Dragon Age: Inquisition - Cole and Solas in the Fade 

Thank you for this. Did you use wiki or was it just skillful observance?

THANK YOOOOUUUUUUUU!!!!! OHMERGERD, i've been DYING to know what he said to Solas! And lol, i know that egghead well apparently, i toltally called what he said in response. X,D Question: where did you go to look up the different words? I've only been able to get bits and peices, but never peice together the entire sentence.

Nice copy paste

Please teach me

@@iknowimwrongbut563 I got it from the wiki lol. People kept asking what it meant

oh god. what a mess :')

liszst i had cole, bull, and cassandra when i first walked the fade. cole and bull were like scared children while cassandra was the older sister that is done with everything.

I’ve never taken Bull(I don’t like using fade-sensitive companions on fade related missions)so I can only assume he just started trying to scale one of those floating rocks while saying “fuck this,fuck that,fuck everything”

“Spiders would be an improvement over what I saw..”

liszst same. I

It hits very differently after playing Trespasser Dlc.

Its called nostalgia

I mean the Fade used to be part of the world, right, before he put up the Veil to save his people. So for him it's more like being... home in a way.

I need to hug him and so many others!!

@Aeolwn No ew! Sad man needs hugs!

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*presses X*

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Cole ain't falling for that shit lol

Don't you just love them both? hahaha

Yup :D haha

I understand Solas' enthusiasm, but so not the time! Also, there should have been an option to give Cole a hug and try to find something fun to do to make him feel better.

Yes because poking the face worked out so well with Tevinter....they only unleashed the worst thing in cosmos on Thedas.

And the Inquisitor made me want to punch him in the face!👊 If anyone should have remained behind in the Fade. Its the asshole who brought them their to begin with! Along with with the worst Warden Commander of all-time. Clarel, if that's how you spell her name? That idiot launched an attack against Corypheus dragon, that destroyed the bridge that the Inquisitor and Champion of Kirwall, was standing on. Almost killing two of Thedas most powerful defenders! The stupid bitch!

@@endershepard7117 Solas entire plan was to enter the Fade and then bring down the Veil. Leaving him behind could have horrible consequences, if he survived the Nightmare (which he probably would).

@@Luks2820 I lost a lot of respect for the Inquisitor, during the attack on Adamant Fortress. The fact that he or she didn't see it as an option to sacrifice themselves, so the others could escape the Fade. Shows how much the Inquisitor has changed since being so noble during the sacking of Haven. When as the Herald of Andraste. He/she decided to stay behind and face The Elder One. To save everyone else. Imagine how shocking and cool it would have been. As the player. If we had the option of sacrificing our Inquisitor to the Fade and have Hawke become the new Inquisitor, from that point on, in the story?! The Herald of Andraste could have had a quick farwell to his love intetest, if they were in your squad. And to the Champion of Kirkwall, the Herald of Andraste could have said, "The Inquisition is in your hands now. Take good care of her!" How much of a Bamf move, would that have been?!

Addendum... Furthermore. There is no way that my Hawke would have just laid down his life for some dude he just met, like a few days ago! No matter if multitudes of people are calling him or her. The Herald of Andraste or not. That was so fucking unbelievable and unrealistic! The Champion of Kirkwall was the Herald of Andraste's ally not his or her lapdog or flunky... If the player selects, The Champion of Kirkwall, to sacrifice themself. Every player should have received this clapback at the Inquisitor from Hawke. Shaming the Inquisitor by saying.... "Like hell, I will. This mess we're in, is of your making, Inquisitor. If anyone should stay behind to give the rest of us a fighting chance to get out of here and back home. Its you! The Breach has been sealed. That Mark on your hand, no longer matters. And neither, do you!" Oh yeah. And when Hawke takes over the Inquisition. You get to recruit some old friends, as new squadmates. Fenris, Merril and your surviving sibling. How cool, would that have been!

