As a side note, there is another squad organization floating around that's 10-men with 1 Squad Leader (with a UBGL), 1 Deputy Squad (with a UBGL) Leader, 2 SAW Gunners, and the remainder riflemen. However, I've only seen this in one place (and copy pasted from it elsewhere) with no supporting photos so it is not included in the video.
Cameron Campbell Basically the Japanese in WW2 had three lmgs and three light mortars per platoon, with the light mortars concentrated in a weapon squad while each rifle squad received an lmg. Thus in Imperial Japanese infantry doctrine, mortars were king.
Your attention to detail, quality, ease of understanding/breaking down of topics of all your video subjects is both really educational and entertaining. The fact you only have about 20K subs is a crime. Keep up the awesome work 👏
@@LongVu-lh9el You forgot about 2 Air defence battalions in both regiments and brigades (they have the same equipment iirc). First one is called an "AA artillery-missile battalion" and has 6 artillery-missile vehicles (2S6 Tunguska or ZSU-23-4 Shilka with Igla missiles) and a sub-unit with a number of hand-held AA missiles. The second one is an "AA missile battalion" with just 12 2K35 Strela-10 vehicles, to be replaced with 12 9M337 Sosna-R. Sometimes important units have a different air defence system here. For example a 39th separate motor rifle brigade based in Sakhalin is armed with 8 S-300V systems here. Some others may have 12 Tor-M1-2/M2 missile defence systems.
@@LongVu-lh9el What you described as a "122mm gun, towed or on BMP" is actually a 2S1 Gvozdika self-propelled gun. Towed D-30s are out of service in ground forces by now, they are only used for training, in VDV and Rosgvardia internal troops. There are also often 152mm self-propelled guns, like 2S3 and 2S19 in regiments instead of 2S1s, this used to be mostly in tank regiments, but nowadays it's also very common in rifles brigades, not sure about rifle regiments. It can be subject to change or variation though. There's also nuance, like motorized rifle regiments' tank battalions sometimes having 31 tanks (3 companies) instead of 41, like brigade tank battalions do. Also you're completely wrong about brigade artillery. They don't have "just one battalion" - they have, on paper, three. The Russian name for an artillery battalion is "дивизион", which obviously doesn't have nearly the same amount of personnel as an infantry battalion. Practically this means a brigade will have 36 self-propelled howitzers, usually 152mm and in the third, rocket artillery battalion there will be 18 BM-21 Grad or Tornado G 122mm MLRS.
Not that amazing considering the fact theyve adopted a "steal everything that isnt nailed down" approach to technology, intellectual property, and ideas and what they cant steal/copy they buy. Combine that with the fact they realized having a massive land army didnt matter jack when they saw Iraqs massive but poorly trained and modestly equipped army get slaughtered in Desert Storm so they realized they needed to downsize relative to their population and that extra funding they saved allowed them to modernize and their growing economy also helped alot. The fact they want to become an imperial power again makes it all the more important to have a strong, more elite military similar to what the british did (large militaries make it almost impossible to have an over seas empire while a small elite force makes it easier)
@@arthas640 You do realize the NATO alliance including US practically outnumbered the Iraqis 8 to 1 in terms of manpower, vehicles, jets and naval assets used right? The Iraq war was literally a group of 10+ advanced nations bullying Iraq.
@@arthas640 look the US military steals anything they dont have too. Its the only responsible thing to do. What do you want them to do? Risk their soldiers life just bc of moral concerns about “stealing” technology concepts?
@@arthas640 check out all the nazi war criminals pardoned by the USA and Soviet union for the sake of knowledge. Where do you think a big portion USA’s advanced tech came from
@@hitmanyang319 They did cover up many Nazi's but people tend to overstate how much tech the US and Soviets took. The US had the Nazis beat in many fields by the end of the war and really the only areas the Germans were ahead in were jets and rockets, both things the US was already developing on their own but that the Germans could improve. Other areas the Germans excelled at were mostly civilians fields, like physics, and many of those scientists moved to the US willingly because the Germany economy was devastated, the US had some of if not the best research facilities and universities in the world, and the US could pay more then anyone else. People also tend to forget that the German aerospace industry was non existent after the war, it took years to even restart and decades to rebuild. Countries as far off as Argentina were hiring German engineers to start civilian aircraft industries or to refine their own domestic designs. Basically the US and Soviets used the Germans to advance their aircraft and rocket designs but that was pretty much it. The other stuff they "took" was just to compare to what they'd developed themselves. The Germans were really struggling towards the end on R&D so their later tech was actually inferior to what the Soviets and Americans made on their own so the German versions were just a curiosity and not some brand new thing
LOL you're technically right but we don't know if that's the actual name of the role in the military. Man I wish I could find out, too bad I don't have the time to join the army.
