I picked up on that also, and thought " omg that man is genuine, humble and a great human " I don't know if i had apologized to be honest with you, not just right after
@@cooper7031 well ya but he is just that nice. It's always the parents that are nice and incredibly self aware that seem to loose thier kids. It's horrible.
I watch a lot of true crime, so I'm pretty desensitized, but this case disturbed the hell out of me. Skylar's father breaks my heart every time I see him interviewed.
Same here. For me I guess it's because it was so senseless and done by her closest friends. I couldn't imagine the fear and confusion that went through Skylar's mind. I feel so bad for the parents, especially the father. Everytime he talks about it you can feel the sadness, hurt, pain and rage in his voice.
Same!! I have been into the criminal justice world for a LONG time!! But this one made me sick and I cried so hard for this beautiful girl lost her life by her BEST FRIENDS!!!! And her parents are so devastated!! Ugh it hurts so much to see their pain and knowing that I can’t take it away!!
I feel so bad for Chrissy who can’t understand that Shelia is a psycho. The day it was announced Skylars body was found; she tweeted “WORST DAY OF MY WHOLE LIFE. THE PAIN IS REAL. REST EASY SKYLAR, YOU’LL ALWAYS BE MY BEST FRIEND.” That is psychopath to try to manipulate people
I get that Shelia is her cousin but I would be just disgusted and be like what the fuck is wrong with you? Makes me wonder if she knew how toxic the friendship between the three of them was becoming or if she just believed whatever bullshit that came out of Shelia’s mouth. I just can’t help to think this whole tragedy could of been avoided if Skylar just cut ties with these sick fake bitchs and focused on developing closer friendships with people that actually genuinely cared about her and wanted to spend time with her. I am in no way saying that Skylar’s death was her own fault because it wasn’t I am sure in her mind when she snuck out that night that she was murdered I am sure she was under the impression that in addition to going to smoke weed with Rachel and Shelia that they were going to talk about the issues between them in their friendship with each other and try to work things out. Unfortunately it didn’t go down that way. I just hope to god neither of these two sick evil fake bitches get out of prison and I still don’t understand why Rachel wasn’t given life in prison like Shelia was because she should have been given life in prison just like Shelia was. I don’t get how just because she had a guilty come to Jesus moment and finally decided to tell the truth about what happened to Skylar after months of both her and Shelia repeatedly lying to police, Skylars family, and other friends about what happened to Skylar somehow warrants her a lesser sentence because it shouldn’t. She committed the same crime as Shelia therefore she should be given the same sentence as Shelia and the fact that she described what she and Shelia did at her parole hearing this past year which was thankfully denied as immature proves that she really doesn’t get it. Blowing off studying for a test by going to a party and getting drunk is immature. Planning to murder someone who you no longer like and want to be friends with but don’t want to reveal something personal about you that in the gram scheme of things wouldn’t have mattered is fucking psychotic. Maybe she would or wouldn’t have told people about Shelia’s and Rachel’s lesbian relationship with each other who gives a fuck whether she would or wouldn’t have. Life goes on and that in no way justifies you taking someone else’s life. Your personal reputation is not at someone else’s expense and I hope it was worth spending what willl likely be the rest of their life in prison. Even if they do somehow manage to get released someday which hopefully they won’t ever be. I don’t know too many people who will want to hire or have anything to do with two convicted murderers unless they’re just fucked up in the head.
That’s why she can’t understand, she’s not a psycho, she’s innocent and young naive, but she’s been manipulated and invaded by a psychopath. Her inability to see it is proof of the extent of that girls psychopathy.
Yes!!!! It's still very hard to process. I can only imagine what her parents are still going through. That's a terrible way to die and, from my understanding, she kept asking them why while they were stabbing her. Sickening...
This story has always haunted me . The betrayal and fear that little girl must have felt and the heart break her parents must feel I just cannot imagine having to always think about how scared your baby must have been .
I no that poor girls last thoughts were why and she must have been so shocked and betrayed and not understanding why her 2 best friends are stabbing her .watching the life drain from her..so sad and horrific. those 2 girls are just evil..feel so bad for the parents..they are absolutely distraught.god bless them r.i.r skylar
When Skylars Dad starting crying how he wanted Skylar back. It broke my heart. I felt so sorry for him and I cant imagine the pain he is going through.
