Where’s the David Tennent review. I’m in no position in telling you on how you should run your own RU-vid channel but shouldn’t you Finnish with the doctors before doing the companions.
@@sammiller3505 It's quite an involved and time-consuming process to research and make a "Doctor" video to these standards. Whilst some "Companion" videos will also need significant work, I'd imagine that most would be comparatively less time-consuming to produce, so they can be slotted between "Doctor" videos if it turns out that way.
Can understand you. Watching documentations of those days Susan´s moves are not appearing so odd for us nowdays. The productions with French and Italien teams were the most experimental in this field. Compare for example the German/French/Italien coproduction RAUMPATROUILLE - RAUMSCHIFF ORION ( SPACESHIP ORION - as it was also called in novelised form ) Here as an example on RU-vid: Raumpatrouille Orion - Tanz den Rücksturz ( Teil 4 von 7); put on the Net by KoenigVonWestfalen. Regrettably this " experiment of the Germans with Space Opera Science Fiction on the screen was stoped right after the first season. It went on then in novelised form. Also a handicap for the worldwide sale had been the making in Black and White. An American Station almost had bought the international rights on it but pulled out again when this became known to them.
@@Eric_1991 You're probably right, according to Wikipedia transistor radios became very popular at the time. The first models from 1954 were very expensive and not very reliable, but that changed over the next years. In 1962 you could get one for $15 (~145 today). I wasn't aware they've been accessible and affordable that early.
I've seen so many people making suggestions as to who should've been the timeless child and literally every single one of them are so good. Literally anyone else but the doctor was a better option to be the timeless child
@@reddemon13xzhonestly as good of an idea that is.. I wouldn’t do that. The doctor and Susan left Gallifrey with the hand of Omega all those centuries ago and never gone back. It’s best left that reason untold
@@ChibiSteakI actually heard something. I heard that the reason that Chanball left a lot of stuff open ended was that, just like with Susan and the Doctor in the premiere, he wanted to let future writers and media build upon it. Maybe it will be improved there, like with Big Finish.
It's sad that Susan was so mistreated. She could've been such a good character. Leaving an alien girl with a grown human man to marry was just horrible from the Doctor
@@Liz-lq8hw its also stated in a lot of the expanded universe that a lot of what we know about timelord biology doesnt apply to their first incarnation, for example some timelords only have one heart until they regenerate for the first time. This could mean they feel the efffects of age a lot more as well.
Another great video. I simply cannot overstate just how much of a fan i am of your videos. Even if i say "best Doctor Who based youtuber of all time", it's still an understatement. Keep up the fantastic work.
Me too. Make that a third vote. He is the perfect Dr Who commentator. Insightful, well researched, well produced and unique. He is doing what I always wanted to do, as I think at its best Dr Who is not just the best TV series ever but the most important. It is the Beatles of TV which is perfect as the Dr and his early companions often mentioned them. Having said that however at its worst Dr Who can be utterly dreadful. From 'Eleanor Rigby' to 'Ebony and ivory'. From profound and deep to nasty and cheap. All thanks to the interruption by politics which 'Clever' so carefully relates. So I am out of a job. I feel like Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys after Sgt Peppers. I quit!
Despite her faults I enjoy susan as her history and dynamic with the first doctor makes her a standout among a long list of companions who often were either friends or love interests.
Susan is such a weird character for me because I ultimately agree with every criticism stated by fans and the actress herself, but I can't help but love her character nonetheless. For me, she gets a lot of passes for being the literal Doctor's granddaughter. I think that adds to the character, and I do think Susan added something to that original team.
Susan was also in two of the Unbound stories which are set in an Alternative Timeline where Her and The Doctor never left Gallifrey. She was brilliant and her chemistry with the Alternate Doctor played by Geoffrey Bayldon is really beautiful.
Just listening to your voice makes me feel more intelligent. Seriously though, the prospect of you tackling the companions and videos like these - sort of like a sister series to your main documentary is magnificent
I’ve always had such a soft spot for susan. Although there are future female companions I grew to like more like liz sladen, jo, ace, rose, amy pond etc. But susan had the swinging sixties hip chick swagger down to a science. I’m just recently finding hartnell to be one of the most interesting, underrated drs of them all. I can find so much to like in a episode like space museum or planet of giants. Anybody with me?
