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Dr. Frank Turek - Christians are Hypocrites! 

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Dr. Frank Turek discusses the Moral Argument For Christianity
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@danielfoy1137
@danielfoy1137 Год назад
Wow. I tear up at the end. Beautiful sermon. Jesus is full of truth and grace. We all are hypocrites and We all need a savior. Thank you Jesus for your sacrificial love. What a great reminder of the gospel. Thank you 🙏🏿💯
@2l84me8
@2l84me8 4 месяца назад
Who made you fallen hypocrites again? Oh right. The very jesus character you’re praising mindlessly.
@fuckamericanidiot
@fuckamericanidiot Месяц назад
​@@2l84me8 So hateful. What happened to you?
@2l84me8
@2l84me8 Месяц назад
@@fuckamericanidiot What was so hateful? Did this god not make humans “broken” on purpose so that he can command them to be well?
@charleshenderson913
@charleshenderson913 Месяц назад
Jesus is the only way to salvation. You can believe and live forever or disbelieve and reject salvation for yourself. You choose that you are unwilling to receive eternal life, then I guess you're FREE to reject life and choose death.
@2l84me8
@2l84me8 Месяц назад
@@charleshenderson913 Not being convinced of religious claims from the Bronze Age is not a choice, nor does it mean you desire punishment for all eternity. Enough with the ignorant gaslighting tactics already.
@manielojeanpierre6370
@manielojeanpierre6370 Месяц назад
For all those thats saying you’ll only believe God or Jesus unless you him, I say, even if he showed up in front of you and doing miracles in front of your face you will still not believe. It is ok to admit the truth.
@disrupt94
@disrupt94 15 дней назад
This is a classic tactic of those who can't present credible evidence but still want to claim that they are right. The truth is demonstrable, so go ahead and demonstrate.
@sipo70
@sipo70 5 дней назад
You’re right. Thomas didn’t till he stuck his fingers on His wounds. Aaron (Moses’ brother) who was top priest during Exodus lost his control when Moses was getting his instructions up in the mountain for 40 days. Aaron himself help get the gold and make that stupid golden calf. I’m talking about Moses brother here. So even Aaron messed up after all that what God did right in front of him and still made an idol. He knew better. So we are no better than the people who saw Gods work and miracles that won’t believe. So yes, you’re so right. It’s like they don’t want to look into it because they know there are consequences to bad lifestyle behavior if they decide to acknowledge it.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
PRAISE JESUS CHRIST!
@hitman5782
@hitman5782 Год назад
Why? For giving aids and ebola to billions of helpless starving children?
@neo-YoutubeStoleMyHandle
@neo-YoutubeStoleMyHandle Месяц назад
Time for a new government that serves The People!
@micohenca
@micohenca 2 года назад
Thank you Dr. Turek for your discussion on morality. I was blessed to attend this particular discussion. Thanks for making this happen Dr. Chip Bennett.
@Djr67
@Djr67 Год назад
You ain't too bright are you buddy.
@Demopans5990
@Demopans5990 Год назад
Thank you Muhammad for your revelation of Allah's will. I was blessed to have heard it with my heart
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
@@Demopans5990 Repent and turn to Jesus Christ he is the way, the truth, and the Life. Allah is false. In the Koran, it says in Sura 5 verse 67 to 69," O people of the book, you have no ground to stand on (No argument) until you follow the Torah and the Gospel and what has been revealed to you by your Lord." if the Koran is saying that the Gospel and Torah is from God then that means the Koran is false because the bible never mentions the Koran. Allahs word can never be changed also so if he's saying that the Bible is a revelation from him then it cannot be corrupted. Jesus' name in the koran is al-Masih meaning the Messiah. Jesus is also sinless in the koran and Muhammed was sinful.
@chrish7336
@chrish7336 10 месяцев назад
@@Demopans5990 Why thank Muhammad, is he not bowing to God asking for mercy for leading people astray?
@dgaming9791
@dgaming9791 7 месяцев назад
​@@Demopans5990Muhammed was a pedophile and a rapist. Why thank him?
@dshousegenetix47
@dshousegenetix47 9 месяцев назад
Someone who tells truth through common sense?Good job!
@jjevans1693
@jjevans1693 9 месяцев назад
You're so brainwashed
@majm4606
@majm4606 7 месяцев назад
The only way to show you know truth is by evidence. Turek's arguments here all commit well-known logical errors (and bad logic isn't evidence). For example the Moral argument is two baseless claims: that (A) objective moral values exist and (B) if they do, they're best explained by a god. No evidence of those claims is ever presented (in fact when theists try, _usually_ they're appealing to the feelings/opinions/tastes of people. But it's those things -- feelings, opinions, and tastes -- _that make something subjective!_ )
@Theloneyat
@Theloneyat 7 месяцев назад
@@majm4606 Hold on why do yo as an atheist, believe in morality, and morality doesn't have any scientific evidence, and yet you believe that morals exist
@Theloneyat
@Theloneyat 7 месяцев назад
@@majm4606 How can morality be subjective ? It's nonsensical to believe that. Morality is objective because we have a moral law giver. That's not a logical fallacy at all.
@majm4606
@majm4606 7 месяцев назад
@@Theloneyat 1. Morality is defined as, _"principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behavior."_ So because I think it's wrong to behead apostates and a particular Muslim disagrees, that demonstrates subjective moral values exist. 2. By contrast you haven't demonstrated a single objective moral value. Instead you repeated the same exact logical fallacy that Turek just made twice: you said _without evidence_ that "we have a moral lawgiver"). 3. We have evidence of everything we actually know. It sounds like you're confusing (A) real things we say exist vs. (B) abstract things which are only ideas (and so if we say they exist, we're only saying _they exist as ideas in a mind, and that's it._ )
@eugeneduplessis7541
@eugeneduplessis7541 Месяц назад
Dr. Frank I was asked this in class today..... If the Garden of Eden was only good and perfect how did the serpent get in ? Im stuck with for an answer..
@jonathanfredericks9937
@jonathanfredericks9937 7 дней назад
The devil was always there from the start
@Michael_H_Nielsen
@Michael_H_Nielsen 8 месяцев назад
really good :)
@get2it7
@get2it7 7 месяцев назад
Man this guy is really doing something for the Kingdom of Jesus
@Darko.Damjanovic
@Darko.Damjanovic 4 месяца назад
"Kingdom of Jesus" is deep delusion.
@hasone1848
@hasone1848 4 месяца назад
Frank really is doing something for the Kingdom of Jesus. He is really show how bad of an argument and how little evidence Christians really have for the god they believe in. I feel Frank has done a ton to move the younger generation away from religion and Christianity.
@leehensley5019
@leehensley5019 4 месяца назад
A faith based "objective" standard???? Please.... All Turek has done is murdered the meaning of objective. What is the difference between your individual personal faith and your individual personal opinion? Not a thing, nada, zip. At the end of the day, your individual personal choice of faith is exercising your individual personal opinion. Are you surprised at the internal contradiction, the hypocrisy? Why? Isn't that what Turek opened his little talk with? Then why are you surprised that is exactly what he served up with his faith based "objective" standard?
@HansZarkovPhD
@HansZarkovPhD 4 месяца назад
The kingdom is steadily shrinking. We have gone for mamy godx, to one god, and hopefully to no god, this is the correct progression.
@2l84me8
@2l84me8 4 месяца назад
Telling lies?
@danielfrimpong6412
@danielfrimpong6412 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for this wonderful video. I had nothing to do today , and this video came out. I think God wanted me to Watch it. All my asnwer have been answered. Keep Going. Amen❤😢
@joelercoaster
@joelercoaster 6 часов назад
Very well done.
@davedavid2914
@davedavid2914 9 месяцев назад
Love you Frank God bless you
@NomadicDevineEast1999
@NomadicDevineEast1999 11 месяцев назад
I love this. 😊
@babyboomer9560
@babyboomer9560 10 месяцев назад
A little C.S.Lewis Mere Christianity explains all this
@chriscox4936
@chriscox4936 7 месяцев назад
C.S. Lewis is why I became a non believer.
@neo-YoutubeStoleMyHandle
@neo-YoutubeStoleMyHandle Месяц назад
That's what cops tell you..."Well, we were just following orders." lolol
@adebayooluwatosinwale6709
@adebayooluwatosinwale6709 11 месяцев назад
U simply best teaching nd improved my understanding in bilblical Believe
@calummacritchie7840
@calummacritchie7840 2 года назад
Thank you Frank. I wish friends I had knew about this.
@jjevans1693
@jjevans1693 9 месяцев назад
Frank is a fraud
@marceloribeirosimoes8959
@marceloribeirosimoes8959 2 месяца назад
Religion is not what The Creator expects us to be part of.
@Do-mj1lz
@Do-mj1lz Год назад
Sorry the link below that will take you to the short on RU-vid
@inspiration28
@inspiration28 5 месяцев назад
Wow this is profound wisdom and insights being shared 18:29
@Brad90977
@Brad90977 10 месяцев назад
19:37 to 20:33....What a great point. Thank you!
@buteur9418
@buteur9418 9 месяцев назад
It helped me a lot , that’s so true
@genegroover3721
@genegroover3721 13 дней назад
Brilliant.
@beingpath
@beingpath 3 месяца назад
Kristi Burke has a channel to help the confused. Highly recommend.
@Do-mj1lz
@Do-mj1lz Год назад
If this doesn't give an example of innate goodness and morality that is by design put into us by God I don't know what does. This can't be taught at this age it is in us because someone designed us to be loving in this way. God! If you are hurt by something in life and are mad at God talk to him he can't make it right if you don't give him the chance! I challenge all of you atheists. There is pain at the heart of your disregard for HIM. But he loves you just the same!
@snatchsnatcher9084
@snatchsnatcher9084 11 месяцев назад
Christian cultists type some dumb shit frequently, but you win today.
@ConservativeHippie001
@ConservativeHippie001 7 месяцев назад
Love this guy ❤
@SpiritofOurLord
@SpiritofOurLord 9 месяцев назад
Very good video!
@robertmcclintock8701
@robertmcclintock8701 12 дней назад
( `ー´) This is the artistic proof that the universe was created. When you paint a shadow its the opposite color of the object that made the shadow. Nobody knew what the opposite color of white is so the artists avoided painting white on white. The opposite color of white is baby blue and baby pink. The first artist to figure it out was Norman Rockwell. I was the second artist to figure it out. I saw it in the corner of a white room. The lighting was perfect to see it.
@hamster4618
@hamster4618 2 года назад
But how do we know what is Gods opinion? How did Martin Luther get it so wrong?
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
If a band is performing a song from your favorite band and they are doing a good job. You aren’t going to blame your favorite artist. You are going to blame the band that is representing you’re favorite artist by playing that song. So it’s the same as Martin Luther and God don’t blame Christians because we are all hypocrites and don’t live up to Christ Standard you have to follow Christ.
@hamster4618
@hamster4618 Год назад
@@dannyreborn like I said, how do you know what’s “God’s opinion”. We are not actually talking about hearing something directly from “God” himself, now are we? We are reading stories about stories. So how to know what’s the truth. And the problem is: you believe one thing, Martin Luther the next, Pope Urban VI something else. So not exactly comparable to your story about a band we can actually hear and it coverband. However, you did touch on an analogy there: like with a band and it’s cover songs, different people will like different versions.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
You don’t actually regard cover bands to the highest standard as your favorite artist. I meant to say if they play the song bad and they do a bad representation. You’re not going to blame you’re favorite band. Also, that is Roman Catholicism and I don’t believe in that. The pope does not actually say or do what the Bible says as far as what I’ve seen or any priest. They operate off of hierarchy and nowhere is that found in the Bible to run a church. And we know Gods opinion because to create a highly designed universe you need a person who is intelligent and can make personable decisions. If you have a immaterial, personable, space less, timeless, being then he would obviously want to communicate with his creation. Therefore alligns best with his nature then that’s how we know his opinion. Robert jastrow a very famous cosmologist (an agnostic ) who doesn’t even believe in God said that scientifically the Bible aligns with scientific creation. Then we know Gods opinion through his word.
