Dr. Joy DeGruy talks about the power of connecting with young people and how we win in this current climate. There is also a discussion about #Reparations. #PostTraumaticSlaveSyndrome #KarenHunterShow (PLEASE SUBSCRIBE, LIKE and SHARE)
I left America at 19, I'm from the projects in the South Bronx, I went to college in Rome and NEVER came back. Many of us are leaving going to Africa. Wherever you go anywhere is better than staying in the US
Dr. DeGruy is a life giver, because she says what needs to be said to set the record straight regarding our plight. Any thinking being in "The Hood" looks around and sees something is awry, something is underdeveloped, something has been skewed. And we also know that it's not entirely Black people's fault. This had to come from somewhere. Dr. Joy DeGruy looks beyond the effect and delves deeply into the cause. This is why she is a treasure, perhaps more than she even knows.
As a social worker, Dr. DeGruy is one of my heroes. I have owned PTSS, quoted it, and have educated many folk for the decade that she has been on my radar.
PTSS is a justification for the dysfunctional behavior and the violence found in the black community . It's the result of generational trauma , ( caused by slavery )being passed down to African Americans and excusing their violence in society . If this is true , then we must find the 5 black officers innocent for killing Tyre Nichols . After all aren't these 5 officers not responsible for their actions due to Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome .
@Steven Smith no, because thoughts and behaviors are different. No one can hold you responsible for your thoughts and emotions, that's why you get help in the form of therapy. But, society can, and does, absolutely hold you responsible for your behaviors. You're an adult. Adults don't act on every feeling they have when they have it.
Professor Karen, you keep raising the bar and I am here for it. My mamma was an older mother and I was teased a lot growing up because my mamma was older. Having babies at a very young age was something that was praised when I was younger. Waiting until you are older to have a child was frowned upon Professor Karen. I love what Dr. DeGruy sound about learned helplessness. There are Black people who demonize another Black people for leaving the hood, it is seen as anti-Black. I see anti-Black as telling a Black person they should not better themselves is very anti-Black and these messages are coming directly from US. We criminalize each other for just doing better. Thank you Professor Karen for this great segment.
You know this got to be the ancestors. I JUST finished seeing an infamous pic of Kanye and Candice wearing "white lives matter" shirts. *deep sigh* Then saw black high school football players participating in a mock slave auction. I was trying to find a words for what some of us were going thru. Post traumatic slave syndrome is what we going thru.
When Dr. Degruy was talking about learned helplessness I can’t help but think of the door of no return. That’s where our learned helplessness started. 😢 Epigenetic
When my grandson became a teenager, I told my daughter that he needs to know not just that you love him but that you respect him. I got that from Dr. Joy 😊.
I'm a 49 year old man and today October 23 2023 is the first time I've seen or heard of this great Woman,and I'm already WOWWED by the little I saw...I saw a tik tok with a snippet of a lecture and immediately started my research... although in my heart I knew the things she spoke about ,raping ,killing and lynching of slaves, black people ,etc ,I did not know that these heinous acts were ,on paper "legal" ..thank you Prof Degruy for your continued work....it is much appreciated..just proves that we are never too old to learn, never.
"Would you be my Mom, too?" Dag, of all the things I expected to tug at my heart in this conversation, this one has me weeping. Blessings to Dr. DeGruy and that Mama and Daughter. ❤🙏🏿
I could listen to this fabulous woman for hours, but I know she'd prefer for me to take action instead. Everything she says is so profoundly true and reaches us deeply if we but pay attention. I hate the term "master" teacher but we are sitting at the foot of greatness here.
Also, our young people seem just as color struck as the older folk. I can't tell you how many tiktoks I've seen by young black men degrading dark-skinned girls as loud and rude while their lighter skinned cohorts are more refined. It's disappointing. I can only imagine the environments in which they were raised.
That is ignorance and self hatred....it reminds me of the white doll black doll experiment conducted by the late black psychologist Dr. Kenneth Clark, where little black girls were so ashamed of themselves, they refused to play with the black doll because it was ugly. They played with the white doll because they considered it pretty.
I will say it if no one else will. We don't need the overseer as a physical person anymore. The overseer is in our heads and we are still slaves in our heads. We think, live and react as slaves today. We still talk of freedom. Ask a foreigner, especially from Africa what freedom is. After they finish laughing they will tell you you wouldn't understand, you are still slaves in your own country. That should speak volumes to you. Playing the race card on your own is just as stupid as the white man doing it. The body goes where the mind leads. Pick yourselves up, not by bootstraps, but by our accomplishments, by where you came from and what you've been through. By the many who have died for our causes. We're not done!
My mother used to constantly use that quote about co-opted Black leaders, how they "came in to do good, but ended up just doing well." She made sure we understood that. [12:39 juncture]
That learned helplessness is like the lions who wouldn't leave the cage, even after it was gone. This was the best, Prof. Hunter; so glad to be a Knubian, because it boils over! And Dr. DeGruy, what you did w/those young men - acknowledge them - is what I always do when I run across some to encourage. We should all be that smart.