William Hartnell is my second favourite doctor, behind Jon Pertwee. The 1st doctor era is so underrated in my eyes. I love The Romans, Planet Of Giants and The Space Museum, just to name a few stories :)
Susan is a character that took a while to grow on me. Though I quite liked her as she appeared in the first episode, and (as pointed out here) at various points in individual stories, I agree that Carol Ann Ford was given a raw deal in the way her character was allowed to develop. It took rewatching the entire Hartnell run to appreciate some of the subtleties she brought to the role, at which point the character took on more psychological complexity for me... and I would say that was entirely due to the actress herself, rather than the scripts, in most cases. While still not my favorite among the companions, I've grown rather fond of the character, and she has a special place in my regard. I've not had a chance to hear any of her performances in the Big Finish productions, so I'm very glad she's been given a chance to let the character breathe. I think both Carol Ann and the character deserve that, and it's long overdue.
Here is my impression of Susan: AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH But to be serious, I would love a scene with an older Susan holding her own granddaughter & 13 getting to meet her great-great-grandaughter.
I like Susan quite abit. I really liked how she was written by Big Finish in the Early Adventures. I can’t wait to hear her in the CC and her box set. I really hope the next companion video is both Ian and Barbara since it’s hard to separate anything about them without mentioning the other.
I really like Susan and the chemistry between her and William Hartnell. I just wish sometimes they would have given her more to do than just being the scared little girl.
I think the second version of An Unearthly Child really helped all the characters, her especially. She's less off putting, with her original announcements, mainly the decimal system, toned down a bit.
Tardis Eruditorium Volume 1 does a very good job of addressing the character of Susan and it's misuse of the character as "The Problem of Susan". Basically, because of the character's age, it deals with two seemingly but contradictory facets with her character. Part teenage sexuality and part Doctor's granddaughter, this works ultimately against Susan and her character being written out of the series ends up being the only inevitable solution.
I believe the author, Elizabeth Sandifer, was referring to the classic series. Susan might have been showcased occasionally, like her brief stint in The Five Doctors, but as a full-fledged, flesh and blood recurring character, at least in the classic series, we really don't hear much about her. The Doctor, in the classic series, had more of a connection with his companions, like Jo Grant or Sarah Jane Smith.
Whenever the classic series is mentioned, it refers to the years 1963-1989. We are not talking about BBC books, New Virgin Line, comics, K-9 & Company, Torchwood, the reboot of the series (circa 2005), or anything else. If it was shown on television between the years 1963 and 1989, that is what is referred to the classic series. Not NuWho. But seriously, Kenneth, I want to personally thank you for putting the spotlight on this part of the thread. As long as you keep arguing about it (I am not interested in arguing with you, I just want you to keep telling me where I am wrong), you do me a favor by bringing more interest into this part of the thread. Thank you, again.
@@johnlane2585 As you argue, it is like Susan couldnt handle herself and just was the victim in every episode and only was there to bring in the young boys and men to watch the show. You argue as if Susan "only" was/being "eyecandy" and the "damsel in distress" and as such she could "easily" be written out of the show. I argue against that for one simple reason. The show isnt and has never been about Susan. Thats the reason she could so easily be written out. Nothing else. Not her "age", not her "sexuallity" not her "ending up in trouble so the Doctor must save her trope". This; that everyone is a victim under the circumstances are getting old. Quickly.
Like much of Big Finish, Susan gets a proper outing and some meaty, truly epic stories and she's got her own spin off, Susa's War, part of the Time War series. It's brilliant.
I’d love to see a Saga of Susan series with the stories we know already shown from her pov. The assumption being that we watched the original shows from Grandfather’s perspective.
Absolutely wonderful! I love all your analysis! I was thrilled to hear you include her Big Finish appearances as well. An Earthly Child is one of my favourite Eighth Doctor adventures and the tragedy she suffers in To The Death was always so heartbreaking to me.
Sounds good to a Doctor Who fan but to the general audience it likely makes no sense. Well... She could've been introduced earlier in Series 12, maybe meet her with Nikola... I mean she likely knows how to time travel and I doubt she'd pass on Tesla
@@Liz-lq8hw Why would this be a good twist exactly? "Doctor, your granddaughter who hasn't appeared onscreen in decades was the Timeless Child all along, the origin of the Time Lord's ability to regenerate!" "Why didn't I know? Is she even still alive? Did she survive the Time War, and if so, does that mean you killed her?" "You know what, those are all very good questions with very good answers, but I'm not a good person so I won't tell you."
