She doesn't care about anyone, not even her baby. She doesn't even take the help offered until it's mentioned that law enforcement is getting involved and reported to CPS.
And yet even though she tested positive nothing has happened. Yet, bc I don't have a roof over my head my kid is taken. No drugs in either system but just cause I don't have stable housing. Myself n the dad are in community living n have tried so hard to get services but thanks to covid everything seems impossible or takes longer than the already pre-longed system. Nvm the worker I have hasn't helped me at all nor responses to the daily text messages I send her asking about my son's well-being... she only does when she wants to. This just sickens me. We both have a good income as well but here we r.
That is what happens in most states. If a mother tests positive for illegal substances or medications for which she has no prescription, the baby is taken from here. At least I know that's the way it goes in NY state and Massachusetts. In NY state a mother can also be prosecuted for using substances while pregnant. I had my daughter at Boston Children's Hospital because she was born with a rare heart defect. There is a division of Child Protective Services INSIDE THE HOSPITAL! We shared rooms with babies who had been virtually abandoned by the parents or left alone in the hospital while the parent(s) returned home.
Saying she's willing to give up custody of the child to her mother is not the selfless act she wants it to be perceived to be. She simply doesn't want to bear the responsibility of caring for a drug addicted baby. She wants to be free to continue doing drugs with no repercussions. AWFUL
I'll never understand it. Addiction is an evil thing. Shes doing the right by walking away. I'm grateful my daughter bio dad walked. I made sure to have legally done, I'll never ask for child support as long as he doesn't toy with her mind or try anything based on his Addiction of the day
As a kid who grew up like this . I was not born addicted. Somehow my mother really watched what she did for once. She’s wild, reckless, very manic, she left when I was probably 3-4 I was raised by my grandmother and grandfather. Which as a kid here it wasn’t normal yet. I’m a 90s baby . So i remember very clearly the arguments between her and my deadbeat . I remember being taken to now my mom’s house and being afraid to unpack . No one told me it would be forever. I was still pretty skittish. I knew my grandparents. I knew I was loved and taken care of . I remember giving my permission to have me on their insurance and being my parents/ guardians (everyone takes that Differently) man unpaid for her mistakes in school in social situations random people places. It got to the point of being abusive to me . I’ve never touched hard drugs in my life. But it is the same song everyone sings your just like your mother . No I’m not I made it to 13 nothing out of the ordinary. I made it to 16 not pregnant I didn’t care for relationships if it was a week a month I’m just in high school. I babysat everybody on drugs 😂 which this is going to sound awful but hey I kept my idiots safe . I smoked cigarettes I drank . But not as w as people thought. For me her leaving me and running was and good and bad thing . I proved myself time and time again . Remember your kids suffer more than you know we will always have questions. And we want answers. I’m a mom my son is 9 I can’t see running away from him . I broke the cycle and so many others can to
I want to say how proud I am of Kristin, the mother, for owning up to the damage she has done and for making an effort to turn not only her life around, but also trying to turn the lives of her daughters around. As much as I wish it happened earlier, it is incredibly hard to admit to wrongdoing, regardless of mental state. I sincerely hope her daughters get the help they need and that she makes an effort to help them and this baby.
Bullshit.... it's one thing to own up but she's STILL a shit mom... she literally doesn't even keep her eyes on her daughters WHILE THEY ARE IN LA FOR DR PHIL to the point where she doesn't even know her daughter ended up in some random guys hotel room?! And she even said, oh he's cool! Wtf?! You're praising her?! She's still a garbage mom
@Zahrina Duke nope unless you've been through it you don't understand it. I was engaged to a drug addict and it came down to him or me and the kids so obviously I had to make a hard decision. It's never pretty But ultimately comes down to choices and safety
I am so disgusted in this girl it is unreal are you kidding me brush your mom's hair?? Or the hair she doesn't have like she wants to say!! You know what she only is living her life because of her mom right now so this girl needs a real good tune up. What a piece of trash
The way she talked about her moms cancer was really heartbreaking. Her mom doesn’t even cry about it because she’s worried about her daughter dying and the baby..she looks emotionally exhausted.
But the daughter turns around and said she will give the baby to her mom🤦🏽♀️she do no they said she has terminal cancer😤after trashing her mom she got a lot of nerves
I am terminally ill and got into an argument with my son and as he was grabbing my grandson and storming out the door, his words were "I am glad that you are dying and that you are going to die alone and I wish you were dead already"! I haven't seen him in almost 2 years. I am in end stage now and have had to start interviewing hospice services. 😢
I was surprised by him. Pleasantly. It was frightening for me to think of him literally locking her up but I understand why he did that. Hopefully Sadie will stay the year and get it ALL out of her system. If he is waiting for her on the other side that speaks well of him. Sara…I pray her baby gets the prenatal care he needs to be born without addictions, and without devastating physical consequences of his mother’s actions.
