As more and more movies and TV shows are being trimmed, edited, censored or simply removed from streaming platforms, me and the gang ponder where this is all leading and how to combat it.
The self-righteousness of people censoring the past as if humanity today is so perfect that future generations will have no room to judge us is an example of our current society's collective narcissism.
what often pisses me off is when a youngster will "excuse" scenes in classic movies by saying, "we can't judge them by our standards; it was a different time" No, it was a different _culture_ . And one far superior to the preschool playground that is modern culture.
You know what I think? These are grumpy angry millennials that did clown studies in university (the social sciences and law) and couldn't get a job in what they graduated in, should be glad if they could get a job flipping burgers at BurgerKing, contrary to the rosy future their teachers promised them with a lot of riches (many just graduated think they gonna earn a 6 figure salary or there about) and are now so bitter and angry that they want the rest of the world to feel as miserable as they are, because they fucked up the opportunity of studying something decent instead of living wazoo in lalaland.
John Cleese actually got into it with an NPR reporter who was trying to tar him as a racist because in one episode of Fawlty Towers an old racist shithead visits and he says racist shit before getting kicked out for doing so. The NPR freak thought that audiences shouldn’t have had to experience racism on their screens and John Cleese sets him straight. To paraphrase Cleese, “you can’t always cater to the dumbest person in the room”.
20 years ago my wife asked why I was buying so many DVDs of movies and TV shows, they just take up space etc .. I said it was an insurance policy because the TV channels were always editimg out chunks. Glad I kept it up.
@@marbellaotaiza801I have the DVD and actually came across a VHS copy of it at Goodwill (but the magnetic tape itself is exposed, so I’ll have to seek out another). But yes, you’re right. Regardless of how you feel about 45, his cameo in that film is part of the original film itself. I remember being pissed when after 9/11, when the twin towers were being removed from broadcasting due to sensitivity. I remember home alone 2 was one of the affected films.
@@tbc9096 now that you mention 45, there's a dub in Spanish, rerun in cable in certain Caribbean countries at least (maybe in all Latin America), where they changed a scene of Die Hard With a Vengeance: when McClaine and Zeus are in a car trying to figure out a past president's name to know which school has the bomb, McClaine goes completely off character to say "Hilary would be 45". Little details, some might say, but fully in line with 1984s famous paragraph: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." Gives me the creeps. Hope you find your copy...
There's a difference between saying you personally don't want to watch something because you find it offensive and saying no one else should be able to. The first is freedom the second is oppression.
Or maybe.... there is something heinous that should be documented & archived, but not published Like human centipede or god knows straight to DVD stuffs
It's the perfect combination of a culture which doesn't want to make new things and also demands that old things be censored/replaced-- so you end up with nothing good, old or new
On top of everything else, whatever they create is EXACTLY the same as everything else they create. Not a single movie or show has its own unique look or feel anymore. It's all set as modern, regardless of whether it was the Ancient Past, the Medieval period, the Victorian Age or the recent past. It all looks, sounds and feels the same. It's also not uncommon for current day fantasy to use words like "mojo, c'mon, etc." in it, regardless of the fact that both the word and its meaning doesn't even EXIST in the fantasy world? The same goes for the costumes of different people in the fantasy world, the weapons, the places, the characters, etc.
You hit the nail on the head. I remember an ad on the TV a couple of years ago that used a Beatles song but they censored some of the lyrics. If an old Beatles song is well known and iconic? Why cut it, why not use something new and original instead? You end up stuck between nothing new or original and anything old is censored and watered down.
"Buy Physical Media" ---Agreed, but be advised, Windows 10 for example makes it very difficult to play discs bought as late as the 2010s. Even disc-playing software having nothing to do with Windows is actively interfered with. When they said "you will own nothing" they weren't kidding. Or, you'll own stuff, "but we'll just make sure it doesn't work."