It looks like it fulfils a similar role as the British Supacat All Terrain Mobility Platform. A light, all terrain platform primarily used by airborne units.
multiple variants packs much larger guns were developed from this platform for export purposes. there were MLRS, AA, 120mm howizer/mortar. Quite a potent vehicle.
@@kutter_ttl6786 Actually, that little thing is developed on the Supercat platform PLA imported them and made a few changes to make the vehicle fit their requirement
Great video, I just hope East v West conflicts never get to the point of war. Both sides put the best people that their countries have to offer into their armed forces. The loss of human capital (i.e. lives) from war is irreplaceable because, paradoxically, the best people tend to die first. Hopefully we can keep it to war games, and flexing at each other on occasion.
Americans just have to accept that even though Chinese copy and imitate everything we do, that does not mean we should underestimate them or take it as a sign of weakness. They are basically hitting the fast forward button to catch up and potentially surpass the US Military and the only way to do that is to copy what works best.
It's honestly stupid to not copy from the best, especially in weapons development when survival takes precedence. "Yes we should reinvent our tech so to not trigger the netizens"
@@berettaxd7566 No you are wrong, don't take it too much for granted that everything is a sheer copy from you. Reverse engineering is a demanding job that very few of this world could do.
@@MrBlueBurd0451 Yup! The prominent muzzle brake and carrying handle reminded me of the Denzel. Yet due to its massive barrel and large magazine, plus the rather industrial-looking buttstop, the grenade launcher presents a unique silhouette
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In the most recent equipment update, all the QBZ-95-1 service rifles will be replaced by QBZ-191 assault rifle, carbine and SAW. They are also ditching the UCP, in favor of terrain specific camo, 8:06 is one of the new camo.
@@buckplug2423 To my knowledge QBZ-191 is supposed to replace QBZ-03(which never fielded in great numbers), intended more for the elite units, kinda like Army's HK416 or russian AN94. The qbz95a will still be the rifle for most regular units.
@@kevintang5473 Where did you get that? because QBZ-191 is intended to be the service rifle to replace QBZ-95. QBZ-03 was never intended for elite units, they were mostly used by border units. so to replace that with QBZ-191 doesn't make any sense. Also in the 2019 National Day parade it's made abundantly clear that QBZ-191 is being the next service rifle, since all the combat units were seen with them. oh and btw CCTV7 made a documentary stating that it was a service rifle.
@@obsidianstatue is QBZ191 the official designation? That's the name netizens came up with, I doubt they'd keep it. Irregardless, the new rifle looks amazing!
Interesting! I find their IFVs and vehicle mix to be well thought out and compelling. The closest we could do is an MTLV based heavy / medium and amphibious structure, with Striker components as needed for occupation or operations other than war involving lots of road and plains movement. Light forces get M113 based heavy components with modernized Weasel M29C type light tracked vehicles and HMMWV and Jeeps as needed. Include Amphibious modifications packages and armor packages as appropriate, include the M113 vehicle family Cavalry vehicle we never used. Add EFOGM systems to supplement heavy mortars and missiles.
@@eee9034 Hey, ignorant. The 10.10 is the national day of Republic China, which commemorates the start of the Wuchang Uprising of 10 October 1911. When is the Taiwan National Day in your delusion?