He knocked up a drug addict! He chose to have a baby with this emotionally disturbed women! The selfish, immature idiot brought an innocent baby into this mess. Proud of him, my ass!
I know there's a lot of issues with Phil sometimes but him giving these gals the gift of recovery at no cost is a big gesture. Those places are nice and VERY expensive. I'm glad it seems they're doing OK these days. ❤
Based on a quick Google search, it looks like both girls are doing so well in 2022. Both went on to relapse in 2017/2018 ( Google showed that Sara was arrested at one point) but they are both in recovery now it seems, and have regained custody of their kids!
Omg how amazing to hear. Thank you for the update ☺️ I wonder about the mom. My heart broke for her 💔 she knew she messed up and she's doing all she can to right her wrongs.
Thank you for the update. I hope they learned some parenting skills. That is what the first treatment center would have gave them extensive information and teachings on. Unfortunately some like to take the road of hard knocks.
Them having custody of their kids is not good news. The children should have been adopted & raised by loving, safe family. In no fair world should any child be subjected to being raised by anyone in this family. They are toxic as hell.
I know!! At rest his face looks extremely perturbed and annoyed. If he smiles, that changes, but still, I would not want to be a pregnant teen having to go into his office and getting reamed out for being a neglectful drug addict.....ha, ha.....
I've heard other places where ppl say they had their interviews taken out of contact ( I'm spelling the wrong word but for the life of me I can get the right word from my head to my phone) just like this girl is saying. I'd never go on DR Phil or take a family member on the show. However with that being said I do wish that there were doctors out there with his connections who could help in the same way he does. That is something amazing and much more needed I feel.
She needs to be thrown out on her ass or put into the hospital. That poor baby. This is disgusting. She is selfish. I do not feel sorry for the woman but the baby.. I know old episode.
The problem with her addiction's. is that its affected her thinking so much, that she thinks everyone else is over reacting. I feel so angry to see her resisting the urge to laugh and her fake sobbing. I can see how manipulative she is too by the way she is acting so demure. Its all acting. My hope is that one day, she will look back on this, and see how serious her problem was. I hope baby will be okay and if hes not, then I hope he finds a healthy and loving family.
That... as a recovering addict, really sickens me to my core. What a selfish evil thing to do. She needed to be in a safe environment free of drugs until that baby is born then give her the right to go kill herself after it's born for all I care.
Even if the child is physically ok the mother is a hair triggered violent narcassistic drug addict who doesn't have a job or home. That's not good. She obviously doesn't know who the dad is... possible prostitute seeing as she's losing her stuff in random dude's rooms.
You know what no one is questioning here that bothers me? Sadie's boyfriend found out she was on drugs and continued to be with her and let her be around his DAUGHTER!! Sadie admitted she watches his daughter while high on heroin. I'm questioning his judgement as a father.
what really pisses me off the most besides doing all these reckless things during her pregnancy is the fact that she almost sounds proud of her behavior in the beginning.
I’m a special needs teacher and I swear most of my students are coming from households where their mother abused drugs while pregnant. It’s so heartbreaking 💔
I understand addiction from personal experience but at a certain point during this episode it became excruciating to listen to this girl. I felt like my mind was locking up. She sounds so ridiculous. You can feel the anxiety she’s feeling of being put on blast for her behaviors and I GENUINELY hope she can get some help long term. I hope that baby is living in peace and harmony and with great health.
The wining...."I dont knowwwww". The fake crying (no tears in sight) and snifling. The constant moaning and playing victim...dear lord, I can't take it!!!
As a former heroin and fentanyl addict I just wanna say that I would have killed for the opportunity to go to a first class rehab like the places they were offered. I couldn't afford anything close to that. They would be fools not to take it.
