I just received my dbs-22 jig yesterday and spend the Saturday afternoon setting it up and figuring out how it works. There is a lot of feeling involved and not a tool I would recommend to any clumbsy person looking for fast quick solution. If it is accuracy and precision you are after then this will be hard to beat in cost. Professional tool sharpeners for machine shops can cost as much as a small lathe and still won't be able to sharpen your knife or woodworking tools. The beauty of Tormek is it's versatility and if you only want to use it to sharpen drill bits you might find it very expensive but if you use it to sharpen the many other cutting edges used around the house and in your DIY toolshed, this is worth it's weight in gold.👍
Thanks, guys. I use my drill bit attachment a lot. There's a learning curve, but once you get it dialed in, the process is easy. The sharpened drill bits perform very well. And the manual is good, as is the youtube video.
Hello Team Tormek, your live shows are amazing and i have always a lot of fun watching it. But in order to be able to show the really important points, you need extremely sharp shots of the drill tip, for example, and in between, of course, the results of the respective processes. Unfortunately, I miss that in all live shows, and it's really annoying when you think you can finally see exactly where the sticking points are and are disappointed again. It wouldn't be dramatic to change the video afterwards to include photos that show exactly how the drill is clamped, for example, which lines of the drill have to be aligned with the horizontal line, how the primary and secondary facets look after the respective processes and so on Thank you for your understanding. Gabriel
Thank you very much for your feedback! The video on the DBS-22 Drill Bit Sharpening attachment was made quite a while ago and we got much better with our live sharpening courses. (This is at least what we think 😉) We appreaciate your feedback and try to consider that for our next live shows!
For basic drilling hand sharpening is fine but to drill accurate holes especially on machine tools and making deeper holes for threading for instance, hand sharpening simply doesn't cut it anymore...no pun intended🙄 Being able to have 100% symmetrical cutting edges means perfectly straight and round holes👍
good tutorial, but in First setting up the grinder, not the attachment to it; what grit wheel, and speed does one use ( and is this a 'coarse' or 'fine' cut, as this would determine what grit you go for, for quick removal of a lot of material, aka refurbasing a damaged drill, or if you just want a fine polish to improve the cut, or to prepare for a finishing operation).
This was very well done, but I think it should have been explained what the end result is if you sharpen to a non symmetrical point. Many will already know but some won't. The drill will make an over sized hole. This drill sharpening attachment obviously works with Tormek's latest model of grinder. Was it designed to still work with your previous models?
That's true, it is a big big difference if you don't have a symmetrical point. Thank you for adding that :) Absolutely, you can use the DBS-22 on previous models as long as you got the XB-10 Horizontal Base.
@@TormekSharpening Ok thank you for the added information that this drill sharpening attachment can also be used with the Tormek I have. You make an excellent product and I've been more than happy with my Tormek.
Thanks for the tips. Do you recommend using both primary and secondary grinds for all bits 3mm or larger? Or do you just grind a primary on the smaller bits?
Hi Jon, I do both primary and secondary facets on all drills. I want to obtain the 4 facet point even on smaller drills. Also it doesn't take many seconds the whole process especially on smaller drills.
Hej Paul Somolo, if you use the Tormek Diamond Wheels, we recommend to use them wet and then you'll need the ACC-150 Anticorrotion Concentrate, one bottle is supplied witht the wheels. If you mean the water bottles on the table, I can't give a scientific answer if this gives you a more staedy hand or a sharper eye sight, but it hold us hydrated ;-) /Wolfgang
Hej Dave, you can use a firm pressure, not to hard that you can't control the movement. It´s also depending on the drill's size, small one are mostly done very quickly due the small surface and you don't need any pressure at all. Th bigger the drill's surface the more pressure you can use. You should have good controll over the sharpening process. //Wolfgang
The Drill Bitt Attachment DBS-22 does an amazing Job, However for Models and Machinists Drill bits below 1/4 inch require an additional collet chuck to provide support closer to the Grinding wheel. The Tormek Sharpening System is the best with the exception of bit below 3mm
Hej Dave, it is very rare that we had the question to sharpen drill bits below 3 mm, but an good idea is to use a collect chuck for the shorter drillbits to support them perfectly in the holder. /Wolfgang
good point, but this machine is designed mainly for 'hobbiests' in the shed, crafts, woodworkers, to sharpen those tools, knives, axes, etc. for Machinists, the tool to use is a Universal Cutter grinder, which has collets, and specific features for these miling tools, and sizes down to what a watchmaker uses, those very small
I have tried the conventional collet, and I am not satisfied with the results. the collets I have used do not grab the brill bit using the full length like the DBS-22 and only truly clamp down on the front section of the drill bit. this can result in a an error in the sharpening. I am looking for an adjustable collet similar in construction to the Tormek DBS-22 but for sub 3 mm drill bits. Preferably that will fit into the DBS-22 as then all the exact same setup process is retained.
Hej Dave, we haven't a collet for drills under 3 mm and a minimum length of 46 mm. Maybe some metal worker can construct a tube with a centered hole that fits to your drill bit size. It´s extremly rare that we have the request for that size of drills. Sorry that I couldn't help you with more information.
Hello! Glad that you're interested in a Tormek! We do have resellers in Saudi Arabia. Head to our website to find resellers: www.tormek.com/international/ar/resellers/
Thank you for the feedback! Yes, we will try to hold it more still next time. We want to move it to show the steps but I agree that it's maybe too much at times.
This does NOT give a true split point drill. A split point is undercut to the point, so there is a cutting edge at the web. This is more a cross point- some improvement, but nowhere near as good as true split point. So it does not give 'ideal cutting performance'. Note that both are a waste of time if you are using a pilot hole.
Sorry to hear you think that. We are trying to improve and we think we have done so very much if you compare our first sharpening class with our latest 😅 Hope you find the information useful anyway!
Please have respect and understanding. Doing a livestream is incredibly challenging and does not allow editing and switching camera angles and lenses or making use of tripods or stands.
Yes you can simply do some basic sharpening on a grinder or buy a new drill bit every time one gets blunt but I challenge you to see how many 22mm drills you will get for the price of this jig🤔
