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Dr Franklin meets himself - Babylon 5 

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The end result of Dr. Franklin's walkabout. From Season 3 Episode 21, "Shadow Dancing".

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@Quincy111
@Quincy111 4 года назад
When I was a kid I never thought much of these scenes till years later when my life hit rock bottom.
@samanthapatrick4345
@samanthapatrick4345 3 года назад
I hope you're doing a lot better now, take care
@MichaelGaribaldi
@MichaelGaribaldi 3 года назад
As a recovering alcoholic, I loved that scene. That's how I would imagine meeting myself would be like!
@Alknix
@Alknix 4 года назад
I think every one of us needs a mean, abrasive version of ourselves to kick the verbal shit out of us from time to time.
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 3 года назад
I'm convinced that was one of Morden's Shadow companions taking pity on Franklin in the way of his people. JMS has dropped a number of clues to suggest that might be the case. Starting with the posture of the pseudo-Franklin which has a lot of subtle elements of the mantis-like Shadows Also, note how the other Franklin asked "what do you want?" and when Franklin had an answer, immediately jumped off the fence and began forcing him to fight for his own life. Forces him to grow and evolve so he gets what he wants.
@Yonatan_Max
@Yonatan_Max 3 года назад
@@hagamapama "What do you want?"
@magnummagpie8792
@magnummagpie8792 3 года назад
There was a malfunction, mine won't stop kicking me
@Yuurei21
@Yuurei21 4 года назад
3:14 the moment you look death in eye and with every once of your spirit you say, "I will not break!"
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 4 года назад
3:01 This Franklin duplicate was a Shadow being as nice as their people could be. Franklin asked for help and he got help -- from a Shadow. Instead of direct help, the Shadow pushed Franklin to evolve and help himself. He asked "what do you want?"
@peterstewart7332
@peterstewart7332 3 года назад
You know, I don't know if that was the intent, but damn if I can't unsee it now.
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 3 года назад
@@peterstewart7332 Oh there's plenty of evidence that this was intentional. Starting with the shadowy ambiance of the hallway. Also with how this Franklin-copy carried himself, the bearing of the copy is reminiscent of the mantis-like Shadows at several points. I kinda like the thought though, that Shadows can be kind. And yes, this Shadow was being kind. If he'd tried to interfere directly to save Franklin he'd have become a target, so instead he helped in the Shadow way, by goading, provoking and forcing Franklin to fight for his own life until he was safe.
@midnightmilo
@midnightmilo 3 года назад
@@peterstewart7332 hagmapama is correct it is a shadow, it's meant to demonstrate how they achieve results by not letting people dwell on their failures but try prod them into achieving more. It's where you start to notice the vorlons aren't wholly 'good' and the shadows aren't wholly 'evil'. Notice that franklin doesn't start getting up till he sets a goal 'i wanna do it all again' he accepts the choices he made good and bad but still wants to live, he isn't prepared to die. That crucially introduces the shadow question, with the shadow asking 'what do you want' after that as franklin gets up the shadow franklin doesn't talk about past failures but makes him focus on the goal ('get up!'). The shadow can't interfere, it can't heal him or help him, but it can prod him till he heals himself.
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 3 года назад
Exactly. That's what I love about this series, you can watch it 20 times and something still pops up that makes you go "Wait a minute!"
@saadansari9965
@saadansari9965 3 года назад
holy shit
@Darkmind900
@Darkmind900 6 лет назад
Another reason why Babylon 5 is one of the best shows during the 90's.
@arralartathi
@arralartathi 3 года назад
You misspelled "of all time".
@HighLordBlazeReborn
@HighLordBlazeReborn 7 лет назад
Man, this was a good scene
@doom7ish
@doom7ish 5 лет назад
The moment you hallucinate yourself and have existential Crisis.
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 4 года назад
Franklin wasn't hallucinating. The key is at 3:01. He asked for help and he got it -- from a Shadow. We know Shadows were on the station from time to time. This one heard Franklin and took an interest. JMS was subtly demonstrating that the Vorlons don't have a monopoly on kindness.
@jackspry9736
@jackspry9736 25 дней назад
RIP Richard Briggs (March 18, 1960 - May 22, 2004), aged 44 You will be remembered as a legend
@samadrana6816
@samadrana6816 16 дней назад
I absolutely loved Richard Biggs portrayal of Dr Stephen Franklin & his vulnerabilities, flaws and humanity on Babylon 5 ❤ RIP
@xxFortunadoxx
@xxFortunadoxx 4 месяца назад
"And don't you go passing out on me cuz that's just another kind of runnin away." lmao
@briscoejr1
@briscoejr1 5 лет назад
RIP, Rick Biggs!
@warriorking9262
@warriorking9262 Год назад
He's dead? Wtf I didn't know that
@warriorking9262
@warriorking9262 Год назад
How?