I think it's her clear Audrey Hepburn vibe that got her the job. I agree so wholeheartedly on the missing of of a great opportunity. I kept expecting it to pay off. However much like the Lost tv series nothing really came out of all the little teases of something more.
Fantastic! I didn’t really warm up to Susan as fast as I did the other companions at the beginning of the Hartnell era. Thanks to your excellent documentary on Susan I’ll pay even more attention to her as I rewatch my favorite early Hartnell episodes ! Great video as always and looking forward to more of your companion series!
Love these. Another excellent and well researched video as expected. We need one on every single companion, villain, character, alien race, planet, and so on, in your entertaining and informative style. Shouldn't take you more than a few hundred years, and only a couple of regenerations.
Ace had a lot more of a consistent vision on TV, but you can see how that advancement kind of falls apart in the books. Oddy i've started to get the view that companions are the one that should get the development an change.
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But Ace has a character of her own and it's more active and independent. Susan behaves like a troublesome child even when she's not a child anymore.
I really like Susan, been watching her stories back. She was a quite fun character. I kind of want her to come back. The Doctor still hasn't gone back for her. It would be cool to see her with Jodie just to see her adjust to knowing her grandfather as a grandmother.
Having Susan with Martial Arts skills and telepathy would have made a MUCH different Doctor Who series! I think I'd have enjoyed that version just as much, especially if Ian couldn't fight and Susan was able to perform like River in Firefly, as long as she abhorred weapons.
Wow, so much information I never knew. Great job on the research. Carole Ann Ford is such a great actor who could have brought so much more to the role of Susan.
Excellent, always a joy to watch your documentaries. Like how you brought it right up to date with the Big Finish material. Proper tragedy the story arc she had with the 8th Doctor.
Another splendid video. I had the honour of working on the Five Doctors, and was leaked the 'Bugger, I've Lost them" Dalek clip. I also twice interjected an answer to Carol Anne Ford when she addressed the audience at the last two Dr Who Proms. I am rather geekish too. I did not know anything of her Big Finish work though and am delighted to learn it ! Many thanks and keep it up. Another splendid discovery is that her character was going to be named Bridget, Biddy - which is my Sister's name and nick name. My Father worked on the early shows too :-)
Its so weird how simultaneously important yet unimportant Susan is to the greater Dr Who mythos. On the one hand, she’s a shrieking violet, one of the show’s worse examples in fact. She barely has any agency, character growth, or really anything interesting outside the Pilot episode. Yet at the same time, she’s the Doctor’s granddaughter, his flesh and blood, the one person the Doctor brought with him when he decided to leave Gallifrey. So much weight is retroactively placed on Susan as the scope of the Doctor and the Time Lords expanded putting her in a weird limbo of “pretty important” and “kind of pathetic”.
Never liked her, honestly - not that it was Carol-Anne Ford's fault, of course. Susan never really got a chance to shine because this was the 60s and they thought that a damsel in distress was needed.
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Also, there's the part about the original intention. They meant to make an educational programme, Susan was meant to be the child that gets in troubles and needs help and counselling from adults, very much like fairy and moral tales work.
Thanks for using the clip at 14:54. Orbital sampled it when they performed their remix of the Doctor Who theme at Glastonbury in 2004. Very appropriate, considering the doctor would indeed come back very shortly.
Another amazing production to add to my collection of officially unofficial Doctor Who Bonus features to accompany the series! Love the accompanying subtitle files as always!
Great stuff! I hope this series continues to cover all the companions. Of particular interest was Carole-Anne's career after the TV series. The Big Finish CDs. Very enjoyable, well written and narrated, absolutely top marks Richard.👏👏
Thank you so much for starting this series. I feel like the modern show has had a very restrictive idea of what a companion is or must be, and an overview of how all the Classic companions (and maybe Big Finish ones) worked, the different kinds of relationship with the Doctor, and especially how they left the show, would be very interesting to see.