​@@endershepard7117 ah, yes leave behind the person with the mark and doom the world .corypheus would still reopen the breach and doom the world. "Like hell, I will. This mess we're in, is of your making, Inquisitor. If anyone should stay behind to give the rest of us a fighting chance to get out of here and back home. Its you! The Breach has been sealed. That Mark on your hand, no longer matters. And neither, do you!" "coming from the person who barley saved their own city,and helped the person who started the mage and templar WAR ,AND freed corypheus WHO MIND YOU started this whole thing by killing the divine,bringing the ventori,corrupting the templar's with red lyrium,tried to assassinate the empress and summon a demon army while having the wardens under his control AND RIPPED A GIANT HOLE IN THE SKY . If anyone should die IT'S YOU!"

Not bad for a mage killing demon.

Maybe because no one would believe it at that point. Also would have ruined the surprise lol

He did in a way. The translation is close to "Have you learned, trickster? That was no victory. Your pride will be your death."

@@jeanlindner9817 That's true. What better way to mess with someone than to drop certain words and hints to one's friends about their secrets 😭. The paranoia of what if they figure it out

Because it is a fear demon, and what Solas fears is to be exposed. Once exposed, Solas would have nothing else to fear and the demon would have no more hold over him. So he poked at the fear instead, making it grow, pushing Solas right over the edge - thinking he was going to be exposed but never really doing so.

Probably because it could see his plans and wanted him to succeed so it could leave the fade and gorge itself on fear

Old comment, but I always saw Cole as more of a son towards my Inquisitor. He seemed to have some paternal responses to Cole sometimes. It was nice!

I agree, Raven, poor Cole, must indeed protect

The entire fade must die

I know right him a corphynus (listened to sera to much) should switch places as the main villian

Tristan McCray Yeah, it's such a waste. He only get's what, like 7 lines in the entire portion of the game?

This is what I was going to ask! XD I'm curious because Solas talks, for example, here or in the quest of his "spirit" friend, I was like... I don't understand ANYTHING of what you are saying. I was hoping in my elf playthrough I could read what he says... but I see the answer is NO... That is something I think they could have done different :( So difficult was to add english substitltes if you are an elf and they are talking in elven?

Aya Miyu actually..i was wrong. it was when josephine tried to speak elven, there was no translation. When doing the spirit quest it is translated =) YAY

^^_^ Awesome, those really are good news. Can't wait to play with my elf and see!!!!! (But first to finish my human-female-mage playthrough!) Maybe even there are some options of conversation where he/she (the inquisitor, I mean) says something in elven (even if it's just with Solas or talking with some NPC?) Do you know?

Aya Miyu well...partially. My char is romacing solas and sometimes he speaks a few words elven. But then the subtitle is elven to...but it will be most likely "farwell my love" or something like that. I am thrilled to read what the demon has to say to him =)

Raz0rking SPOILER "Dirth ma, Harellan" has something to do with Dread Wolf/Trickster and Banal Nadas is "Nothing Inevitable"

Simran Whitham I took Blackwall cause his connection to the grey warden triggered a line that made them switch sides

the exact translation is: They will find out about it dread wolf. and they will hate you for your unlingering pride (if you notice solas means pride and since it isnt capitalized its referring to pride and not his name) solas: inevitable

Macder10 how did you translate it?

i just translated it word for word using DA ancient elvish codex's again WITH the subtitles. if you add grammar to it what the demon exactly says: I tell you,noble rebel,You have no comfort in your loss. Your pride is dead. in my first translations i messed up with the words

Macder10 thank you for translating! I was looking for one

Ending of the game. *spoiler

he is an elven god so he probably did walk the fade thousand times before

@@goktwokyu he created it

@@vern3899 fade is not created by solas it was only torn from the waking world by the veil he casted

@@goktwokyu it was the veil wasn't it...wow, sorry lol

I don't think he realized. He was too busy having a nerdgasm to consider how others might feel.

Look closely, at 2:14, to the very left side of the hole in the ''sky''. There's the silouette of the Black City

Ludd the luddite 2 years later I know, but that is SOOO cool. I never noticed that before.

Treize Khushrenada blackwall is the best to do the sense talking

If I am correct, a compassion spirit becomes a fear demon when it is corrupted. Therefore, he was in the exact opposite of the place where he should be in the fade. Not to mention he went there in human form.

