Yep. Imagine the day when we have personal battery meters like that ad from a few years ago. Hah! Although I suppose that would have its own positives and negatives. Still, I’d rather my pilot, brain surgeon, etc have a personal battery level above 50% rather than below 50%.
I flew commercially for almost 40 years. If I had to say there was one constant companion during the whole process I would say that it was fatigue. I flew for a commuter airline that did something called a stand up overnight that put such a load on the pilot that it was way beyond safety and yet it was legal. If I were a passenger in an airplane I would not want to know that my crew was completely worn out from fatigue and unable to safely execute their flying duties. The last job in my career was charter flying. It was a constant variation of schedules. Early takeoff sometimes late landings. Driving home from the airport when you were so tired I could barely keep the car on the road. The problem with fatigue is that most pilots realize it’s there but many times don’t realize it until it’s too late. I was in the habit of briefing fatigue as a factor in the landing briefing just like weather on the last flight of the day. Even on a visual approach I would make sure there was an instrument approach in place to have additional guidance during the landing. Flying was an interesting adventure but I’m glad it’s over. Over the years people of said that they would like to be a commercial pilot. And I said I will tell you what it’s like and then you tell me what you think.
How to lose your job in one landing sequence. Co-pilot was useless, captain wasn't insisting on information, and they didn't even appreciate their landing speed. Very lucky something much worse didn't happen here. Again, a fine production, Allec. Keep 'em coming...! :)
Lorient is still well renowned as a difficult landing in poor weather. But, as is often the case, it's easier to throw flight crews under the bus than to spend the money to improve the airport...
It’s not tough at all to do five, they’re going to be short flights and well within flight duty limitation. Try flying in Norway, six sectors a day, and in the winter you can imagine the effort required to maintain a high standard of airmanship. But that’s your job. This wasn’t tough, sector five at 7pm, no I’d take that any day.
That last scene before the crashing sound looks so cryptic and i can imagine the gripping effect it wouldve added if this were a deadly disaster like incident. Well done as always Allec.
@@dylan_van2198 Yeah, I'm honestly surprised AJI has not retired FSX yet. It was a revolutionary simulator, but a little outdated and obsolete now. The graphics are showing their age. X-Plane has a huge variety of planes and liveries he could use on the market, and I'm sure MFS will follow up with that.
I come from Morlaix and i've seen this aircraft, it's stored with a lot of other CRJs at Morlaix-Ploujean that have been there for years. Brit Air no longer exists, and the situation at Hop ! is so bad it's scheduled to cease operations in half of the operating airports including Morlaix. Employees have set up banners to protest, but it looks like it's over anyway...
2 videos in one week. I’m very impressed. Sleepy pilots should never be in the cockpit. I rather take a day off then to risk people’s lives. Glad everyone survived.
@@vectorvictor2911 Noah...thanks for explaining that to the rude guy! Yes...they were exhausted. DUH! Still, I can't understand why they never used reverse thrust to slow it down. The longer times allowed with commuter operations has led to many mistakes and accidents over the years. They fly with different rules than the majors.
@@rogerhuber3133 Yeah, its crazy.! Sometimes at longer runways planes will only use Idle reverse, but from what I can tell these guys just forgot...Fatigue is a killer!
I think an earlier destination diversion might have served the pilots well in this case. They were already fatigued and when I saw “puddles,” prior aquaplaning, and those wind components, I needed no convincing.
TC/Runway conditions ? Well.... Aquaplaning, puddles, strong gusts at 180° and by the way, also cows, goats, heavy machines, my wife having fun splashing the kids. Have a great landing boys !
So many warnings from ATC. The passengers put their lives into the hands of the pilots during flight. I fully understand being tired, and the fact that we are human, mistakes are made. Don’t have an answer on how to fix but time after time it comes down to procedures failing and it does not appear to be a function of training.
