Wow I never thought of that, not all Dermatologists are concerned about anti-aging and wrinkles, because their main concern is skin health. You can have wrinkles and have healthy skin. Interesting
Destrada1225 of course they are. Every single dermatologist I’ve ever spoken to, watched videos/posts from, not to mention research articles from all emphasizes sunscreen and tretinoin. There’s two types of skin aging, intrinsic and extrinsic. The only thing we can prevent with skincare for the most part is extrinsic skin aging which is chased by external factors - and 90% of that is sun exposure which causes not only photoaging but can cause skin cancer and other forms of sun damage. If 90% of preventable skin aging is due to sun exposure, sunscreen is the absolute best thing you can do for skin aging. Aside from sunscreen, tretinoin is the gold standard. After those two things, there are relatively few things that have really been proven to prevent or treat skin aging. Glycolic acid, niacinamide, and a few others. So from a dermatologist perspective (most of them are very science focused), why mess with trendy anti aging ingredients when 95% is sunscreen and tretinoin? That doesn’t leave a lot less for other products to help. That was a little convoluted, hope it made sense still
@@skinsciencebymira I agree with you, I dislike when people keep saying that you need to invest a lot in skincare for anti aging properties. You can get sunscreen, retinoids, niacinamide for not that much at all. No need to fuss with 50-100 dollar serums and creams that just bank in a huge margin on our fear of aging while giving not much in return.
Destrada1225 for some reason I can see your question in my notifications about the Philosophy Ultimate Miracle Worker but it’s not showing up here so I apologize that I can’t see it all but I think I get the gist. I’m assuming you mean the Night version in the black packaging? I don’t think it’s worth it at all. For $80, I expect high concentrations of proven active ingredients. Instead there’s a bunch of filler ingredients, drying alcohols, and fragrance. Any potentially promising ingredients like the retinol, green tea, glycolic and lactic acid, and ascorbic acid are in the bottom part of the ingredients list. That as well as the sheer number of ingredients and where the good ingredients fall compared to fragrance and the preservatives tell me they’re in such small quantities they’re not going to be in sufficient concentrations to make a difference for you. The pearls are all marketing really because the retinol, the ingredient you actually want to keep stable, is already in the cream to start with and while I’m not always against jar packaging for moisturizers it’s a no for retinol and a few other unstable ingredients like ascorbic acid. Long story short.... skip it. Are you in the states? Prescription tretinoin is going to be far superior to retinol because it can be used immediately by the skin and targets the dermis plus it’s a medication so it has extensive research including clinical trials. It’s prescription but your doctor or Curology offer it. If you’re fairly new to retinoids (the one you’re using is pretty mild) and don’t want to go straight to prescription right away which can be irritating then I would go with a 1.0 retinol or even a retinaldehyde which is only one conversion from retinoic acid (if it’s not in the form of retinoic acid like prescription options the skin has to convert it to a useable form) where retinol is two conversions from it. Paula’s Choice has an excellent 1% retinol that’s still a good amount cheaper than the Philosophy and way better formulated. Obagi also has a good 1.0 retinol as does Skincueticals, SkinMedica, and many pro lines but the PC one is my top recommendation. Retinol is probably the only ingredient where I wouldn’t go too cheap because many brands mislead you and will say 2.5% when that’s just by volume and it’s really a 0.025 and the stability, penetration, and overall formulation of the retinol is really critical too. There’s not a lot of options for retinaldehyde and the Avenue Retrinal Intensive Cream is the only option that for sure has an effective concentration and doesn’t have tons of essential oils. Hope that helps some.
I do believe that she knows more about skincare products than Dr Sandra. Not all dermatologists have to know about 10.000 cosmetics. Susan may know more about all the available products, because it’s her job to recognize it all.
@@footstoolgreen1979 It is useful to her being very helpful to herself, as every click brings her money. But being an "influencer" does oblige her while charing her opinions, not sell them as expertise, act responsibly and be respectful to professionals, and she doesn't
Precisely. Susan's "product knowledge" is on par with those of us who know a thing or two about skincare. The difference is the rest of us don't feel we are better than or know more than a dermatologist.
Facial flushing from exercise is not inflammation... it's the dilation of capillaries to help move blood faster... telling someone that the health of their skin is compromised due to working out is completely false.
It shocked me when she said that. That claim was rediculous. My face gets tomato red as soon as I start to exercise/dance. I'm not an expert and even I knew it's not inflammation 🤦🏼♀️
Just LetMeFly I in the 🍅🍅🍅 club myself, even if I just get slightly hot. It runs in my family with the added bonus of the popular face sweating 😅, it is like I have been eating a handful of the hottest chillies 🌶 in the world 😏😃
The "i may know more than her about skincare" was big yikes. she is a doctor and has studied this. You have a journalism degree. Reading things on google doesn't compare to actually studying about topics.
she studied skin care not skincare. there’s a huge difference. one is product and the other is the actual medical portion of caring for your skin. you could have tons of wrinkles and fine line and also have the healthiest skin of anybody on the planet.
Okay so you don't get a journalism degree by googling. You are taught to research primary sources and factual information to apply and cross-reference. She is cross-referencing her research based on what a dermatologist is saying...a journalist has up to date information where a doctor may be, especially over a long career, dated in the information provide to patients (I mean, I think we have all heard of docs saying "stop eating chocolate" as a cure for acne or "you have hysteria" back in the day when a woman was on her period...docs aren't always the most CURRENT sources of health information.) I'm not a journalist, and I'm not saying listen everything any journalist has to say, but a GOOD journalist will be someone who delivers you up to date information based on the latest published SCHOLARLY articles and will compare that information with other current information to deliver an informative summarized conclusion on the topic.