The thing I hate the most about censorship is that it’s lying. They’re lying to me. They’re saying: “you didn’t see that! You didn’t hear that! You saw & heard THIS instead!”
More people who seem to believe George Orwell wrote “1984” as an instructional manual. Next, they will create the Ministries of Truth, Plenty, Peace and Love…
No, its worse than that. They want you to be weak and fearful enough to lie for them b/c they told you to. They dont care what you saw, or that you know they're lying, they only care if you don't do what they say you should.
The function of The Ministry of Truth is to rewrite everything so that the original creators, being the government, are seen as having never made a mistake and are perfect in every way. In a very direct way, Hollywood is trying to do that with a lot of their IPs and have been doing it for decades though never to this extent. Remember when they switched the rifles the cops were holding in ET to be walkie talkies? The current race swapping and censorship is from people who now want to prove to the world that they are better in every way compared to those that made movie art in the past. It’s the people who want to cover up the nudity in the old paintings and artwork from centuries ago.
My parents still have a hard time understanding my obsession with getting physical copies of everything. They bought me a kindle and they don’t understand why I don’t use it so much. I’d rather spend the same amount of money on a physical copy that will never become corrupt and will never be changed or taken from me. My current library is fully catalogued in an app meant to be used for insurance purposes and my book count is well over 1300. I need to get going on my movie collection, but my books are the most important to me. I hate the idea of someone telling me I can’t have my books. Censorship is the worst.
@@HellsYeah8 so true! Books smell amazing! And as long as they’re kept nice, old books tend to smell good because the type of tree the paper was made of had a vanilla scent to it. I remember looking into it once. But there are so many people that let their old books get musty and moldy. It sucks.
I first watched Toy Story 2 in theaters and there's a scene where Buzz gives a riveting speech in front of a waving American flag. I have a Blu-ray copy now and *that scene* was changed to a confetti-spraying globe. That was my first experience with how old media gets changed to conform to "modern sensitivities".
I watched Ducktales on Disney+ just to relive my childhood, and I was suprised to see one episode labeled "offensive for modern audiences". I tried to figure out why - it had a vaguely middle eastern character in it, but he was funny, a bit silly but likeable, and portrayed as one of the good guys. I kept expecting him to turn out to be a jerk because of the warning, but nope. So what stereotype is that and why was I supposed to be offended?
Thinking like a leftist, I'm going to guess that the voice actor for that middle eastern character is white. Kinda like how the destroyed Apu from The Simpsons.
@@lauraw2526 lol Yeah, its still a tossup in some cases that are not always clear. Usually it ends up being that "stereotypes" are only bad if non-leftists do it. Because as we are seeing with the show Velma, racial stereotypes are perfectly fine there lol Because the lady voicing Velma is Indian, so Velma now being Indian and acting like a stereotypically horrid Indian woman is...okay? I guess? lol
The Aladdin movies have the same warning and they still haven't put on the old Aladdin Saturday morning cartoon on there, so yeah, it's something to do with the middle eastern character. It's been years, but wasn't he a kleptomaniac?! But everybody was greedy and addicted over treasure in Duck Tales. It's the whole point.
I watched Inspector Gadget as a kid and a few years ago bought the DVD sets so one day I would be able to show my kids a series I loved when I was little. The one episode that was my favourite has Gadget going after a mafia clan of family members that was hysterical, however it was not in the set. On further research, I discovered it was removed, along with a few extra episodes, because it had "negative offensive stereotypes". Those sets got promptly tossed in the bin, and I've made a bootleg DVD with all the episodes on it as a response.
You ever seen censored Kingsmen? You know the church scene? Go watch it if you haven't already but the censored version is truely hideous to watch. It's as if the camera man just started violently shaking the camera so you can't see anything happening and also made awkward crops just in case any blood appeared in the frame.
@@sonoftherabbitpeople4737 Dear Son, Given Drinker's, Mauler's and possibly Chris Gore's knowledge, they might give you movies/TV shows to grab that you haven't seen. Frank.
