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@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 3 года назад
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@bravevoice2771
@bravevoice2771 4 года назад
I think the problems are the user's technique. This is a Dremel , not a 2.5 HP router. You should concentrate on keeping the Dremel vertical and use a feather touch on the forward motion. Use two hands, not one when, using an edge follower and make sure to keep the guide flush to the edge, On any power tool you can only advance at the rate that the material is removed or it will buck. Let the tool do the work.
@davebenson1504
@davebenson1504 2 года назад
and maybe start with a shallow pass and add depth each pass... the attachments do have the ability to set the depth...
@EdE6688
@EdE6688 2 года назад
Exactly my thoughts after watching the video.
@MrCristianflorin
@MrCristianflorin 2 года назад
True, probably not even a dremel looks a bit cheap... or maybe a very old model
@crocuscreekwoodworks
@crocuscreekwoodworks 2 года назад
Yep, slower would have worked better.
@firebladex8586
@firebladex8586 2 года назад
@@davebenson1504 exactly, that's how you are supposed to do it
@TheGunguy461
@TheGunguy461 3 года назад
"This cut probably could be cleaned up by doing another pass." Why didn't you do another pass and find out?
@JohnColgan.
@JohnColgan. 3 года назад
02:30 that T track bit, you needed to cut z straight channel to depth to allow the t track bit to go through. The burning was the shaft having to cut/burn its way through the MDF The bits that gave rough finish while using the edge guide. The Dremel is wobbling from pushing through the cut. you need to support & push the edge guide and hold the Dremel steady.
@high3rthannasa979
@high3rthannasa979 10 месяцев назад
Good comment right here. 👍 I kinda thought something was off so that's why I checked the comments.
@Bereadyalways123
@Bereadyalways123 4 года назад
Your trying to take to much out at once, thus causing the bit to near over-load and try to wander under pressure and is dangerous as the bit could snap and fly off...take two or three routs not one deep cut, exactly the same as a real router...Ray an ex TREND routing demonstrator for 15 years UK...
@Amperzand
@Amperzand 4 года назад
Thanks for the tip Ray. I will do it in shallow stages.
@JohnBubriski
@JohnBubriski 4 года назад
This is great to know. I've tried to use a dremel as a router in the past and it didn't work... now I know why. There don't seem to be any informative videos about routing with a dremel!
@MegaJasonic
@MegaJasonic 4 года назад
Good advice. I've kind of been discovering this naturally as I've been learning and playing. I bought a bunch of bits and blades along with a press stand. Seems to be going ok if I take my time and take everything in controlled "layers".
@martygrant3205
@martygrant3205 4 года назад
Your not controlling the guide correctly, You can see a gap when you start making a cut which of course will not give you a straight line when cutting. You need to keep pressure on the guide to keep it flush against the material and definitely multiple shallower cuts will help. Its a great little tool but they have limitations..
@planesstevee
@planesstevee 4 года назад
You need to be making more than one pass mate!!!!
@GeekDetour
@GeekDetour 2 года назад
"As you can see, I could not make a single straight line..." Maybe a CNC machine is what you need :)
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 2 года назад
Long since bought a Shapeoko 😉
@knightourage7441
@knightourage7441 Год назад
DONT BE SOFT TO THEIR PRODUCTS wobblles and jags means they got ( F ) Simple failed Return those bids
@rudytoth
@rudytoth 2 года назад
You were pushing it through the wood kinda fast. You should be slower and let the speed of the Rotatory Tool to do the work. 👍🏻
@jimcoogan1529
@jimcoogan1529 4 года назад
I have the router base for my Dremel with the same bits and use it a lot on items that are too small for one of my other routers. I use a slower speed and feed and take smaller bites. They work well and have also used the same bits on my small CNC.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 4 года назад
I never even though about using them on my CNC! I'm going to give them a try on my Shapeoko and see what happens. Thanks for the idea!