Dr. DeGruy just brings her expertise like family, so relatable and digestable........she's been on my faves list for many years and inspite of the tough subject matter I still manage to find joy through Joy's delivery ❣️
You get so busy doing the neverending work that you forget you missed certain voices. Right on time Prof. Hunter. I remember the push back from Black Male voices too. Let's talk about how totally difficult it is to be activated after hearing /reading these truths only to turn to your family, your community to share it with them, to live it with them, to conduct "people activity" with them in the community and run only into stone cold BRICK. There's a whole other level of trauma in that. Grateful to see this Esteemed Elder Mother appear before us POWERFUL & WHOLE still. We can do this. Thank you. #reactivated
Professors Hunter and Dr. DeGruy...your beautiful spirits and passion for our people ❤ lift my heart and mind to such heights. I have been following you both for years. This interview brings me to tears. It feels vital and long overdue. I look forward to hearing more from you together. Your combined power and intellect are the prototype for us all. Thank you for your beautiful presence.
Prof Hunter, I didn't think it could get better than you, and Dr. Carr(much love and respect to Dr. Carr), buuuut...Prof Hunter, and Dr. DEGRUY?? It's CLOBBERING TIME!😆
Thank you so much for this interview. I hadn't seen any recent interviews with Dr. DeGruy for a while. Now I know why; she's been in the trenches doing the work.
Dr Joy is definitely a Titan among critical thinkers I was introduced to her work before the pandemic and Dove head first in during the pandemic and it's fitting that she would end up on the Karen Hunter podcast thank you love it!!!
Read the book and found it so enlightening. Helped me understand lot of things and gave practical advice to heal. I have recommended the book many times
This is one off the most thought provoking discussion, I worked with tweens and teens for years and if you take the time to talk, they don't like the position of the world they are living in and they have aspirations, but not many people to help them grow know generation of survivors to help them navigate this thing call surviving in blackness .I will get the book I'm 66 and raising a 6 year old my adopted child, I am trying to give her a replica of my life growing up.the village and basic safety structures.
Wow.. This interview was emotional and moving for me. Especially when she spoke about talking to the group of young men coming from school. Love love Dr.Joy.. Her name fits her well. Thanks Sis Hunter.(The cleanest glass of water on these airways). Love you 🙏🏾
Dr. Joy is my shero! I have her book on Posttraumatic Slave Syndrome and it is so prolific! As a doctoral student, I look up to her and I am so grateful for her work in the social sciences and for the culture.
That last bit was so impactful. She really hit on the importance of community and how it is lacking today. We really need to focus inward and see our youth as the future, the leaders of tomorrow.
Appreciate the discussion! Evanston cannot be considered reparations though since you don't have to be a descendant of slavery to qualify, and not all descendants there will receive the vouchers. We cannot just label any and everything reparations. That's like saying Afirmative Action is reparations. Finally finished watching and Dr. DeGruy was just amazing as ever! Stumbling upon PTSS years ago changed my way of thinking back then by just confirming that I wasn't crazy and by validating my/our lived experiences. So happy to see her still dropping knowledge and everything else that was said during this whole show was on point!
I read Dr. Degruy's book after watching her video. I love this conversation. There was a time when grandparents were considered old and had a head full of grey hair. I know of 30 something year old grandparents and young men's OG in their twenties. Not that young people can not be wise, but we lost a generation of wisdom. And there are a lot of reasons as to why. This is awesome! ❤️
Another phenomenal black woman! I first met Dr. DeGruy when I worked at First Interstate Bank (Portland, OR) in 1987. The bank brought her in to do some "Affirmative Action" training. I learned a lot about people culturally and environmentally. Wait 'til y'all learn the true beginnings of the Statue of Liberty. Like Dr. Carr, and Professor Hunter, Dr. Joy DeGruy is a national treasure.
Learned helplessness is why we must be very careful with how much of the public lynchings and injustice we consume. It creates "hopelessness " and "learned helplessness " that will cause us to "lay down" and not progress or turn to toxic entertainment and abusive substances to temporarily give us mental and emotional relief. "The system is working exactly the way it was designed to work". Stay vigilant. Don't give up!✊🏾 And make it a priority to pass the wealth, warnings and wisdom to the next generation.
"Your projection of our violence is yours." Deep and truth. They have a savage history towards us. I purchased PTSS some time ago and have been reading it in doses to give myself time to process it. I am so appreciative of Dr. Degruy and her work. Thank you Karen for having her on as I guest. I hope that she does become a regular light on your show.
My son gave me a bootleg DVD (around 10 yrs. ago) called 'Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome by Dr. DeGruy' , he thought I might find interesting 🤔 It TOTALLY Blew my Mind!!!!! 🤯It was like my Spirit/Soul & Mind suddenly Connected... I was so depressed & confused at the time, but after watching this blurry video, (I usually refused to watch any bootleg disc) but this message had reached deep into my being & sent me down a rabbit hole of information that still hasn't stopped; Dr. Joy DeGruy is my SHERO ❤
Dr. DeGruy’s interview was enlightening because it joined psychological and sociological theories that have served to maintain the status quo. We have revitalize our desire to leave a legacy of greatness behind. My elders (cousins) were always willing to share their stories of accomplishments and challenges with me. It can still work. “We got this!”