@hamster4618
@hamster4618 Год назад
@@dannyreborn good to know you are one of very few people who has the correct interpretation of “Gods word”. Obviously, I have no idea how, as the word salad was hardly an answer. “Therefore aligns best with his nature”? What’s that supposed to mean? Just to be sure, you state you have a better understanding of what “God” wants, than for example the popes (church leaders) and people like Martin Luther, one of the founders of Protestantism? So if they’ve got it wrong, what is correct? Do you hear voices?
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
@@hamster4618 no we know Gods opinion through scripture. In John it says,”In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word was God. He was God in the beginning. So through his word we know his opinion. I don’t know every action Martin Luther took but if it aligns with Gods word and his commandments. Then that’s how we know Gods opinion. Because God will not contradict himself if he is all powerful.
@CR-yd4qe
@CR-yd4qe 7 месяцев назад
The one thing you don’t get from your god is morality 🐹
@rickallen9167
@rickallen9167 5 месяцев назад
The inference is not only that morality provides the existence of God, but that morality is despatched to us by God alone. If you follow that logic then the desire or choice to hate, kill, murder and rape is in that consignment too. Why does it have to be that way? Because God is omnipotent, and that means anything is possible. That can mean a moral person acts only by way of divine instruction, regardless of his absence or unrevealed state to some of us. Morality isn't a divine operating traders contract...it is simply an Idea that you treat others as you would like to be treated yourself.
@markmerry1471
@markmerry1471 10 месяцев назад
And we are right
@valarieniessner2536
@valarieniessner2536 Год назад
Praise GOD for those like Frank Turek. As GOD says, "the fool says there is NO God." It truly shows, that anyone that believes, we did not have a creator, who made us who we are and created all things, is very blind. Anyone who turns away from someone who needs help if being hurt or murdered, you are definitley not of God. Thats not Opinion, thats FACT!...AND theres mans opinions and then theres GODs Holy Word...The wise choose the latter...if a child takes a candy bar from the store, do you ignor your child or tell them it's wrong? Most would say it's stealing....and it is, according to who? GOD, "THOU SHALT NOT STEAL" ..when you take your last breath, YOU WILL stand before Almight GOD...why would anyone forfiet their soul for this world? I never saw a UHAUL behind a hearst. You will leave this world the same way you came in, Naked and destitute. Your Soul will live on, either in Glory with Christ or in Hell which is eternal seperation from GOD. "BIBLE = BASIC INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING EARTH"...It tells you "where you came from", "how to live" and "where your going when you die".. when I die, if the Bible isn't true, what have I lost? NOTHING...but if it is true (which it is) what have I lost? EVERYTHING, MY SOUL...My soul means to much to me, so I'll take my chances. God help those that don't have any hope. JESUS IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH & THE LIFE. JOHN 14:6
@valariegailniessnermissval8329
@Brenton Carter ok
@bn444
@bn444 Год назад
Cosmological Argument: Fails to actually reach the conclusion that a god exists, and relies on logic, which is derived from our local reality; therefore, using it to make inferences about pre-reality doesn't make sense. Teleological: Defines everything as designed, making it impossible to distinguish between design and non-designed. To conclude there's a designer is equivalent to saying there is no designer. Also, there's just no evidence backing the claim that nature or the cosmos or reality as a whole is designed. Moral: Morality, though held as important to humanity, is really rather vague. But if we're just referring to determining what actions we should or should not be allowed to do, we can objectively determine that via proper reasoning. To present a being (deity) as the cause of existence, capable of bending reality to its will, is to undermine any objective basis for morality; as morality (and logic as a whole) would just be the whim of said deity. But even setting aside proper reasoning, there are obvious, 'common sense' moral principles that are just necessary for any social creature. If everyone is a rampaging lunatic, then there wouldn't be anyone left to ponder morality in the first place: the moral version of the sentient puddle analogy.
@GODSMESSAGES123
@GODSMESSAGES123 Год назад
You said nothing is designed do you realize the endless possibilities of how if the world was just a little different in any way we could all be dead Ex metors , if air was toxic to us the amount of conscience it would have to be its im the billions its not luck that you are here right now God made you
@bn444
@bn444 Год назад
@@GODSMESSAGES123 The world could easily be different and support life. Not only can it be different, it has been. The air has been toxic to a lot of current life. Arguably, Earth isn't even as optimal as it could be. Honestly, why would an all powerful, all knowing being even put us on a planet at all?
@GODSMESSAGES123
@GODSMESSAGES123 Год назад
@@bn444 The world could be different IN a million ways and not support life im not mad at the way he chose because we do have LIFE
@GODSMESSAGES123
@GODSMESSAGES123 Год назад
@@bn444 Earth is not supposed to be optimal its out testing place on if we get to the true optimal place heaven
@bn444
@bn444 Год назад
@@GODSMESSAGES123 Then what's the point of your original comment?
@JiraiyaSama86
@JiraiyaSama86 11 месяцев назад
I'm not sure if this describes it accurately. But are any of us when taking a shower more capable of fully cleaning ourselves when we do it ourselves as compared to when we have someone else with us?
@pwill4real855
@pwill4real855 Год назад
Can anyone answer-- there is no shadow without light. But Isn't shadow just darkness... and you cant have light without darkness. Trying to wrap my mind around this. Light has no meaning if there is no darkness.
@arpitapps5327
@arpitapps5327 Год назад
Light is not created... Space is created where God has limited His Light... Darkness is limited but Light is infinite... We see that Light is limited because we live in the same space where God has limited His Light... Therefore, in our point of view we feel that darkness is what it is and Light is created... God created The Heaven or in our word The Space... And in The Space He limited His Light which resulted in darkness... But in out space where God is... it's full of Light 😂 I know I am not able to explain properly because I am a limited human being
@zebo6162
@zebo6162 10 месяцев назад
We only categorize a lack of, or negation of, something when the actual thing we’re lacking or negating exists. If we never experienced the heat summer we wouldn’t know that the cold of winter exists. Without the dark of night we would have no conception of the light of daytime.
@chrish7336
@chrish7336 10 месяцев назад
@@arpitapps5327 The Connection I see that Frank was making is that while a shadow proves the light it cannot produce light. On the other hand, light can produce a shadow.
@patrickegan5669
@patrickegan5669 Год назад
It seems like many of these comments were written by one person.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
Probably
@JackgarPrime
@JackgarPrime Год назад
Well this video doesn't have many views. And there are sooooo many bad arguments in the video that its easy to make posts about each one.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
@@JackgarPrime which ones are bad agreements that’s a very broad statement to make. All his other videos have a lot of views and people love it. What’s your point exactly ? Just seems biased.
@JackgarPrime
@JackgarPrime Год назад
@@dannyreborn Videos having a lot of views and likes doesn't necessarily mean they're showing good arguments. A lot of those could be going in already agreeing with what's in the video and just happy to get their beliefs affirmed. It's been over a month since I saw this video so I don't remember exactly what he said here, so why don't you pick an argument he made, you can timestamp it if you want to make sure we get his exact words, and I can tell you what I think of it specifically?
@zebo6162
@zebo6162 10 месяцев назад
@@JackgarPrimeDon’t argue in the RU-vid comments section; it’s a waste of time. Go talk to people in real life for an actually meaningful dialogue.
@user-pu4tr2mo4q
@user-pu4tr2mo4q 9 месяцев назад
Morality is the result of human behaviour evolving over time when people come together to live in groups and tribes. Very simply good behaviour that benefits the group is rewarded. Bad behaviour disrupt group cohesion is punished. For god sake it’s as simple and as logical as that. You don’t need a god send genius to interprete that on behalf of an MIA omnipotent being.
@gerdgrubel902
@gerdgrubel902 8 месяцев назад
It´s weird, because Jesus behaviour is considered to be "good", but yet he was killed by the "group". And not only him...millions of people behaved "good" and yet were punished by "the "Group"...In fact....in todays world behaving "good" is punished equally, if not worse, than behaving "bad". Your argument is one dimensional.
@realtalkwithphil
@realtalkwithphil 7 месяцев назад
Don’t call for “God’s sake” if your world view doesn’t acknowledge that God gives the standards for morality.
@majm4606
@majm4606 7 месяцев назад
​@@realtalkwithphil Are you distracting off topic (to fixate on common sayings like "god's sake") because you agree with all the other points the others were making? If you don't agree, do you find it weird you didn't address _the main points they were actually making?_ After all, when someone is wrong you can address their post and explain why they're wrong.
@realtalkwithphil
@realtalkwithphil 7 месяцев назад
@@majm4606 If I’m not interested in addressing the other points or choose to address only one, it doesn’t make me half right. It’s my choice to answer what i want to answer. I’d be intellectually dishonest to think that i have the answers to every single question.
@majm4606
@majm4606 7 месяцев назад
@@realtalkwithphil Well you're the one acting like they're right by ignoring the main points and distracting to something irrelevant. Worse, your point isn't even good because (for example) nobody who says "god damn" seriously thinks they're asking an actual god to damn something when they say that. It's just a saying. The most common reason people distract off topic is when they want to simply _ignore what other other side said,_ especially when when they made good points you can't address. After all, if you focus on an irrelevant detail you don't have to actually face the truth of what they're saying, right? But the only reason to act like that is if they're right and you're trying to protect a deeply-held belief that's wrong.
@bisbeekid
@bisbeekid 9 месяцев назад
Who designed the designer?
@janetlauck1042
@janetlauck1042 9 месяцев назад
No one. He was and always is.
@bisbeekid
@bisbeekid 9 месяцев назад
@@janetlauck1042 So the designer (He) has a masculine gender? How interesting. "Whatever we cannot easily understand we call God; this saves much wear and tear on the brain tissues." Edward Abby
@TheNatedouble8
@TheNatedouble8 2 месяца назад
That's like asking when did eternity start?
@bisbeekid
@bisbeekid 2 месяца назад
@@TheNatedouble8 Actually, no. There's a clear answer to the eternity question if one believes in the hypothesis. Who designed the designer is entirely another question.
@mvk-delta5423
@mvk-delta5423 2 месяца назад
@@bisbeekid you’re assuming everything needs to be designed. Also the only things that do need design are material things. If something is immaterial it cannot be designed. We Christian’s say the universe needs designer because the universe is not eternal & began to exist based off the evidence therefore it needs a designer since it began to exist. We also know that there must be something that eternally exists because if something cannot come from nothing, and something does exist, then there must’ve always been a something. Otherwise you’d have to believe that out the blue something can just appear from nothing.
@Cellidor
@Cellidor Год назад
"If God doesn't exist, then right and wrong are just matters of opinion!" ...Yes, and? So...God doesn't exist then, by his own words, because that's... literally the world we live in. Thanks for describing reality I guess, Frank?
@joeturner9219
@joeturner9219 9 месяцев назад
That's your own personal opinion
@Cellidor
@Cellidor 9 месяцев назад
@@joeturner9219 Every opinion I have, is my own personal opinion, yes.
@indigopapi8667
@indigopapi8667 2 месяца назад
The issue is that atheists do not live out their “beliefs”. A true atheist is an anarchist. Everything is meaningless and relative so they shouldn’t obey any laws or boundaries of any kind. But many still do… that’s the issue. Logically inconsistent and intellectually dishonest. And if one atheist chooses to live a “good” life (even tho they can’t define good) they can’t object to another person, atheist or not, for doing “evil”.
@2l84me8
@2l84me8 Год назад
Why on earth should I care about the subjective opinion of an unproven god over my own thoughts and sense of empathy? I’m sorry you aren’t able to think for yourself without imagining a god character pointing at something and condescendingly stating “this good!” Or “this bad!”. This doesn’t demonstrate any gods exists at all, let alone the specific branch of christain monotheism. You’ve given no rational justification for your god belief, let alone why we should care what he/she/it has to say regarding a matter. If it were that important, this god wouldn’t rely on flawed and vague text to get a point across.