😮 - the girls wanted to get away with this. I'm sorry but Shelia 😅😮should get exactly what she gets. My name is Rachael. I'm Shammed to share the same name. It's up to God now. May God have mercy on there's souls
My heart goes out to these parents. I'm a mother of 2 daughters ages 12 and 17 and if anything I mean anything were to happen to them I'd have no idea what I'd do without them. Those poor parents.
@@brooklynbennett73 … I know this comment wasn’t addressed to me but as a parent of teenagers it’s scary because at a certain age you have to start giving your teenagers some freedom but it’s a fine line to walk .. enough freedom must be given do your child experiences what they need to experience to help them on their way to be well rounded young adults but too much freedom can put them in danger and maybe in the wrong crowd . The worry of the social media culture is also scary for parents. Teenagers sometimes think they know everything and are capable of always making the right decision when in fact they haven’t had the life experience to do this. I remember as a teenager thinking when I have kids I’m going to let them go places and stay out late with their friends because my parents were quite strict but your thinking changes when you become a parent yourself all you want to do is protect your kids. This is just my opinion from a parents perspective.
@@brooklynbennett73 It's a while since I was a teenager, I'm now old enough to be a parent of a teenager, but I can remember that I went through a learning curve of becoming more worldly wise, and about assessing different situations and people. I had to run away from a few people, and learnt to gauge the rather worrying intense look that some people can have when they're 'not quite right', slightly psycho or unempathetic. Don't always listen so much to what people say, but look for warmth in their eyes or a lack of it, and listen to your gut feelings, the truly decent people have a softness to them. It's fine 'to be boring' and to go home, there's 6 or 7 decades of adulthood ahead. :-)
This case is heartbreaking! Her parents grief is palpable and soul crushing. She was so young. They say you only truly die after people stop remembering and saying your name. I have never forgotten Skylar’s name or her story. I hope her parents can find some peace and know that she is remembered by a lot of people. She was a beautiful soul inside and out. Her parents did a wonderful job raising her.💔😪❤️
When I saw this case I sat down with one of my sons that was just so freaking sweet and told him not to go in the woods with some of his friends. It seemed for a while that some of the boys resented him because he was so kind. We lived in the country and I told him he was not allowed unless his brother was there. I swear I had nightmares for months after this story. This story just broke my heart. That said they are all now 25 and best friends. The boys now seem to appreciate that he is the "best" of all of them.
parenting is so scary.. we don't just have to worry about our kids but we have to worry about other people's kids to! who knows maybe you prevented something from happening to your son in the woods. I doubt it would of been murder but you could of prevented your son from being involved in some type of horrible accident. sometimes going with our gut and being overly cautious is the best thing to do.
@@thetruepatriot7733 Thank you for the comment. I think you have a great point about following your gut. When the boys were about 5 I would take them fishing. Stopped at a place wanted a new place asked if anyone knew. Everyone in the bait shop said no. Outside these two guys stopped me and told me of a place. I was naïve enough to think they were being kind. Started driving ended up on a road where I couldn't even turn around. Got a really bad feeling. Backed my SUV up, took down some small trees, bumper hanging off and floored it getting out of there. Meet those two guys on a road only for one car, went up on the side and escaped. Went to the police they found the guys both had warrants. Thank goodness I followed my gut feeling. That said, like you commented, we as parent may be wrong. Sometimes safer is better than sorry. And you are right, parenting can be one of the scariest times of our lives!
I agree. You hear how the families saw how they forgive the people that have killed or did really bad stuff to our kids. I think I am a good person but I don't think I have it in me to not hate someone that would hurt my kids.
I have spoken with Dave and he is the most lovely kind man you could ever think of he adores his daughter and my heart breaks for both him and Mary . RIP beautiful Skylar you were worth so so much more x
I understand the cousin wanting to reach Shelia somehow, but she can't down play what she did. It's a delicate balance. The lengths Shelia went to cover her crime and manipulate the family were truly sickening.
@@queencupcakke Maybe you should clean out your ears because she most certainly DID play it down. If not she'd want NOTHING to do with the TRASH that did this.