@jimcoogan1529
@jimcoogan1529 4 года назад
@@MakeTechCreate Slow speed and slow feed. I use them to do delicate detail work. I use them on bandsaw boxes with the Dremel.
@Vman7757
@Vman7757 4 года назад
Oh and use the straight bit first. Then the t bit.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 4 года назад
Great tip! I didn't even think about doing that.
@ItSeemsDark
@ItSeemsDark 4 года назад
yep :)
@panchomachine
@panchomachine Год назад
Hola 👋🏻. Sabes como consigo eds base metálica???. 👋🏻 Hello. You know how I get that metal base???. Greetings from Chile 🇨🇱 Saludos desde Chile 🇨🇱
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate Год назад
You can find them online. Try Amazon or ebay. Thanks
@panchomachine
@panchomachine Год назад
@@MakeTechCreate Thank you . Greetings
@mtbwithjonnyb8818
@mtbwithjonnyb8818 4 года назад
Start your bit shallow and then adjust for deeper cut. That’s what I have found works best with the dremel
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 4 года назад
Thanks for tip and thanks for watching.
@mtbwithjonnyb8818
@mtbwithjonnyb8818 4 года назад
No problem
@kpp_3
@kpp_3 3 года назад
Yep I agree. It's interesting to see what happens when you cut deep on the first pass but wouldn't recommend to do that
@EPSTomcat11
@EPSTomcat11 3 года назад
Do y’all think it would rout pine?
@EclecticEcentric
@EclecticEcentric 3 года назад
Looks like you were forcing the tool - which would result in rougher cuts. And as you pointed out, perhaps a softwood would have been a better test. Always use the right tool for the right job
@bluematrix5001
@bluematrix5001 2 года назад
JUST SEE HOW THE DREMEL WOBBLES WHEN IT MOVES ALONG AND HOW HE PUSHES THE DREMEL INSTEAD ALLOWING THE DREMEL MOVES NATURALING AND YOU JUST GUIDING IT...THAT EXPLAIN WHY THE RESULT IS NOT BETTER
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 2 года назад
Thanks for the tip!
@christieseven3805
@christieseven3805 2 года назад
Hola. Excelente video. Muy informativo, breve y conciso. Me mostro justo lo que estaba buscando. Muchas gracias. Saludos desde México.
@danc3831
@danc3831 4 года назад
You know a hand saw has many teeth on it but everyone seems to use just 3-4 inches as they saw back and forth frantically and quickly thinking they are working faster. My grandfather taught me many years ago to use the entire length of the saw slowly and let the tool " do its work" as your slave. My point is "let the tool do its work" within its ability here. You're asking too much of the tool by forcing the tool to eat more meat than it is capable thus a poor result. Slow down the load on the tool and see the difference in your end product. This tool will work fine within its capability and in capable hands.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 4 года назад
Thanks for the tip and thanks for watching!
@guyh.4553
@guyh.4553 3 года назад
Dremel's are meant for finer detailed work. YOU severely skewed your review. On most of the work you're working on its best to use a router, especially with T-Slots. Another thing is you are free handing your passes. Set up a simple guide to run your tool. I don't care for this video!
@harryinhuahin1272
@harryinhuahin1272 3 года назад
He said at the end this would not replace a router, but maybe you didn't get that far... So, I don't care for your comment.
@Cam_B
@Cam_B 3 года назад
Where are your videos? He's showing Dremel attachments, not router attachments.
@terrybrooks395
@terrybrooks395 Год назад
You're trying to take off far too much in one go with that tiny motor and cheap bits, the keyhole cutter is never going to work well as you can just take off a small amount first then set it deeper like you can with the others (which is what you should have been doing)
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate Год назад
Thanks for the tip
@matthews2122
@matthews2122 2 месяца назад
I agree with everything you’re saying except for the keyhole bit. You can use one of the straight bits to hog out all the material in the middle up to the same depth of the keyhole bit. Then use the keyhole bit to take out the bottom wider portion, it should work then. It is the same concept as taking shallower cuts out rather than trying to take the whole depth of the bit out at once.