In a "strengthened infantry squad"， Besides the standard 95/95-1 automatic rifle and two 95/95-1 squad machine guns，it also equipped with two sniper rifles (including one Type 10 high-caliber sniper rifle), two Type 93 rocket launchers, Type 89 heavy machine gun, Type 98 anti-tank rocket launcher and Type 04 automatic grenade launcher. In addition, the squad is also supported with a professional sapper（pioneer）. This special squad is under command of the company and separated from other normal squads ， individuals in this squad can be deployed in any squad of the company due to battle missions. So there’s actually no variants in standard squads，they just got supported by a separated fire squad in their company.
jesus christ, that's a lot of firepower. Are there situations were such a squad is used as a unit, like for example in defence or during a company assault?
@@buckplug2423 the special squad is not used to fight as a normal squad，each member（s） of the special squad will be deployed to platoons or squads under the same company command. Such deploys will depends on battle missions of each platoon or squad. A platoon with anti-tank mission will likely be support by type 98 ATRL. A platoon with defense mission will likely be support by type 89 HMG，and so on. The special squad is directly under the command of the company commander，and its slowly expanded into a “firepower platoon ” after 2018.
I watch your videos a lot and this is the most useful video for my job specifically. If we can have more videos on the modern Chinese structure that would be very useful for studying as a grunt. Thanks and keep it up!
Did anyone see that throw at 9:25? I had to rewatch it 4 times before I could accept that he threw that smoke 3ft. I'm surprised China hasn't censored that clip.
here is a deep misunderstanding about us think we are stubborn or something, but actually we are just normal people like anywhere else in the world, if you want, come here to find out exactly what we look like maybe you will change your mind.
Amphibious Brigades have one and only one objective: be the spearhead leading the liberation of the Taiwan Island. Since EFV's cancel , PLA suddenly has the best AFV that can swim (type05s) CSK181, or Warrier Gen3 as is nick named is springing up everywhere, giving most mot.infs units whom have never been armored up an entry to AFV, also can equip a weapon station. There is CSZ181 that is a longer, 6x6 version, full armored or with a truck bed plus armored 4 seat cabin. Also air assault brigade (not marine)is forming now, but choppers are lacking to build more of them. QBU88 doesn't appear in normal squads THAT often, and optic is still hard to find on QBZ95 that often. Some units will have some modified T95 to ease the problem of not having a rail to mount optic, but it only comes in small amounts. PF98 120mm have a computerized optic to give more accuracy to the shots, but that shit is still too big in my opinion... 6:44 the AGL gunner should be 榴弹发射器手 8X8 Bobcat(山猫) got solid axle with no suspension (medic version excepted) so it can only be used for short range assault, not long marches. Also you may see a huge smoke cloud appears when a QBZ95 fired, that is from the plastic inert round used in war exercise. Normal ball ammo is just fine.
Also some ranting...some journalists working for PLA knows jack shit about military, and pictures may have mosaic on none-secret info for no reason. Edit dudes mixing material from years ago with no connection what so ever, confusion everyone...
I’ve only recently discovered your channel, but have found it to be very well done and informative. If possible could you do a video covering the Warrant Officer in the US Military?
The similarities to the American Army Infantry are apparent. Its good to know how other countries organize their military. Most developed nations have mechanized brigades so the similarities are unsurprising.
It seems to be working for them, most Western countries usually try to take inspiration or copy tactics or doctrines from the US too (understandably, look at the most powerful current military and just see what they're doing right). It also differs from Russia who just seem still use their old Soviet doctrines and own Soviet era tanks and equipment despite being quite outdated especially now seeing it in action. China is just looking at what Western armies do well and just doing that.
@@PrestonGarvey-j3g well they've come a long way since even then. Besides their military seems to be growing more and more every year and they'll probably replace a lot of it anyway.
Good overview. Thanks! Question: From a command and control point of view, how independent are they at the squad level? Can they operate with some degree of independence or are they strictly tied to central command?
Historically PLA units were extreme flexible at the tactical level and place strong importance on independent maneuvers to outflank and destroy a superior enemy.
Could you do a video on the Section Organisation of around 10- 14 men in the Indian Armed Forces ? Information isn’t readily available online but a lot of folks on twitter can help you with that, would be interesting to see the Worlds Largest Armies and how they Operate.