Keep in mind, this is EXTREMELY rough translation... some words were not on the wiki, so that's why there are '__' spaces... sorry if it does not help much. Demon: Dirth ma, harellan. Ma banal enasalin. Mar Solas ena mar din. Solas: Banal nadas Demon (translation): Tell me, trickster. I __ you are greatful to withstand loss. __ Solas appear __ not. Solas (translation): ___ inevitable

MiniMinccino Nice! Thank you! ^^

MiniMinccino Yeah, thanks!

You're welcome :)

MiniMinccino Well, to add, because the one word is "enasalin" and not just "enasal" it would be a loss from within something. So you are correct, but adding that tidbit adds more to what the demon is saying. A joyful relief or a triumph over loss from within.

He is a "god" already according to the ending of the game... u.u

Luis Callirgos The ending does not say that he is a God. Solas himself said that, those they call elven Gods are not Gods, but very powerful elven mages. Solas (dread wolf) is a powerful mage, who inprisoned the old gods, which is why he is thought of as a trickster. His agenda is obviously tied to the orb as a key to enter the fade physically. This is why he gave the magical elven orb to Corypheus, because Solas did not have the magical strength to use the orb (this is how desperate Solas is). And when he enters the fade with the inquisitor, then he is very excited to be near the black city. This suggests that there is something about the black city, which is strongly tied to his agenda in the fade. Solas is also very concerned with true elven culture and history, which he might want to restore somehow. This could be his ultimative agenda. This is probably also why he only wants to mate/romance with a female elven mage. So the conclusion must be, that Solas and Mythal wants to rebuild the true elven culture, which they need the fade and the black city to do. How it all fits together in detail is totally unknown.

All of that is common knowledge, do you understand the " " between god in my statement right xD? besides for all the crazy theories out there we still have to wait for bioware to decide wich one ( or perhaps another crazy one) is the "canon" one... Meanwhile I stick Solas being Fen´ harel (obviously Elven pantheon aren´t "gods" but remarkable elven with the power of the orbs to channeling some unknown power for ancient elven) the old gods- Tevinter¨s- that as many said are the forgotten gods ( the dark part of the elven pantheon), Flemeth still alive? consumed by fen harel? or she just jumped onto his body cause in need of a new one?(many "sorrys" on that little talk to be clear) just some other loose ends, like the Architect or the forbidden god that is not present yet, The Maker? is it real? is he away? or like Cory said "there is no maker, the black city was always black".... but just one thing is certain my friend, Bioware succeed in giving us a history we all are hungry to know about.... they will be swimming in more money :) and i´ll be happy if they keep filling my mind with great storytelling.

Ever considered that, maybe, he is being manipulated by a certain trickster-god? Like when Lavellan gets _fucking dumped_ and Cole tries to reach out into the pain, but then it suddenly vanishes and Cole cannot see it anymore because the egg does not allow it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Co1eFSR3HjA.html ? Or when he speaks through spirit Cole after the big fight and then "insists" that Cole forget ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dzWGSBJowqA.html ?