@@pontificaterebal677 are you an addict? I was addicted to smoking fentanyl for 5 years. It’s a hard drug to get clean from, I will never forget the sickness as long as I live. I’ve been clean now for 4 years. It’s so worth it. You have to cut any toxic people out of your life, they’re not your friends. I wish you the best and stay strong 💪
It will never cease to amaze me that women who could care less about being a good mama are the one's who can just look at a man and get pregnant and then you have women who would be the most fantastic mama there is and can't seem to conceive or carry a baby full term even with help by all the medical means possible 😔
I wish it was the women's that didn't want baby's and treated them bad . We're the ones that couldn't get pregnant and the ones that desperately want kids and kids have them are the ones that can have them and cannot conceive. I wish they were the ones who could have children. I'm scared I that I'm won't be able to have babies. I tried in my last marriage to get pregnant and never had any luck. I always go or a big fat negative. I am sometimes envious of the ones that can have kids so easily. It's just not fair. If I can't have children I want to adopt
@@crazycatladyann390maybe you are special and have what it takes to adopt and change a kids life. Maybe there is a kid wishing for you. Maybe you are ment to help a kid that already exists and needs more love than most could give instead of bringing another kid into existence. I'm so sorry you can't have a biological kid but that doesn't mean you can't be a parent. If you have love to give please go give a kid the loving home they have been wishing for. Every kid deserves a parent and if you are kind loving and willing to go above and beyond for a vulnerable child you might just be the perfect person to adopt a kid. Regardless of if it's biological or not you might just have a child waiting for you ❤
@@tekeriahfortson5679 I wrote you last year. I wish my son’s letter had been read. He died last year and I wish I could talk to these kids. I really bring reality home to them.
when my mom told my brother and I she had breast cancer when I was in the fourth grade my entire world fell apart bc she’s literally the world to me, she gave me a life . thank gawd my mom is going strong breast cancer free ♥️ blessings to this woman, it’s something hard to go through no matter what
That's the main difference though, when these girls were young, their mother was not a good mom. In a young child that makes a world of difference in how they view things and how they see the world. I have siblings that had a drug addiction of a mother and chose meth over them and they are still screwed up to this day. I have problems from my own mother but not to the degree my siblings do with their mother.
My mum got breast cancer in summer of 1988 both my sister and myself were getting married and my mum was amazing, she lived for 34 years after that. RIP my gorgeous mum ❤❤❤
i am so so so happy Dr Phil talked both the girls into getting into treatment!!! Not sure if the one sister will stick with it but at least the pregnant one knows she’ll go to jail if she leaves 😂
That, "Ok, wait ...." is frickin priceless. My mom was an addict and it's a terrible thing but some some crack-head mannerisms are absolutely hysterical.
I am so terrified for that baby.. Smokes cigarettes and does drugs.. It's sad that this will effect the child it's entire life, not just going through withdrawal after they are born.. I used to smoke 1pk a day.. The moment I found out I was pregnant, I went cold turkey which showed me, yes, putting it in your head over and over, I had minimal withdrawal.. That was 1995.. Haven't smoked since..
"Our laptop was stolen and we know you took it " " no! I helped you look for it!" This girl must have never heard the expression "she's the kind of addict that will steal your shit then help you look for it "
@@margaretcaldwell7690 ROF = rolling on the floor Please remember to check the bulletin board to the right of the time clock for announcements pertaining to all training and in-service opportunities. 😉
“I feel like my mom is making a bigger deal out of her having cancer than it actually is, she thinks the world should revolve around her and she should get over it… Millions of people have cancer” …………….. I have NO WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When she said "I'm not comfortable being so far", Sara girl. Comfortability means GROWTH! it's a good thing. I hope she took the treatment and her, her sissy, and baby are all doing well.
My mother died, from ovarian cancer. Hearing this clown deride her mother, saying it's for pity points, there are just some things you hear that trigger you.
RIGHT?! I wanted to jump thru the iPad screen when she said that, I had to double tap left and do a 10 second rewind to hear it again to give her the benefit of the doubt she couldn’t be that cruel. I think she might be jealous of the attention her moms condition is getting (sans the drama the daughter has) compared to the attention her pregnancy, addiction and her drama. Her behavior is her tryna gain the attention...and is upset her bad behavior isn’t being rewarded.
Waynetech 10. My Mother and my sister both died of ovarian cancer and we nearly lost another sister from it too. Just because these girls' Mother has the same complaint doesn't make her a saint all of a sudden. She wasn't the best of a mother to them way back then to say the least and that's why Dr Phil is somewhat terse in dealing with her, cancer or not. But at least she's trying to do right by them now.
@@monicamurray5090 I had the same thought when he was digging into mom... "damn take it easy on her, she has cancer..." but then I realised Dr Phil is true to his character...he wants to help everyone and will tell it like it is for the benefit of everyone and it's plain honesty. It's not to pick on anyone. His honesty and professional opinion to provide help holds no criteria to sugar coat it. U can tell his goal is to help when he won't take it easy on u, regardless ur disposition. He isn't blinded or tainted by the "smallest violin" concerts people put on for the rest of us.
And yet Sara says she's not addicted to drugs. WHAT A JOKE!!! Her fidgeting looks like withdrawal behavior. I have more respect for Sadie than I do Sara. Sara makes me want to punch her...sorry.