There is no place else on RU-vid where one can get this level, or just an honest intellectual attempt performed by investigators, as well as with historical background to support every point, no assumptions except where cited in big letters. Honest and toiling the material,
I think in the case of the Chinese they may be playing up the camera and making sure squads that get published in the media have one. For the Russians, they took DMRs out of the squads during the 2009 reforms. Generally speaking in American practice DMRs (7.62mm) are battalion assets but I believe they've been deployed to the squad before (even if it's just an M16 with an optic). The Marines want to put the M38 SDMR (5.56mm) in the squad though, but that's basically an M27 IAR receiver with a different optic and a suppressor
I would also assume the US doesn’t have a DMR specialist in every squad due to every rifleman having a similar capability due to their magnified optics. Chinese and Russian infantry almost exclusively use iron sights. I suspect the DMR man in some Chinese squads is an attempt to partially make up for the rest of the squad being unable to engage western (especially US) infantry at the same engagement distances.
The DMR is an answer to some common problems of large conscript armies with relatively low resources. The Russians and Chinese alike tend to expect their riflemen to be fighting without a lot of training or logistical support. So, they concentrate on training a few men to be extremely good shots rather than trying to train all their riflemen to be decent shots. It also gives them an ability to engage common threats, like machinegun nests, without resorting to logistically-expensive support weapons like artillery. The PLA rather likes the idea of Ping the DMR being able to knock out that machinegun nest with a few aimed rifle shots rather than Lin the Squad Lead ordering expensive rockets or mortar shells on it. Tsing the Rocketman is of course annoyed he doesn't get to lighten his load by firing his rockets sooner, but he is a a disciplined soldier and will not blow his load prematurely at the wrong time. Uncle Sam, when he goes to war, tends to be a little more generous. He gives his riflemen very accurate rifles, theoretically trains them to use those rifles well, gives them plenty of access to optics and other cool gadgets to help their aim, and he doesn't mind trucking in vast quantities of heavy weapons to blow the heck out of any enemy that is foolish enough to let him get the range on them. However, you will note that certain units, like the Marines, do want squad-level DMRs because they, too, want to be able to operate without all the heavy weapons that the Army traditionally enjoys. Why use your AT4 on that machinegun when you might run into a BMP? Of course, the average Marine will probably still use the AT4 on the machinegun, but at least they give lip service to the idea.
Great video. I do have a question though: do we have any educated guesses as to *why* these formations are equipped and organized in this fashion? Even if it's just speculation I'd like to hear your thoughts.
I have a feeling the move to a 9-man squad with 2 fire teams is somewhat following after the US. I don't know exactly when they made the change, but they used to be 3 fireteams of 3 men each. This is a holdover from a politically-based "cell" system, which is actually one of the inspirations that led to the US Marine Raiders to developing such a system in the early 1940s before the rest of the USMC. Vietnam actually maintains the 3x3 system today. I think the change from an RPG-7 clone to the PF-98A as the rocket launcher is probably due to a fear of western tanks, because it is one of the more capable unguided options out there. But since it is so big, it makes me think that their doctrine-use of it is mostly defensive. It's like how the Carl Gustav in western militaries has often been used in defensive situations while LAWs like the M72 or AT4 are used on the offense. It's also a cheaper option than something like the Javelin, which the Chinese have an equivalent to but I don't know how far its proliferated. They usually don't put dismount ATGMs in squads. I'm not sure why they opted for the magazine fed QBB-95 when the belt-fed QJY-88 (in the same cartridge) is also in service. I think the QJY may be a platoon support weapon, and it used to be in the squad for heavy infantry at least.
@@BattleOrder just going to say, arming a soldier with an AT weapon and a pistol as a standard loadout just seems bizarre to me, that squad would be effectively down a man if there were no vehicles for him to engage since closing to the range that a handgun would be useful at is unlikely. I think this is why most western armies take the Carl G as the largest squad level weapon because a soldier can still carry a rifle with them, while things like man-portable TOW launchers are kept at platoon or company level. On the same note, arming vehicle crews with pistols and not carbines is also very strange, most armored vehicles have enough room to stuff a carbine or PDW somewhere for the crew
@@nilloc93 Not arming a grenadier with anything, or with a pistol, is a fairly common eastern practice. Before the 1990s Soviet/eastern bloc RPG-7 grenadiers usually didn't have a secondary. I believe this is still what Vietnamese RPG-7/B-41 grenadiers do. American M79 grenadiers in the 1960s just had a pistol as a secondary. Rationale is their job is to man the big weapon system, and big weapons make it hard to carry another full weapon with ammo for it (although it's obviously not impossible since most western countries do that). Although with the PF-98 the grenadier is probably more vulnerable since they only have two shots.