I think she is biologically related to the Doctor, but in some way that she knows and he doesn't. Like maybe she was sent backwards along her grandfather's timeline. With all the lore that was only added to the show after she left, I think it makes more sense than not that there would be something timey-wimey involved in their relationship. Hehe, maybe she's Jenny's daughter or something to do with River :) If they do bring her back in the modern series -- and the chaotic kitten part of me hopes those rumors are true, just 'cause she's gonna be old enough to be the grandparent of the character she'll still be calling "grandfather" -- if they do, I hope they tie her relationship with the Doctor into something that's happened since she left. Not so much to solve the mystery, maybe, but adding just enough context to things we've already seen to deepen it.
Wow! Another well researched and superbly crafted video. Lovely to see the Big Finish productions being included too. Thank you for the time and work you clearly put into this.
This was great...It makes me want more...MORE!!! It makes me wonder, who you would do next, and how you would do certain companions?!!! But you are grouping together some Companions, so that's good!!!
It makes sense to group together certain companions who entered and left at more or less the same time...Ben and Polly, Ian and Barbara and Amy and Rory (eventually)
The background 'music' when Susan is in telepathic contact with the Sensorites was reused extenively in the early years of ITV's 'The Tomorrow People'.
A fantastic “if you pardon the pun “ companion piece to your main retrospectives! If it means we get to see more content from you on a more regular occasion then it’s a great thing👍
when I saw her in an unearthly child I was really looking forward to her as a companion, then she immediately proceeds with the shrieking... I was really relieved when they replaced her with Vikki, whom I adore.... great chemistry with the doctor and bubbly personality over all, can't wait for your video on vikki
Susan has always been a better concept than realization unfortunately. Thankfully Carole Ann Ford seems keen on Big Finish. I still hold out she reappears again on TV, that'd be monumental I think
Wow!!! even the companion videos. I really enjoy your videos, and thank you for making them. I'm having fun watching them. Can't wait for the other vids.
Just finished watching this! Another awesome video under your belt! Well done brother!! A fine start to another video series. I was shocked about how much I didnt know about Carol Ann Ford! Your video series is THE finest Doctor Who retrospective I've ever seen! Keep up the fantastic work and I'm looking forward to the next videos! Take care brother!!
The way I envision doctor who ending is with the doctor, in whatever regeneration they are on at the time, returns to Susan, tired and ready to retire from the Tardis. Then, maybe Susan will take the tardis for a run
I like the idea of Susan far better than the execution. Given what's going on more recently, I've begun wondering if Susan is actually the Doctor herself?
When Susan told Ping Cho she was the same age as her (16) I suppose the script writer and editor were just following assumptions. As far a Susan the character is concerned I wonder if she said she was the same age because to respond that she was (say 104) would have freaked out someone she wanted to be friends with. One of the original reasons put forward for the Doctor (and Susan) leaving as voiced by the second Doctor at the end of War Games was that he (and presumably she) wanted to experience and explore other times and cultures. Which perhaps explains why she was at the school in the first place as if you think about it, coming from such an advanced culture attending school for her would have been like an mature adult enrolling as a pupil in a nursery!
My thinking: Folks in charge rethought having another alien/esp-gifted human that would potentially absorb attention away from the DR was not the path they wanted to travel, so they regenerated her character into a damsel in distress, & by such transformation insuring she would never rival the DR’s knowledge & wisdom, introducing one of the first sci fi side kicks on a tv series. She wanted more, she got less, she walked.
I've given up trying to think of superlatives to describe the sheer quality and dedication you have shown yet again. I hope the rumours I've heard are true, that you're being inducted into the Prydonian Chapter in recognition of your peerless historical work regarding one of its most renowned members and now his family as well.
oh my goodness thank you so much for this!! i adore her so much and its really nice to see someone else taking the time and effort to create sometrhing like this!!
To be fair it’d would have been a bit difficult to have a child actress appear on a weekly basis in a British television series in the Sixties considering the production process!
Another superlative episode in your range of Dr.Who uploads. Something to bridge the gap for the much anticipated Tennant Era instalment. What a treat. I don't mind Susan to be honest, it's always interesting to see the companions represent the era in which Dr.Who was produced ; as you state a hell of a lot more could have been done with her character - I admire her bravery and the fact she grew up before our eyes although it was a very 'sudden'. Am looking forward to more for sure (as always). Thank you so much you are, and for me, have been an inspiration. Best always Crab x
I hope that she will comeback on the show, so we can have more information about her... Something great for the show (but not the actress) would be to make her regenerate at the end of an episode and the New incarnation of Susan could be a new companion for the doctor!