@@therebex23 so you're saying journalists are current sources of health information? Doctors study for YEARS and have practical experience in the field. cross-referencing articles on the web isn't the same. They can be wrong but i'd trust a doctor over a journalist pretending to be a skincare expert.
fierceANM she made a clear distinction on the study of skin and skincare very early on. Where is the confusion on whether Susan knows more about skincare than the Dr. ? They have expertise in different areas. I don’t trust all doctors either.
Moptop a dermatologist knows more about caring for skin than any one else. It is LITERALLY their field of expertise. Stating that you don’t trust doctors demonstrates your ignorance.
This is so uncomfortable to watch. As a health care professional who has friends who are both aestheticians and dermatologists becoming a licensed derm takes so much training, research, and practice. They dont just work with people with skin disorders, they work with teens and normal people who struggle with normal skin conditions. To compare them is one thing, ok they both approach skin differently, but to claim you know more about skin care than a dermatologist is false.
Where exactly does Susan says she knows more than Dr. Pimple Popper in this video? I have watched this video a few times and don’t see where she makes such a bold claim.
Literally nothing you said added any value to this video. You don’t talk with any kind of ingredient knowledge. You always say ‘I’ve always said, I’ve experienced, I was told’ but no actual research, facts or statistics behind what you say! You don’t sound like you have any actual knowledge of ingredients, you don’t refer to anything other than rewording was DOCTOR Lee has already said. Literally when you were talking about the serum you were repeating the exact same thing like 5 times in a different order to sound like you had a lot of knowledge about it but you don’t. If you’re going to make a video, reacting to a doctor at least spend some time researching and be available to offer more information than what the, again, DOCTOR OF DERMATOLOGY, has already said.
As a med student I just have to laught at you, I'm sorry. First you have the audacity to compare your knowledge on skin and skincare to an actual doctor, and a well trained and researched specialist at that, and then you have the nerve to say your face getting red while exercising is the result of inflammation. Girl bye. 🤦♀️
I'm unsubscribing from Mixed Makeup because of this video. If you are going to make claims that you are JUST AS EDUCATED as a Board Cert Derm with a BS and an MD degree, yet you yourself have NO FORMAL education on the subject, you NEED to put a disclaimer in your video. Very tacky
A dermatologist goes about skincare to treat or minimize conditions, where estheticians go about skincare to make the skin look better and minimize aging. It makes perfect sense that one would discuss the other with their different approaches.
paradox popping pimples actually pushes the bacteria deeper into the skin. So if she agrees with popping pimples she’s not that familiar with what the skin needs. Not everything someone says regardless of their educational background is true.
Even medically trained and certified doctors will disagree with other doctors on what methods are correct. Pediatricians disagree with other pediatricians on different childhood conditions and treatments, etc. So that should tell you that being a doctor doesn't automatically make you an expert in your field. If all doctors were experts, wouldn't they be able to agree with each other on the best methods? Nope, doesn't work that way.
Hi Suzan what you did not mention here is that most skincare brand claims is marketing. That is marketing when your claims have not been proven by independent real clinical research/study. That's why most dermatologists do not focus on skincare, because there is no need to treat the skin. Not because they don't know enough but actually because they have more than enough knowledge to not fall into all the marketing claims and they have 0 time to waste. They know which ingredients work and what they do , and follow or work on research for new efficient ingredients so yes they will focus on ingredients not skincare brands. Plus they treat thousands of people with very bad AND very mild condition as well. Now someone who has naturally great skin do not need any special skincare. Clean, moisturize, spf, avoid the sun, eat healthy, work out, avoid stress, Retin A if you want to minimize premature wrinkles, that's it. Dermatologists do not focus on marketing they focus on science so they will use products that use ingredients that have proven their efficicacy and won't care about the other stuff. Skincare is not innovative even when they say they are. Bloggers focus on everything and review brands. She is not paid to please viewers, customers, brands... She is paid to find out what will most likely work for her patients and the only way to do that is to focus on ingredients that work not skincare in general.
I really agree with this. Dr. Sandra Lee is a literal doctor who went to school for YEARS on this stuff. People who only rely on skincare marketing are silly. Read some scholar articles before you act like you know more than a certified doctor.
@@daviddacus8168And ? Of course she is. This channel asked her to show her skincare routine. She has a line with efficient ingredients why should she use anythingelse...Do those products make sense with what she says as a Dermatologist? Yes. We all need products to moisturize, clean etc... The question is do the ingredients make sense or not.
This is such a gross attitude. “I may know more about skincare than her.” Are you serious?! If you were to see the molecular structure of hyaluronic acid, you would not be able to recognise it at all. Please let’s not forget that you are a journalist and you are honestly building your knowledge off the works of dermatologists. It’s such a gross attitude.
@@tiffanymichelle3130 The 'gross' isn't really literal. What she said is extremely belittling and totally 'deprofessionalises' a dermatologist's hard work and effort. Years in school and years of placements and experience.
@Carol She has a journalism degree and learnt stuff about skincare from dermatologists and estheticians. She has no formal education on skincare. The issue is that she had this whole "I may know more about skincare than her" attitude over someone who went to school and studied intensively (with years of practice to follow) around skin.
So, just to clear something up. When you do some kind of activity that makes your skin red because of the higher blood flow in your small vessels , you dont get inflamed, its just more blood flow in your skin, wich actually does the OPPOSIT. IT HELPS TO REMOVE INFLAMATION ! Love youre videos but I think you misunderstood something about blood flow. (Medical Professional)
@@mindykoch3340 ... Wow, really trying hard to be a passive aggressive bi*ch much? "Thank you" is fine. Keep your not so hidden hate to yourself. People aren't blind to it.