The idea that there's always a chance that the media you love will either be censored or taken away from you is exactly why I'm an avid collector of physical media. Movies, TV shows, books, video games, etc. All of that stuff HAS to be preserved.
I'm a Hispanic woman and I never wanted to watch something just because it somehow represented me in some way. That mentality just never made sense to me.
That's an AMERICAN mentality, or at least Southern Californian and New Yorker. If I wanted to see media close to my being Filipino, I'll just watch what our local media produces. The Fil-Ams have no idea that their sensibilities don't actually resonate from outside of their country. Jo Koy's "Easter Sunday" is more American with an extremely FOREIGN view of Filipinos than anything else.
Guys you have no idea how deep this goes: I picked up a book by Cicero a few years ago in a popular London bookstore and read the foreword (written by the translator herself) out of curiosity where she explicitly stated that (and I'm going to butcher it) "this book needed an update that meets contemporary standards". Yeah.
You mean That Cicero? The Roman one? Who wrote his stuff roughly 2000 years and four English civilisations ago? That is outdated! Who could have thought. It’s madness.
Until a year or 5 ago I would just read this as simply having translated his letters into modern English instead of English from the 50's. Now I would be afraid of this meaning his words getting twisted and turned into completly different things
I read a history of the French Revolution, where the (french) author, in the foreward was trying to frame it as, 'not as bad as the American Revolution'. It put me off of reading it initially. When I went back to it, once the author started telling the history, they had enough intellectual honesty that the history was actually very good. Though, at the closing the author tried to again make the case that 'per capita' there weren't as many killings as in the American Revolution... the facts told the truth of the story.
The slippery slope argument reminds me so much of that episode of South Park where they were making fun of family Guy. Where I believe Cartman explains how once you get one thing removed/changed anything and everything is fair game. These are the times we're living in.
I totally agree with these sentiments. I remember back in the day when Star Trek was considered edgy for having an androgynous alien show romantic interest in Riker. Now hetero people on TV are the new taboo. We're literally shamed for being hetero or showing any interest in hetero activities. LGBTQ characters are allowed to flaunt their sexuality on TV and in movies, but old-fashioned hetero romance on TV is going underground.
I always thought that particular episode of STNG was terrible. Tell me, why would Riker be attracted to an androgynous alien at all? The man was dating Troi at the time, she is definitely NOT androgynous! I thought the writers were trying to be far too politically correct to be realistic, and the episode came across as propaganda.
And I'm going to be honest with you as a gay person we don't want this stuff shoved in our faces either. I like strong male characters I like strong female characters. I don't give a damn about who they are screwing, UNLESS that is apart of vital character development. It's just them trying to pander to us and it's frankly pathetic.
@@kyubii972 You are one of the few members of the alphabet community that has figured out the plot of the woke. Congratulations, you are a nerd. Welcome to discontent!
Which is actually what I think that Star Trek episode was about. While the episode could be interpreted as pro trans, her people wanted to take her to a reeducation camp to become genuinely androgynous because she felt herself to be too distinctly female. This was forbidden, because her society had "advanced" (i.e. progressed) beyond male and female. In the name of progress, distinctions of masculinity and femininity needed to be erased by force. Sounds like today's society.
Hey Critical Drinker, I don’t know if you’ll read this, but I wanted to write this anyway. I’m 19 years old and recently found your channel. I watched your video called “Stop with the Remakes”, and the message you left towards the end of that video really resonated with me. Much like good books that have been censored and attacked throughout history, good movies are under attack as well. The message you left inspired me to start collecting movies again. I used to buy DvDs, but I soon stopped. Not only have I started collecting again, but I decided to watch some of the old classics since I’ve been growing tired of the ADHD, brightly colored spectacles in Hollywood recently (I just finished watching The Shawshank Redemption for the first time). I want to say thank you for producing the content that you do. Best, Will
I’m encouraged by you Will. It’s refreshing to see that some youth are still capable of critical thinking and being able to be independent in ideas and action. It appears your parents raised you well. Please continue your disc collection and stay free and brave!