@hawkgeoff
@hawkgeoff Год назад
Where does your ability to think, your consciousness, come from? Science has given "no rational justification for your" ability to think for yourself... You've given no "rational justification" for you belief either.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
@@hawkgeoff facts
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
frank turek has given many rational justifications for his beliefs in this video and others if you actually watch him. Second you’re just saying things without any actual evidence behind you’re claims.
@WhiteScorpio2
@WhiteScorpio2 Год назад
@@hawkgeoff "Where does your ability to think, your consciousness, come from?" From my brain, obviously.
@lashonnmurray2762
@lashonnmurray2762 9 месяцев назад
You don't need anyone's opinion that the most high exist. Your existence is the only proof that you need. People search for proof of the most high when you can just go look in the mirror.
@fotoman777
@fotoman777 7 месяцев назад
The fatal flaw in Turek's argument is that there is nothing "objectively moral" about God. The notion that God is the ultimate "good" is just a subjective human definition of what we would like or hope God to be, if he existed. Turek says morality is the "best" argument for the existence of God, but it is no argument at all. We don't get our sense of moral right and wrong from God. If we did, we would still believe slavery was perfectly fine.
@araenasanchez
@araenasanchez 7 месяцев назад
Some people do believe slavery is perfectly fine. There are more slaves today than ever before.
@fotoman777
@fotoman777 7 месяцев назад
@@araenasanchez That is indeed true. But most of western culture has moved beyond it due to some moral instinct against it that cannot be attributed to God.
@oldol12
@oldol12 6 месяцев назад
If you think modern day slavery doesn't exist, you live under a rock. Or look at the biographies of these old Hollywood child stars. (Shirley Temple, Michael Jackson). Tell me, this was not a form of slavery. But yeah, those milk cows which get violently seperated from their children, are happy, LOL.
@thecircusfreak5364
@thecircusfreak5364 4 месяца назад
Is it subjective? Kind of funny how the things we describe as ‘good’ tend to lead to greater survivability for the whole of humanity. It’s as if things that are good lead to life that flourishes. When you align with the design of reality, things tend to be better for you and those around you. That’s not really debatable and refutes that it’s just ‘wishful thinking’.
@observer8477
@observer8477 8 месяцев назад
so true but some disbelievers of christ and many fellow muslims also down here will always say what a mumbo jumbo....
@pelgrim8640
@pelgrim8640 Год назад
Does Turek actually know the difference between claim and evidence?
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
He has a PhD and a doctorate degree and has written many books… I’m not trying to be rude but i think he spent over 8 years in a top university with scholars I think he knows the difference between claim and evidence and also he has provided evidence and his other videos provide evidence so don’t judge a book by it’s cover. God bless you repent from your sins and Turn to Christ.
@pelgrim8640
@pelgrim8640 Год назад
@@dannyreborn Still, he keeps mixing up claims with evidence. What evidence did he present? You need to demonstrate that christianity is real first, and then you need to explain why you condone slavery, genocide, rape, torture and collective infinite punishment for finite individual crimes, as the bible does.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
@@pelgrim8640 Exodus 21:16 “whoever seals a man and sells him and anyone found in possession of him shall be put to death.” The people who fought to abolish slavery were mostly Christian and also when people were sacrificing and burning new born babies to a God they made up. Isnt right either so there’s actually context behind what you’re talking about. Before you make a claim; do research and know the context. Instead of just bandwagoning what everyone else says. Also he provided a lot of evidence. That’s why he’s a best selling author and people watch him. Also he didn’t mix up claim and evidence you’re just disagreeing because you don’t like Christianity.
@pelgrim8640
@pelgrim8640 Год назад
@@dannyreborn Please name one single piece of evidence that Turek has provided? That he is a bestseller is no argument whatsoever, because other religions have their bestsellers too. Charles Darwin was also a bestseller. Before you make a claim; do research and know the context.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
@@pelgrim8640 you’re saying he got claim and evidence wrong. I’m saying he’s not and very knowledgeable and he’s very credible him being a best selling author. You’re disagreeing with that but I’m going to go with the guy that has more credibility. God bless you have a good rest of your day.
@grrsss8335
@grrsss8335 Год назад
3:25 it mentions the moral argument. there is no evidence to show that morals come from a singular source. none. All the evidence shows that morality is only ever derived from what a person values and is therefore derived from subjectivity.
@JT-ht6fk
@JT-ht6fk Год назад
Great. I’ll come take your stuff because those are my morals.
@arkcritic6080
@arkcritic6080 Год назад
@@JT-ht6fk Doesn't stop him from calling the cops because that's the law.
@adrianrojas8771
@adrianrojas8771 Год назад
@@arkcritic6080 Yeah laws that benefit certain individuals because law is subjective as well
@arkcritic6080
@arkcritic6080 Год назад
@@adrianrojas8771 I don't know where you're from but there's laws against theft where I am.
@adrianrojas8771
@adrianrojas8771 Год назад
@@arkcritic6080 where im from is irrelevant, if youre defending subjective morals that means the every law is basically made to benefit certain people
@rayleeseacrest6992
@rayleeseacrest6992 9 месяцев назад
@user-gr3oo5ux9x
@user-gr3oo5ux9x 27 дней назад
Also, there were 15-20 other saviour gods , the story, identical to that of Jesus Christ
@bibleburner8426
@bibleburner8426 9 месяцев назад
I love how people who pretend to eat the flesh and drink the blood of a human sacrifice find themselves in a position to claim moral high ground. It would be laughable if it wasn't so repulsive.
@kactusJacko
@kactusJacko 9 месяцев назад
😂😂😂
@CoryWillis
@CoryWillis 8 месяцев назад
We don't claim a moral high ground. We claim a moral standard that no one can reach. Romans 3:23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"
@bibleburner8426
@bibleburner8426 8 месяцев назад
@@CoryWillis A moral standard? What is your moral standard?
@CoryWillis
@CoryWillis 8 месяцев назад
An objective moral standard that includes good and evil. Without a lawgiver there is no law. Without someone to create a moral code there would be no way to justify good vs evil. I have a God that is truth, justice, mercy, patience, forgiveness, and grace in His nature.@@bibleburner8426
@CoryWillis
@CoryWillis 8 месяцев назад
And He isn't just my God but the God almighty that created you, your family, and every thing in existence@@bibleburner8426
@grrsss8335
@grrsss8335 Год назад
The moral argument for god fails because it only asserts that morals come from a god. And even if there was a god, the morality of that god would be nothing more than that god's opinion.
@TheAndnor
@TheAndnor Год назад
I think franks usual response to that is that good comes from gods nature, not gods opinion. God is unable to have opinions and unable to change what is good. So morality can exist without god, because god does not decide what is good.
@pelgrim8640
@pelgrim8640 Год назад
@@TheAndnor An other way to put it: if God has a nature which he can't change then he is limited by that nature, so there is a force beyond God that limits God. What would that force be?
@TheAndnor
@TheAndnor Год назад
@@pelgrim8640 yes, exactly.
@tarp-grommet
@tarp-grommet Месяц назад
- The cosmological and teleological arguments are word games. There's no "there" there. - The moral argument is the Christians claiming ownership of something that does not belong to them. All cultures have criminal & civil law and the golden rule. The Christians did not invent criminal and civil law; it comes to us from Mesopotamia, Greece and Rome. - The claim that a supernatural being wrote something on your heart is meaningless because there's no way to test it. - The core mission of all spiritual teaching is to help people understand their capacity for love and compassion, and to make it a major theme in their lives. - Multiple spiritual traditions help people find the peace and happiness that comes with this understanding. Some people call it living in the light. - If you are claiming they will be punished for eternity if they do not join your particular religion then you are living in darkness.
@tdktube
@tdktube 7 месяцев назад
This is vile. Morality should not require fear. Only His threat of punishment holds you in line? I feel compassion without it.
@DomskiOKKK
@DomskiOKKK 4 месяца назад
Did you watch the video at all?😂
@kregorovillupo3625
@kregorovillupo3625 4 месяца назад
@@DomskiOKKK I think yes. And you? Frank says there's no moral without god, but tell me: is there any non-circular reason for why you ought to follow god's dictated morals? And what happens if you don't? And what happens if god's morals is to kill inonocents?
@DomskiOKKK
@DomskiOKKK 4 месяца назад
@@kregorovillupo3625are you serious right now?😂 Would you go out right now and kill someone because they you mad? Is that moral? You atheist are wild man.😂
@letstrytouserealscienceoka3564
The moral argument is incredibly weak, I do not know why Frank thinks is is one of the very best. Oh wait, yes I do, it is because all arguments for the existence of "God" are bunk. The moral argument hinges on the premise that you can't have "objective morals", "absolute morals", or "universal morals" if Frank's "God" doesn't objectively exist. The problem is that no one has ever shown that any of those types of morals exist, so the foundational premise, and therefore the entire argument ,fails. It also suffers from the universal problem of "who is this god person anyway?" My personal, subjective morals are far better than those of the Christian gods. I see no reason to lower my standards to their level.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
Incorrect, sorry but even Richard Dawkins a very famous athiest. Admits the fine tuning of the universe is one of the best arguments for the existence for God.
@letstrytouserealscienceoka3564
@@dannyreborn That doesn't mean that he thinks it is either good or valid, only that he thinks it is one of the best from a heap of garbage. Further, Dawkins is not an astrophysicist, a cosmologist, or even an astronomer, he is an evolutionary biologist.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
@@letstrytouserealscienceoka3564 I know that he’s not physicists and he’s an evolutionary biologist. I’m saying HE said with his own words that’s the fine tuning of the universe is the best argument for God and he’s an atheist. You’re just making excuses because you know God is real brother. You can’t be mad at something that doesn’t exist. Repent and turn to God.
@letstrytouserealscienceoka3564
@@dannyreborn I am not making excuses. I am pointing out that Dawkins has no experience in astrophysics whatsoever, and that saying that fine-tuning is your best argument is not the same as saying that it is a good argument. No argument is enough to show that deities, or anything "supernatural", is a part of objective reality. You need evidence, direct objective empirical evidence of your specific deity. If you really want me to believe that your deity is objectively real then present it for examination, testing, and questioning to see if it can live to any, and all, of your claims for it. I have never been anything other than an atheist in my 67+ years and I don't secretly believe that any deities are objectively real, let alone your specific one. I am not mad at deities, they are fictional characters. I am disappointed that any adult in this day and age needs to rely on a fiction of their own making to cope with reality. I feel sorry for you and anyone else who has been so deluded that you actually think that we all need such a wobbly crutch to walk through the one and only life we will ever have. Show me, with real verified direct objective empirical evidence that your deity is objectively real. If it is, and it is the deity or deities of the Christian bible then I do hope you will join me in locking it away for crimes against humanity. The gods described in the bible are horrific creatures. You might want to check that other Dawkins quote on that issue.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
@@letstrytouserealscienceoka3564 you cannot put God inside of a test tube and test him. Your human thinking is way beyond Gods capacity and what you could imagine. Your insulting people for believing in God which clearly shows your emotional and you devote this much time to prove that what God doesn’t exist ? It seems like you’re obsessed him. God bless you brother I will pray you. I know you are struggling.
@hamster4618
@hamster4618 2 года назад
I don’t have enough imagination to believe in gods, demons, zombies or angels, garden gnomes coming to life at night, pixies or werewolves. Not to mention the first part of the bible isn’t exactly inspiring when it comes to morality, as the practices are heinous.