From what I understand and learn from bio class (bio major) in the context of immune response, increase blood flow brings additional immune cells from the innate immune system and things like cytokines that actually induced additional inflammation. I just want to if this way of thinking can be applied. How is the skin inflamed at a molecular level? Just super curious and I want to learn
"That doesn't mean they [dermatologists] know everything about skin care"- No, they probably don't know everything about skincare, and nor do they claim to. That's why they studied medicine for 7+ years. That's why they talk, discuss and critique other colleagues about their work thoroughly. That's why they attend conferences to update themselves about the latest findings in dermatology. That's why they regularly read and contribute to peer reviewed articles. That's why they sit and treat patients with skin diseases/issues, thus accumulating experience. That's why they know a whole load more than you and are STILL learning.
But she could know more about skinCARE. Obviously she is not as proficient in skin conditions, but in terms of whats on the market and skincare routines/curation she is more experienced.
LittleGirlBlue Even then... It depends on the dermatologist. What Sandra said is that she knows what goes on her face but varies how much dermatologists care. Not that she doesn't know
Dermatologists and most of allopathic medicine practitioner have very limited knowledge about real medicine. They are only well versed in Anatomy and classification of symptoms and management thereof. They simply cannot cure simple disease like heart burns,blood pressure, let alone cancer and serious ailments. Pathoneogenesis and root cause of diseases aren't their wheel house.. If you have eczema, treatments antihistamines and/ or cortisol..to be applied daily lifelong and results in chapped, thinned wrinkly skin. Hey people, you just lost the logic and common sense.
Wait a minute! So she is not a certified dermatologist??? I thought she was qualified so she could allow herself to so arrogantly react at ppl's skincare routines. OMG shame on you Susan
I mean idk what she knows or who’s she working with but Naturium is AMAZING and every SKINCARE SPECIALIST, CHEMIST AND LICENSED AESTHETICIAN recommended her Naturium products before they even knew she was behind it and why I got them, and honestly what they’ve done to my skin is amazing and when I learned Susan is behind it I was honestly glad
@@carebear8655 because it is very hard to find products at a such low price with such a good quality, while also being fragrance-free, almost impossible
@@cookiesarelikecream estheticians are just trash. They know no science about skincare. All they do is extracting pimples and peels. Lol. I don’t trust them like I don’t trust Susan the snake
Idk but dermatologist go to school for a minimum of 10 years ( 4 years undergrad, 4 years med school and at least 2-4 years residency). Her speciality is skin health. I don’t know but critiquing her skin care routine IMHO is a little disrespectful especially saying that an esthetician would know better.
Ok but the majority of that time they’re focused on pre med or just med school... what any family doctor also does... what ultimately makes them most qualified with skin is their experience treating it. Perhaps a few years of their residency and their fellowship. A dermatologist, like any other doctor, can continue to choose to inform themselves more or less throughout their career. It’s ignorant to assume a degree automatically makes someone immune to criticism or more accurately with this video, open discussion.
Elizabeth Williams Contreras I respectfully disagree. What is “ignorant” is this influencer with absolutely no scientific training ( She has a degree in advertising I think) saying that she can go “ toe to toe” with a highly trained, expert in the very field she is being “critiqued” in. There is a reason most skin care products aim for that “ dermatologist approved” stamp of approval. I guess I’m more interested in this discussion because my father is a dermatologist ( in Canada ). His residency started with 2 years of internal medicine followed by 3 years of his dermatology residency . This was then followed by a 2 year sub specialty training. In Canada this is the standard training for all dermatologists. It is a minimum 5 year residency program. His whole career is based on the diagnosis , treatment and most importantly prevention of disease of skin , hair and nails. It is not just critiquing someone with a degree.
She’s being kinda arrogant... like the entire time she just rephrased THE DERMATOLOGISTS words🤦🏾♀️ “i’ll give her a pass” she is a dermatologist if anyone gives a pass it is the doctor. Susan should have looked at what she could learn but trying to nit pick everything! And Dr.Lee wasn’t showing off the fact she could do things that we can’t, she was just doing HER PERSONAL routine. I feel like Susan was threatened in a way.
@@chrisholmes3791 I am not offended, I am just responding to her body language. What I mean is that Susan is behaving like she is an authority here which is not really the case. She is a RU-vidr and the woman she is commenting on is a certified doctor with years of formal education.
This video is kind of everything wrong with the internet “I didn’t go to school for 4-7 years to study like this specialist did, but I’m going to criticise them anyway.” Sorry Susan. You have amazing experience and knowledge but until you become a dermatologist, I will be taking the Drs advice. Not yours.
Cherisse Fernandes ok.... or you, can not watch her videos and ask you dermatologist for advice. I know for a fact that Doctors don’t always get it right and as someone with severe skin issues the best advice came from family members and people who aren’t “qualified” to give advice. It’s a free country you can take her advice or leave it, but don’t waste your time on Al Gores internet this video almost 30 minutes long boo.
Cherisse Fernandes OMG!!! I use witches all the time 🤣🤣🤣 I have some recommendations for you to help get that stick out your ass. Also there’s this spell called “Get a life” that helps you go outside (like away for the Internet) so that you don’t have to take advice from someone that you don’t like after spending 30 minutes watching their video.
Cherisse Fernandes Also you have to be a pretty pompous person to imply that Doctors and dermatologists are right in every situation for every person... go find something to do with yourself. Susan obviously talks about skin care and dermatologist treat skin conditions. I have never met a dermatologist concerned with wrinkles but people who enjoy skin care obviously enjoy it for esthetics not for skin conditions. Girl bye.