We'll always remember your parents love for you, Skylar Neese. She was a 16 year old child. (18 is an adult) They're kid killers. I hope they are lonely losers in prison.
God didnt have those girls murder Skylar. The Devil got ahold of them. What they did was so calculated & cold-hearted that its hard to imagine teenagers could be capable of such a horrible act.
This happened just a few hours away from where I live in West Virginia. The pain in her father’s voice has always stuck with me. Now both of the murderers are in the same prison (even though they weren’t supposed to ever be able to be in contact while incarcerated) and if you look at their most recent photos (it looks more like a school photo rather than a mugshot), they have their hair curled and all decked out in makeup and everything. It most certainly doesn’t look like they are being “punished” for brutally murdering an innocent teenage girl. Both of them should’ve received life in prison. It’s sick and so unfair.
Don't let makeup fool you. They can buy it there. Wearing makeup in a picture doesn't mean they are having fun. Prison isn't a Summer camp. The prisons are over populated, they can hear people screaming all night. On a side note, just because they are in the same prison, it does not mean they see each other. They don't have freedom of movement and prisons are huge. Lights are on during sleep. There often isn't enough food or water unless they pay top dollar. Many resort to drinking out of the toilets. Showers are not an everyday thing and they can lose the privilege. Getting put in solitary confinement for little or a lot of provocation. They can be in solitary confinfinement for weeks and even years, which makes them crazy and is considered torture. Summers can be dangerously hot and Winters can be cold inside cement buildings.. They don't exactly get healthy or tasty meals. They wear giant pads, but sometimes have to wait to get them and don't usually have enough. They are constantly watching for for their own safety. Many are forced to become prison "wives or husbands" and sometimes get sold to other people. Medical care isn't great. If they need take medications, they don't always get it on time and sometimes not at all. I know someone who was in prison who had arthritis and he stopped asking for even tylenol because the guards gave him a hard time and usually wouldn't take him to the infirmary or bring any back from the infirmary, wouldn't go to get, or were hours before bringing some pain medication to him. Some of the prison buildings need to be fixed because they are old and not getting enough maintenance done. Some prisoners get sick because of environmental issues. Training is scant and is often tied to getting rehabilitated. Little treatment means when they are let out, they are worse off than when then. If the prison is privatized, then there isn't neccessarily a good reason for the prison owners to provide decent rehabilitation because they could lose money if less people reoffend. Prisons are not great. It isn't wrong to want to look nice once in a while. It isn't like they can go to a club somewhere and party. They are still human beings even though they did a monstrous crime and they will get out, at some point. Wearing make up is a small thing.
Exactly and I hear there eligible for parole next year! Or something like that like WTF? How is that even possible I pray they NEVER see the light of day again because I believe they will do this again they have no remorse still to this day
Looking at Skyler's sweet face is heart breaking , that poor little girl did not deserve to die and so horribly too ... i remember when this first happened, and even to this day I cannot believe those girls really murdered their best friend, I can't imagine the pain her parents and family are in, so awful
The hardest thing is to lose a child. I lost my son in2005 and I can relate to these parents . I thank my husband and daughter for their love and understanding
Shania was absolutely right about the motive. Rachel admitted to it not that long ago. Sheila and Rachel were afraid Skylar was gonna tell people that the two of them were in a sexual relationship, so they killed her.
Dr. Phil's remarks at 40:54 on how to support someone grieving is something that I will take away from this episode for life. I may have not know Skylar other than a headline, but I'm learning a lesson and that's the best I can do to honor her.
Notice in one of the Facebook posts when skylar first went missing, Mary asked Shelia to tell everyone what Skylar is like as a person and Shelia responded “She was the bestest friend ever” … “SHE WAS” not “She is”. Shelia left clues from the very beginning
I saw that post. I believe Mary said, "tell everyone what Skylar WAS like," which is probably why she didn't think it odd that Shelia also used the past tense.
The mother is tough. She is supporting the father through this hard time. I’m sorry that this happen to you all. Continue supporting your husband. I’m so sorry for your lost. As a father this crushes me. Prays to you all
This happened in my hometown. Skylars townhouse is within walking distance from my parents house. Dave and Mary are great people. This tragedy absolutely devastated our community.