@jesuslovesyou37
@jesuslovesyou37 2 года назад
Think of it this way... just because you don't believe in the Sun, doesn't make it any less real. You've never seen the planet Pluto in person, but that doesn't mean it's not still out there. Stephen C Meyer, PHD stated it this way, "If it's true there's a beginning to the universe, as modern cosmologists now agree, then this implies a cause that transcends the universe. If the laws of physics are fine-tuned to permit life, as contemporary physicists are discovering, then perhaps there's a designer who fine-tuned them. If there's information in the cell, as molecular biology shows, then this suggests intelligent design. To get life going in the first place would have required biological information; the implications point beyond the material realm to a prior intelligent cause."
@hamster4618
@hamster4618 2 года назад
@@jesuslovesyou37 but I sure can see the sun. Unlike any supposed god, let alone your specific “God”. As for the “fine tuning” argument, I would say it’s evidence for no god. If a supposed God who supposedly created the earth for humans, created the whole universe with it, it did a poor job of over-dimensioning the universe. A vast space utterly useless for human habitation, while creating a speck of a planet in which humans, of which, once more most surface area is not habitable. In addition, that area that is habitable is already used up for 50% for agricultural purposes; and that in (according to the bible) just a couple of generations. An earth that is overcrowded by humans who are rapidly going through all recourses, degrading top soil, leaving their plastics all over the place and toxins in quantities harmful for humans. Not to mention it is utterly weird and kinda sick he would have created the whole vast, limitless universe, with an uncountable number of stars, yet he managed no more than 2 humans. Created in his pottery class with some dirt. Heck, even Emperor Quinshihuang managed to have a Terracotta Army of 8000 made. Yet the supposed God, creator of all, could only manage 1 or 2? Nah, I don’t buy it. Not to mention the fact that by creating only 2 people, or actually 1 and then cloning it (transgender? What’s that deal?) and then ordering them to procreate to fill earth, he in effect ordered them to incestueus inbreeding. That to rings untrue. Nah, us being here all flawed and all, are here as a matter of chance, luck and development over billions of years. And at one point, in billions of years it all will likely collapse or explode or whatever, and then change again over billions of years.
@2l84me8
@2l84me8 Год назад
Exactly, it’s all make believe and superstition.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
what exactly are you talking about bro? You know there’s context behind every atrocities you’re claiming let me guess slavery ? The Canaanites and genocide? All debunked and actually have context behind it. Before you make your assumptions on something actually read it. There is reasons behind all of it. You believe that nothing created something out of nothing. That’s like me believing a Tesla model x is just gonna pop up in my room one day. Well guess what it’s never gonna happen and it never will. But God because he’s intelligent made us and we’re intelligent and make decisions. You know God is real.
@hamster4618
@hamster4618 Год назад
@@dannyreborn well, personally I think stoning people to death is pretty much the vilest of things one can do to another. Or, burning someone alive, pretty depraved in fact. Yet, according to your bible, ordered by “God” for things that really don’t warrant capital punishments. Unfortunately I started reading the Old Testament in 2014, when some folk of the Abrahamistic persuasion re-enacted the book of Moses in that same area. It was the sickest society I have ever seen and made me realise just how deprave the supposed orders of the supposed “God” were. No excuse, no context can ever justify a rule based on those types of laws for 2000 years. It’s ghastly.
@johnadegboye8606
@johnadegboye8606 10 месяцев назад
C.S Lewis puts it nicely. "Men became scientific because they believed in the law of nature, and they believed the law of nature, because they believed in the law giver. Now, to even begin to unfold the chapters of knowledge and make astounding discoveries requires a sheer level of faith. What's the physical guarantee that inventions are possible? I see atheists trying to separate faith and science like they also are not creatures of faith. It always takes faith. Plus Evolution is utterly based on Faith. I studied Archaeology in school, and believe me when I tell you it takes a massive level of faith to begin to objectively label some findings after exploring different theories and possibilities of what had happened or the story behind the artefact discovered. Its voodoo science, discovering bones in situ and calling it australophiticus, ramaphiticus, homo hablis when the skeletal frame in fact isn't comprehensive enough. Stephen Gould an American scientist believed it was very misleading to fleshen up the discovered bones in biology textbooks, when only broken, fragmeted and deformed skulls were found. It could have been in that SHAPE for a long period of time due to the pressure released on the skull by the density of the soil. But then Scientist in the name of practicing science proceed to give the discovery a 'full blown' body based on their speculations and variants of possibilities. How is that science?!! It takes FAITH to do that. Faith! That's what it takes. Also, there's been an immense skepticism about the creative power of mutation in regards to the natural selection mechanism. How can random changes acting on a living organism, this time, a coherent information in software programme for example result to a new form of life without degenerating what has been there, or this time, including more biological details that are not mindful of an organism's need for survival? In a nutshell, how is a baseline accuracy achieved such that it is consistent with the coherent string of DNA characters that is already existing in an organism that is being carried through the mutation process? Evolution is very FALSE, and I don't know how else to over emphasize this. Believe in Jesus Christ and Be Saved Today. He Loves You even if you hate him, and He wants you. To see for yourself, ask Jesus that if He is real, He should reveal himself to you, and you watch what happens.❤ And please guyss...Thinking is a personal thing, don't let some physicist, scientist all in the name of professional or authority appeal force you into thinking a certain way, even me, that's why I said to ask Jesus yourself. So many things in fact I have seen in Stephen Hawking's book Philosophy of Science that fulls beneath the scoreline of undiluted and dexterous science, highly misleading intelligent nonsense. Most of them are a bit of science rubbed with subjective views, coupled with his ability to market them with his authority appeal.
@dragandjordjevic5603
@dragandjordjevic5603 4 месяца назад
Morality is not developed and given to each human by god, or pre-existing divine developed standard. Morality is developed in each human at early age by social norms, unwritten and written laws that exist at certain time in certain cultures. That is why morality is fluid and developing through the human history and morality of cavemen is different or morality nowadays.
@hamster4618
@hamster4618 2 года назад
Stop with the lies, just because you cannot understand living in a society, understand we are group mammals, don’t make false claims.
@Iron_Sharpens_Iron
@Iron_Sharpens_Iron Год назад
Idiot
@heavnxbound
@heavnxbound Год назад
They’re false claims because your opinion is different? Nice.
@hamster4618
@hamster4618 Год назад
@@heavnxbound than enlighten me what are objective morals? To kill gays as “God” supposedly ordered in the OT, or not to do so because Jesus said something vague on the order of stoning? How about blasphemers? Is it moral to kill them as instructed by the “Lord” or not? One of the founders of Protestantism, the original Martin Luther thought it was right to kill Jws (believing them blasphemers for not believing in Jesus). Luther pretty much wrote the blue print for Kristalnach. Not surprisingly the Nazis awarded him Kristalnach on his birthday. Meanwhile pretty much all people (with the apparent exception of Turek) that morality changes. Turek might be enjoying the stonings of adulterers by the Taliban because god said that is the appropriate punishment; most sane people think stoning is brutal and immoral. Most people (with the apparent exception of Turek) do not think a women showing her ankle or calf think she’s a whore, while the moral prudish views in Elizabethan times certainly believed only loose women did that. Also good to hear Frank’s wife never wears a bikini or swimsuit, but in a burqini just to hold on to those old never changing moral views he seems to hold. But fine, he holds the same moral views as Moses, so thinks it’s fine to own people as property. To kill his enemies and keep the young girls as sex slaves. If that’s his position. Fine. The. He’s not lying. In all other cases he is and knows it. We live in a society. The society as a whole determines what’s moral or not. It’s how laws come about or are dropped.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
@@hamster4618 exodus 21:16- whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death.” The Bible does not endorse slavery or rape. God commands to love your neighbor as your self and that is a commandment. Anyone in the Old Testament who broke these laws was to be put to death. Also, in Hebrew the word slave has a different meaning when translated it’s translated to foreigner. Also slave didn’t mean the same thing it did at the time. Gay means something completely different now then it did 50 years ago. Before people used it as a term of being happy. Now it means feeling attraction for the same sex. Also you read the Old Testament out of context then because those so “called” slaves are actually working off means of debt and are to be treated with respect ; According to Leviticus " When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God."- Leviticus 19:33-34 also What you are referring to in the old testament was voluntary means of working off debt. All men were created in the image of God and everyone is equal. The Hebrew for what you are referring to and the people that are mentioned in the passage are called the Toshab (Sojourners) and the Gar (Foreigners) .
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
@@hamster4618 you are provided with all the evidence in the world. What you are saying is effectively wrong, you just don’t like the fact that Frank Turek has a different point of view from you and he provides evidence.
@lostfan5054
@lostfan5054 Год назад
Is this real? This must be satire because I've watched Frank being corrected on all these points years ago and he keeps saying them as if he doesn't know better now.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
Brother you know frank is right. I know in your heart that you are seeking for the truth and deep down in your heart you’re trying to fill that empty heart with stuff that can’t fill it. Sex, alcohol, money and relationships but you’re longing for the most important relationship and that’s with Jesus Christ. I’m going to be praying for you bro.
@lostfan5054
@lostfan5054 Год назад
@@dannyreborn How did you determine this to be true? After all, anyone can say the same thing about anything. "Islam filled the hole in my heart" "My new job has filled the hole in my heart" See what I mean? There are lots of things that make us feel good. Believing in a god can do that too. So how can we figure out if your god is actually real?
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
@@lostfan5054 because it’s objectively True. God is real and deep down you know. Through creation you know. If there’s a creation there needs to be creator. Look around wherever you are. Everything you see around you had a creator to it. Even buildings you don’t just walk past a building and say oh there’s no creator. Even if the builder died 300 years ago you know there was. So yes there is a God and you feel empty with God and you’re trying to fill it with all these other things but really deep down you’re longing for God and a relationship with him. If everything else filled it would’ve by now.
@lostfan5054
@lostfan5054 Год назад
@@dannyreborn I don't have any such hole and I don't believe you do either. You were lacking something and you found a near story that made you feel good. You have a God-shaped hole in the same way that kids have a Santa-shaped hole Also, I don't have any reason to think the world is a building. Yes, buildings have builders. Universes don't seem to have universe makers, as far as I can tell. The universe is not a building.
@letstrytouserealscienceoka3564
@@dannyreborn If it is objectively true then you should be able to produce your deity so that we can examine, test, and question it to see if it lives up to the claims made for it. Objectively true means that it must be a part of objective reality, the reality that we all share. We do not share minds, and that is the only place your deity resides, in your mind. That is called subjective reality. Your deity is only subjectively real. That is why no one has ever been able to show that their deity is objectively real, something that should be easy if it is true. I think that it is you who have a big empty that you have been unable to fill even with the deities that you have created specifically for that purpose. I have never had a need, or even a desire, for such fantasies. I find them superfluous, utterly unnecessary, a waste of my time. If the make believe of deities and their magic helps you cope that is OK, but it does not make them objectively real. It does not make them capable of doing anything in objective reality, the reality that we all share. Either produce your specific deity or admit that it is all in your mind. Go ahead, prove me wrong.
@robtruax7640
@robtruax7640 11 месяцев назад
But, that is also true about Islam and many other religions. Many don’t like Islam..does that make Islam true?
@donnyh3497
@donnyh3497 Год назад
I used to think that Frank was just ignorant about all of his talking points but it's been long enough for him to look into it all. At this point it has become obvious that he is just a used car salesman who doesn't care at all about his followers as long as they buy his nonsense and give him money.