@robertodetoni-d4t
@robertodetoni-d4t 10 месяцев назад
TRADURRE IN ITALIANO, GRAZIE
@Vman7757
@Vman7757 4 года назад
I bet if you clamped a board as a fence you would get a cleaner pass.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 4 года назад
Possible. This was just a quick test. Using the full size Dremel router base would probably give better results, too. Thanks for watching!
@JanineMKartist
@JanineMKartist 4 года назад
MakeTech I’m thinking of getting the plunge router attachment since I think it will be easier to control for edges.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 4 года назад
@@JanineMKartist Sounds like a great idea. I haven't tried it myself, but I'm thinking about buying it.
@MateyGardelOriental
@MateyGardelOriental 4 года назад
You are moving to fast..Let the machine work..
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 4 года назад
Thanks for the tip and thanks for watching!
@javierdominguezvicente472
@javierdominguezvicente472 4 года назад
Creí que ibas a hacer un RÓTULO ,o una pequeña talla ....para utilizarlo para cortes rectos y vaciados ....pues bueno ,habrá máquinas mejores . Un saludo
@janetstone236
@janetstone236 4 года назад
Thanks very helpful - as I have old paneling that is 'out of print' so to say, and I have to install a panel piece over a doorway I am closing up- so I need to match the random grooves, but do not want to purchase a router, and this seems to be the answer, I don't want a dremmel, but it's cheaper than a router. Thanks so much. This panel will be painted, and no one will look that close (hopefully) ha!
@Mainbusfail
@Mainbusfail Год назад
If you want to get good results with rotary tools like the Dremel, you have to think and work in a micronic space.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate Год назад
Thanks for the tip
@Mainbusfail
@Mainbusfail Год назад
@@MakeTechCreate Oh man, that really wasn't aimed at you so much. I hope that it didn't come off as ash whole ish.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate Год назад
Lol ... no problem, we're good.
@victorlaureano30
@victorlaureano30 2 года назад
Hola buenas noche CM están soy dela República Dominicana CM puedo hotener un dime con toda esa pueda
@mzylberdoc
@mzylberdoc Год назад
Hello. what speeds do you use? thanks
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate Год назад
Depends on the bit. Start at a mid speed and adjust from there.
@ebony1732
@ebony1732 3 года назад
Have you used two handed approach.. upper control & lower hand control.. much slower hand control push speed would make better cuts .. Trial & error , I would say !
@pedroloza4288
@pedroloza4288 13 дней назад
Centros de servicio en la CDMX. Y costo de las fresas para Dremel router.
@pir869
@pir869 3 года назад
That "T" slot should have had the centre cut made first with a straight cuter to relieve the "T" cutter from thermal wear,and not burn the motor out,instead of one pass to make the entire cut.
@harryinhuahin1272
@harryinhuahin1272 3 года назад
Somebody already said this... lol
@josebenitez6513
@josebenitez6513 4 года назад
Hello. They third bit you used Is More for making small cuts from the edge to the internal of the mdf in order to get a notch to hung a framed picture. Thats how I use this bit for. Congratulations for your helpful video
@noeaguinaga4018
@noeaguinaga4018 3 года назад
You aren't even holding your fingers against the guard and your trying to get a clean cut? And your doing it on a 5 inch width? Come on man...try it on a longer length and try placing your fingers against the right side of the guard when starting the cut and keeping it firmly placed up tight...then place a finger against the left side of the guard once cut begins and then give your 2 cents on this product
@IanKWatts
@IanKWatts Год назад
when using the dremel to cut a T slot, pardon my near sightedness but I did not see you cut the straight slot first. The idea for doing such is to take the tension from around the T slot cutter bit and thus you hopefully would not have so much wood burning in the process. But you could be right for do mention using a straight bit first and the problem of burning may be in the type of wood i.e. MDF to Pine.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate Год назад
Thanks for the tips!