This couldn't have happened to more wonderful, loving parents. What a disgusting shame that this beautiful family was destroyed... and for what!?! The scary part is that these poor parents gave everything for Skylar, they raised her right and protected her and it didn't matter. It could happen to anyone. Bless you Dave and Mary (and precious Skylar) ❤
I can’t begin to imagine the pain these parents are going through. Skylar’s father breaks my heart every time I’ve seen him interviewed. Her parents raised a wet, beautiful child. May she Rest In Peace.
See the last time I checked if you didn't want to be friends with somebody all you had to do is just say this isn't working out we can't be friends anymore they took her away from her whole family now her parents don't get to experience being grandparents and that's just really messed up
@@Kim-ss5bb because it's considered "normal" and is hardwired into biology, but even if she lived to be 80 and never reproduced her parents would've supported her either way
Pray all you want, the girl is ALREADY dead, and prayers will do (as always) NOTHING. Maybe god doesn't plan for this girl to be murdered by her friends? But according to you he did so. . .
As a father I couldn’t imagine this happening!! My heart hurts so much for these parents.!! Just so so terrible and it shows how today’s youth has no value for life and doesn’t understand repercussions.!!!
Those videos of her as a little girl just hurt my heart. I have a daughter that's 3 and seeing Skylar at that age so innocent and sweet and knowing what eventually happened to her is just heartbreaking. This is a lesson to young girls to not try to hang out with people that aren't true friends. No way she could've known they were this horrible but I bet there were clues that they weren't good enough to be her friend. Being two faced, excluding her, making her feel unwanted. If you have frenemies like that just walk tf away.
This just prooves that sometimes it really is better to just walk away and that some situations just are not resolvable. Even if it was a situation where she had no friends for a while it would of been better than what happened. I really wish when things started to escalate that she just cut both of these sick evil bitches off and focused on other people. Maybe she wouldn't have a new best friend overnight but she would still be alive and be around people who actually genuinely care about her and who actually want to spend time with her. Clearly there were other people that liked her its not like these two were her only friends. I think both Shelia and Rachel have their issues and were just all around not good friends for her. It wouldn't have mattered whether it was because they didnt want to be friends with her anymore or they were afraid she would reveal their lesbian relationship with each other, the majority of the world wouldn't have given a shit which tells me both of them have narcissim issues along with being psycho and sociopaths. Both reasons are bullshit and in no way justifies what they did. Both these girls are sick evil bitches who should never get out. a rational person would of just moved the fuck on and realised its not worth going to jail for the rest of their lifes, stupid fake sick crasy evil bitches.
My heart and prayers go out to everyone affected by this hideous miscarriage of a "friendship" Listen to your kids,know who they hang out with, and please if you see something..say something. R.I.P Sweet Skylar
I don’t even know how the dad can move on from this… he is so deeply sad and disturbed by the loss of his daughter. His whole world has been crushed. I just can’t even imagine.
This story continues to haunt me! I am scared even today when my adult kids go out! I have to keep ringing their mobiles to reassure myself. I want to hug David & Mary and make it all better! Thank you for sharing!
Murder is bad enough on it's own but to have the motive be, "we didn't want to be friends with her anymore," just makes it that much worse. Like, what the hell? Just stop hanging out with her and stop talking to her. That's all they would have had to do. Skylar didn't deserve that.
wat i heard was dat Skylars " friends" were planning to stop being friends wit her as de og planned but now after de post" all de shit i have one everyone which is alot" dats when de plan to drop her as a friend switched to killing her over de fucking lesbian secret Rachel n Shelia wanted to keep hidden
@@chrisgomez1840 The "lesbian secret",....It wasn't such a secret... Skylar had been telling people about it already! Skylar didn't have to do that to her friends. Skylar was the one to betray and backstab her friends first. And that was what made the other girls so angry at her obviously. Anyone would have been pissed off at their friend for betraying them like that! Skylar should not have done that. If she did not do that, she most likely would still be alive. Why in the hell did Skylar even have to record them while they were drunkenly having a lesbian experience?! That was wrong of Skylar!!! I would SO hate to have a blackmailing manipulative mischievous backstabbing friend like Skylar!!