@@BattleOrder I thanks for the wonderful video , have been reading text all over to find their make up . I believe at squad level (heavy weapons) a 12.7mm HMG is use as support weapon or a tripod AGL. I have also saw some training videos with 12.7mm anti material sniper rifle in the load up . Others have UGL as a common feature too. Scope mount qzb was also surface recently lol.
@@MarkzOng I think 12.7mm HMGs and QLZ-87 AGLs on tripods are platoon-level weapons rather than squad-level. I think the anti-materiel rifles and grenade "sniper" rifles are in battalion-level sniper platoons
Hey battle order, Umm, what did you mean by Russia has less optic during the company level radar in the Russian video I am a noob soo... Can you explain
In the US military basically everyone gets an optic as a pretty standard thing. Optics are much more scarce by comparison in the regular Russian ground forces (not including special units). So what I was alluding to was the ground surveillance radar may be partially compensating for the lower proliferation of optics by pointing the dudes in the right direction to acquire targets
Let PLA tell you what is CQB .jpg Well, the reason why the PLA doesn't attach the grenade launcher under the rifle because every man in the squad all bring a disposable rocket launcher -- the DZJ-08. Similar in status to the US army's AT4 but the DZJ-08 can launch indoors. Some pictures show that even the cookhouse squad also have it (to be honest I not sure of its authenticity). Quite cool when it launch have to say.
They only get them when deployed to warzone but it's changing since the reform. Right now soldiers at the China-Inida border have vests that rated to stop M855.
@@omarrp14 They do have heavier vests that stop better rounds, normally seen in peacekeeping force in Africa. The border unit have older and lighter ones probably because of the 4km plus high attitude in Tibet that can drained their stamina if they don't control carry weight. They produce decent body armor for export so they do have the production capabilities when they decide to arm every soldier with vests.
I have a feeling they are generally the same rank but the one photo I saw where rank tabs were clearly identifiable, the driver appeared to be of the higher rank. The only difference between Private and Private First Class is one year of service as a Private
Could you please compare the organization of US Army Combat Aviation Brigade Vs Chinese Army Aviation ones. So few coverage on the latter. And keep up the good works.
@@jeremysong7010 comparing two organisations and comparing warfare strategies are different things. Chinese Army Aviation Brigades maintains similar quantities and aircraft class as of US Army Combat Aviation Brigades, (PLAGFAF has 10 Avn Bde with about 1000 AC total) I don't think anyone else can come close, even the Russians!! Especially when you consider the growth rate of PLAGFAF .
