and very informative

Thanks!

Paul, i become obsessed with your channel bro....i am not able to fathom the knowledge discussed here though. Smooth, erudite, informative, loaded discussions....I wait every day for a new discussion in here. Or listen to the previous discussions...i feel my screen time is worthless if i dont visit your channel. May Allah bless you in both the worlds.

A new breadth to the Christian Muslim dialogue. Dr Ataie, you are lovely

Brotha Paul keep them coming. Incredible guests

Amazingly brilliant unknown scholar!! Thanks for bringing him into dawah world!! May God reward you Paul!

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Jazakalah khair my brother!

Paul thanks again for another fab video. Could you kindly point me to where I can find Angela neuwirth's Comment regarding the nasara or nazarenes? I'm intrigued about what she said regarding this.

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 02:21 📚 Isaiah 53 and Its Interpretation 15:00 📖 Context of Isaiah 53 18:01 🧙‍♂️ Symbolism and Poetry in Isaiah 53 20:48 🤔 The Josephine Messiah in Isaiah 53 22:13 🕰️ Tense Usage in Hebrew 22:56 🔍 Exploring the Suffering Servant in Isaiah 53 29:20 📚 Typological Exegesis in Christianity 34:13 💡 Contrasting Old Testament Theology with Christian Beliefs 40:41 📜 Paul vs. James: Theological Differences Made with HARPA AI

A very very interesting discussion! It was definitely one of the most informative and eye opining discussions I have ever heard about many things new to me which I never heard it before. Thank you Paul Williams and Dr. Ali Ataie for giving us such rich content. May Allah reward you for your efforts. And may Allah increase us in knowledge.

Nice T shirt, you must love Jesus but deny his work, his claims. BS

As a layman this is scholarly gold to me, I'm a fan of Dr Ali and have heard other speeches of his before. With each lecture I always try to keep a few nuggets for future reference. Thanks guys!

Jesus is Not prophet ISA (pbuh) Prophet ISA(pbuh) will never be jesus! ALLAHUAKHBAR!!!