What's wrong with you? All people gossip sometimes and the tensions between teenage girls are crazy as they are full of hormones buzzing. They quarrell, they exchange one friend for another, but normally they don't kill anyone. NORMALLY - and Shelia and Rachel are obviously not normal.
I’ve also always been a huge believer of making sure your kids have good friends - that their friends are decent young people from decent families . Don’t under estimate the danger of your kids ending up in the wrong crowd . This is an extreme example but there are many other things that can go wrong .
“Do not he mislead; bad company corrupts good character.” It’s a Corinthians verse, but I can’t remember the chapter/verse off the top of my head. Same thing as “birds of a feather flock together” or even “two’s company; there’s a crowd” applies to this situation!
There never any telling and you can’t control who your kids are friends w lmao, my mom tried to hard to ban me from some friends I just snuck to be w them so just watch what you say lol
Ugh I still think of her parents all the time. This was such a heartbreaking story. Her dad talking about how never ever thought she would be in danger while with her friends…. I can’t even begin to imagine how… betrayed? Horrified? I don’t know if there’s words to accurately describe how a parent could feel, when learning their child was killed by her OWN BEST FRIENDS. It makes me absolutely sick to think about what her parents went through learning that the girls they allowed in their home and thought were grieving with them, were responsible for what happened. I know you will never be “okay” again once you lose a child, but I hope Skylar’s parents are doing as well as they can be, and know that people still think of Skylar and them all the time ♥️
Sickening....two evil dark souls...they made a disgusting horrific decision that they will have to live with the rest of their life’s...condolences to Skylar’s family...I’m so sorry...rip Skylar 🙏🏻💫✨💫
@@Kim-ss5bb how could one person know how a different person feels about anything. As far as we know, due to that horrible religion and what it does to a community they both felt they could never let their sexual secret come out. And it's better to deal directly with God about 1 so called sin than it is to deal with a different so called sin with their entire town and still deal with God. After all one sin is just as bad as another. I hate when people don't see how their religion actually makes them a worst person.
RIP Beautiful skylar. It breaks my heart every time I see her parents there heartbreak and pain must be unbearable. God bless them. Mr Neese you was an amazing father don't ever think there was something you could have done. Bless you all my love & thoughts are always with you xxxxx
My heart breaks for these parents; they seem like lovely people and wonderful parents. I'm so devastated for them both. I hope they have been able to find some peace. 💔
Oh my god my heart goes out to these parents I’m so beyond sorry for skylar and her parents for having to ever feel this hurt they seem like such kind hearted people
Oh wow, this story broke my heart. I live in Australia so this is the first time I've heard this story. A parent should never have to bury their child & I feel so deeply for these parents. R.I.P to the sweet young girl who tragically lost her life way too soon and I do feel for the parents of the other girls as well because, in a way, they lost their daughters' as well.
But at least the other Girls parents get to see them and hear them. And they get to hug them. Once Rachel is released she'll be able to get to see her family. Skylar's family won't ever get to have that.
I remember hearing this story and I was the same age as skyler she would be 25 this year like me. The dad is so pure. Lord I hope the parents have found peace. They were betrayed to the ultimate MAX! I am so sad every time I’m reminded of this story. My heart hurts for them still. She should be here. Envy is REAL, y’all please recognize the signs. Peace and love everyone. & RIP Rachel 💕
I do feel bad for the cousin as well. I'm sure it's not easy to admit that someone you're close to is a killer. I'm not even sure how I'd react if I was in that situation.
This story has always had a soft spot in my heart. Skylar was a amazing beautiful daughter her parents loved her so much you want you kids to be safe and feel comfortable in there surroundings and who their with I feel so much for Skylar father he brakes my heart. I truly hope they have found some peace. I hope these evil girls rought in hell and never be aloud out of jail
It just means that's when she comes up Parole. That's not saying she's ever going anywhere. Just Like Charles Manson. He was getting Parole hearings. But they never let him go
``I don't know how Rachel thought it was OK to kill someone,'' Kelly said; saying she had been saying to Rachel, ``tell me you did not do this;'' why would you have to say that to someone above suspicion?!
