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Drastic bare root action taken to try and save my guava 

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You may have seen my video a couple of weeks ago where I talked about my rapidly deteriorating guava and the initial steps I took to see if it would show any improvement. Needless to say there has been no sign of any change and the green growth buds have just been turning brown. So I've decided that I had to take drastic action to see if anything could be done.
If the problem is root related rather than a disease the only action I can take without the use of a heated greenhouse is to remove the plant from the pot, inspect the root ball and in this case completely wash away all the old compost and start again. Its crucial you use luke warm water to do this, icy cold water from the tap would definitely shock the roots and surely kill off any slim chance of saving the plant.
The main enemies of tropical fruit plants in this country are cold and wet, things that invariably occur together in our winter, even when they are brought indoors. Guavas are drought tolerant ( if planted in ground ) but are also very thirsty plants do it's easy to get it wrong as I seem to have done.
I would NEVER recommend anyone trying to bareroot a tropical evergreen plant, it just isn't likely to turn out well as this kind of treatment only really suits dormant deciduous trees, but I felt I had no other option but to give it a go.
The mix I used to keep it extremely well aerated and quick draining is
1 part coconut coir fibre
1 part composted bark
1 part orchid bark mix
1 part citrus compost
2 parts perlite
Sorry but I missed a small part of the middle of the video out where I showed the roots mostly
washed clean of the old soil, the video was getting too long.
Finally I've enclosed the plant in a polythene 'tent' to increase humidity and stabilise the temperature and moved it to a shadier but warmer location in my house.
I will do an update in a few weeks regardless of whether the plant dies or starts to recover.
Thanks for watching !

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@MoebiusUK
@MoebiusUK 4 года назад
A similar thing happened to my guava. It looked pretty identical to yours, maybe worse. I thought it had died. I brought it into my indoor grow room and just left it ignored in the corner. It got some light from a small T5 fluorescent that was hanging 1 meter above it. Within a couple of weeks I noticed lots of new growth from the base so I cut off all the dead branches and repotted with a lighter substrate of perlite , general compost and added manure. Its doing great now. I suspect yours will make it too.
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
That’s encouraging, I’ve certainly used a much lighter, better draining compost now, I’ve cut well back into green stems in case of anthracnose or some other die back issue. I’m hoping enclosing it within its own polythene ‘bubble’ will work by increasing humidity to take stress off the plant 🤞🤞
@GardeningwithLadyCheryl
@GardeningwithLadyCheryl 4 года назад
I hope this tree recovers. I’ll be watching the video updates. Kindest Regards! 👍🏾
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
Fingers crossed for a miracle Cheryl 🤞🤞
@joestropicals6760
@joestropicals6760 4 года назад
Fingers crossed Brett, hoping this one pulls through 🤞
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
You never know, it might. At least yours are all shooting out 👍
@andrewhunter5254
@andrewhunter5254 4 года назад
You may try sealing up the pruned branch ends to stop the air getting in as some plants struggle to pump there sap up when they have open wounds. Best of look
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
Think I need to nurse the roots first, I don't think its moving any sap right now, but I've sealed it in a polythene bag so I'm hoping the higher humidity will work 🤞🤞
@soby123
@soby123 4 года назад
Worth trying Brett. Such a wonderful fruit.
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
Nothing to lose by giving it a go......🤞🤞
@voxintenebris6367
@voxintenebris6367 4 года назад
So funny, you have exactly the same 'resuscitation ' kit as myself, same composts and meter! I did the same with the lime, but the dieback kept moving further down. I tried a different strategy with the Yuzu. The Yuzu (minus any leaves and looking awful) was bone dry, I held it out of the window and watered it until the water ran out of the base. I held the plant there until the dripping stopped. I have now raised the pot some 3 inches off the surface, allowing plenty of air underneath. Citrus being citrus, it may not show its disgust for some time, although healthy branches are growing again now. Brett, not only have these plants had insufficient light quality this past season, but we are watering with tap water, which is no comparison to a more acidic rainwater. Perlite will also raise pH. My citrus looked happy in constant rain last summer outdoors, no waterlogging issues then, but pampering them indoors and not overwatering, they suffered - the same problem, that mid section of the pot never drying out. The temperature in my house is far warmer (22.5/ 23) than most greenhouses would be, yet the mid section would stay sodden for weeks. Although I used pot raisers in the trays, they only allowed some 2cm, I now have the Yuzu much higher, hoping that better air circulation below will help. In the interim, the daylight quality has improved vastly and that I think is the key. (I just put a large desiccant thingy in the car, I'll put one in the citrus if it happens again!) I don't have any guavas, but most tropicals seems to suffer similar problems. I would like to see the plants sold in a pot with the same diameter top and bottom. Funnel shaped pots don't work to my mind. All the best Brett and Guava!