@ksjohnson8197
@ksjohnson8197 Год назад
Hmm. You are sure entitled to your opinion but what blows me away is when one does an open minded investigation into the things he talks about, there's a mountain of evidence and logic to back up what he says and believes. The scientific, literary, historical, archeological and even logic itself are massively in favor of what he purports. Scientist know that the universe had a beginning and that it is finely tuned to operate properly. Scientists know that it had to take a superior supernatural intelligence to write our 5 billion character DNA code which is part of the building blocks for life. Scientist know that the many components of our 60 trillion cells had to be in place at the same time for the cell to function and reproduce. And they also know that the chances of this happening by chance or evolution is pretty much zero know matter how long it could have taken to happen. Many of these scientists know it was God who did this this. And many scientists will not admit it is God who did this. The only logical explanation is they know if they admit the God of the Bible did it, they then have to be accountable to Him. And there lies the rub. We want to live independently of God and do our own thing. But if God is real and the Bible is Truth, then it also talks about the one called Satan whose whose only agenda is to kill, steal and destroy. He and his minions does this by working incognIto through deception to use our God given freewill against us. The Bible also tells us that due to the fall of Genesis 3, we are all born by default under his control. So where does that leave us. That's why Jesus, the God/man, The Creator came to make a way to escape Satan's control and come under God's control Who gives us abundant eternal life. It's a totally free gift. So please don't be like the scientist who won't believe in spite of all the evidence. Because in that state you are already toast. Just ask Jesus to show you the Truth. I promise He answers that prayer 100% of the time.
@donnyh3497
@donnyh3497 Год назад
@@ksjohnson8197 WOW! You must buy in to all of Frank's bullsh*t because you obviously haven't looked into any of the science outside of your christian bubble. You are too far gone down the brainwashing trail to ever make it back to reality. Look around you for christ's sake, nothing in this world points to a creator let alone the absolutely stupid jesus story. Get out of your bubble for a while and let the fog clear
@JT-ht6fk
@JT-ht6fk Год назад
I will pray for you.
@donnyh3497
@donnyh3497 Год назад
@@JT-ht6fk I actually really appreciate the sentiment no matter how worthless it is in real life. And I hope you figure out that all religions are the same man made nonsense. Sincerely
@donnyh3497
@donnyh3497 Год назад
@Lucase Than Yeah I agree. god actually can't do anything at all because things that are imaginary can't affect reality. But worship it anyway, no one will stop you
@hasone1848
@hasone1848 Год назад
Everything frank is saying is base and the assumption that a god is real and exists. God has never been demonstrated to be real, and until someone can show that god is real then everything frank is saying is completely false!!
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
So you don’t believe In love ? You can act out love but you can’t physically see it. You don’t believe in WiFi ? And electro magnetic waves? what about the laws of logic can you see that ? You see you have so much faith in other things but discredit faith in God because you wanna live however you wanna live. But at the end of the day you will face God at the end of your life and brother I advise you to accept Christ and turn from your sin. I know you know deep down every excuse you make; you know God is real.
@hasone1848
@hasone1848 Год назад
@@dannyreborn You can't see love but you can very much demonstrate it's real, you said it yourself, you can act it out. Love is an emotion like happiness, sadness, and frustration. Those are byproducts of the brain which affect behaviors in people (reason falls in this category as well, it's a mental tool). Electromagnetic waves, well visible light is included in this so you CAN see it, it's literally the only thing we can see. And wifi is an electromagnetic wave that we can send packets of data over. All of these you can demonstrate easily, no faith needed! And don't push your presuppositional garbage on me. How do you know what is in my head better than me? Can you show that your god is real?
@kajetantatara2327
@kajetantatara2327 Год назад
@@dannyreborn Out of the things you mentioned, I have to concede that the laws of logic aren't set in stone, but agreed upon for the sake of discourse, but love is as far as we know just chemicals in the brain, and you can see effects of wifi and electromagnetic waves, so please don't be dishonest about those
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
@@kajetantatara2327 you can’t see them with the naked eye. Did you see the Big Bang happen ? can you see gravity? You see the effects of it but you can’t see it. Have you ever seen a black whole ? Can you see the molecular structure of a dog ? Not with the naked human eye.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 Год назад
@@dannyreborn Love is an EMOTIONAL reaction sheesh. You think YOUR god has love ? How about reading your iron age myth. Count up the murders by YOUR loving god ! 2.5 MILLION THAT is your loving god
@ob1coyote
@ob1coyote 5 месяцев назад
Christopher Hitchens must not have spent much time on Twitter. Non-believers are capable of multitudes of vile hatred without religion to blame.
@Bugsy0333
@Bugsy0333 5 месяцев назад
Believers fall under that category as well. One only has to look at the Roman Catholic Church and the sexual abuse by their priests on children.Sick
@bobvadney7240
@bobvadney7240 5 месяцев назад
And we know the dog, btw right & wrong bc of Jn. 1:9-11 & that’s why Rom1:21,22 is true & man is accountable & responsible for his actions… contrary to catholic calvinism❤
@christopherlynass2416
@christopherlynass2416 7 месяцев назад
Thanks Frank God bless you
@skepticsinister
@skepticsinister Год назад
Morality comes from humanity, empathy, and evolves as we do, there is no requirement for a god, humans determine that we have rights, it is the opinion of the whole. Religion is no solution for the requirements of humanity in the 21st century.
@StruttinStrayCat
@StruttinStrayCat 9 месяцев назад
Does this mean anything immoral can become moral if enough people agreed on it?
@vincethan7111
@vincethan7111 6 месяцев назад
My biggest problem is that people who are prideful and ignorant think that are beyond God. I promise you this you will see the truth in this life God has given you or the afterlife. I choose to follow the truth now I’m not going to wait till my death bed where I was at several times but Jesus told me my work is not done. Thank you Frank! Keep telling the truth. Jesus is God end of discussion no debate.
@trumpbellend6717
@trumpbellend6717 5 месяцев назад
. "Truth" is demonstrated dear not asserted, its that which best conforms with the FACTS and EVIDENCE and has nothing whatsoever to do with "faith" Knowledge of FACTS, also called "propositional knowledge", is defined as true belief that is distinct from opinion or guesswork by virtue of justification. A "FACT" is a point of data that is objectively verifiable ( demonstrable ) Absent "Facts" one has only the opinion or guesswork and no justification to claim such knowledge. Science has all the FACTS yet claims nothing as "absolute" truth. Christianity conversely claims absolute truth in everything yet has no FACTS 😜 Perhaps it would be best if you just go back to your colouring book and leave these discussions to the adults dear.
@hasone1848
@hasone1848 4 месяца назад
@@trumpbellend6717 your comment is right on the money!!!
@telfairvortex777
@telfairvortex777 Месяц назад
There is a verse if I remember right it's in thessalonians talking about the antichrist opposing and exalting himself above all that is called God and worshipped sitting in a temple claiming that he is God..they do reject God alot of them are lukewarm and God is not lying about anything especially judgement day so unbelievers or lukewarm believers will definitely see then but it will be too late...There are plenty of verses I think of for people that want to debate against the christian faith the bible Jesus etc I don't want to be these people come judgement day as Jesus said whoever rejects me and doesn't receive my words has one that judges him the words that I have spoken the same will judge them in the last day( judgement day)...When Jesus get the angel to throw them in the lake of fire forever it's gonna be too late as the word of God tells us there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth...
@tombyers5744
@tombyers5744 7 месяцев назад
When talking about the bad things humanity has done, like the Holocaust, why doesn’t he also bring up the great crusades?
@exaucemayunga22
@exaucemayunga22 5 месяцев назад
And that Hitler was a Christian...
@jovitagutay3692
@jovitagutay3692 Месяц назад
What about our tongue? How is it that we can taste sweet, bitter, sour, salty spicy etc.! I mean we can have 10 tongues one is for sweet, one is for sour and all 😅but we have only one and it’s amazing, and it is connected to the brain that says ohhh it’s so delicious or it’s not delicious! Isn’t it that our God is an awesome God?! Olwhats the purpose of our nails? We can have just fingers without it? Well there’s a lot more…
@exaucemayunga22
@exaucemayunga22 5 месяцев назад
What does God think about Slavery, Misogyny, Rape, Marriage, Polygamy?
@ahope4u2
@ahope4u2 5 месяцев назад
What do YOU think about the wicked behavior of humans when given free will?
@exaucemayunga22
@exaucemayunga22 5 месяцев назад
@@ahope4u2 I don't believe anyone gave us free will.
@trumpbellend6717
@trumpbellend6717 4 месяца назад
​​@@ahope4u2 lol we are not talking about what mere mortal "MEN" did dear but rather what a supposed PERFECT omnipotent omniscient omnibenevolent loving God *TOLD* them to do 🤢🤮
@user-gr3oo5ux9x
@user-gr3oo5ux9x 27 дней назад
Keep seeking
@Bugsy0333
@Bugsy0333 10 месяцев назад
Morality is a code of values accepted by choice. If there is no choice, there is no morality. If you accept a moral code from your favorite deity because you are afraid of what he will do to you if you don’t, that is the morality of a very young child. Such behavior has nothing to do with goodness. If you accept a moral code from your favorite deity because of what it buys for you in some afterlife, you are a fool in this life and probably open to objectively criminal behavior as well. Moral statements are guideposts to good living in this life. Morality only matters to the living. What is morality without God? Worthwhile.
@Bugsy0333
@Bugsy0333 10 месяцев назад
@@brianh2212 Sure
@Bugsy0333
@Bugsy0333 10 месяцев назад
@@brianh2212 So you have laid down your foundation i am ready for you closing arguement ?
@Bugsy0333
@Bugsy0333 10 месяцев назад
@@brianh2212 I debate this everyday on this platform.Mostly 'God' endorsing slavery. So this is nothing new to me ? Humans had morality long before Judaism or Christianity was a thing. Civilizations that have never heard the word of God have moral and ethical systems. And the reason is much simpler than a God: we need morality to have social cohesiveness if the group is big enough. So every time the tribe becomes bigger than the “monkey sphere” aka Dunbar’s number - the number of people with whom one can maintain stable social relationships - it invents some form of morality.
@DomskiOKKK
@DomskiOKKK 4 месяца назад
@@Bugsy0333Did you miss the part about Romans chapter 2 it seems so.
@Bugsy0333
@Bugsy0333 4 месяца назад
@@DomskiOKKK Did you miss Leviticus 25:44-46 Seems so. Here let us take a look at what a loving and caring God wishes ok ? ‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
@bennettdeneghuedoeshits2950
@bennettdeneghuedoeshits2950 9 месяцев назад
I've heard this argument so many times, and he nailed the correct answer quite a few times but brushed past it. Yes, there is no purpose to life, and yes, morality is just an opinion. We create our own purpose, just as we create our own morality.
@Bugsy0333
@Bugsy0333 9 месяцев назад
Agreed !
@lae3418
@lae3418 8 месяцев назад
Lol according to you? Thats just your opinion your trying to implement this objective truth using opinion
@bennettdeneghuedoeshits2950
@bennettdeneghuedoeshits2950 8 месяцев назад
@@lae3418 There is no objective truth when it comes to morality. Why do you think there's still a debate over abortion? Some people are ok with it, and some believe it's immoral. There's loads we haven't worked out yet.
@TheJas20
@TheJas20 8 месяцев назад
that being the case, i hope someone doesn't exert their subjective morality at your cost @@bennettdeneghuedoeshits2950
@SpideysNo1Fan
@SpideysNo1Fan 8 месяцев назад
​@bennettdeneghuedoeshits2950 if there is no objective truth when it comes to morality, then who is to say that murder, rape, theft, etc., are wrong? You? Me? Where do you get your truth from and why is your truth better than mine? If you say theft is wrong, but I say it's right and I can take what I want, just because I can, who are you to day it's not?? See, if there is no truth, there is no morality. Period.
@olaf9093
@olaf9093 Месяц назад
We need the moral Righteousness of God to create Society because without a moral God there will never be a world of peace and prosperity.
@telfairvortex777
@telfairvortex777 Месяц назад
Too late for that the world is far too corrupted and ungodly..You can look all around for that Good is evil and evil is good Ain't gonna be no earth of righteousness here on earth it's only gonna get more corrupt..The saved live for God and try not to be conformed to this world while we are here..Then you leave this wicked world and go and be with the lord..