I work shifts as an ER doc. Those first nights of a string of 5 are killer. I understand bone weary fatigue. But, I work with very capable nurses. Jeez, I feel bad for the passengers on this plane-both pilots trashed with fatigue!
11:05, correction, F-GRZE was stored at Morlaix-Ploujean Airport between February 26th, 2019 until August 11th, 2020. The aircraft later returned to service on August 15th, 2020.
Absolutely ridiculous. Lockdowns are a bad joke. Solves nothing except to make wimpy politicans look BOLD while throttling your God ordained LIBERTY + IGNORING Legit Health Principles. People WAKE up FEAR is the only contagious virus we need be concerned with.
@@hellosunshine1090 France is now locked down again for the fourth time since 2020. I dearly hope our "leaders" will have their butt kicked during the forthcoming elections this year and next year. I hope we'll never see them again except in a jail, the only place where they belong.
@@hellosunshine1090 • I happen to agree. It ceased being about health, which at first some well-meaning leaders agreed. However, after a while, it became about power and taught us some good lessons about acquiescing to governmental authorities. Never again.
@@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 Indeed ! Mere Politicians abuse people to gain power. Real Statesmen bless people by restraining power, which secures God ordained LIBERTY. This 'synthetic' crisis has revealed which is which.
Fatigue has almost the exact same effect as alcohol. People have the impression that pilots work very few hours compared to their own work in an office. I have, on one occasion, been making an approach into Heathrow (London Airport) where the FO has had to tap me hard on the shoulder as I was falling asleep while flying an instrument approach in very, very bad weather. He was in no better condition than myself. Typically, a cross-wind landing with a similar-sized aircraft to this would be limited to 10 knts on a contaminated runway.. their crosswind was right on limits for a dry surface runway, this was very definitely a contaminated runway. We make thousands of approaches, landing safely, over our long careers, they all end, as they should, in people quietly exiting the aircraft. The one occasion when it goes wrong is 'a shot heard around the world'. I retired a few years ago, I feel a quiet satisfaction that I damaged no aircraft and injured no one. There were some very testing moments.
I don't know about anyone else but from the sound of that crash I expected that plane to be destroyed and some lives lost. Thank goodness this was not the case. Maybe I'm wrong but it sounds to me like these pilots were very fatigued and maybe not really comprehending what ATC kept trying to alert them to and therefore mistakes were made. Luckily no lives were lost. Thank the good Lord for that. Enjoyed the video Mr. Allec.
I'm somewhat disappointed in the lack of the typical detail of the exterior of the airplane. In this video we see mostly darkness with only a little bit of the details of the external structure of the plane.
The ATC might have interrupted the checklists but they were providing critical need to know information to the pilots...I got the feeling the ATC wasn't satisfied with the Pilots/FOs responses on the Puddles and Aquaplaning info hence why they repeated it. The ATC also seemed extremely concerned with the weather situation which was far from ideal. 5 flights in a day for the Pilot/FO....that's dangerous to say the least and Fatigue was inevitable. How much of the Pilots/FOs mistakes were as a result of the fatigue is unknown. At least the aircraft made it safely to the ground despite the messy landing
The other day I commented that “the vast majority of crashes were down to pilot error “. I’m now increasing this to “every crash is now caused through pilot error”. What are these people doing. Did they even pass a car driving test !!!
I would never get in a car if I knew the driver was fatigued or tired. I guess with a plane it's the flip of a coin. Needless to say I gave up flying many many moons ago.
It’s a good thing that United Airlines will be hiring pilots based on their skin color and sex. You don’t need competence piloting your aircraft, you need diversity.
ATC: "The runway is wet with puddles and other flights have reported issues landing." Flight 937QL: (no response) ATC: "Just wanted to repeat that the runway is wet with puddles." Flight 937QL: (no response) ATC: "Did I mention the runway is wet with puddles? Just sayin' " Flight 937QL then overshoots the runway because it can't brake in time.