You know her friend says that she didn't say anything weird or come across as somebody who could commit murder but if you watch all of the videos about this case you'll see that that's not true
Even looking at their pictures it's pretty evident who is the third wheel, and the videos on Shelia's channel - first thought that rang out was "GET A ROOM" by the way those two were behaving. I never met the two assailants and I don't plan to, but even for me it was uncomfortable to watch so I can only imagine what went through Skylar's head - especially when Shelia would look at her with disdain then immediately go back to licking the bottom of Rachel's shoe without missing a beat. [There's a perverted comment in there somewhere too I'm sure. Skylar shouldn't have had to witness that either, I don't care how drunk they were.]
I know, me too!!! I'd love to wrap my arms around them both and just hug them so tightly they felt nothing could hurt them and their pain at least faded a bit even if just for a moment. As a parent, I can't even imagine how I would even begin to cope!
What I find most disgusting is that sheila acted the way that she did towards Skylars parents after she did what she did. Hard to wrap my head around it. Cold, cold girl. My condolences💙 left a family incomplete. Sorrow like that just does not heal.
She should have gotten more time for that alone. Something tells me that if she is released and comes in contact with someone she can't ha e her way with, she's more likely to kill again.
@@finebetty7446 I forgot their names already, but the better looking one is going nowhere. She is staying behind bars for a very long time. The other one, who took a deal? Yeah, she'll be out in her 30s.
I hurt for Skylar's parents. As a mother I couldn't imagine something like this, one of my sweet babies murdered by their own friends. Skylar looks like a really sweet person, just adorable. I don't think her murderers should ever be released from prison. Sheila's cousin looks extremely embarrassed for what Sheila did and I feel sorry for the families of the killers who have to face that their loved ones are evil psychopaths.
Skylar was the one who was totally untrustable FIRST. She recorded her friends in a drunken lesbian situation (without their permission to record). Then told people about it and probably showed the pix/videos to others. WHY did she have to go and do that to her best friends?!?! VERY shady of Skylar! I would not want to be friends anymore with someone who would do something to me like what SKylar did to her 2 friends. If Skylar never would have done that, most likely she'd be alive today, and they probably would all still be good friends.
@@VodkaRose what are you talking about? You're completely lying you're probably one of those killer's friends. Stop spreading lies even if that was the truth what those girls did was way worse. You're disgusting defending those imbeciles!
Knowing that either of those girls could be released on parole is a scary thought. I hope they keep them both locked up and Skylar’s family goes to parole hearings to beg them not to release those monsters.
I find it so strange that whenever two people are involved, especially when the killers are children, they're always looking for the "bad seed". Does it matter? They murdered a girl, and for what? Such a shame, Skylar was a beautiful girl. I'd like to think she's in a better place now.
The poor parents are still so angry. I pray they can find peace one day. RIP Sweet Skylar. Soar with the angels. I hope one day the 3 of you can be reunited in Heaven.
This case stayed w me.So Sad.Skylar was so 🦋 pretty and had such a bright future.I Rescued a kitten w sky blue eyes few yrs back.I named her Skylar.The family loved the name that adopted her kept the name🕊️😻
This is truly one of the worst crimes i have come across. I think of my teenage daughter and her best friends and its so horrific to think they did this. Pre meditated, no reason, and i think about her final moments and think it has to be one of the cruelest ways to die. 😥
Sick things religion forces people to. If only they weren't made to feel ashamed then none of this would have transpired. Stop trying to please a God until he can show up finally and explain why he's been hiding from the world for centuries.
God bless skylar and her parents. Dave especially breaks my heart you can just hear his pain in his voice and see it in his eyes. My heart breaks for both parents but especially for dave bless his heart. RIP Skylar you will never be forgotten 💗💗xxx
How horrific.i hope those girls rot in jail. I feel for the family. Even tho years have passed they still will always miss Skylar. Prayers to the family.
Shelia's cousin is either really stupid or just in denial. She is sitting there defending Shelia as if she is an innocent victim. Shelia was the mastermind behind this crime.
I have a 25 year old and a 6 year old my two girls are my world my all, I can only imagine what they feel those parents till this day it’s a pain that will never go away.