Maybe that lying sack of nug shit isn't so much unnerved by the sheer stupidity of Grey Wardens' plan to "kill the Old Gods" but rather by the prospect of having a strong organization nearby, at the ready, that isn't a part of the Inquisition but still indebted to it? And if this gracious Inquisitor comes to them one day and says "Yo, Wardens! Remember the bald elven know-it-all mage we brought here? Turns out he is the new big bad. Can you help us fight him?" do you really think they'd be in any position to decline? Even if they wanted to? Think about something else: in the Winter Palace the "best" outcome (I mean the outcome that Solas favors most (_Solas Greatly Approves_ I mean)) is not handing over Orlais to Brialla (which he doesn't even give a shit about (really, there is no approves or disapproves. fucking nothing), but playing the game so well that the three of them start "working together". Seems like a politically shrewd move, right? _Wrong._ Think: what does this "truce" actually accomplish? A stalemate. The _same_ stalemate that almost got Celene killed, Gaspard executed and left Orlais without a leader, nigh-defenceless. Even Leliana says "For the Empire to survive, _someone_ *must* emerge victorious tonight." But nobody did. And so we go back to square one, where Gaspard wishes the Empire he was promised but did not get so now he has to fight for his destiny once again, where Brialla wishes to "help the elves" (translation: consolidate the power for herself), and where Celene's attention is focused not on a dude who is older than the rocks her palace made of and the absolute shit he could (and will, given time) unleash, but rather on a civil war and\or coup d'etat in the shadows. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TJoBMayjlUo.html 1. Suppose you went to get the help of mages in closing the breach. You have two options: A. Conscript them (_Solas Greatly Disapproves_) i.e. watching them closely, becoming the Circle they tried so desperately to escape, ready to kill them the second they become Abominations (ergo, possessed by demons and\or _some other_ force of the Void), nullifying practically any and all possibility of them repeating the horrifying and tragic fate of Warden mages at Adamant (becoming near-emotionless tools of murder on _somebody's_ orders). B. Forge an alliance with them (_Solas Greatly Approves_) i.e. leaving them completely unsupervised and very much vulnerable to _somebody's_ suggestions and\or possessions through the Void. 2. Suppose you went to get the help of templars in closing the breach. You have two options: A. Conscript them (_Solas Greatly Approves_) i.e. leaving the soldiers that were trained specifically to fight magic (in any form, including mages that were possessed) disgruntled and wishing to regain their freedom (and power) again, who will one day realize that their help is needed once again and will probably see it as a chance to bargain to better their conditions in the Inquisition, if not for independence, forcing you to bicker amongst yourselves, distracting you, rather then focus full attention of a united front on a deceitful knife-ear and his "People". B. Forge an alliance with them (_Solas Greatly Disapproves_) i.e. earning trust and gratitude of a powerful, well-respected organization, that will be more than happy to help you to deal with an Apostate of godlike powers and cunning. TL;DR : If you want "the good ending" - *never* choose an option that Solas would approve, and *always* choose an option that Solas would disapprove. Remember to punch the bastard. Several times if you can.

Oh shit, I forgot about the elven temple, didn't I? Well it's quite simple: if you choose to "honour" Mythal (who, as I understand, was just as much of an Evanuris as the rest of those would-be gods) then not only do you allow for ancient elves to leave to some unknown location because "their duty ends" - you also waste Inquisition resources (translation: manpower, literal lives), leaving you vulnerable. Granted, it is a slight disadvantage, but I suspect the dread shit will not allow even that slight advantage to _his_ cause slip through his fingers. If, however, you choose to blaze through the hole in the wall, not only do you spit in the face of his friend\ally\lover\whatever but also kill the elves that would otherwise join him. Utter failure in his book. Also, remember that _bug_ when you chose the fate of the Well? That no matter which option you choose, either letting Morrigan drink it or gobble it up like milkshake yourself, Solas _always_ seems to disapprove? Bug my ass. The bastard does not wish for power of the Well to fall into the hands of those he does not trust. Let Morrigan drink it? She is arbitrary, highly unreliable and not even "one of the People" (it is a known fact that Solas is a racist). Who knows what she'll do with this power? Drink it yourself? You're a future obstacle he has to overcome. To leave this power with you would be like to shoot yourself dead with an accidental discharge.

it isnt his home. Solas had never been to that part of the fade since a powerfull fear demon owns it. And everyone knows already what going into the golden (now black) city unleashes.

Macder10 Also, if Corypheus is correct, the city was never golden.

shit...I just assumed it went back in my inventory..what an ass!

Or maybe just one more piece of garbage programming ^^

I have always hated Solas, far too annoying

WAT *instantly reinstalls game*

LukaBlight69 veeery late, but in the Dragon Age wiki I think this was mentioned, they being the same VO.

As he said he wasnt powerful enough to do it so he needed the orb :)

It's Superior Hunter Armor, you can buy it in Val Royeaux.

geertwilders911 yes!!! *orgasm*

Georgia Vlogs You can see everyone's nightmare in my compilation: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uEqNQ8GU2r4.html

chris koloski Yes, those aren't crafted

FluffyNinjaLlama that ticks me off, a lot of the coolest looking weapons can't be crafted, but the coolest looking weapons are too weak to use if you do craft

chris koloski Some of the more basic weapon schematics can look cool though, depending on what type of ore you use :p

Make a DLC to expand weapons and armor? because the weapons don't look cool? I don't know, they may toss a few in there but I thought there was a perk to get advanced schematics.

godsun212 those schematics aren't that good, you only get like 3 of them. And they are hugely outshone by tier 3 schematics

Even the Elves in Dragon Age have forgotten 95% of their language. It wouldn't make sense for us as players to understand it. Not to mention the translation would have been a spoiler for the Trespasser DLC.