Not only do I retain my 500+ DVD collection, I also use VLC to rip the movies into digital files so I can load them onto my TV/Shield/phone/whatever and watch them without needing a DVD player. A buddy once asked me why I keep them when I could "just stream, bro", to which I pointed to the massive bookcase my collection is on and asked him to tell me which streaming service hosts which movie, with me already knowing that _at least_ 85% of them are not and never will be on streaming. Of course, this same guy also told me I should've "just" uprooted my huge desktop and carried it back and forth into my living room instead of simply buying a micro PC for the entertainment center, so I think his main problem is wanting to look smarter than me without really thinking before he talks.
Nice! Two of my brothers have done similar. They have Plex servers set up where they rip all their movies too. I don't think I have the tech for that yet, but I've thought about doing the same when hubs and I get a bigger space.
@@ariannablove I'm looking into Plex or other solutions like it. The most important thing is that whatever computer holds the movies and runs Plex should never be connected to the internet. I don't trust that internet providers are not going to snoop around to see what devices you have connected and one day they might give you problems for having a home movie server.
@@ariannablove I just stick with VLC. It can be done 100% offline and once you learn to decipher the way the video and audio tracks are laid out, you can even rip them with commentary, dubs and subtitles built-in.
The thing that is even more baffling to me is when these companies buy the old IP and then bury the old stuff that created the fan base. My wife and I went nostalgic and watched old Sesame Street episodes (a kids public TV show that's been on the air in some form since the late 60's, think Big Bird or Elmo). HBO bought the catalog of episodes and some viewing rights to save the show from bankruptcy and immediately dumped almost all the regular human cast of the show, some of them had been on it for 40+ years. And then they "messaged" the show and changed the shows style and length. They did allow some of the "classic" episodes to be streamed, but availability and choice, not as many as you'd think. And in the last few years the same left leaning creators decided the previous left leaning creators weren't progressive enough and -ists/ -phobes. So they removed even more of those classic episodes. Growing up, I wanted to be as cool as Gordon. He's black, I'm not. I had a major kid crush on Maria. She's Latina, I'm not. I grew up surrounded by rural Midwest white people. This show showed me that ALL people were good and worthy of being respected. But apparently that message isn't good enough anymore.
Started rebuilding my physical collection a couple years back. Mainly 4K and Blu Ray, some DVDs for stuff that isn't available otherwise. I feel good about having all of it available whenever I want it, and I know that the specific version I bought won't change in the future. They want you to own nothing so they can control you. Buy physical, if nothing else for posterity
Owning physical media is extremely important. BUT people also need to do their research and check on when a particular piece of physical media copy was made. Disney still makes new press runs of older films but these newer ones are the same version on streaming and have censored or cut scenes.
This is something I'm worried about. For instance with their Community example, there's the set from 2016 and 2019. Are things missing or not? I try to always go for the older versions for the safer bet. Sometimes DVD over blu-ray for that purpose since the quality is still good enough
This is why I spend time in thrift stores and consignment shops buying videos and dvds. I still have VHS players and my dvd players and I constantly go to thrift stores looking for VHS and DVD copies. There are a lot of VHS copies that were changed when they went to dvd. For example, Disney has been changing the cut of movies like Muppets Christmas Carol and Happiest Millionaire. They constantly change older movies when re-released. It's getting more difficult to find the original version!
Yes! For the 4K release of Toy Story 2, for example, they cut Stinky Pete’s blooper during the credits. Thankfully it’s still present on the prior blu-ray releases.
Always Sunny in Philadelphia no longer has the banned episodes if you buy the physical copies. The older versions have them but they changed them when they took the episodes off streaming services.
indeed, et has 2 versions that are physical, the first is the original and the 2nd is the "remaster" where they turned the guns into wakie talkies and replaced the puppet with terrible cgi.