@telfairvortex777
@telfairvortex777 Месяц назад
The wicked been creating society they aren't getting rid of the wickedness on earth..That's why there are gun stores porn stores strip clubs brothels and whorehouses etc etc they aren't gonna get rid of or outlaw or make these things illegal on earth marijuana shops you can forget building a righteous world
@Jesus_istheRealTopG
@Jesus_istheRealTopG 9 месяцев назад
A perfect holy and just God has set up existence an all was good. God doesn’t allow evil into the world. Humanity has however. The more evil happens the more we’re distancing ourselves from God. The more wicked you do the further from him you are. He designed the way it works and he won’t compromise for any man. It’s Mans job to compromise for God. What high seat it is we think we sit. If you do not choose Jesus you’re making your own bed. Those who live a life of servitude, self sacrifice and genuine relationship with your CREATOR will do what’s right just because it’s whats meant to be. In the Name of the son, Jesus. Think of the people who are having the hardest time of it in this life. Jesus would heal him in body spirit and mind. That’s what we have to do. I could go deeper because the Lord has revealed many things to me. I’m no better than anyone I have started my best to live in this way and I have seen the Lord in all things. I watch in real time him working all around me because I bring my issues to Jesus and try to live His way. That’s why dying for a friend is a High honor. I love you all genuinely. Humanity is special but don’t think the Words in the Bible aren’t the Truth and he won’t start a new because he can do anything he chooses to. The stories of the profits are the result of this and you can literally have visions and know things to come. They’re puzzle pieces they all come together. In the case of science also if we were to use technology in conjunction with God instead of to try and oppose The Almighty. To uplift all Humanity to come together as He wants we would all be fulfilled. We would be so much further. I try to humble myself always and knowing these things it hearts your heart and soul seeing all the suffering and destruction. An still I pray the ones working for their own desctruction to turn from their wickedness and repent. With humility and ask the Lord for forgiveness, otherwise the day of the Lord they will immediately know their own eternal demise. All knees will fall before The Lord. All knees will drop before Yeshua. He is the Way the Truth and the Life. Fully Man and fully God. He set the example forever and will reign forever. Ahmen.
@ignacioxxxarge
@ignacioxxxarge 8 месяцев назад
Madre teresa had shady shit behind her...
@kennywong5857
@kennywong5857 9 месяцев назад
It goes like this. God is to build an eternity we call Heaven. The question is who can enter Heaven. God sets up Law for angels and humans to obey through a defined period time, then followed by a so-called Final Judgment to determine openly who can enter Heaven. To put it another way, Law serves as a measurement to see who can live with a sin-incompatible God in eternity. This started with humans without writing capability. Law (or rather a reflection of it) is written in our heart which remains as our conscience. However, by our freewill men's heart can be hardened. We are educated or re-educated by parental teaching, social encounters and such. We are even educatable when we are in mother's womb (as a matter of by whom though). So that everyone can have a variation of morality, though the original moral code is objective. That's why we need a God who can judge heart to do the Final Judgment for us. God/Jesus will use a covenant in place as the standard and takes everything into consideration to deliver a judgment result. That is, the original objective moral code will be used as a standard for our judgment, but God/Jesus will take everything into consideration. We need a just and fair God to do the Final Judgment for us humans. The Judgment for the angels are much more simple and straight forward.
@trumpbellend6717
@trumpbellend6717 5 месяцев назад
Well my "conscience" tells me that *"Buy your slaves from the heathen nations that surround you"* Is not nor ever was a "moral" instruction and certainly not a moral reference standard that anyone should adhere or aspire to. Do you agree *YES or NO* ?? 🤔
@trumpbellend6717
@trumpbellend6717 5 месяцев назад
You say that *_"God has written morality on our hearts"_* but there are several rather obvious problems with this assertion. Firstly if that were indeed the case then we would all regard the *SAME* "God" to be moral and regard the *SAME* scriptures and the laws they contain to be "moral," this is most certainly NOT the case. Most people do NOT think it immoral for a female to uncover her hair in public or to not face a specific landmark and pray five times a day. Most people in the world are just fine with eating bacon, wearing clothing of mixed fabrics and even picking up sticks on any day of the week. We do NOT think that our unruly rebellious children who disobey their parents ( sounds like most teenagers to me ) are deserving of the death penalty and we recognise that an instruction to _"Buy your slaves from the heathen nations that surround you"_ could never represent guidance from a perfect omnibenevolent unifying moral standard. We do however all have commonly held values found the world over irrespective of which religion or NO religion. These value all conform with our ideas about human wellbeing. As previously stated they are the basis for our ethical and legal systems the world over and for the most part it is only the concept of SIN ( perceived transgressions against the whims of subjective invisible beings ) that the disagreement occurs. Im not speculating here or just giving you my "opinion" the above is all *FACT* regardless of the existence or non existence of ANY "God". Given this, should humanity adhere and aspire to the common values that unite us all and have real impacts on real people here in the real world. ? Alternatively should we continue on trying to impose the perceived whims of our own subjectively determined invisible "one true God" that divide humanity and have no positive impact on wellbeing that can't also be attained via secular morality ?? Come on surely we are better than this, the sooner the world throws out like old furniture these gods and their barbaric religious ideological baggage the better.
@kennywong5857
@kennywong5857 5 месяцев назад
@@trumpbellend6717 Do you even know that slavery is an establishment from or endorsed by the most moral humans back to the point? Would you explain why? See my pizza topping comment for an answer.
@kennywong5857
@kennywong5857 5 месяцев назад
@@trumpbellend6717I already explained. As an analogy, Law in our heart is like the bread part of a pizza. It’s common to all pizzas disregarding what toppings put above. Which is the morality part put in our heart and will be used for humans Final Judgment. On top of this bread part of the pizza we add different toppings which altered our final morality. These toppings are a result of social culture developed, parental education and even from influence of the angelic beings. Moreover, our legal system actually relies on our common morality to work. That’s why all legal systems on earth share large part of similar content. Added that humans don’t need to read laws in order to obey laws. You don’t reread laws when traveling from one nation to another. Covering head is not part of the Law written in our heart. It is instead a Jewish Law (written either orally or literally but not in heart) or custom. You are confused, just as in any other part of your reply. Your “No God” assertion is simply from your own baseless faith or at best your poersonal speculation. I’ll give you another analogy here. If aliens exist and they have a reason to hide from us, then how possible that humans get to know their existence? The only way is by chance the aliens are encountered by eyewitnesses then for other humans to believe with faith. God allows humans to approach Him in the same manner. He has the chosen prophets as the eyewitnesses and for the rest of human kind to believe with faith. Apparently, you don't know how a truth shall convey among humans. Humans consider "something" a legitimate candidate of truth for a reason. Again, I'll give an analogy here for you to have a clue. Is it Trump won the votes or is it Biden? At the end a human can choose to believe Trump won or Biden won, even under the circumstance that we clearly know that one of them must be a lie! Now go figuring out why! That being said, if God is true (let's assume so for a while and for the sake of arugment) the only possible way for this truth to convey is what you can see through the Holy Bible as a testimony from eyewitness accounts. Come on, surely you can do better than this, to figure things out especially about how a truth (of any kind) shall convey among humans!
@trumpbellend6717
@trumpbellend6717 5 месяцев назад
@@kennywong5857 Lol _"pizza topping"_ 🤭😂 if you want to use this absurd analogy then I would say that wellbeing and the values it incorporate's is the "bread" and all the different subjective religious piffle is the "Topping" dear 😜
@danielstefanrobertsen7931
@danielstefanrobertsen7931 9 месяцев назад
Just repect the 10 commends, them u have morality!
@cassiebennet4262
@cassiebennet4262 9 месяцев назад
The ten commandments. Trying to keep the Commandments is impossible. That is a works based salvation or karmic cleansing that Luciferians believe in aka the Catholic church. Christians are saved by grace through faith of Jesus Christ's blood atonement. I'm also not sure why you're against morality. Seems odd.
@tylere.8436
@tylere.8436 8 месяцев назад
Apparently most Christians don't keep the Sabbath holy and remember to do so. I blame Constantine and his Sol Invictus homages.
@bobbrown21
@bobbrown21 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for standing up for the truth know the truth and the truth will set you free Jesus died for our sins and lives and asks us to come live with him if you accept them in your heart you will be in heaven when you pass away on this life praise God thank you for giving us the truth keep up the good work on the videos
@WhoanellyNone-bp4sk
@WhoanellyNone-bp4sk 18 дней назад
True Christian’s aren’t hypocrites! The ones that call themselves Christian’s but are actually lukewarm are! God will spew him out of his mouth! He would rather u be hot or cold anything but lukewarm! And God does exist! It’s a given! U don’t even have to question it!Yes! Don’t judge in unrighteousness! But if u c someone is in error and needs to repent u need to counsel them but in the spirit of love and charity and true Christians have that! But if ur sinning especially committing that same sin u aren’t the right person to counsel them Becuz that makes u a hypocrite!
@Bugsy0333
@Bugsy0333 15 дней назад
Please show me your God ?
@all_bets_on_Ganesh
@all_bets_on_Ganesh Месяц назад
Hypocrisy is at least number six or seven to me. Legislating biblical nonsense is my first. Lying about science would be my second. THEN COMES BEING CALLED SATANIC FOR EXPRESSING MY OPINION. Then i have a few personal pet peeves, and then yeah the hypocrisy after that.
@SK-kg6en
@SK-kg6en 29 дней назад
Satanic comments are not needed if you are not interested to know true God. Thank you!
@all_bets_on_Ganesh
@all_bets_on_Ganesh 29 дней назад
@@SK-kg6en Thanks edited my comment appropriately.
@SK-kg6en
@SK-kg6en 29 дней назад
Yes. Your elephant nonsense doesnt need to be shown here.
@jovitagutay3692
@jovitagutay3692 Месяц назад
Or the simplest way to describe what are we without God is were not here 😅and second even if we’re here we’re no different with animals
@anetteridleyrodriguez
@anetteridleyrodriguez 5 месяцев назад
I told this to my atheist husband and his answer to morality was self preservation and the advancement of humanity. If one doesn't have morals, it isn't a productive way to live and humanity wouldn't last long if it was immoral. It makes sense to me. I'm trying to convince him but my husband has great answers to everything.
@charliegarnett9757
@charliegarnett9757 5 месяцев назад
We can all look at the same evidence and draw different conclusions…it happens all the time. When one is in a state I’d denial and argument will do. I assume you believe that Christ is your risen savior. If that is true here is the “end of the day answer” for me. One day we will both pass away. If you are right neither of us will know the difference. If I am right I will spend eternity with my maker. My prayer is that you will be there too.
@trumpbellend6717
@trumpbellend6717 5 месяцев назад
​​@@charliegarnett9757 Let me ask you do you lose any sleep at night worrying "what If the Buddhist god is the real one" ? No, how about islam or hinduism ? Maybe those that believed in Thor, Zeus mithrah, or any of the thousands of other gods got it right 🤔🤔 But hey let's just assume that the god with the talking snake is indeed the correct one. There are thousands of denominations of christianity and each one has its own particular interpretation of gods wishes and morality and thinks that all the other denominations and interpretations have got it wrong. Many believe that unless you are in their specific denomination you are doomed to hell ( that means you ) You see you and me both are atheists to all these thousands of other gods, I just go one god further 😜
@exaucemayunga22
@exaucemayunga22 5 месяцев назад
​@@trumpbellend6717Exactly! Even Christians in the same church don't believe in the same things. It's sad.
@trumpbellend6717
@trumpbellend6717 5 месяцев назад
@@exaucemayunga22 Yep 43,000 conflicting denominations of christianity 🤭😂
@DomskiOKKK
@DomskiOKKK 4 месяца назад
@@trumpbellend6717Jesus didn’t teach anything about denominations
@user-gr3oo5ux9x
@user-gr3oo5ux9x 27 дней назад
Just more of the matrix.are u still plugged in?