I will do a short write up, based on what I remember, on why Isaiah 53 is not talking about Jesus. This is beyond the “it means Israel” argument. I have not seen the video, not sure what the good doctor will talk about. The following is taken from Isaiah 53: He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. 3 He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain. Like one from whom people hide their faces he was despised, and we held him in low esteem. These verses describe someone who was the complete opposite of the Biblical Jesus. Wherever the Biblical Jesus went, crowds followed him, witnessed his amazing miracles and were left awestruck. For example: Large crowds followed Him from Galilee and the Decapolis and Jerusalem and Judea and from beyond the Jordan (Mathew 4:25). “Now when Jesus heard about John, He withdrew from there in a boat to a secluded place by Himself; and when the people heard of this, they followed Him on foot from the cities (Mathew 14:13) “Jesus withdrew to the sea with His disciples; and a great multitude from Galilee followed; and also from Judea and from Jerusalem, and from Idumea, and beyond the Jordan, and the vicinity of Tyre and Sidon, a great number of people heard of all that He was doing and came to Him. for He had healed many, with the result that all those who had afflictions pressed around Him in order to touch Him (Mark 3:7-10). There are dozens of verses that leave little doubt that Jesus was beloved by the crowds who followed him, saw him do wonders, even attempted to merely touch him for healing. He was hardly a man considered unattractive and undesirable. In fact, he was more of a rock star, if I were to use a contemporary phrase to describe him. You can try and bring all sorts of metaphorical musings and abstractions and make it fit the Jesus narrative, but that can be equally done by anyone. Another problem arises: Isaiah claims that “He was despised and rejected by mankind.” If we accept the Christian narrative, that Christianity is a religion based on truth and founded by Jesus himself, then Jesus stands to be the most beloved figure in all of history. If Christianity is true, then a major portion of mankind have received him and not rejected him. Isaiah claims that: He was assigned a grave with the wicked. This is false in Jesus’ case. He was never buried with the wicked. He spent some days in the Garden Tomb alone. There are cute ways that Christians try to force this verse to fit Jesus’ Biblical death and burial, but those are mostly wishful thinking. Did Jesus ever speak about Isaiah 53? According to my knowledge, Jesus never quoted Isaiah 53. If I am wrong on this, I am open to be corrected. It is strange because if he’s God, or even literate, he could have easily understood his role within the context of Isaiah 53 and quoted the verse to remind people that he is the suffering servant. This is problematic. A central prophesy in the Jewish Bible supposedly about Jesus and Jesus is unaware of it or does not have the mental and intellectual competence to use it to his own advantage. Isaiah 53 claims: Yet it was the LORD’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer. Which lord? Was this referring to the Father or the Son? If it’s the Father, then this verse differentiates between God and the suffering servant and thus cannot refer to Jesus. If it’s the Son’s will, then it’s false because Jesus asked for “this cup” to be taken from him. He also protested on the cross as to why he was forsaken. In any case, Isaiah 53 clearly differentiates between the Lord’s will and the entity in question. Since Christians believe Jesus to be co-equal with the Father, this verse makes little sense if God was “crushed” by the will of God yet the same God protested to being crushed by his own will. Isaiah 53 states: he will see his offspring and prolong his days. As we all know that Jesus did not leave any offspring. Isaiah 52 should be read before reading Isaiah 53. There we read the following: his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any human being and his form marred beyond human likeness- 15 so he will sprinkle many nations,[d] and kings will shut their mouths because of him. For what they were not told, they will see, and what they have not heard, they will understand. Again this entity in questions is described as ghastly and ugly. Christians interpret this to mean that Jesus was beaten and was bloody. Interesting how such details are provided by the author of Isaiah, yet Jesus’ virgin birth, raising of the dead, innumerable other miracles are inexplicably left out. That would have helped all of us identity who Isaiah is talking about. Isaiah 53, however, makes it clear that being hideous and despised is an intrinsic character of this entity and not the result of being beaten and tormented: “He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.” Again problematic because this does not fit Jesus an iota. Isaiah 52 talks about the power and influence the entity in question will have such that “kings will shut their mouths because of him.” What king of the world was even aware of Jesus’ existence let alone fearing Jesus? If the claim is that Jesus' doctrine and Gospel has overtaken the world, well that fails. Islam is overtaking it and fast.

Alhamdulillah for Islam

Mashallah 2 well read intellectuals sharing their knowledge. Thank you.

Lot of things are coming to light because of internet. And I have a lot of unlearning to do.

Wow what a tour de force - two hours and I could not switch it of. You are the man Paul! What can I say about Dr Ali Ataie - a human encyclopaedia, a true force to reckon with. He is polite, articulate, clear and extremely knowledgeable.

Man I remember when he killed David wood in a debate years ago

mashallah! fantastic podcast!

Oh my God... Muslims should have this two hours of speech in their curriculum as a part of short history analysis about true message of Jesus... Extremely knowledge.. May Allah bless you..

What an amazing discussion !!!! Thankyou Mr. Williams to bring such outstanding content and thanks to Dr Ataie for such in-depth peak into Christianity. Amazing!!! Amazing!!! Your channel is now my first preference on RU-vid. May Allah subhana-wa-taalla bring the Light of Islam to your heart and soul.

Tovia Singer also has his own INTERPRETATION without any VINDICATION from our SUPERNATURAL God....The Word of the Lord never came to Dr so and so or a theologian...IT ALWAYS COME TO GOD'S PROPHET... 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Amos 3:7

Mashallah, may Allah guide you Paul

Stupendous! My Christian relatives ought to watch this… though unfortunately people take it personally if you cast doubt on their beliefs…. Btw didn’t the movie “The Last Temptation of Christ” even depict Paul or the two differing factions? All so interesting