I've always collected physical media and was mocked when Netflix came out by everyone in work cause they all kept saying how the future is streaming and you can watch it all there. I just simply said do you think other companies won't want a slice of that pie? Now they ask to borrow from me cause one of their many streaming services dropped movies or shows they liked.
Even in the early days, Netflix sometimes didn't rotate movies or shows - they didn't come back because Netflix lost it's license to host the show. This used to be common knowledge but now normies are starting to see that you can't rely on cloud services.
99% of women love to be dominated whether they'll admit it or not. Just check the erotica they prefer to read and write. The only question is whether she finds the man sexually worthy.
This why in work I'm saying physical DVDs will come back (CDs less so and most people who are into a band buy lps) as i can see in a few years every media company will have their own one and it will be worse than Tv as you cant just remove an episode.
@@RodSerling7 Speaking of Blade Runner, I want to add it to my collection but i'm not sure which version to get since they made like 8-9 different cuts :S
My Dad, who survived both Hitler and Stalin came to the US, and was just AMAZED by the concept of freedom of speech. But, until the day he died, he could NOT understand why people, WITH that sort of freedom, actually WANTED, nay, DEMANDED censorship - of movies, TV, radio, books, newspapers, magazines, and so on. His take on censorship was that IF a movie, TV show, song or show on the radio, a newspaper, book, or magazine was SO terribly offensive, then either change the channel, or turn it off; in the case of printed media, don't read it. That is why I am holding onto my physical media for dear life, despite the amount of space it is taking up. In the first Spider Man movie, there is a scene where Peter/Spider Man is taunting the wrestler Bonesaw by saying, "That's a cute outfit, did your husband buy it for you?" Recently, the studio reportedly cut it and Peter only says, "That's a cute outfit." Yes, there is stuff that is going to offend, no matter HOW "sensitive" the writers and the studios try to be. Put the warnings on the packaging, and let it be. If someone watches it despite the warnings, they deserve to be offended.
I own Song of the South. Can't take that away. Have the old Star Wars movies before they were changed to show Han shooting second. My collection of movies from the 1970's to 1990's provides a lot of joy and can't be replaced by digital. My kids enjoy them too and can point every scene that would not be allowed today. I didn't know I grew up in the Wild West but now it seems like I did.
I was watching Bedknobs and Broomstick couple months ago with my family. Despite having the disk version, my dad insisted on streaming it through Disney+. While watching the movinle, I noticed a lot of scenes were cut out like the first scene with Mr. Brown doing his magic tricks and the entire Eglantine song. That is why having older hard copies of movies and shows is a necessity. You never know what could be cut.
@@tomgames8616 That is very possible, it was just strange that they didn't include two somewhat important sequences which showcase how much of a Fraud Mr. Brown is in the movie.
I have to interject here but the Disney+ one you are describing is the original release version, I know because I own and have watch multiple times in the past the old VHS tape version myself. The DVD version is a Special Edition Restored version that has the deleted scenes reinstated and you can tell this in the end credits because some lines had to be redubbed because of lost audio. Jeff Bennett, a modern voice actor he voiced Brooklyn from Gargoyles, is credited there for voice acting.
Did they cut the entire eglantine song or was it less? The dvd release is an extended version, so that sequence is longer on dvd than it was theatrically or vhs, and the magic sequence was also trimmed for the original release cut, so I’m very curious if they cut those out completely or just simply didn’t have the extended cut.
Stark Raving Dad is an episode from the Simpsons that has been removed from Disney+. It featured Michael Jackson as a guest star (even though he is not credited as such) and contained one of the greatest moments of the series (“Lisa It’s Your Birthday” song). Just one example of why you should own the physical copy of media.
Another is streaming removing the South Park episodes with Mohammad, in case a future engineer of peace decides to culturally enrich dozens of people like Charlie Hebdo again.