@chewningwitmer5806
@chewningwitmer5806 4 года назад
Mine works too. I used the woodprix plans and performed it without any problems.
@kblkim
@kblkim 2 года назад
10 years as an interior trim Carpenter, Rule #1, never ever never touch or tinker with a bit or blade after it is installed on a power tool. When routering, ALWAYS pull the router towards you. Carpenters do not push a router down the board. All carpenters HATE particle board. Real carpenters do not use glued sawdust (particle board) to do any project unless that is what they are forced to use.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 2 года назад
Good job! 👍
@emiller9426
@emiller9426 4 года назад
Good rundown showing various bit designs and what they produce! Next I would vote for a demonstration on edge trimming laminate after its been applied to plywood.
@contessa.adella
@contessa.adella 9 месяцев назад
Cheers for the demo. The rough cuts were because you were pushing the tool a bit too fast.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for tips!
@phillallen01
@phillallen01 2 года назад
Sorry but all i can see wrong in this video was user error you should be using 2 hands instead of one you should be using the guide rail properly to start with and the T track bit would have worked if it was not cutting so deep
@claudeelliott3993
@claudeelliott3993 Год назад
nobody USES A "t-track BIT" to cut without starting with a straight bit cut to feed the t-track bit through. If you are going to "review" products without knowing how to properly use them learn first and preach later.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate Год назад
Maybe you should give us a lesson, Karen. Since you seem to be a no-it-all in everything. It would be far more useful than being a useless comment troll!
@adkinsmikkelsen4980
@adkinsmikkelsen4980 3 года назад
In my first work I always used Woodglut plans.
@mos6507
@mos6507 3 года назад
a-"gain".
@sk13ppy
@sk13ppy 7 месяцев назад
Were they dremel brand bits or a cheaper alternative? You can't call them by a product name if that's not what they really are and you can't expect cheap junk to perform like quality tools and accessories.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 7 месяцев назад
They were the cheaper alternative. Have you tried the Dremel brand before?
@bjmgraphics617
@bjmgraphics617 4 года назад
This demonstration tells me that the Dremel can't replace a router. It's a detailer tool and not a main tool for construction. Thanks
@harryinhuahin1272
@harryinhuahin1272 3 года назад
Which is what the guy said... lol
@ladykenja2700
@ladykenja2700 4 года назад
- The “T” trac cut should be made in at least 2 passes & a jig would make the cuts cleaner.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 4 года назад
Thanks for the the tip and thanks for watching!
@jimcoogan1529
@jimcoogan1529 4 года назад
I always use a straight bit first and then the T trac bit. Makes for really nice cuts.
@calebturner405
@calebturner405 4 года назад
I bought a dremel from Wal-Mart, and it came with all the attachments, like a handle, and the cutting attachment and such, for $45, I think it was. It was not a bad deal for the 5 attachments and 25 cutting/sanding bits I got.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 4 года назад
That sounds like a good deal to me. Thanks for watching!
@calebturner405
@calebturner405 4 года назад
@@MakeTechCreate Thanks for the video!
@ChiKaNelJarMe
@ChiKaNelJarMe 3 года назад
He tratado de encontrar este accesorio en Chile hace mucho tiempo, lo he buscado en muchas tiendas, "BROCA DE CORTE 561 Y ADITAMENTO GUIA DE CORTE 565 DREMEL"
@cyecaudle9419
@cyecaudle9419 2 месяца назад
Pro tip: dont watch with earbuds in.
@kevins3453
@kevins3453 3 месяца назад
Multiple shallow passes with router bits, fella...🙄
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 3 месяца назад
Thanks for the tip, Buddy!
@chrispompano
@chrispompano 3 года назад
.....well, this is where the start of my project begins after seeing this video..... I need to cut a small square channel appox. 1/8" x 1/8" deep into a 1/4" clear acrylic rectangular rod that makes a frame with rounded corners at the top and bowed sides. There is not a straight edge to work with for any kind of long straight edge guide. Not sure what tools and how to set this up........ I need to place a small string of LED lights into this channel. Pretty delicate routing I need to do, and not sure how to go about it....... Any suggestions or ideas would be appreciated.