So we have someone with no medical education whatsoever analyzing a skin DOCTOR'S routine. Your opinion is completely invalid. She's a doctor. You're a random "guru" who pretends she has any sort of education on this.
What did she say that was wrong? She agreed with the doctor. And Christopher Duntsch was a DOCTOR too. So was Dr. Swango. But hey those certifications mean they’re better than the average human right? Sure hospital errors are third leading cause of death but who cares? They’re DOCTORS for crying out loud. Don’t you know that their time in school means they are better than GOD??!!
Noelle Irina unfortunately being a doctor doesn’t always mean they’re professionals at what they’re doing. I went to a dermatologist once for my acne/rosacea and they didn’t even look at my face and told me to buy that awfully expensive product. Being a doctor doesn’t always mean they know the best.
Footstool Green yikes. i’ve seen you all across the comments just attacking not only susan but HER FANS as well. did you say something bad about a product you’re using? aww did baby get a boo boo? jesus christ chill the fuck out. nobody is forcing you to watch her videos or listen to her and follow her product suggestion or whatever it may be. get over yourself and grow up instead of literally attacking millions of people.
dOcToR. bitches be fucking obsessed with training. detectives go through a decade of qualifications yet some online "sleuth" (same tone which you put "guru") could solve it in a flash. lawyers can completely disobey every law and ethic and be called out by a citizen. Doctor's aren't the epitome of human beings. y'all make me SICK.
The difference between Hyram and Susan, Hyram says “I do not know more than any dermatologist” at the beginning of every video, he works as a skincare specialist outside of RU-vid. Susan says “I may know more than her” about a famous dermatologist, Susan’s only qualification is a journalism degree.
Idk what degree’s she has, or who’s she’s working with but Naturium is A M A Z I N G! Oh and Hyram and others were unconsciously recommending their products which is why I got them and then we all found out they are from SUSAN....and also there’s more than a few people that know much more than those with degrees just sayin my derm f’d me up and an aesthetician fixed my skin...but yes also who doesn’t love dr. Pimple popper 🤷🏻♂️
When Hyram says he's a skincare specialist, that doesn't mean he's a skincare expert! I think he worked for some brand or at some beauty counter or something as a sales assistant who specializes in skincare products! And they gave him the title of a "skincare specialist." But he is quite good and he doesn't have to be an expert for giving good advice! Susan has been in the industry and it's quite apparent that she knows a lot about skincare and products/ brands! No one needs qualification for giving BASIC skincare advice unless the skin has to be diagnosed, treated or worked on.
Hyram says that because he doesn't know shit. He just talks for ages and gives you so little information which you can find out by searching on the internet, or watching the video of an actual dermatologist.
:/ well Susan spent over two decades as a journalist talking with doctors and interviewing them so she has gathered a lot of opinions, not all doctors think the same especially abt skincare
I do believe that she knows more about skincare products than Dr Sandra. Not all dermatologists have to know about 10.000 cosmetics. Susan may know more about all the available products, because it’s her job to recognize it all.
@@leonardograb905 yea obviously Susan is going to know more about the trends and good techniques and doctors are going to know the logistics of how it works cellularly, Susan's job is to present the information that is easy for us to understand as basic consumers
@@leonardograb905 i know, and Susan never claimed she was an esthetician or a dermatologist, we don't see people questioning make up influences if they're makeup artists
Ashley Keading I think it’s a combination of reading lots of reviews, looking at their portfolio, and trial and error. Google reviews are a great start! I tried two aestheticians before I found the girl I use now 😊 but once you’ve found your person it’s the best
One aesthetician ruined my skin. I basically had cystic acne all over my cheeks and I went to her, she popped everything using her fingers and now I am left with scars for life! :) she had good reviews so I wouldnt rely on that. For blackheads and minor skin issues, sure go for it but in case of really cystic acne stick to dermatologist. 😐
@@nicoledice6288 I know that, but I came to a point where dermatologist couldn't help and the aesthetician said that she was able to help and that's all I wanted to hear, sometimes you are just desparate for an improvement I guess.
You trying to tell a dermatologist how to take care about her own skin reminds me of that Jubilee video where Instagram "models" tried to explain to real models why their "job" isn't so differen't then the real models'.
As a med student... Honestly, I don't know how I feel about someone who's had minimal training in medical-skin related training critiquing someone who's had tons of residential and research experience. I'm not saying that to discount her experience as an aesthetician, but something just doesn't sit right with me regarding the comment about knowledge of skin care between the two. As dermatologists, and other health care professionals should do, read updated research papers that are published quite frequently. Now, I understand anyone could read a research paper, but without that prior knowledge that someone like a dermatologist has as it pertains to the subcutaneous physiology that information understood and absorbed is going to be quite limited. Also, it's worth noting that withing a category of medical specialties like dermatology there are subcategories, e.g. cosmetic dermatologists and pediatric dermatologists. Therefore, in my opinion, I believe that a cosmetic dermatologist would know more about active/inactive ingredients than an aesthetician.
Veronica Catherine in 2:52 she says that she can potentially know more than the dermatologist or something like that. Or that they can go head to head in terms of skin care, which is something a don’t agree on, as dermatologists, doctors, have years of training and know which ingredients are actually proven to be effective and actually understand the structure of our skin.
Here after the Naturium announcement, seeing her nodding at a board certified dermatologist, when she claims to be a beauty and lifestyle expert with a Bachelors in Comm. and Journalism from UNM with no formal education as either an aesthetician/dermatologist or nutritionist. I appreciate that Susan was open about her cosmetic procedures, and wish she was more honest about pushing Naturium products, just how she pointed out that Dr Lee was promoting her wipes! Follow what you preach and please dial down the "know-it-all" attitude, be respectful and humble. I work with Nobel Laureates and they still learn something from their graduate students, as the students learn from them. Honestly these reaction videos need to stop! We need more positive vibes in our lives and less narcissism.