This is why my husband and I have an extra storage facility. Books, vhs', dvd, records etc. They can't be edited or removed. Anything online can be easily changed or removed. We're about preserving what we can.
My favorite is having purchased a digital version of some movies that I lost access to because the rights were sold. It's ridiculous and infuriating. Same thing happened with some games. I owned a digital version of Marvel vs. CAPCOM 2 (a classic 2000s fighting game) and once Disney bought marvel it was mysteriously removed from my library and I couldn't re-download.
Nerdrotic said, “It’s going to get worse before it never gets better.” He was talking about Disney, but it’s equally applicable here, for all the editing and censorship.
If Star Trek is supposed to be the idealized version of the future, you'll note that in addition to war, crime and poverty all being eliminated, there is also no comedy.
Also no God or Christianity ☦️. Morgoth's Review was talking about how the Borg was probably the Federation from the future(federation was already deep in transhumanism with Data and Jordies eye glass installation) and they have no connection with God to temper their pride.
This is why DS9 is the best trek. Because there is comedy, and fun, and greed and crime and all the human stuff. The Federation we see there is great... But they are also ruthless and understand the price you have to pay to ensure that most of your citizens never need know about war or crime.
Also have to note that the earth of star trek was a society born out of the ashes of ww3, nuclear armaggedon and the horrors of the anarchy and atrocities that followed for over a century.
Exactly. On top of the censorship, people are forced to pay a monthly fee to watch content that they used to buy at a one-time price and own outright. Plus, as you guys point out, there's no guarantee that the content won't be disappeared due to the woke agenda. I've got original copies of Song of the South, Dumbo, E.T., etc on my server. I literally feel like Guy Montag in Fahrenheit 451 these days.
Kudos! You not only know what the book (& movie) “Fahrenheit 451” is; you know who Guy Montag is! Bonus if you know why Ray Bradbury used the title “Fahrenheit 451”…
Watching Bill&Teds bogus journey on tv recently I spotted at least five edits where the punchlines of the jokes were removed ( because woke) I actually shouted ‘what the f***!’ At my tv. I’ve since noticed this happening to nearly all my favourite films now.
Speaking of "censorship", one might wonder why the Director of the FBI has been invited to the World ECONOMIC Forum Annual Meeting in Davos. I am sure the Director of the Federal Bureau of INVESTIGATION is an expert in ECONOMIC studies. Maybe they are looking for additional ways to censor humans to keep humans from speculating about certain plans that may be hatched at these types of conferences.
And.... one answer is not visible...... how I hate this elide akenta to make their little perfect world with thoughtless and mindless people tying young and full of boison
They are doing the equivalent to burning books. The only difference is that they remove it from streaming and sell physical copies of replacements. It is a bit less dramatic to look at.
And this is why I have actual books, records, and DVDs. They can't come and edit my property but they sure can censor your digital subscriptions. Although it's a mystery to me why anyone subscribes to these services owned by companies that hate them.
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@@kenjifox4264 Treated like any other contraband, like firearms, drugs, or pornography. 'Yes, officer, I did have that kilogram of cocaine, but I er.... lost it'. They search your home, car, and colon to try to find it - or threaten to. 'We got him, boys', said Officer Largefingers, as he held up a blood-and-shit-covered thumb drive marked "Little Britain".
@@Noodles.Doodles That's crazy if it ever comes down to that. But out of abundance of caution: 1) I intend to use cash to buy a few disc players and TVs. 2) Never connect them to the internet so my ISP never finds out I have extra devices (will disable or rip out their network modules)
Above and beyond the censorship being done at all, how quietly it's done is the real killer. You can't just look else where for content that was removed half the time if you never knew it existed in the first place. It's not like a playlist goes and tells you "episode 3 removed due to X reason". It's just not there, or a scene you never knew existed was removed.
They'll even re-number the episodes on streaming services to make it look like those episodes never existed. It's happened to The Boondocks and Aqua Teen Hunger Force among others. If you want the episode of The Simpsons where Michael Jackson voiced over, you can't buy the episode singularly, you have to buy the whole season the episode is a part of.