China is already stronger and more influential than the US ...and don't forget to consider China was nothing just decades ago. They will continue rising with insane speed...it's true ...that dragon has been woken. What other countries should do is work on their domestic vitality and economy. The game is all money now, not military. Some people are very slow to realize this tho. Don't blame em, the west is warmongers and so are their citizens
Right now I'm pretty sure the USA would wipe out China in a conventional conflict, the US has heaps of real experience. In another 20+ year maybe things will be different
Okay, here is what I can find on a Special Forces Company, if you have any questions I can help hopefully answer most of them. This just Organization, source has not updated in a few years but is most likely still 100% accurate except for the MOS or Military Occupation Specialty, especially for the Warrant Officers. This is the typical SF Company Active Duty, or National Guard. (Delta Force does not share this organization, Delta’s have Troops and Assault Team, Green Berets do not) Other units I have info on their Organization are MARSOC Raiders Company, Army Ranger Platoon, and Marine Force Recon Company. Special Forces Company Operational Detachment Bravo(Main Command Center of the company, oversees the 6 ODAs) 1 x Special Forces Company Commander (CO) (Major) The Company commander is in command of all elements assigned or attached to the Special Forces company. Executive Officer (Captain) 2nd in Command amd director company staff. Company Technician (18Z) (W0-1 and up, Warrant Officer) Responsible for the organization, training, intelligence and counterintelligence (CI) activities, and combat operations of the Special Forces company Company Seargeant Major(18Z) (E-9, Sergeant Major) supervises the daily training, operations, and administration of the company. Special Forces Operations Sergeant (18Z) (E-8, Master Sergeant) Assists the XO and Company Technician. Assitant Operations Sergeant (18F) (E-7, Sergeant First Class) Assists the Operations Sergeant Special Forces Medical Sergeants (18D) (Sergeant First Class) Provides medical care at the company level. Also provided medical training to the company. 2 x Special Forces Communications Sergeants (18E) (Sergeant First Class / Staff Sergeant) Signals experts, Communications Sergeant and a Asst. Communications Sergeant, who instal maintain and operate the company's radio and other communications equipment. Supply Sergeants (E-6, Staff Sergeant) Handles the logistics for the company and all its detachements NBC NCO (E-5, Sergeant) Ensures the company can detect and defend against Nuclear, Chemical and Biological (NBC) attacks. Special Forces ODA (Operational Detachment Alpha, SFOD-A, or A Team) 6 of them in a Company, 4 of them are specialized as a Military Free Fall Team, Mobility/Mounted Team, Combat Dive Team, or a Mountain Team, the two others are not specialized. Each one should have 12 members however attachments from AFSOC and other ODAs are common, work with Regular Forces more often the other SOCOM units like Rangers do. 1 x Detachment Commander (18A) (Captain) The Commander is the team leader and is responsible for outfitting his ODA, organizing missions, and briefing the unit on mission objectives. 1 x Assistant Detachment Commander (180A) (Warrant Officer 1 or Chief Warrant Officer 2) The Assistant Detachment Commander assists the ODA's Commander, ready to take over command if needed. If the ODA splits into two teams, as happened in Gulf War I, then the 180A commands the second team. 1 x Operations Sergeant (18Z) (Master Sergeant) The Operations Sergeant is responsible for the overall organization, functionality and training of an SF team. He makes sure the team is outfitted correctly and supports the ODA commander (18A). 1 x Assistant Operations and Intelligence Sergeant (18F) (Sergeant First Class) This team member ensures that the team has all the equipment and supplies needed for the mission. He also gathers and analyzes mission-critical intelligence. 2 x Weapons Sergeants (18B) (Sergeant First Class and Staff/Sergeant) Weapons Sergeants are experts in a wide range of U.S. and foreign weapons systems, from pistols and to light artillery and anti-aircraft missiles 2 x Communications Sergeants (18E) (Sergeant First Class and Staff/Sergeant) SF Communications Sergeants are proficient in the gamut of radio communications equipment and techniques used in the field, everything from morse code to encrypted satellite transmissions and IT technology. 2 x Medical Sergeants (18D) (Sergeant First Class and Staff/Sergeant) Special Forces Medics are first-class battlefield trauma medical technicians as well as being proficient in more general medical care. The ability of SF medics to treat the medical problems of local populations is a valuable component of counter insurgency 'hearts and minds' operations. 2 x Engineering Sergeants (18C) (Sergeant First Class and Staff/Sergeant) The Engineering Sergeants are the guys you go to when you want something built or destroyed. They are experts in explosive demolitions and can blow bridges, buildings and other structures to kingdom come. SF Engineers are also proficient in military and civil construction and can carry out a range of projects from fortifications to civil engineering tasks such as digging wells or building a schoolhouse. Primary Source: www.americanspecialops.com/special-forces/
First, I like to say thank you and your team for the informative video. Can you tell me by the way how an amphibiouse Combined- Arms Brigade is organized or where I can find further information about that topic.
@Russo R What in the fuck does this have to do with the OG comment? Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising is just a video game similar to Arma. Literally nothing you said was, backed up by facts or evidence, unbiased, nor related to the subject at hand that the original comment was about. But, if you're just troll baiting, it sure as hell worked on me.