God I can't stand this little girl. All she cares about is herself and she can't even be honest about anything whatsoever. I honestly think getting her child taken away is the only way she's going to learn
The fact that she's in denial of being an addict, that's a huge red flag. Thats the first step, admitting you're powerless over your addiction. So she's not even close to giving up using. Such a sad situation overall and that poor baby.💔
Exactly right. She’s so far away from being clean it’s not even funny. Forcing someone like her into treatment is going to help her but it will help her baby which makes it completely worth it.
My Pastor and wife were trying to adopt another baby. They are clean and sober, believe that God is real & have a strong relationship with all of their friends, parishioners, children, and their parents. They were excited to add another baby to the family. They were in the process of finalizing the paperwork. Social worker denied them 😢 because of their "strict" religious beliefs. All of their children were home schooled and they are perfectly fine, safe, well adjusted, & are extremely intelligent. 🌟💚🌟
I didn't even drink coffee while I was pregnant, I can't imagine being so flippant about damaging my baby, but then again that's what addiction does to you
I feel you, my first pregnancy I refused to drink coffee or sodas with caffeine or anything with aspartame. My 2nd pregnancy I drank coffee lol I drank some coke but I have a different job now I work on my feet and have early mornings but the coffee, I felt wrong about but I needed a start for sure 😅
Addiction has nothing to do with this, it's selfish and childish behavior that a woman uses while pregnant. My wife was an addict, but when we got pregnant she gave it up for her, and now she is better for it and our daughter is healthy and beautiful, but my wife is not a selfish stupid little girl like this female here. I'm wondering how she got this way though? Bet there's more to this girls story than is discussed on this show. Oh momma is to blame, and is reaping the fruits of her actions. Not talking about the cancer, but the daughters she has raised. Children learn and see the deeds of there parents and these demon's are contagious. Like COVID-19,
I couldn't give up my caffeine while I was pregnant but, I cut my caffeine way down to the smallest can once a week. My baby girl was born fine she's great at 8 months now she's a little slow on crawling but, we have a physical therapist who comes and works with her once a week on her crawling.
8 years of sobriety feels amazing! Nothing like getting your life back & getting back the self respect you loose along the way. I wonder if they ever were able to get sober, or are still wandering lost in addiction?
Dr. Phil did a great job getting them help! Both of them didn't want to be far from home because they were going to leave after a couple of days. They knew that being that far from home they couldn't just leave. Good job with Dr. Phil letting the pregnant one know if she left he was notifying the police. The sister I really hope she took this seriously, such a beautiful girl to let drugs destroy her life. She can do so much better. The mom and stepdad are really good people you can see the love they have for them. Praying for all of them. Get straight life is too short not to enjoy it with a clear head.
5:12 what a nasty little girl! She can look forward to karma though because I heard breast cancer runs in families... I'm glad that her mother is better though I wish her all the best in luck and health.
@@stephanieruiz9053 when Dr. Phil sends them to rehab he doesn't pay for it. The rehabs take the person no charge and Dr phil endorses the rehab on t.v. that is why he says the name of rehab several times.. they make thousands from people wanting to go to a place Dr phil approves of for one patients free 30 day rehab
@Alexandra Gannon. Aww, how sweet. Right back atcha sister! *Hope you're having a lovely day and a sunny (enough) springtime!* 🐣💞 That's to anyone else reading this, too! [edit: typo]
I'd love to have an update. As a recovering addict who has been clean for 12 yrs I would have given anything to have had an offer like this. Neither of them realized it at that time what a gift he was offering. Hopefully they look back and realize what he did for them and the baby.
@Holly West + Velvet Tears, I still struggle with my addiction, though I've come a long way from where I was, and I'm so appreciative of people who share their experiences of success. Brilliant job, ladies!
@@made-line7627 after being sober for as long as I have I still struggle. It's something that will always be a struggle. I just have to keep reminding myself of where I am vs where I was as an addict and I know I never wanna live like that again. Taking one day at a time helped me out. Congrats on getting sober. I wouldn't wish addiction on anyone.
2019 - from someone else: Sara has 3 kids, youngest was born last year (I believe). Sadie has 1 kid. Both seem to be turning their lives around. Both are posting things about being sober, things they have achieved in their lives after getting clean and just enjoying being mothers. Especially Sadie seems to be a very hands on mother. Sara is getting married. The baby she was pregnant with on the show is with her and based on photos seems to be a healthy child.
It's kind of funny though in it's blatant lack of self awareness. It's dark humor but I could easily see something like that in a movie. That being said, when this was filmed the girl was obviously suffering.