Even new content is sometimes being censored for the most ridiculous stuff. Bluey, a fantastic (and super relatable) cartoon for young kids, has had several episodes removed for various idiotic things (iirc, they use the term “ooga booga” or something similar during an episode about the kids pretending to be monkeys, or another one where the dad dog pretends to give birth to one of the kids from a baby carrier /eyeroll). Unless you follow the show outside of Disney+, you’ll have no idea these episodes are missing or edited.
You also have to be careful what you buy even if you get physical media. Not uncommon for it to be altered or changed with little to no warning on the box. Quite often such editing is hidden behind a more general remastered release.
My first real experience with this kind of pervasive updating is in Star Wars. I personally think the scene where Han shoots first is the iconic and definitive versions of Star Wars-Episode 4. I hate the clunky slap-dash edit that tried to make it look reactionary. It is clumsy to the point of being farcical, and it robs the character, and the story going forward of that foundational scene of Han's morality. It establishes so much so quickly... Every time I watch star wars and see a point blank shot for two feet veer off at a sixty-degree angle to strike the wall, I remember I'm not really watching Star Wars.
I remember watching a live-action version of Little Red Riding Hood with Isabella Rossellini as her mother (Red Riding Hood, 1988). I saw it on cable in the '90s and there was one song I was surprised to see, because I figured the message wouldn't sit right with the powers that be. It was sung by Red as she skipped through the forest (shadowed by the wolf, who was a werewolf in this version) titled "Never Talk to Strangers" but included a verse about how strangers are friends you haven't met, so if you don't say "Hi" to strangers how will you become friends. Last time I watched that movie my expectations were met: the song had been removed.
I’ve been investing into physical media since I was a kid. Even With censorship across all media getting worse as time goes by, I’m still buying physical media. Even though my investment in physical has got some people looking at me oddly, it won’t stop me from preserving the past.
Me neither. Physical media is the way to go and preserve what we love and cherished when we were growing up! Are you Generation X? Sadly I think we are the last generation that cares about things in original form.
@@atranfanatic: I can't speak for him, but I'm a millennial (88) and I guess it's because I'm one of those old millennials, but anyone with eyes can see what's happening to our media...
@@atranfanatic: It's crazy... I remember when I was a kid "millenial" only meant any one born during the year 2000... I used to be Gen X until they moved the goal posts and made it "anyone old enough to remember y2k is a millennial" Edit, actually, I think it was anyone who was a teen or younger during Y2k... either way It's pretty murky.
Fortunately I've been buying physical media (and amassing quite a sizable collection of it) for decades now, and with the increasing censorship going on with streaming, I now feel vindicated.
You collection of physical media is as good as the availability of the hardware to play it. We used to have videodiscs (movies recorded on a vinyl record). They became obsolete within a few years, player and discs stopped being manufactured. So what good does having the discs do you once the players die? We used to have lots of VHS tapes. They stopped making VHS players a few years ago. What good will those tapes do once the last players die? What good will a DVD/BluRay collection do once the players no longer exist? Once the only means of watching movies is streaming (because they simply aren't released on physical media) what will you do? Once players, even if you insert a physical medium, just uses that physical medium to verify that you are an authorized viewer, but then simply streams the content instead of playing it from the disc, what good will a disc collection do you? Books at least do not require hardware to access their content. But anything that does depends on the availability of that hardware. And that hardware isn't going to last forever.