Seriously. I never liked these reaction videos. They are so narcissistic and must stop. Let people do their thing without having other people and especially influencers judge them. And Susan Yara has no background education in Dermatology and has no rights to point out a doctor.
Thank you, Hyram as well although he seems to be a cool dude doesn't have any scientific background but all these people judge skincare professionals, like WTF, know your d*mn place.
@@Candyprincess971 Hyram claims to be a 'specialist'. Not sure exactly what that means though, I don't think I've ever heard him elaborate on his educational background. I can't really stand reaction videos... Kinda comes across as lazy content in my opinion, especially if someone builds their entire channel around doing just that. Like, those e-girls who just watch random shit and laugh every now and then lol it's so annoying. And I agree, unless you're on the same exact level, you really don't have any business critiquing a professional. Plus, she didn't really add anything of value to the video. There was just a lot of agreeing and re-iterating or emphasizing what Dr. Lee already said, so this one was kinda pointless. Oh and I HATE the thumbnails for these reaction videos. Like, why the hell is Hyram screaming in nearly every single one of his.
Sorry Susan, this whole video is a little cringe inducing. Your whole “I know more about skincare than a ~licensed~ dermatologist” makes you appear so arrogant with a lack of self awareness. I’ve noticed this in all videos, but this one really stands out. You can display your knowledge without coming off this way. Yikes.
@Isabelle Hughes she literally SAYS in this video you supposedly watched that she "might potentially know more about skincare" than the dermatologist. She also says (in this video) that herself and the doctor could "go head to head". Maybe you need to watch the video before you make yourself look stupid.
@@TheAtl198 I see you've been commenting on several other responses to spew hate. You have a bone to pick or you just hate yourself? Either way, it's ugly and your ugliness is showing.
So a person can't be a little sassy and confident? Who the fuck do you think you are to try and make someone who's built themself not enjoy a fun thing they're doing? Get off the internet. You're probably one of those bad mums who their kids grow up hating because all you do is police everyone.
she actually said that at the beginning of this very video, did you not watch? she said "we (referring to herself and dr lee) could probably go head to head..." might want to watch before you comment.
Plop Plop I guess you didn’t watch it because she did say that....🙄 try getting your information correct before you try to get at someone with that selective ass hearing of yours. Weirdo
She could probably have more of a conversation about skincare with the derma then she could with you... unless of course you're an esthetician or a derma... It's not that deep
Hey hey:) yeah that often happens between Derms and Aestheticians/Dermal Therapists. Each profession has its place. Dermatologists are FANTASTIC are diagnosing skin conditions and prescribing pharmaceuticals to treat said skin condition. Where Dermal Therapists/Aestheticians have a point of difference is they are mainly focused on the cosmeceutical skin care portion, as opposed to prescriptions. Nothing wrong with either, that’s why there are some beautiful relationships between both Dermatologist and Aestheticians who make wonderful skincare products together. What a great combination! One example of where Derms aren’t always correct with their knowledge of skincare is St Ives- it’s it “Dermatologically Tested” however is one of the worst possible things you could use on your skin. Some Dermatologists are very knowledgeable on skincare, others aren’t. That also goes for Aestheticians. Just have to find the right ones!
I think Susan should put under every video a disclaimer that she’s not an expert and she’s only giving advices because a lot of people tend to think she’s one...
Evelyn Ágoston Completely agree. My ignorant ass thought she was a esthetician or worked in the field of dermatology and only just found out reading these comments that she’s not. Completely changed the way I look at these reaction videos.
I also agree on this and the facial expressions on every reaction video is not helping its just making her look judgemental because for me its ok for a dermatologist or a chemist to judge my skincare because they know what they are doing because they studied it for many years and i feel like many people who do go to bed with me that she reacted on arent very pleased because they might know that she is not even a dermatologist, chemist or an esthitician
Yess. Hyram does a disclaimer very often. And not just in the description cause people don’t often read that. He goes out of his way to verbally say them in videos very often. Love that about him
After hearing her say she thinks she can go head to head with a board certified dermatologist doubt she would in her mind she prob thinks she knows more.
Exactly! I only followed her because I thought she was an excerpt. But when I saw the episode where she said not to wash your face in the morning. It made me research her credentials. She's a news reporter who worked the beauty industry for years.
I'm very sorry to say that this video has caused me to unsubscribe. Imagine believing you know more about skincare than a literal doctor who specializes in skin.
“I might potentially know more about skincare than her” .. ok I get the right you have to react and maybe disagree with debated topics on skincare, but you have no qualifications and no right to pretend you know more than a trained doctor. It’s all really pretentious and cringey.
I mean theres a difference between knowing skincare and knowing how to treat certain skin conditions. I think thats why she said that. She obviously isnt a dermatologist so she couldn't help with different skin conditions, but (i think she mentioned this, but i dont remember) she has experience as an esthetician so that is possibly why she said she knows about skincare. But idk
I understood it as saying she could know more about skincare PRODUCT since it's her thing to test so much and Dr. Lee said she doesn't focus so much on that
@@footstoolgreen1979 That's fine, but knowing ingredients/studies and knowing how a formulation actually interacts/feels on skin are two separate things. I think that all are valuable (derms, chemists, industry workers, etc). Frankly, If you--and everyone else taking issue with this video-- do not think that Susan's opinion is valuable, or worth listening to, then why are you here wasting your time and energy on it?