Another match made on Earth!! Can you spend Sunday's with Dr. DeGruy like you spend Saturday's with Dr. Carr?? Just thinking on RU-vid... love you both!!
The show got me in my bedroom saying Amen Amen Amen yessssssss Joy comes in the morning! Leaving this conversation feeling mentally well and spiritually well in some sense thank you both
I knew a woman who told me after many years of asking her why she doesn't move out of a dangerous community she was living in, that we both grew up in, there were times when we would be talking on the phone and she would scream for me to hold on only to find out later she was dropping to the floor because people were shooting outside her house, after many years of repeatedly asking her why she hasnt moved away from there she finally said its because she didnt think she could make it anywhere else, I met her in 1987 this is 2022 and shes still in that same house and still ducking bullets, I had moved away long ago. Bobby Womack said this in his song called "Across 110th Street" he mentions how "families on the other side of town would catch hell without a ghetto around" Dr Degruy is right when she says this mentality is from being conditioned, trained not to want to even try to leave, that is for SOME because like she and I and I'm sure many of us knew better and wanted better than the conditions they constructed for our people. Professor Hunter, thank you for doing this show, please have Dr Degruy back on real soon so this process of enlightenment can continue, we eat it up because we need it ❤
I am working on my capstone/dissertation on microaggressions against Black women in the workplace and everything that Dr. DeGruy discussed plays a role in how Black women are treated in the workplace. It’s so much to digest and I’m struggling with how to include all of this in my final paper. The truth needs to be told and not watered down to appease those in power.
Ummmm....Ok....See, I just absolutely, positively, love these two women. Why? Because they inspire me to be the best black man/Afrikan man, that I can be. Seeing them in action, lets me know that our governance structure is alive, well, and growing. What this right here is, is the divine feminine principle incarnate. Thank you, sisters, for your wisdom and guidance. Thank you for being with us and one of us. We have work to do and we will do it together in our collective. Ase’
I encourage the study guide. I bought this book some while ago. The study guide I got from the college. I have not read the whole book. I keep going back to it I am still waiting for you Dr DeGruy put it on auditable version. She had mention this on her live that she was doing during the pandemic. Thank you Professor Hunter.
WOW!!! Professor Hunter we would love ❤️ the idea 💡 "In Class with Dr Joy DeGru " , please somehow someway include in the Knarrative/Knubia community. This subject matter is so relative, it helps connect the dots. I was able to get my better half to watch this episode with me and again WOW!!!!.1976 till now, to make a long story short we've survived this oppression. 3 adult daughters, 4 grandchildren and now 1great granddaughter and so blessed that I'm able to sustain the idea of "Governance Structure ".Professor Karen Hunter I appreciate you and Knarrative/Knubia. Solid foundation. Thanks a million.
Dr DeGruy you are definitely brilliant and you have your finger on the pulse of the problem facing black people and black youth in particular. Listen to the kids. My sentiment exactly!
Professor Hunter! I have been waiting for this interview with you. The two of you together is fire! I experienced some of her lessons during a two day session with Santa Clara County, California. It was so illuminating on so many levels! I can recall a bit of her story about the Statue of Liberty and how it was actually dedicated to represent the elimination of slavery. How this "brown lady" was to have broken chains in one hand. Of course, all of that changed. That hand holds a book/tablet with July 4, 1776 inscribed on it. Dr. DeGruy fought to learn more about what happened to the chains. They decided the broken chains should be at her ankle/feet. Not easily seen on first glance. I never learned THIS history in school.
Everyone in the world needs to hear this conversation. Thank you for posting the whole conversation Prof Hunter. Love you both. Knubia and refill. Come get this clean glass of water yall. You look thirsty.
Karen you are on it and truly a gem to our community. Your interviews are so uplifting and refreshing in the era of chaos. Keep up the great work. Now I’m tuning into Urban View. Listener since 2014!
Greetings family. Having Dr. Joy on the island country of Bermuda in 2006, helped our black community to begin the school of Afrikan Learning to become something to be taken seriously. But, as per usual, the powers that be ignored the importance after years of struggling to keep the school going. But, I will never ever forget listening to this light bulb moment PTSS giving “ learned helplessness” a name and now realizing it’s C.A.I.D. Coined by Dr Clyde Winters. Thank you Prof Hunter for having our Sistah on your platform ( even though it took 25 years) here she is. I’m sharing this conversation. “It ain’t over til we win”❤
I love love love Dr. Joy Degruy!!!! She was the first person I quoted in my dissertation using her book post traumatic slave disorder. This woman is 🔥🔥🔥🔥. Professor Hunter thank you for always striving for excellence in everything you do. Salute to you , sis🙌🏽🙌🏽💪🏽💪🏽💗💗
I just stumbled across your channel this is a great interview so much knowledge. All the obstacles place in our way. It almost seems impossible to deal with. And the saddest part is the black church adds to our problem by encouraging not taking responsibility. Waiting for someone else to solve our problems