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
This is my first drastic rescue attempt, generally they seems to expire quite quickly but maybe this will succeed. I have the same situation with my kumquat, it probably needs the same treatment. I was lazy when I repotted it, I left the old soil around the original root ball which was like cement, it’s a fraction of the size of my grapefruit plant and in a much smaller pot but weighs more lol. I’m going to have to soak the plant in a bucket of warm water maybe later this month to remove all that ‘concrete’ and use completely fresh compost. Fingers crossed for some success 🤞🤞
@voxintenebris6367
@voxintenebris6367 4 года назад
I am going to try some outdoors this year, nothing to lose, I have enough. If forecasts are correct (laughs) we are in for a severely cold winter as opposed to wet conditions. I have 2 young limequats in addition to the other 3 and a 1/4 limes, Yuzu, 2 grapefruit and lemons. My passion fruit are growing well, hope to add one to the greenhouse - if the hop allows it, blinging thing is rampant, taking over the place.
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
@@voxintenebris6367 lol I don't pay much attention to the 7 day forecast, much less one for a year's time , I've got enough issues in the here and now 🤣🤣
@homegardens7682
@homegardens7682 4 года назад
You shouldn't be chewing the tree Brett. You need to wait for the fruit!! That's the general idea!
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
Ohhhhh did a say something daft I missed in the video 😱😱, oops 😬😬
@homegardens7682
@homegardens7682 4 года назад
@@lyonheart84 just pulling your leg Brett!! LOL!
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
@@homegardens7682 haha thought I missed something, you know I don't edit my videos 🤣🤣
@homegardens7682
@homegardens7682 4 года назад
@@lyonheart84 I would never have guessed. I cant stand RU-vidrs who dont edit their videos! 😅😅
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
@@homegardens7682 I'm learning from you Dan 🤣🤣🤣
@iiTzHaroon
@iiTzHaroon Год назад
My pink guava died completely luckily I had rooted cuttings so I have a backup
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 Год назад
You were lucky you got cuttings to root, they are tricky and I’ve never succeeded. I’ve got a few pink ( probably ) guava plants. Boy this was an old video 😂
@anythingeverythingblog
@anythingeverythingblog 4 года назад
I hope u save those trees they seem to be growing tall .
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
It was 4 feet tall before I had to cut it back to 2 feet 😭😭
@anythingeverythingblog
@anythingeverythingblog 4 года назад
Is it too cold there now ? They seem to do better on humid places .
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
@@anythingeverythingblog lol Ronna all my tropical fruit plants stay inside from November to May, they'd be dead within a week if I left them outside. Daytime temperatures here in March should be between 40f and 55f for most of the month, probably with the occasional colder and warmer days. We will get a few frosts this month and in April. Its lovely and humid outdoors but of course too cold, my problem is the centrally heated air indoors is too dry for most of them 😖😖
@anythingeverythingblog
@anythingeverythingblog 4 года назад
Must be sick then. I couldn't figure out why 2 of my citrus trees died haha. Hope it comes back to life.
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
@@anythingeverythingblog very sickly, I've featured it in several videos over winter as it got worse. Citrus are a nightmare, need the correct citrus compost and overwatering is their curse, they suffer root rot very quickly 😭😭
@barrycartwright8400
@barrycartwright8400 4 года назад
ive just repotted my six pink guava's what i grew from seed. And my Akebia Quinata Cream Form is flowering not sure if it will get any fruit off of it this year this variety is suppose to be self fertile
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
Hi Barry yes I've had loads of flowers for several weeks now on my Akebia but only one is flowering so I'm not expecting anything plus there are no bees around lol. I've got about a dozen 4 inch tall pink guava seedlings crammed in 2 pots but think I'll leave repotting them until May when my other plants will leave the kitchen as I'll have space for them indoors then 🤞
@barrycartwright8400
@barrycartwright8400 4 года назад
@@lyonheart84 i only repotted them because they were getting abit to big i had like six in 3" pot
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
@@barrycartwright8400 lol snap, that's exactly my situation
@zhirra29
@zhirra29 2 года назад
Tell us if your guava survive ?
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 2 года назад
Yes I saved this guava and I have many other guavas. Please go to my guava playlist if you want to see updates on this plant and some of my other guavas 😁
@zyante1
@zyante1 4 месяца назад
My guava looks like this. :(
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 месяца назад
It’s a common problem in cooler climates with too much water 😢. Thankfully I saved this one 🍾
@Eppest
@Eppest 4 года назад
Do you have any tips on where to buy tropical plants and fruits?
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
Where are you based and what kind are you looking for as there are different suppliers for different kinds of plants?
@Eppest
@Eppest 4 года назад
lyonheart84 exotic fruit growing I’m located in South-Norway. Im looking for a mango tree, grafted and maybe some mandarin tree.
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
@@Eppest I believe www.canarius.com send plants to Norway they have a huge choice of exotic fruit plants, also www.flora-toskana.com and www.lubera.com have a good selection, they all do mail order
@Eppest
@Eppest 4 года назад
@@lyonheart84 Thank you! Only Canarius sends to Norway, but I have to trade for 200 Euro + shipping and customs if they are to ship to Norway. Where did you buy your mango tree? Has it received fruits? Did it set flower the first year?