@bryanthomas6063
@bryanthomas6063 5 месяцев назад
Go to the foot of your bed, get on your knees, let your mind rest, and say to God, “if you are who you say you are as it is written in the Bible, please reveal yourself to me, show me your love, and save me from my sin.” Do that and watch what happens. If you are sincere, your old self will die and your new existence as a child of God will begin.
@trumpbellend6717
@trumpbellend6717 5 месяцев назад
Grow up 🤭😂🤣
@exaucemayunga22
@exaucemayunga22 5 месяцев назад
How did he reveal himself to you?
@bryanthomas6063
@bryanthomas6063 5 месяцев назад
@@exaucemayunga22 A few different things happened. I heard the gospel message presented in a way I never heard it that struck my heart and soul. That was when I was a teenager. I then drifted from my faith until I had a combination of experiences that led me back to God. I then made the choice to accept the Bible as the absolute truth, and God slowly started revealing more and more of who he was and what my identity was in him. Prayer throughout the way also played a big role. It wasn’t a one time thing. It was over time. He started a work in me when I asked him to. When I drifted from him, he brought me back to him. He is now finishing the work he started in me which will continue until I pass away. I still sin every day and fight the same battles we all fight, just in a much different way than I used to. Did that help? Do you have anymore questions? Also, as a disclaimer to anyone who might read this, I don’t argue and debate. I just share my experience and path to those who ask.
@exaucemayunga22
@exaucemayunga22 5 месяцев назад
@@bryanthomas6063 so it's just your personal feeling.
@bryanthomas6063
@bryanthomas6063 5 месяцев назад
@@exaucemayunga22I would say it is my personal truth and world view.
@corywhitebread6519
@corywhitebread6519 Месяц назад
This is an absolute bold assertion that morality proves a god. No, this becomes a huge fallacy when faced with the claims of morals within his own book. The bible never condemns slavery or genocide. In fact it even goes as far as to give instructions for the proper way to own other humans as property. Is this seen as morally good today? Certainly not. In fact at no point in time should it have been considered as morally good. So how do you justify the teachings that condoned it in this book?
@m4ttty88
@m4ttty88 29 дней назад
It's sorta like how we're looking at slavery? You realize there's a estimated 27 million people today in some form of slavery right (sex trafficking, labour forced work) heck I might be even a slave today by some standards I have a boss lol And yes these are all wrong but back in the day slavery was around before the mosaic law was even made... we get that its more regulating slavery but it does say no genocide "thou shall not murder" lol and in exodus it says "whoever steals a man and sells him and anyone found in possession of him shall be put to death" like back then its sorta just how it was people took high honor in family and they literally would just give daughters away to go off and get married... was truly a different way of living back then. The point is jesus came and did set all these crazy religious ideologies man had twisted and set a standard.. look into the actual teachings of jesus
@baldwinthefourth4098
@baldwinthefourth4098 5 месяцев назад
You're calling that place a "church"?
@kevinlawrence1582
@kevinlawrence1582 Час назад
The way people talk about this guy I was expecting wwwaaayyy more. Good public speaker and he has charisma but he just dragged out the same old tired arguments I've heard a billion times before. Still not convinced
@jesusiloveyou9337
@jesusiloveyou9337 5 месяцев назад
Jesus was truth and truth to ages
@galemiller7422
@galemiller7422 9 месяцев назад
I'm only at 4th way through this and I'm not sure what this guy's talking about?
@vuho2075
@vuho2075 9 месяцев назад
I never started watching at all and I don't care what he's talking about
@garrethoien6666
@garrethoien6666 8 месяцев назад
That English math guy is worse. Babble
@grrsss8335
@grrsss8335 Год назад
2:38 If the universe had a beginning, that just means it had a beginning, not that there was or is a beginner. The cosmological argument only shows that the universe had to have a start point, not that any being caused the start.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
If it had to have a start it had to have a beginner. I’m a computer programmer and you can’t write code without a coder. Someone has to write the code. The cosmological argument also goes in with the teleological argument which one of the top physicist in the world Stephen Hawking affirms that the universe is highly designed well we know that only persons can make decisions and so we know that through evidence there is many things that are highly designed.
@grrsss8335
@grrsss8335 Год назад
@@dannyreborn Things happen without a mind interfering all the time. DNA is not a code, it is a chemical construct. As far as I am aware, Stephen Hawking never stated he thought the universe was actually designed.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
He affirms the fine tuning of the universe,” if the expansion rate of the Big Bang was one part in thousand, million, million. A second after the Big Bang, the universe would have collapsed or never developed galaxies.” He said the expansion rate started at that point and didn’t evolve to a particular point. So the universe he affirms it to be highly designed
@grrsss8335
@grrsss8335 Год назад
@@dannyreborn We do not actually know if it could have happened any different, We just have a rough Idea of what happened.Even if it could have gone differently, It did not. Neither case, it being able to have gone different or not, shows any evidence of a guiding intelligence.
@kajetantatara2327
@kajetantatara2327 Год назад
@@dannyreborn That is not affirming the fine tuning of the universe. The only thing it does is saying that there is a very small window of optimal expansion rate. He is NOT saying it was in any way set, tinkered with or had any outside influence. And most definitely, NOTHING TO DO WITH DESIGN
@paradisethinkers_ky
@paradisethinkers_ky 3 месяца назад
I think Jesus is not the best or a fair example of good and here is why. He had an advantage over regular people. He is God in the flesh, according to what they say.. and if he isn't then at least he is closer to God than any of us could ever be because he is of the Trinity; the father, the son and the holy Ghost. For him to represent the totem pole of good is flawed for that reason. He is already perfect or else he wouldn't have been able to be the representative of good. What you think? I do like this talk though. I'm diving into spirituality and religion to get a better understanding of them because I feel in my heart I need to live with purpose. Here's a little of myself: I grew up in a Christian home (Presbyterian) but felt disconnected from the church since I was about 13 yo; I am now 30 yo. Ever since then, I started researching everything and getting into rabbit holes especially in the conspiracy world. I reached a place of darkness or emptiness of some sorts and I didn't know where I belonged or what I should do because I felt all could be right and all could be wrong. So I sat in the middle. Now, I still sit in the middle but in a more peaceful manner. I love dark and I love light. I love God and I love Satan. I do not harbour any hate for any deity for I know not what is or who is true or what is or who is false. I love them all because that is what I want to be, love and at peace. For now, this is where I am. Idk where this will lead me but I am flowing with it. I know for certain that connecting with source is crucial. To do so you have to connect with mother nature and find you inner intelligent self, I believe. Flow with what resonates with you. We cannot know light without dark. We cannot know good without evil. We must use the darkness within us to grow the light so I cannot hate anything.
@jmp6943
@jmp6943 10 месяцев назад
Mr. Turek has said in essence, that because God loves us, He will not “force” us to love Him and if we do not want Him, He loves us enough to leave us alone. I reject this view outright BECAUSE Mr. Turek evidently either forgets, ignores or fails to grasp the obvious- God COMMANDS us to love Him! Mr. Turek has used the illustration of a man pursuing a woman who only likes him “as a friend”, but who will not take “No” for an answer. Mr. Turek suggests that IF that man said to the woman “I’m going to force you to love Me”, what would that make the man? Or if the man said to the woman “I command you to love me or else!” But Mr. Turek obviously does not grasp the significance of the “First and greatest COMMANDMENT!” His analogy is thereby obliterated BECAUSE God DOES command us to love Him first and foremost and threatens every person who does not with eternal, conscious torment if they do not! This in NO way makes God capricious, unjust or cruel. It makes Him GOD and right and wrong are what HE says they are! So, Mr. Turek, perhaps your imaginary god does not command people to love him “or else”. But GOD - the living, true, GOD does! So your analogy which I have heard you say to some asking questions, is hereby factually obliterated by the obvious. Priding yourself of your supposed wisdom and knowledge, you have in this regard at least, missed the forrest for the trees!
@blaketetro6293
@blaketetro6293 10 месяцев назад
I think you’re missing something as well. God can not force us to love Him. It’s simply not true love. You only follow the commandments once you’ve accepted Jesus as your savior. You can’t follow anything unless you have a sense of love for it. God calls us to love Him and as well as other. But how can that be if He forces us? I think the analogy that Dr. Turek uses is perfect. God is God but because of His justness and all knowingness He knows true love has to come with free will. Hence why Hell is a place without God. A place you put your self in.
@StruttinStrayCat
@StruttinStrayCat 9 месяцев назад
God isn’t threatening you with hell, He’s warning you that hell is the alternative if you reject God. Where should God put you for eternity? You only have two choices: be with Him or be away from Him. If you reject Him, you’re telling Him you want to be away from Him, and God grants that desire. The reason hell is so bad is because God is not there, and God is good, so there’s no good in hell. Heaven is paradise because it is full of God’s goodness and joy. You’re not understanding that there’s no other good and pleasant place to go that’s also away from God. It’s like being given the option to live on the moon or on Earth, and you choose the moon because you want to be away from Earth. You can’t, then, complain that the moon doesn’t have oxygen and demand that it be a more sustainable place for you to live. You literally REJECTED the place that had the desirable stuff because you wanted to be away from Earth. It’s the same with God and hell. When you want to be away from God, you are rejecting everything that’s good and accepting the place that lacks the desirable stuff. God is not threatening you with hell, as you assert. God is telling you hell has nothing good in it and you’d be better in heaven.
@joeturner9219
@joeturner9219 9 месяцев назад
You're taking it out of context. Yes, God commands us to love Him. But we still have the choice not to. He doesn't force us to do anything. He always commands us not to kill, commit adultery, lie etc but a lot of people still do.