She said skincare as in having a routine. Nothing about treatments for actual skin conditions or diagnosing skin conditions. It’s like I said in another comment, you don’t go to your doctor for body building, you hire a trainer or workout with someone who has knowledge in that area. If I listened to my doctors, I would run all day and never lift weights.
13:11 this is one of the many reasons why you cannot compare to a medical doctor. Having a red face after a yoga class is NOT from inflammation. The whole tone of the video is condescending, sorry but who the hell are you to be approving and disapproving a board certified dermatologist sentence by sentence.
@@nina.harr1ngt0n True, but have you read the comment section? MANY people had critical comments about Susan's audacity to criticize Dr. Lee and even claim that she may know more about skincare than her. Susan has taught many people so much about skincare but the tone of the video DID sound condescending and her critical demeanor seemed egoistic. Responding "it's. Her. Job." to a critical comment that is made many is a very weak point.
I was laughing so hard when Susan tried to say she gets dark spots on her face caused by inflammation when she does hot yoga "happens to me all the time", she said! 😂😂😂
@@nina.harr1ngt0n that she is not qualified for. I only came her because of all the spamming her disciples have done on another channel so I had to watch what all the hoopla is about and I'm not impressed.
What happens after a yoga class or any other physical activity is that you expand energy and your blood vessels dilate to make that easier. That is not the same as inflammation. Redness also does not equal inflammation. Susan has obviously researched a lot about how different skin care products and their ingredients affect your skin, but she does not have the knowledge necessary to distinguish between facts and carefully wrapped up lies to sell the product well. It's great to be confident in your knowledge, but along with that you should realise that you're susceptible to misinformation and mistakes. Susan might have a slight problem with that.
You know, not all doctors are GOOD doctors... and they can make mistakes. I realised it when I met a real good doctor that healed me after many wrong diagnosis.
@@Commedeshommes the complete arrogance is astounding to me. I hope she's reading these comments and realizes how she's coming across. I REALLY hope she's not going to "critique" any more skincare routines because she's totally unqualified.
@@TheAtl198 I agree with Cherisse's comment. Susan is still viable of "critiquing" celebs and other influencers EXCEPT for doctors and others in the related field. It's like saying you can't critique(coomentate) a politician's actions because you're just a citizen (commoner). P.S I'm not angry or anything but my comment seemed like it.
@@timothysmilezzz I'm not upset either. I just don't agree with your analogy because she's not just giving an opinion, she's giving actual advice. So it would be like if I went on RU-vid (I have no political experience but I watch CNN and read a lot) and critiqued politicians and told them how to run their countries. Everyone would be like STFU and they should be. I think I would feel a lot better about all of this if Susan put in a disclaimer at the beginning of her videos, letting people know she is NOT a dermatologist or an esthetician, and not to take her advice over either of those people (like Hyram's disclaimer). A lot of people mistakenly think she has credentials and she never corrects this and she gives advice ALL the time. I think it's sad that we live in a time where people would listen to a self-taught beauty blogger on the internet over a dermatologist or an esthetician, regarding their skin. Also, I'm an RN and Susan gives misinformation ALL THE TIME. I don't get the idea that she knows much about how the human body actually works, which I think is essential in understanding skincare. I respect your opinion, however. In the end we all have our own opinion and that is OK.
@@TheAtl198 Thank you for your input, it's been a while since I had a decent conversation (on the internet). But like what you said, I did notice from watching her videos that there are no disclaimers that she's not a professional in the field. Unlike, James Welsh who most of the time inform his audience that he is in no way a certified professional in the field, and categorizes himself as an enthusiast (pertaining to using a lot of different products then forming an opinion about it). And also explicitly stating that the product he uses may not work for the rest of us even though our skin concerns and skin types are the same.
16:48 she totally paused that moment on purpose, like honestly this whole video vibe is just not good, it’s almost like I’m better than you so therefore I’m gonna judge you even though I didn’t went to school as long as you did nor learn all of those that you learned, but I know better cause I am better in my head kinda of vibe
I do believe that she knows more about skincare products than Dr Sandra. Not all dermatologists have to know about 10.000 cosmetics. Susan may know more about all the available products, because it’s her job to recognize it all.
First off, board-certified is not from "extra training". You finish your training and sit for the board exam and if you pass it, you become board certified in that specific specialty. Second, no matter how much of an expert you think you are in skin-care, you 100% don't know more than an MD/phd in that field. So have some humility and sit down, sis.
Wow…she definitely has expertise on skin. The idea that an esthetician knows more about skin than a Dermatologist is like saying a dietitian knows more about gut health than Gastroenterologist. That’s an absurd deduction. A doctor asserting their expertise doesn’t mean she isn’t humble. You seem like the one needing to have several seats.
Minute 7:50, I've thumbs downed the video and am logging off after I write this. There's too much cringe happening for me because you believe you are more knowledgable about the skin than Mrs. Sandra Lee, America's favorite board-certified dermatologist. Lol. Glad I didn't subscribe.
I only recently discovered this channel and I actually thought Susan is a dermatologist or at the very least an aesthetician, because stupid me thought that only someone who has actually studied this could be so arrogant about their skin care knowledge. Only after watching this video and checking out her educational background I found out that she is in fact a journalist, which really shocked me, because it ISN'T RIGHT not to include a disclaimer regarding this ANYWHERE in the video or in the description! Why is Susan acting like she is actually licensed in this? It's so icky.