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
@@Eppest yes I know, they have a minimum order value for export, it's the same for sending to the UK but I bought about 8 different fruit plants so it was no problem. I bought a mango Keitt from them. The plants from canarius are only about 50 to 70 cm tall, probably about 1 year old grafts. I do not think they would fruit for 3 or 4 years. Actually I had a few flowers in the 2nd year but of course they didn't set fruit. Unfortunately I do not have a greenhouse, my plants are outside in summer, it is not really hot enough for them to grow quickly or produce fruit. If you have a heated greenhouse you should be successful if you are patient 🤞🤞
@garycard1456
@garycard1456 4 года назад
Brett, in addition to the emergency measures you've undertaken to prevent your guava from kicking the bucket, I would highly recommend watering with dilute hydrogen peroxide. Not only will it introduce pure oxygen directly to the roots, but hydrogen peroxide kills off fungal and bacterial pathogens, in addition to fungus gnat larvae. It works against spider mite, too. Here's what I am having success with: buy 12% food grade hydrogen peroxide. Dilute it 3 parts (by volume) with water to give a 4% solution. To a volume of that 4% hydrogen peroxide solution made up, dilute to the ratio of 1:2. So, for example, if you have 100mL of the 4% hydrogen peroxide, dilute it with 200mL water. The resultant dilute hydrogen peroxide is good to go. It is dilute enough not to be at all harmful to plants (I've tried it on mine), but it 'nukes' fungus gnat larvae and pathogenic fungi and bacteria in the stagnant potting mix. The hydrogen peroxide also 'cleans' the roots by oxidising dead/rotten root material, while live roots are invigorated by the oxygen gas it gives off. PS: for citrus compost I recommend an Italian brand called 'Solevivo Mediterraneo'.
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
Hi Gary. My other citrus are doing really well in that compost so far and I can pick it up at all the local nurseries and B&Q as well which suits me as I'm lazy to make more effort Haha. Lol also I'm off Italian produce at the moment 😁😁. In fact we both made an incorrect assumption about the roots of the plant which has complicated the diagnosis. Although I said in the video that it was certainly holding water in the centre and felt 'heavy', in fact the roots looked in perfect health throughout the whole pot, no stagnating or heavy cloying soil, no sign of root rot or dead roots anywhere, no smell whatsoever, no sign of any larvae or insect presence, no visible fungal or bacterial growth, in short not what I was expecting to see 😖😖. I have no idea if guava are affected by anthracose like mangoes but if so that could be what's responsible as I lost one of my 2 mangoes to it this winter. I have got a bottle of 3% hydrogen peroxide solution to hand so I might try that out but as the roots looked perfect I think I'll give it a week or two in its 'plastic bubble' and see if there is any sign of life 🤞🤞
@voxintenebris6367
@voxintenebris6367 4 года назад
It is also possible to soak barley straw in water in order to generate hydrogen peroxide, it would be done that way in order to clarify open water systems, water butts, lakes etc
@garycard1456
@garycard1456 4 года назад
@@lyonheart84 In the very early stages of hypoxia (oxygen depletion at the roots) you just get leaf drop and twig dieback, while the roots retain a healthy appearance for some time. Then, once the plant's energy (sugar) reserves are depleted due to the inability to photosynthesis (no leaves!), the roots begin to decay. In the past I lost a guava, and I can guarantee that it was related to the potting mix staying moist for too long during winter, when the plant is not transpiring much at all (weak sunlight); the water retention is compounded by it being indoors and not exposed to air currents like it would be when outdoors and subject to breeze. Do you have means of warming up the pot? Root function is temperature dependent. Warming the pot may help bring the plant back to life. My 'Nam Doc Mai' mango had an anthracnose attack this winter. I managed to save it by spraying the leaves with copper-based fungicide (copper oxychloride). Well, I believe it was anthracnose: the leaves were turning necrotic (brown and crispy) at the tips and edges. The browning gradually consumed the whole leaf. I could also see a black mold/mildew on the leaf surfaces that could not be washed or rubbed off. A the time the mango was under attack by fungus gnat larvae, which were dealt with by a 2% hydrogen peroxide soil drench. Now the mango it is under a grow light and is putting out new growth. I wonder if the fungus gnat larvae were responsible for causing the anthracnose. After all, the larvae create open wounds when they munch on the roots, leaving them vulnerable to fungal invasion.
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
@@voxintenebris6367 yes my dad tried that barley in his pond, didn't help at all lol. I've got hydrogen peroxide here, but I think I've interfered with the plant enough for now 😉
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 4 года назад
@@garycard1456 yes I'm not sure where the anthracnose originates from considering how far we are from the tropics. I agree I still think it's a water issue but fortunately the roots looked intact. No bottom heat available but the plant was standing on a gravel tray on a ceramic tile floor in my kitchen and not near a heat source ( except the window if sunny ), so now I've moved into my dining room nearer to a radiator with a window above and in a sealed polythene bag, I'm hoping the warmth in the vicinity and no direct sunshine might act as a 'hospital's zone
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