@trumpbellend6717
@trumpbellend6717 5 месяцев назад
​@@StruttinStrayCatBELIEF is NOT *"CHOICE"* or a mere act of volition. Sure someone can pretend to believe anything but the things one actually believe are not something you choose they are an involuntary response to one's level of information and understanding of their environment. You are either convinced or you are unconvinced and its EVIDENCE that convinces. I could not just make myself believe in pixies no matter how much I closed my eyes and stamped my feet. Anymore than you could right now "choose" to be convinced that God is not real or that the laws of gravity don't apply to you if you step off that cliff. Tell me could you genuinely "choose" to believe the internet does not exist and we are not having this discourse now ?? I'm talking about being CONVINCED of it bud not just pretending!! Give me an honest answer , could you right now "Choose" to believe in Thor or Zeus ??? 🤔 No of course not, for exactly the same reason I can't choose to believe in Yahweh. Now if I recieved some irrefutable knowledge or evidence then I would have no "choice" but to believe, I would have to deny my own reasoning and senses. That what changes beliefs, not "choice" If you came home and found your spouse in bed with the neighbour, could you just "CHOOSE" to believe in her fidelity and go back downstairs to make her a nice cup of tea ?? 🤣😅🤣
@StruttinStrayCat
@StruttinStrayCat 5 месяцев назад
@@trumpbellend6717 Evidence doesn’t always convince in the way you assert. People nowadays can be convinced they are the opposite gender, or no gender at all, or some kind of human-animal hybrid, yet all the evidence proves the contrary. People choose to believe they’re healthy when they’re fat, oppressed when they’re privileged, or victims when they’re the victimizers all despite the evidence, and this is proof that people regularly deny reasoning and senses. Look at all the bad choices people make such as smoking, drinking, sleeping around, overeating… all things we just choose to believe are going to make us feel better even though our senses and reasoning tell us otherwise. How many times have you told yourself before doing something unwise, “I know I’m going to regret this later,” and done it anyway? If you haven’t, you know someone who has. The reason you can’t make yourself believe in pixies is because you have no reason to, same with not believing in gravity, the internet, or an unfaithful wife. The evidence for the Bible has been enough for countless people (many very intelligent and wise people, I might add) to choose to believe in God, despite not having the kind of irrefutable, tangible proof of God that skeptics tend to demand. I think you assume that evidence just automatically makes you believe in something all the time, but people regularly look at the same evidence and come to different conclusions, often based on prior beliefs or preferences. I mean, there are actually still flat earthers out there, my guy…
@walterdaems57
@walterdaems57 4 месяца назад
I came to realise that a lot of people on the planet need religion because they lack the intellectual capacity to deal with life in another way. Thinking for yourself is no easy task and believing is so much easier. 1) Some-thing can only come into existence out of a state of no-thing. Otherwise some-thing couldn’t be anything else than every-thing. The state of no-thing on the other hand has the potential to manifest every-thing. Therefore, some-thing and no-thing are of equal value. Not surprisingly the same result is obtained in mathematics but I prefer my own thought via a philosophical approach. Thinking for yourself has proven to be a great way to keep devils, angels, goblins, leprechauns and god(s) at a distance, but that aside. 2) There are good reasons to compare the coming into existence of universes with something we all enjoyably know: ejaculations. Most spermatozoa are destined for the drain and only one amongst the million losses viable. We are living in one of the universes viable for life, probably amongst many failed or disabled universes; hence the absolutely not miraculous fine tuning of our cosmic surroundings. We’re lucky and we are translating our luck, a very common human characteristic, into pride, prejudice and the preposterous idea that a super being is overseeing each of us and sad or happy depending on the position of our hands above or below the sheets. 3) So, the absolute beginning from the very first universe must have started from a very fine tilting point in a state where there was no difference between some- and no-thing. Quantum mechanics has learned us that energy can be borrowed for such a short time that the balance between the two states isn’t affected. Unimaginable stretches of time and evolution have done the rest in a trial, error and rarely, but in view of the incredible time lapses, unavoidable success way. We perceive the end result like a magic trick. Conclude that the pigeon out of the head is pure wizardry until the magician explains every step of the astonishing experience. 4) if an all powerful god existed, why in the name of the one no one should believe in, would that being make the billion of years detour instead of just creating a made and ready universe? Unless you reject the fact, no, no longer the theory, but the fact of evolution. If that’s the case, then you are worshipping a god created or accepted out of pure and maybe even wilful ignorance. 5) if god existed there would be no need to prove his existence because he / she / it would be perceived or at the very least be experienced by believers and non believers alike and since that’s clearly not the case it’s safe to say that god(s) are man made and not the other way around. That’s also why there are approximately, at present, 4.300 religions with matching super bff to suit different cultures, regions and tribes. 6) Seneca, ancient Roman philosopher: ‘for common people religion is true, for wise men false and useful for rulers’. The story of Jesus, his miracles and resurrection Ask 1000 followers of Kenneth Copeland if he can heal the sick, paralysed and disabled. Well, you know the answer. Ask 1000 followers of Copeland if he could resurrect someone from the dead. You know the answer Ask 1000 followers of Copeland if they witnessed a resurrection performed by Copeland and at least 100 will testify on their life and the life of their children that they witnessed a resurrection done by one of the biggest spiritual con men in our day and age. Should give you some idea about the value of testimonials in Jesus time. People turn their wishes into beliefs and from that principle all religions are born. Let's also not forget that resurrections where far from exceptional in the days of the Jesus. I wouldn't go as far as to say: 'one resurrection a day kept the gravedigger away', but still.
@asherpikesgoldenmoralcinem5770
@asherpikesgoldenmoralcinem5770 4 месяца назад
That’s a very interesting approach, I’d like to answer one of your points if that’s okay and I’m interested in your opinion. Answer to 1: I have my own opposing idea of existence. My idea is also based on maths, it’s one of the most well known equations. 1 x 0 = 0. Anything x 0 is 0. Let’s apply this to existence. Existence is 1, non existence is zero. In maths, zero can’t create 1, any 0 multiplied by a number is just zero, also in 0 + 1, mathematically that equation doesn’t exist cause in other words that’s just 1 and the 0 since it’s 0 just falls away leaving 1 and no 0. 0 can’t have “collaboration” with 1. Because if 0 ever multiplied by any number, or if nothingness had any kind of collaboration with existence, for its creation or anything, then the answer would be 0 or in other words reality would cancel. Reality would be destroyed, by the proof of this mathematical equation (0x1=0) it is proven that reality could not have come from nothingness because the equation cancels out existence. Our creation would be destroyed before it begins. So therefore the only possible solution for existence, as crazy as it sounds, is that only existence created existence. It sounds nonsensical, but mathematically it is the only possibility. And another interesting phenomenon that brings up, is that it proves that existence itself is eternal / infinite, since only existence could make existence and any inclusion of non existence would have immediately cancelled out everything as seen in the equation
@walterdaems57
@walterdaems57 4 месяца назад
@@asherpikesgoldenmoralcinem5770 I really appreciate your contribution and I would like to ask you a few questions. Now let me be perfectly clear. I’m very bad with mathematics. What I wrote is the result of thinking and gut feeling. So I don’t ask a question to prove a point, ‘win’ the discussion or with the intention to trap you in a situation where I can shovel my opinion down your throat; techniques often used by theists. Is it mathematically possible that 1 and zero exist simultaneously? If existence can only come out of existence shouldn’t that mean that everything that could exist, has no other option than to exist at the same time? Is it mathematically possible for zero to borrow from 1? Do you have a philosophical, non mathematical, perspective on the matter as a result from mathematics on the back burner and if so what are your thoughts? Thanks in advance
@alejandrojoselizano
@alejandrojoselizano 4 месяца назад
29:52 I don´t have a savior I reject Jesus I reject god.
@gemguy6812
@gemguy6812 10 месяцев назад
Christians hypocrites? No kidding? You expect perfection? Only God is perfect.
@telfairvortex777
@telfairvortex777 Месяц назад
Amen to that..
@ScapeGoat77
@ScapeGoat77 5 месяцев назад
Yes, “right” and “wrong” are absolutely a matter of “personal opinion,” but that’s the point…the OTHER who had the opinion on the matter. It’s ALWAYS your job from “God” to respect their right to exist, as a conscious being who is just as important as you are. It doesn’t mean that there is an all-powerful conscious being that we have to suck up to. In fact, I think Jesus would be offended, if not downright pissed off about what you think he’d appreciate and what you actually mean when you say “God.” …but yeah, it’s been 2,000 years, and no one seems to get what he was saying, and instead, they make it about worshiping the idea of power above everything else…which is was exactly what Abraham did when he was gonna brutally murder his kid because he thought “The Almighty” was telling him to do so. It’s gross. These power worshipers are not just “praying” in the spirit world, but they’re definitely on their knees. 🤘🤮
@ScapeGoat77
@ScapeGoat77 5 месяцев назад
The purpose to the game, for YOU, is to learn to love something more than yourself. If you can’t do that, you can’t get out, Mr. Tired, “God” SAYS SO!!!
@sarabee7710
@sarabee7710 5 месяцев назад
What the hell are you on about?
@trumpbellend6717
@trumpbellend6717 5 месяцев назад
. Tell me dear is your OPINION regarding the "correct" God who's allegedly the basis for morality a "SUBJECTIVE" one or a "OBJECTIVE" one ?? 🙄 Can we use *ANY* "God" as the basis for this "objective" moral standard you speak of or just the SPECIFIC SUBJECTIVE invisible being *YOU* determined to be the "correct" one out of the many thousands man has preposed.? 🙄 🤔 If its the latter then in actuality its *YOU* and YOUR SUBJECTIVE OPINION that is determining morality dear. if its the former, then asserting objectivity to any moral claim based upon a "God" becomes a completely vacuous useless concept 👍 The claim that theistic morality is somehow "objective" is ridiculous. Theists are merely substituting their own subjective moral standards with the morals standards of the god they subjectively determine represents the "correct objective" morality. 🙄🤔 Is killing "just" if it's carried out by people believing it is instructed by a subjective invisible God or only if its the specific subjective invisible God *YOU* determined to be the "correct" one ?? 🤔
@ScapeGoat77
@ScapeGoat77 5 месяцев назад
I’m sick of people believing trash. That’s what the hell I’m on about.
@grrsss8335
@grrsss8335 Год назад
3:45 Take out the "babies" and the "For fun" bit and you will have my view on torture. Why do you have the qualifier of "For Fun?" for torturing babies Turek? Do you think there are legitimate reasons to torture babies? Do you think there is legitimate reasons to torture?
@disarray8094
@disarray8094 Год назад
what a pathetic argument
@NomadicDevineEast1999
@NomadicDevineEast1999 11 месяцев назад
Most of what he was saying is the truth but... Often times I've heard people bring up the story of Paul to justify the sinful life they are already living. And resulting in no real change because they end up comparing and living up to "Paul's standards" or way of thinking instead of Jesus standards. Paul was just one of many men that tried to follow Christ but he was weak. It would be unjust for God to set standards for us if we could not live by them. There were many other men that God chose that didn't have the issues Paul had. There are many lessons in his story that people tend to overlook... But powerful discussion! ❤😊
@DartNoobo
@DartNoobo 10 месяцев назад
And what is the story of Paul? He repented, didn't he? Ofc he was weak, just like all apostles and any christian, because we have got ain inside us. But Paul didn't let his sin to tell him what to do. Yeah, he was sad about his imperfections and weaknesses,but that doesn't mean he was living in sin. Paul's example is the worst if someone wants to justify their unrepentanse
@grrsss8335
@grrsss8335 Год назад
2:50 there is no evidence that demonstrates design. Not that I am aware of. Plenty that there was no design.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
The size and distance of the moon if that were changed slightly we would cease to exist. Scientists refer to us as in the Goldilocks zone. Not too far away to were we would freeze and not to close to were we would burn up. We are “just right” earths rotational axis if that were changed slightly we would cease to exist. Jupiter attracts all the cosmic asteroids to it rather then us and acts as a cosmic vacuum cleaner and “if the expansion rate of the universe was one part in a thousand, million, million, a second after the Big Bang. The universe would have collapsed or never developed galaxies. The universe is highly designed and most physicists and athiest affirm this.
@grrsss8335
@grrsss8335 Год назад
@@dannyreborn the moon used to be closer and is drifting away slowly. We have no way of knowing if the constants of the universe could have been different and if they could have been different it still does not show a creator, just that we got lucky. The only people I know of who say that the universe is designed are creationist who ignore the actual science.
@dannyreborn
@dannyreborn Год назад
@@grrsss8335 Stephen hawking doesn’t even believe in God and he affirms the fine tuning of the universe. So I take it you disagree with one of the top physicists of all time. Many other physicists as well that’s why it’s called the fine tuning of the universe. Because people didn’t just come up with it actual physicists did.
@bluex.1016
@bluex.1016 Год назад
@@grrsss8335 bro if u buy a small forest wants to convert it into a finely tuned garden u need a gardener to make it and watch over it. Without a gardener if u think that nature will convert this forest into a garden for me it is a delusion bro
@arkcritic6080
@arkcritic6080 Год назад
@@bluex.1016 So... god is the gardener and he has a boss?
@paulhaynes3688
@paulhaynes3688 4 месяца назад
No it does not what a ridiculous statement
@guybusby5583
@guybusby5583 6 месяцев назад
You are so right sir
@robtruax7640
@robtruax7640 11 месяцев назад
If your God needs this video to give arguments for its existence is self-evident that you are making up your god. I want a god who does not need a person like Frank to demonstrate itself
@realtalkwithphil
@realtalkwithphil 7 месяцев назад
You “want” is different from “It is” Expecting God to reveal Himself to you based on how you “want” only decreases the value of God in your expectations. Even a President won’t come to your house to prove he is President in physical just because you want him to.
@robtruax7640
@robtruax7640 7 месяцев назад
@@realtalkwithphil so, “it is” means the god you worship actually doesn’t reveal himself to anyone but relies on humans to make arguments. This means you don’t actually know the god you worship but merely understand how others have taught you to think about the god you worship.
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