@justjoe942
@justjoe942 Год назад
Good information; thanks for posting it.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate Год назад
You're welcome 😊
@Hemilover69
@Hemilover69 4 года назад
You showed how to put on the rotary attachment (which is obviously very easy since it just screws on) but you did not show how to put bit on and adjustments??
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 4 года назад
The bits attach like all other Dremel bit, by sliding them in and tightening the collet nut. The adaptor has a thumbnail screw on it that can be adjusted up or down for height. Thanks for watching.
@KE-cq5pn
@KE-cq5pn 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing, Decision: i,ll never buy one
@cosagame
@cosagame 2 года назад
Can you make a tutorial how to cut out pointy flames from 12mm mdf? cannot find a tutorial on how to cut out or if possible if you want to make multiple how to make a template so you cut out later by just following the template.
@jillphillips8117
@jillphillips8117 3 года назад
I like your video, but I think that you need to slow down when doing those passes. Give the rotary tool a chance to work.
@yakatdookith205
@yakatdookith205 4 месяца назад
Your moving speed is too fast.you dont give the bit enough time to do the job nicely
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the tip!
@IrsyadGalleryKayu
@IrsyadGalleryKayu 3 года назад
Can I buy this
@rogeliomorfinflores4372
@rogeliomorfinflores4372 2 года назад
Nice video, thanks
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 2 года назад
You're welcome 😊
@jungleowl
@jungleowl 3 года назад
Hi thank you for the demo but most important, what should be the insert point, ie, how far in should you fix your routing bit ?
@guyh.4553
@guyh.4553 3 года назад
Agreed. Any router work done, especially like the way you are showing, is always ALWAYS done in steps. Progressively getting to the the desired depth you want. You are overloading the tool
@jungleowl
@jungleowl 3 года назад
@@guyh.4553 tks.
@justinsane332
@justinsane332 2 года назад
the bits arent failing, your failing. you are trying to cut too much in one pass
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 2 года назад
I'll have to take your word for it as you seem to be an expert in failing!
@KanoWhite53
@KanoWhite53 3 года назад
Good info thanks! Slow down a bit when cutting though. Looks like it's chewing the wood a bit.
@barneyf.howell6378
@barneyf.howell6378 3 года назад
Quick comment that may already been made. Yu are man handling the tool. This is a Light duty tool. Slow the hell down. They work much better than what you have shown.
@michaelstreeter4546
@michaelstreeter4546 3 года назад
You need to slow down and let the bit do the work your pushing too much and thats why your cuts look bad
@prototype8861
@prototype8861 3 года назад
Yes the line isn't straight and once again the bit does the job but it's not a straight edge. go figure.
@colleencook382
@colleencook382 2 года назад
This just popped up in my feed today-2 years later! Thanks for the information!
@jocelynegagnon1273
@jocelynegagnon1273 8 месяцев назад
Pas de film en francais
@carmeloramirez5816
@carmeloramirez5816 3 года назад
hola como esta muchas bendiciones donde puedo encontrar esos accesorio
@shawngleason1345
@shawngleason1345 3 года назад
Probably more to do with material being used soft wood can be tricky never mind that stuff
@khiaraslaw
@khiaraslaw Год назад
Way to deep.. more passes with shallow cuts
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate Год назад
Thanks for the tip
@ashokballatagi1318
@ashokballatagi1318 3 года назад
Great job. Cost of tool kit. I have Bosch dremel with 4mm collet.
@christyhyche9287
@christyhyche9287 3 года назад
You should make your cuts from right to left. Not left to right
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 4 года назад
A better base might make these work. Neat kit. Thanks for the review.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 4 года назад
You're welcome and thanks for the tip!