Fatigue,fatigue,fatigue.Add bad weather and marginal installations...and you have it again.Excellent controller inputs.Normally,they won‘t say it as clear: please divert.Happy everybody ended safe.It can happen to anybody,every day.If you disagree,you are not in this trade.
Because there were no fatalities, they were probably reprimanded and got more training, and because it was really the airlines fault for overworking them and not allowing them to get an adequate amount of sleep prior to the flight.
Ok, so first thing that I wanna say is that; I am aware that this will sound awful & if there really is a "HELL" , then I'm most likely going there for this, but 😬. . . . . . I often find myself fast forwarding &/or looking up the "crash" via flight# to see if there were any fatalities & if there were none, I tend to just skip that particular episode ( kinda like this one 😏) In case you are wondering wtf is the point of commenting on it at all? Idk! stop asking me so many questions FFS! (sorry had to 😅) But really tho I guess I just want(ed) to know whether I will have any company down there *or* if I will be spending eternity all alone? Just curious 😉
Personally prefer the ones with a happy ending, even for the plane. They are all interesting and I am often screaming in my head for the pilots to throttle up, reduce flaps, push the nose down or just damn well read their instruments. Some are unlucky, some tired and others beyond redemption.
Myself not being a pilot, and just wondering, are these folks fired after an incident as this one where, yes, mistakes were made, but, other factors were present? Or are they retrained and perhaps evaluated, maybe reassigned? And, if let go, are their careers as pilots over? You do need to take into account the ‘human factor’. Also, reality is that a pilot is not ‘made’ overnight, so the skills already in place could still be of use somehow.
The better airlines run a policy whereby pilots who have made genuine mistakes and have no chronic record of poor performance receive training and remain in the airline. The pilots will have to demonstrate in that training that they have the competence to continue though. If there is a failure of decision making or leadership, captains are generally demoted and required to undergo a long retraining period before being considered for command again.
I'm a little confused by these "slippery runway" incidents. I'm not a pilot, but formerly a frequent airline flier. To me it always seemed that once reverse thrust was applied the aircraft was down to walking speed in 10 or 15 seconds, even in rain or snow conditions, and that wheel braking wouldn't matter much at all. Can the pilot decide to rely more on reverse thrust and less on brakes? Or is the amount of RT always the same?
Effective braking is what stops an airplane. Reverse helps a little, probably less than 20%. Standing water on a runway is a big problem. Poorly designed runway.
Never heard of this incident. I've heard of the other BritAir crash that killed the captain, but this one is new to me. Has AJI ran out of the Mayday scenarios?
That 2 weeks to flatten the curve stretching on for over a year is really wearing on people and a lot of them came here to take their frustrations out in the comments 🙀
There's no mention of reversers. Not armed? Spoilers not in auto? Missed those checklist items? Oops! Definitely not paying attention to heavy rain and puddles warnings. Surely a fatigued few. Very fortunate indeed.
A small part of the accident report.. "Nine seconds later, the main landing gear touched the ground about 1,130 m from threshold 25. The ground speed was 140 kt. The spoilers were extended. The crew deployed the thrust reversers and then applied "Max reverse" thrust. The aeroplane decelerated."
So here's my question, for anyone who knows or cares to answer, do the pilots get fired because they can't do basic cockpit checklists to completion & crash a plane? I would hate to fly on a plane by some of the pilots/co pilots in Allec's videos. Imagine knowing.. or actually NOT knowing the pilot on your flight home or on to your vacation destination has crashed a plane only months or years prior? Scary
I was in a car steered by AI on a test track, there was a safety driver. The car slid slightly on wet area then suddenly added a lot of power turned 90deg and crashed hard into the Armco setting off all the airbags. The safety driver sighed "Oh no not again!" Got out and started picking up the bits. he said nothing to the passengers. He could not have done anything to prevent the accident, it was like lightening. A car came and picked us all up with a mild sorry about that. Who knows what the AI was thinking??