@@clothar23 it's stupid. Why would that demon care? He wants to ruin our spirits there so Say it in english man and i'd bust his ass before he goes on killing spree. I'm guessing da4 is all about elves, I hope they get a translator because I don't understand shit of Elven.

@@Cpt_Rough I mean... the Nightmare says it all in Elven purely to mess with Solas. Just the chance of someone recognising the right words and figuring him out is probably enough to set him on edge (especially with a Dalish Inquisitor etc - "harellan" is a pretty common term after all). Also, emotion usually hits harder if you speak to people in their own language.

I did. We were helping the wardens after all.

I did and he surprisingly doesn't say much. I brought him along since i thought it would be iconic and fitting to bring him along to help the wardens he admires so much, but didn't expect THIS to happen.

joshua kim Yeah. He sadly only says something if you exile the Wardens. He probably wasn't speaking so he didn't accidentally expose himself

There are other translations, anf they are better, but roughly: Nightmare: How does it feel to be a failure? Solas, you are not. Solas: Speak no more.

I roughly translated it above ^ as LilithWolfheart asked the same question :) you just have to press view all replies

MiniMinccino So in a spoiler (if your elf and speak elf) fear demon revealed he was the trickster god Dread Wolf

Roughly "Have you learned, trickster? That was no victory. Your pride will be your death."

Hyper Blu it's female Hawke

i was thinning the saaaame shit

tyler Lowery Ye, as I said I agreed, at least I thought as much, but I think in TME they point out the fact that he is a demon u.u

tyler Lowery I mean remember what Solas said about Demons/Spirits

@@luiscallirgos5127 He is a spirit of Compassion, but his prior murders without reason made him close to becoming a demon.

Fen'Harel is Solas. Solas was always him. I thought he got possessed too, but he was the Dread Wolf all along. There are things indicating that throughout the game :) lots of videos on it! Very cool subject :)

I think it's Ring Velvet, it's cloth not leather

I believe he says that no matter who you bring with. And any character can be powerful, as long as you perk them right.

That's Hawke. Hawke is fully customizable and can be male or female.

That is Hawke, you can play as a female Hawke in DA2..

That IS Hawke, Hawke can be either gender and either a warrior, mage or rogue

+Trixen Hawke :D

there is a female Hawke? :O

+Trixen If you go to the dragon age keep and change the story, then you can have then you can change who Hawke was instead of it being generic.

omg I love Marian :DDD

+TotallyNotSquirrelGirl or can't you use a previous save? Like from DA 2?

Ehh, I was disappointed when they have Solas outright say that the Elvish Gods weren't really Gods, but perhaps it works a bit like D&D where some mortals can become cosmic beings that are, for all intentions, Gods. Guessing from the writing staff, they might work it to where Solas 'is' the Maker and all the religions are misunderstandings of what actually happened, which would be another disappointment as I'm in the same boat and enjoy fantasy Divinity. However, where Dragon Age is concerned, I'd like it more if it was a question not answered. There are many things earthbound to keep a player occupied, the writing staff needn't lay the entire universe bare. Because what is life or story without mystery?

+Serenity2Witchs keep in mind that solas didn't deny there was something like the maker, between a barter with him and cassandra, she asked him if he believed in the maker, and he said he believed there was something bigger in the universe

Alex Posthumus Maybe it has something to do with the Old Draconic Gods (as he was super pissed that the Grey Wardens were girdling up to kill them all.) Speaking of which, why he was so upset 'isn't' explained and it really aught to be. I can't remember if the Inquisitor can even ask him, 'Dude, why you so pissed off? Can you give me a straight answer as to why they're wrong without going into platitudes?' or even 'Well, do you have any other solution to the Blight problem?' Since, as far as the Inquisitor knows, the 'Elder Gods' are a bunch of dragons, and there are apparently dudes like dragon hunters in existence already. This may sound contradictory, but I find that questions such as character motivations and knowledge should be up for explanation, but not the confirmation or denial as to whether or not the Maker exists.