Oana Lasconi what!? I bought a whole skincare routine based on her recommendations bc I thought she was an aesthetician or something. I’ve been bamboozled by my own ignorance
@@cattc6946 I do think she's knowledgeable to a certain degree because it does seem like she's been researching this quite a bit, I don't want to minimize the things she does know (she definitely knows a whole lot more than me), but I feel like it's a bit strange not to include a disclaimer that she is not in fact licensed in this. I'm sure that she's a smart woman, I like how she presents herself on camera and she seems very passionate about skincare. I just feel a bit betrayed. That being said, I don't think she would recommend anything bad or something, don't worry too much about the products you bought, and it is really not your fault for assuming she's an aesthetician, I bet many of us did.
Oana Lasconi right. I think she should say that she is NOT an expert and not formally trained. She is a journalist is the beauty field. Everyone should read her “about me” section.
At the end of the day a dermatologist with years of studying ingredients knows more than any skin RU-vidr or esthetician lol. I don’t think it’s safe to say you can go head and head with someone who has studied the actual science of skincare and skin function for 10+ years. A dermatologist agenda might be different than someone who does facials sure, but at the end of the day it’s safe to say the doctor knows more.
Lol.. Why criticise a dermatologist 😂 a little bit arogant. Thats her routine. Means it works for her. Skin.. Every race have different skin types and elasticity. 😂🤣 Shes has more way knowledge than u girlll
Her commenting that she might know more about skin care than a board certified dermatologist is very uhmmm arrogant. I stopped watching after 2:58. Bye!
@@h.l.211 oh I'm so sorry! Is Susan your "skincare QUEEN"? Lmao. Like she would even notice you, which is kind of sad on both sides. 😂 she is a complete egotistical narcissist and you admire her. Have a great night!
I actually never watch her or other skin care 'expert' reaction till the end because i feel like why do i have to listen to this people? Lmao they feel so mighty about skincare lmao idk why 😂😂😂
this is the second person with a youtube channel I've seen just today critiquing people's skincare routine like experts...who have no degree or license in skincare. just research. give tips all day long but to have the arrogance to critique an actual and legit skin dr is so weird to me. and she's nodding like giving her approval....as if the actual dr needs it lol
or she's just nodding because she agrees? if you watch her other videos she nods a lot...I think using her nodding as evidence of arrogance is reading too far into it
The hubris in this video is ASTOUNDING. You literally don’t have a degree relevant to skincare? Why do you think you know more than a board certified dermatologist? That’s like me saying I know more than a politician because I have Twitter. The arrogance!
@SpONgEboB sQUarEpaNTs so your question is "why would she (Susan) be jealous?", implying that since Susan's net worth is much more than the doctor's, Susan is someone to be jealous of. Like money is everything. No one here cares how much money they have. Looks like Susan's millions could not buy her a medical degree or the intelligence to become a doctor, huh? Maybe the reason she has such a HUGE ego is that she agrees with you and bases her worth as a person on money? Who knows? I do know her priorities are not right as she fangirls over and praises Paris Hilton (who is literally famous only for having money) and does not show any respect to someone with vastly superior intelligence in a very difficult job.
@SpONgEboB sQUarEpaNTs that's how you feel and that's fine. I disagree. I'd rather be a doctor than a beauty blogger, which is an unstable career dependent on the whims of a-holes like us on the internet.
I literally subscribed this morning and now I’m unsubscribing. You think you could go head to head with her because you go get $1000 facials and can read product labels? You aren’t a doctor, you’re not even an esthetician. It’s time to know your place and let the air out of the giant ego you have
So many people told me this routine was a mess, but when I watched, I thought she was great! I hope you guys enjoyed this one. It got a ton of requests!
You know, so many people are so sure they know everything and are so stubborn about it. That's why this kind of series are great. And also so many people think that dermatologists, aestheticians (and formulators) know everything and are perfect but they're not, so thank you.
Came here from the news about her FTC violations. As a fellow UNM Alumni, I’m sorry she represents us like idiots. I idolize Dr. Pimple Popper and her expertise. This lady is ignorant 😳
Just a thought, but I think that when you're making videos like these you should at least provided evidence based article that can support what you're saying. The claims you're making can deviate people from seeking a professional's opinion.
Susan is extremely condescending throughout the entire video ("I really hope she's going to use a cleanser after that makeup wipe" - really? have a bit more faith in a dermatologist, wow) and I think it would be far more professional for Susan to take this down and only judge other skincare enthusiasts and not professionals. Even YOU know that dermatologists have debate and differing opinions among themselves (which is why most people even end up seeing multiple pros) so who are you to add to the mix? You're not a doctor after just reading the conclusions to a few papers, Susan. I doubt you would say half of what you've said here to her face. Normally love your series but this was super disappointing (and the comments + like to dislike ratio speak for themselves).
... You made up lies lol. Commenters were complaining, and Susan did her part by telling them what the product consisted of. Stop making up rubbish that never happened. I absolutely hate when people assume and make up nonsense to fit their agenda. This is how conspiries happen. Take thing out of context, make up a story and post it for the hateful, gulible people to see. What's sad is, americans will believe everything. They would even look at the whole thing (in correct context), but apply the negative agenda over it (the negative tone they have already absorbed), making the correct tone invalid.