They’ll then just stick the pregnant woman on methadone or subutex, the baby still comes out addicted and has to be weened. Withdrawal could kill them both. However, there are natural ways to detox that nobody touches on. Consulting with medical professionals usually makes things worse for addicts from what I’ve seen. Very few professionals out there who truly want to help ): But I do believe there should be a way to take some more control over addicts to get them help. Even if it doesn’t stick, it could prolong their life resulting in them eventually getting clean. It’s such a rough situation, let alone adding a pregnancy on top of an addict who doesn’t want help.
@@virgie4715 Actually Most babys don't Detox Off Subutext. they found weaning doesnt help the baby and only Do it on rare occasions. The over all benefit of Sub vs Heroin outweighs everything. The baby gets to focus on growing as opposed to being sick Daily.
That loop of the babies that were in withdrawal was so heartbreaking. I hope that these two ladies got the help they needed and I hope the baby is healthy and happy.
THANK YOU for posting both part 1 & 2! Nothing more frustrating than searching & being unable to find the second part. You made my snowy day binge watching soooo much easier !!
Good job 😊👍 thank you doctor Phil for helping this girl's mostly the unborn child God blessed you and all the ones that is helping this two girls from drugs 😊
Sara:"I want to go to drug counseling" Dr. Phil: " I thought you weren't addicted to drugs." Sara: "I just want to learn about it." Wow! One day, God willing, when she is clean she'll look back in disbelief at the things she's said. This is not a hopeless situation y'all. God is able!
@Zahrina Duke exactly, and even if the addict blames addiction and won’t take responsibility for pain they caused it is still ok. And if you don’t want to give Ana edict sympathy for personal reasons for example or you feel a certain way due to personal experiences. That you are label as unsympathetic, and you are labeled as the asshole.
@Zahrina Duke you sound completely ignorant about the issue of addiction. That is to say you sound like you’ve formed an opinion but it’s not based on any actual facts and/or information.
@Zahrina Duke Not a Mental illness but doing drugs does cause Mental illness. It damages the frontal lobe of the brain. I saw it happen to a friend of mind that just smoked pot, one joint per day. Very sad but it started to affect her after 12 years and now we are in our 60's and she is so dumb, can't remember from one to day to the next, has paranoid schizophrenia now. She quit smoking pot 3 yeas ago but drinks now. Disgusting, it' s like talking to a 16 year old sometimes and other times a 12 yr. old.
Girls who get pregnant and take drugs or drink should be forced to take care of a disabled baby under supervision. They may think twice about doing drugs while pregnant.
Omg the end with Morgan, meemaw ans peepaw! Im crying happy tears of how amazingly this came out! I can only imagine what mama Fran will be like when a grandchild is on the way!
Interesting timing. Mom was diagnosed with cancer 8 months ago and daughter got pregnant 7 months ago. Was she that desperate to get the attention away from her mom?
I was a foster mother for twenty years and got most of my over two hundred kids from addictive mothers. Watching them having seizures and not normal brains was heartbreaking!!! One son we adopted committed suicide because he couldn't handle his wife leaving him. I'm still heartbroken because I knew something was wrong the day before. He was a sweet person. I know I couldn't have stopped it but it hurts to know he chose that over his adopted family and his baby boy!
Thank you for saying this. I was adopted because my birth mom gave birth to me full of drugs in my system. I firmly believe she is going to hell and is pure evil. I legit dont care what addiction is or what shit life she might have had. Its child abuse and she is destroying a human being because she wants to be high.
You are amazing, an incredible human being💖. The amount of empathy & love you must have, n just putting yourself through the intense drama to help strangers. Just thank you for being you💓💗💓
@@ivana92ify well, he did say she was a raging alcoholic when they were small. She neglected them and now they are both addicts.... So in a way, it is karma.
Ive handled babies like this. My mom and aunt were foster parents for years. A lot of the babies were drug and alcohol addicted. They shake like that for a long time. It's called tremors. They cry all the time and you can't comfort them no matter what u do. It makes me enraged when I see someone intentionally doing that to a baby
I saw addicted babies in my labor and delivery/maternity rotation in nursing school. They were so dope sick... they cried and cried... and I wanted to pick them up and hold them and comfort them...but I couldn't because physical touch was so painful.... It broke my heart. I hid in the bathroom and cried for an hour on my 2nd day.
Incase anyones curious- Someone on reddit said sara had her baby in prison and lost all rights to the baby. Idk more than that but theres a partial update
Does anyone have a further update which they can share, please? How is the baby boy? And how is the whole family doing, including Sarah and Sadie's mother with her cancer treatment? Perhaps we shall never hear as it is confidential, of course, but it is hard not to be concerned.