MinecraftPro15 yeah that's what I was thinking kinda like the Titans from WOW

Solas doesn't outright say he believes in a higher power. He says the Old Gods and the Evanuris aren't Gods unless we expand the definition to the point of absurdity. But he admires the Maker, simply because the Maker leaves everyone to their own devices. Which makes sense, given what we know about him.

That female is Hawk. If you play Dragon Age 2 you play as Hawk and you can customise Hawk as either a man or women and change appearance like normal. Using the keep you can carry your save file across to change the world history when you play Inquisition.

Hawke can be male or female.

If you played as a female in DA2 or changed Hawke to female in the dragon age keep Hawke will be a girl in this one.

He made a mistake giving Corypheus the orb, and he knew it, thus the reason why he joined the Inquisition: He wanted to fix his mistake. You can view him as the bad guy all you want, but he is not. Stating what you said is misinformation.

Katherine Weber You can't say if he is good just like you can't say if he is evil, we can only speculate for now. He gave it to Corypheus for his own agenda which did not work out and is unknown to us, Just because he joined the inquisition to fix his mistake doesn't make him good. After all the world could have been destroyed or if Corypheus reached the black city who knows what could have happened. Personally I though he was cool but for some reason he did not agree with me on many things only when it came to the elves which I am for helping them would he slightly agree. I almost let him drink from the fountain because I know how he feels about them but I didn't because as much as I wanted to he could not be fully trusted, I knew he could use that power against the inquisition some day similar with Morrigan she could hide knowledge so the only way was for the inquisitor to drink it himself. I am glad to see I made the right choice considering the events that occurred after.

ThelastGinyu Pretty sure he rejects to drink even if you offer the option to him, but I've yet to really get into my second playthrough to see. But if he could, Flemeth/Mythal could stop him from absorbing her(or help her possess him, depending on how you see the epilogue), so in that respect it would be detrimental to the epilogue. I take every character with a grain of salt, but for roleplaying purposes I don't bring that into my gameplay. Morrigan and Solas and just about everyone the Inquisitor meets could have their own goals, could not be trusted. But unless it affects the story or is shown in the story, the Inquisitor does not know that they do. And that might have been a glitch in your game, as he loved questions and of course, if you agreed with him, he liked it even more. If he regretted his mistake enough to want to fix it/see how it is fixed, doesn't that make him at least a little good? And therefore by joining the Inquisition and helping their cause, even if it is to further their own goals, also bring some good in that respect? He states in the epilogue that he gave it to Corypheus because he could not use it himself. That doesn't really mean he had an agenda in giving it to Corypheus. But I forgot, all gods that are called evil/are evil have agendas. All together I like him as a character because he is something new and something to be questioned. I'm hoping that the DLC they make for Inquisition involves him at least in some way, because I'm interested in the story.

Katherine Weber I believe Mythal took over Solas, she was needing a new body, Morrigan refused her, as does her son, we'll not know till later on, just like the other banished Treventor, the Architect, theres a reason he and Corypheus look alike, there has to be more than just two.

Maples01 It could be either way. The Architect has his own goals as well. I kept him alive until I read summaries of one of the books that described what his goals truly were. But now, due to Corypheus, even if you kill the Architect, he may not be dead. Hm. There's so many possibilities, so many ways for this series to go. I'm sad about not seeing Sandal in this game, though. I wonder how many darkspawn-magisters there are.

@Tori R DA: inquisition was my first game... Didn't think about that...

Well if you actually play DA2 you’ll know that you can have MARIAN Hawke

@@yang6642 i have played all of them. And frankly the trailer is GARRET and and marian you fucking uneducated potato

Dumpster Raccoon What the fuck does that have to do with anything you simpleton? Hawke’s gender is completely up to the player

He approves of actions that give mercy to innocent people. he dissaproves if you give mercy to people who hurt other people. so basically he despises the templars and grey wardens because of their actions.

He likes truth, and hates politics. Likes freedom and hates captivity. He's usually more in favor of the mages, but believes the templars are a necessary evil. He also approves if you take him on quests to free/help people. On some quests even from afar.

Really? I have to admit I'm satisfied with how mine turned out

FluffyNinjaLlama hehehe i guess ,are you going Reaver -2 handed soon?

BS, I have some great looking guy characters, the voices could be better