@niffirg1988
@niffirg1988 3 года назад
Stop putting your finger on the bit itself. Strange things happen.
@davidtitz2346
@davidtitz2346 Год назад
Hi, random question. Can the cutting attachment be used as a drilling guide? Let's say if I loosen the bolt on a side? Thanks
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate Год назад
Maybe, but I can't see that working well. There are plunge router bases for dermels and other rotarty tools that would work much better for what you want.
@whatshappening177
@whatshappening177 3 года назад
No you need to step the bit each pass. You are trying to take too much in one pass bud.
@1-Nice-Guy
@1-Nice-Guy 2 года назад
Slow it down.
@mickblues07
@mickblues07 Месяц назад
Not a very good demo as all the cuts were rough
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate Месяц назад
Thanks for the input
@junangeles
@junangeles Год назад
This makes me play around more with my rotary tool va getting a 200$ router tool. Thanks
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate Год назад
It's worth a try!
@tricialock8203
@tricialock8203 3 года назад
Thank you for making the video! You have a lot of helpful information. Now to get the bits and other parts.
@nateb4543
@nateb4543 3 года назад
How would burring or carving bits do with this application?
@fusiongurudotcom8195
@fusiongurudotcom8195 3 года назад
Take more passes and it will work better
@lsseaside7303
@lsseaside7303 2 года назад
What a helpful video thanks a lot! I'm wondering how would it work on pine wood? And are there dremel better quality bits do you think?
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 2 года назад
I've bought a couple of the Dermel brand router bits since and they do seem better quality.
@jamesbfaber7770
@jamesbfaber7770 4 года назад
Keep the edge guide snug against the edge of the material.
@allenbarnes7202
@allenbarnes7202 4 года назад
You are trying to cut to much to fast.
@twincanons
@twincanons 3 года назад
what kind of rotary tool are you using
@thebackyardgriller9076
@thebackyardgriller9076 4 года назад
Nice job, I am not an expert but making multiple passes little by little makes it easier and it is safer. Thank you for sharing👍
@tjforgey7854
@tjforgey7854 3 года назад
Your taking to much at time
@patriothandyman2439
@patriothandyman2439 3 года назад
Total user error. Too fast, too deep, one handed unstable feed. Micro router bits can't be forced any more than a standard router bit. Are you a beginner?
@nurfilme
@nurfilme 2 года назад
Guter Test👍
@foos.998
@foos.998 4 года назад
Just got a new Dremel. Thanks for posting this!
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 4 года назад
No problem. Thanks for watching!
@MrFlint51
@MrFlint51 4 года назад
Do the T-track with s atright cutter to depth, then the T-track for the side channels
@MrFlint51
@MrFlint51 4 года назад
Should have written "straight"
@tomfile3131
@tomfile3131 3 года назад
Canadian, eh ?
@kylieb4836
@kylieb4836 3 года назад
Even with a router, you need to step it down with a few passes.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 3 года назад
Thanks for tip and thanks for watching!
@kwokcheongwong4411
@kwokcheongwong4411 3 года назад
Thanks for the video,helps me a lot.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 3 года назад
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching.
@WoodArtVlogs
@WoodArtVlogs 3 года назад
Wow amazing
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 2 года назад
Thank you! Cheers!
@scottdoscher5607
@scottdoscher5607 3 года назад
Great video. Thank you
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 3 года назад
You're welcome!
@JoseGonzalez-ij5ny
@JoseGonzalez-ij5ny 3 года назад
Todo magnifico
@capoteandoeltemporalbrico
@capoteandoeltemporalbrico 4 года назад
Muy interesante !! 👍
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 4 года назад
Thanks
@donmiller324
@donmiller324 4 года назад
Stewmac makes a couple of Dremel bases and some bits. Check them out. I own one.
@MakeTechCreate
@MakeTechCreate 4 года назад
Will do ... thanks for watching!
@juliomacedo9015
@juliomacedo9015 4 года назад
Site para poder comprar esse produto
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