While I do think Susan is very knowledgeable about the skin and how you can take care of it with products and treatments, you could NEVER convince me that she is ‘head-to-head’ with a board certified dermatologist. That comment comes across as very ignorant, especially coming from someone who works so closely with dermatologists, aestheticians... Susan’s said it herself in multiple videos: dermatologists have gone to school for years to study the skin. They are required to adapt themselves to new discoveries about the skin and products everyday, read reports and studies, come out with studies themselves. They know so much more. I don’t doubt that she knows a great deal about what goes on the industry and the medical world, but just because you’re related to this topic through your job, could never mean that you are head-to-head with a real doctor. Just because she isn’t a skincare junkie, doesn’t mean that she knows less than Susan about it. Besides knowing the skin, knowing about skincare and ingredients is literally a dermatologists’ job. When you haven’t studied the skin in school, but have come close to this topic because of what you do, you know a lot about the surface stuff. The stuff that anyone could research online. Doesn’t make you more informed about skincare than someone who has gone to school for this. There is a reason why I would rather go see her than Susan if I had to choose. Susan is just not a dermatologist. I mean she literally didn’t know that some sunscreens have certain kinds of molecules in them that have to bind on receptors on the skin so that the sunscreen can become functional. I didn’t know that either. Just like Susan, I’m not a dermatologist. Every dermatologist knows this. I don’t know, that comment was just so ignorant.
I agree, Dermatologists may specialize in lasers, extreme conditions, etc, and may not have the time or desire to follow every new product on the market and be able to tell you "is night cream XXX a good one?". It doesn't make them a bad Dermatologist.
Barb Bellmont that’s true but they can also look at the ingredients and tell you if it’s a good product or not in many cases. Also, trends and new products don’t change the research. We know what’s been proven to be beneficial to the skin and sticking to that vs some new trendy ingredients is almost always the way to go so why would they stay up to date on unproven products?
@@skinsciencebymira, I agree if the ingredient list is straightforward, and then you could Google them yourself, but so many products now have "proprietary" ingredients that you may not be able to tell what some of the stuff is. LOL
Barb Bellmont I wasn’t referring to Googling but rather a dermatologist utilizes actual research since they not only have access to PubMed, Wiley, JAD, and other free access databases that have published articles but also access to private ones that are only for medical providers, scientists, university employees, etc. But you can definitely do the research yourself if you’re just wanting to get an idea of what’s worth your time! Googling “topical studies” combined with the ingredients name can pull up enough to get you a general idea, just make sure you’re looking at actual research and studies. Also take a look at the concentrations used. Niacinamide for example has a lot research in the 2-5% range so if you see niacinamide listed after the preservative which is usually approximately 1% then you know the niacinamide in your product is probably not worth much efficacy wise. Lotioncrafter is also a really solid resource just as far as pulling up typical usage rate, they’re a cosmetic ingredient supplier I’ve purchased from many times over the years and they utilize both research and manufacturer information for those recommended usage rates. Yeah... if it’s some unheard of ingredient with no evidence that’s part of their proprietary formula then I ignore lol. If there’s other proven ingredients in effective concentrations then those unproven ingredients are fine provided they’re safe and non-irritating. Brand claims mean nothing to me without evidence to back it up. And from a consumer standpoint too if you don’t stick to what’s proven then it’s just too easy to get confused by all the different claims and overwhelmed with the options.
Even if you’re gentle I don’t like disposable cotton pads or makeup wipes because it’s such a waste and terrible for the environment. Plus the cost adds up.
Aly Aeschbacher I like using the makeup eraser! They recently were selling this version that comes with multiple smaller pads. Or any similar alternative should be good too :)
Aly Aeschbacher I recommend a ‘Face Halo’ they remove makeup, you can use them to remove masks, or even to remove makeup off of a makeup brush, and it’s good to support great small businesses
@@aly.sacredspaceholder use either the Makeup Eraser reusable cloths or try using gels instead of micelar water to remove your make up without any extra tools.
Whyyyyy dr lee is a respected dermatologist stop trying to bring her down it takes work to get to where she is. Just stop you don’t know more, she is licensed 😤🤦♀️
Me too. I only use them when i'm camping and literally have no other choice. I also can't see how just tapping her skin with a wipe would have done anything? They're meant to 'wipe'.
for what it's worth, I think that part was just pure ad. It doesn't make sense in my head to have a makeup remover AND a wipe, followed by an actual cleanse.
I don't like to do a bunch of unnecessary laundry so on the days I do wear makeup, I put on my cold cream and use a makeup wipe or two to wipe it off. Then I go in and cleanse and moisturize. Otherwise I'd be having to use a washcloth which means doing more laundry.
@@raecooper2719 I understand! I'm just wondering, have you ever tried cleansing oils or balms to remove your makeup? The products that are oil-based but also contain emulsifiers so they rinse clean with water like a regular cleanser? No makeup wipes or washcloths necessary with those. Just throwing it out there ;)
@@perfumaphilia3246 I don't like the feeling of trying to clean something oil based off my face if that makes sense? So once I put it up there I need to wipe it off with something else first. I have a weird thing about textures and mixing oils with cleansers feels disgusting to me. I also can't try a bunch of new products because my skin has become sensitive as I have gotten older so anytime I try something new I always have some type of reaction.
Has anybody watched Susan's videos where she analyses skincare routines alongside a dermologist. She is sooo different in those videos...almost scared to disagree with the dermotolgist...and is pretty much a parrot...who mimics comments made by that derm. Her arrogance only comes to the surface in a her reaction..where no one is onha d to contradict (or more like ..correct) her.
Susan Yara, how dare you criticize a board-certified dermatologist's knowledge? This attitude of yours is very off-putting. As someone who works in medical education (with an advanced degree), I find it disrespectful that you are disregarding one's many years of education and training and comparing it to your superficial knowledge.
And thats it. I defo hate susan yara. She always thinks she knows more and better just because she works side by side with some doctors whatsoever. Jezzzzus. Stick to journalism.
One more thing: have anyone heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect? It should now change its name to Dunning-Kruger-Yara effect. “DescriptionIn the field of psychology, the Dunning-Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with low ability at a task overestimate their ability. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their lack of ability.”