@warriorking9262
@warriorking9262 Год назад
When?
@briscoejr1
@briscoejr1 Год назад
@@warriorking9262 My understanding... Aortic aneurysm... Blood clot got to his heart...
@briscoejr1
@briscoejr1 Год назад
@@warriorking9262 Back in 2004... Too many actors from that show have passed...Zathras, Sinclair, Garibaldi, DeLenn,, Allen, Vir, and too many others.... So many wonderful artists...
@samadrana6816
@samadrana6816 5 лет назад
Dr Franklin is a boss 😎
@georgekhoshtariya8458
@georgekhoshtariya8458 5 лет назад
Dear Dr. Franklin's subconscious, please stop using my line. Signed: Mr. Morden
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 4 года назад
So you picked up on it but didn't realize that that was an actual Shadow helping Franklin. All the signs are there.
@joannamcdee9061
@joannamcdee9061 Год назад
He was such a good actor! And so pretty to boot!
@BlueBoy0
@BlueBoy0 4 года назад
Gollum vs. Smeagol
@timothydavidcurp
@timothydavidcurp 2 года назад
A little bit of motivational self-talk can do wonders.
@observer2484
@observer2484 Год назад
Especially when the voice is yours.
@KentrYT
@KentrYT 5 лет назад
Someone get that man a dogtor.
@mrtencza
@mrtencza 4 года назад
I need a walkabout.
@banananotebook3331
@banananotebook3331 2 года назад
I wish I saw this scene about 5 years ago... I did the same thing, running away from it all, trying to find myself, and walking until I met myself. I'm still living with the consequences of it.
@MrMBP1980
@MrMBP1980 Год назад
Sorry man. Hope things are getting better.
@banananotebook3331
@banananotebook3331 Год назад
@@MrMBP1980 Thanks. I feel more like Dr. Franklin every day now, though I'm now at the 'pick up where we left off' stage of life, though the demons are still there. I wish B5 addressed that part more. For anyone out there who is struggling: if you think you need help, it doesn't hurt to call a mental health hotline. Sometimes, it's just good to have someone to talk to, and they can usually help you navigate low-cost therapy options.
@masterofrockets
@masterofrockets 3 года назад
That moment you hallucinate Jordan Peterson
@47imagine
@47imagine Год назад
If I saw Jordan Peterson, I'd give up and die.
@anastasiosgkotzamanis5277
@anastasiosgkotzamanis5277 3 года назад
-I want to do it again! Stereo MCs reference.
@Splub
@Splub 5 лет назад
I wonder if they intended this to be a Shadow related thing.
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 4 года назад
Almost definitely. It's typical JMS. This is a Shadow that heard Franklin's cries to help and drove him to evolve and better himself. He couldn't help directly because his kind were regarded with suspicion and fear, so instead, the Shadow did what it did best to get Franklin some help -- forced him to evolve, gave him the strength of anger and got him to where he needed to be so he could get what he wants.
@Splub
@Splub 4 года назад
@@hagamapama It's too bad they didn't follow up on it.
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 4 года назад
@@Splub I think it's brilliant that they didn't. That way there's still something for us to argue over 30 years after the end of the show. Having this many nuggets still waiting to be discovered this long after the show goes live is just more evidence of JMS's genius
@Splub
@Splub 4 года назад
@@hagamapama Mystery is always appreciated.
@timothydavidcurp
@timothydavidcurp 2 года назад
@@hagamapama I prefer to think this as Franklin meeting his own shadow side rather than it being an alien - but either approach works.
@ganados0
@ganados0 Год назад
Be a hoot if this was Ulkesh, the Vorlon ambassador, reaching out.
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 3 месяца назад
It wasn't. I honestly think that this was a Shadow. It's not set in s tone, but there's some evidence that this duplicate might be a shadow. Note the way he crouches, which is reminiscent of the Mantis like shadows. Note the reaction to franklin saying what he wants. The methods of this doppelganger are also moderately Shadow like, forcing Franklin to strive, grow and evolve, and providing encouragement while not directly interfering. Before the great war the Shadows were more or less benevolent, but believed in the freedom of the younger races. they wanted the younger races to develop on their own, to grow with encouragement but not direct intervention. They opposed the Vorlons who sought to force morality on the younger races instead. the Shadows became more corrupted over time, and we do have to remember that a lot of what we think we know about the Shadows came from the Vorlons, but I like to imagine that a few Shadows still stick to the old ways. that they were not completely reduced to cartoon villain status. That there were a handful of benevolent Shadows left. Similar to Kosh not exactly being a model Vorlon.
@martinmanifold2241
@martinmanifold2241 Год назад
Choose lemonade
@user-xq5ow2vi6o
@user-xq5ow2vi6o 8 месяцев назад
3 21
@50jakecs
@50jakecs 3 года назад
I'm sorry the walkabout storyline was dumb and it slowed down the pace of the episode.
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