@@flatebo1 My DVD player is a no-phony-baloney Sony, over 20 years old & still plays like new. My Toshiba VHS/DVD player, while not quite that old & while being a bit worn around the edges still plays reasonably well. I also have no fewer than four BluRay players that also play standard DVDs very well. As for laserdiscs, I never invested in them in the first place because as soon as they came out I could see even then that they were a doomed technology; a technological dead-end. As for hardware not lasting forever, well...ever made a visit to an antique shop? Or visited a Barnes & Noble lately? Lo & behold you see racks & racks of....vinyl LPs. So you were saying...? Sorry, but I'm not going to buy into 'what if?' hypothetical gloom-and-doom scenarios about 'what if your player dies?' I mean, you can worry about that (like you can worry about a meteor landing on your house) and you can be as dependent on streaming as you like, but as for myself, I'm going to continue to enjoy my collection of physical media, thank you very much.
@@MrPGC137 "So you were saying...?" I'm saying that if it has moving parts, you are dependent upon replacements parts being available so you can fix your hardware when it breaks. Maybe...MAYBE...3D printers will allow you to manufacture your own replacements when you need them. And you will need them. And then you'll also need the relevant expertise to repair your hardware yourself. And you'll just have to hope that your hardware doesn't destroy your precious physical copy when the player craps out. Y'know, like eating a VHS tape. Oh, sure, youcan make backup copies of your originals. Until you can't find blank tapes anymore. You can make copies of your DVDs/CDs...as long as you can find recordables to copy everything onto. Books don't have moving parts to go bad. Pretty much everything else does. And yes, they still make vinyl albums. But they don't make vinyl releases of everything. Your problem here is that you seem to think that 20 years is a long time. It isn't. "As for hardware not lasting forever, well...ever made a visit to an antique shop?" I am an archaeologist. So I know a thing or two about old tech. What lasts. What doesn't. And why. So sure, we still use stone tools. We still use ceramics. We still use copper, bronze and iron. But not as much as we used to. Less all the time, in fact. And not at all for some applications that used to be practically universal. So no, I'm not impressed by the revival of vinyl LPs among a small, well-heeled coterie of delusional audiophiles who think that the needle noise generated by a turntable is more "authentic" than a digital recording. The small vinyl record runs currently being produced only exist because there are just barely enough people willing to pay a big enough premium for them to justify their production. It's the last gasp of a dying medium. That's all.
I've been buying physical copies my whole life. The other day at my sister's place the internet was out and she couldn't play anything for her kids. Nothing to do with censorship but a great reason on its own.
Naughty language is prohibited on message boards devoted to illegal drug activity. The nazi's are already inside the heads controlling the language of the bleeding drug heads in their own conversations for Pete's sake.
Unfortunately, this is not new behavior. I remember as a kid wondering what happened to certain episodes of bugs bunny, and Tom and Jerry, and finding out later that they had been removed because some people were offended.😮
Wait, as a child you identified Bugs Bunny cartoons that had stopped rotation on syndicated television from a library of hundreds, going back until the 1930's? 🤔
I’m old enough to have watched the episode where Bugs Bunny (as an American pilot in WW2) hands an anvil to a Japanese pilot he’s just shot down. We laughed our asses off.
So I was watching Sin City on HBO Max and I noticed that they completely cut out the scene where benicio del Toro slaps Brittany Murphy's character. But earlier on in the movie when Marv is getting beat with a gun they show the whole scene. It's little things like this that I've been noticing more and more in the streaming services they are cutting a lot of scenes from these older movies and it's ruining them
I wonder if modern day English classes are at least partly to blame. I remember back like 10 12 years ago when I was in secondary school, and we'd be reading through whatever the assigned book was and then delving into every passage like we were trying to decipher hieroglyphics or something. This would often lead to inferring something where there probably never was something, deriving meaning from something that has no meaning, which led to people taking that mindset further. Maybe English classes were always like that, I ain't sure, maybe theyre way worse now, but thinking back to them now, I can't help but notice the connection a little when i look at modern cinema or social media haha
I remember when Looney Toons: Back in Action had Bugs having the conversation with Jenna Elfman about whether a bunny dressed in drag was offensive or not, and Bugs said "Lady, if you can't laugh at a rabbit in a dress, you don't have a sense of humor." We're at that point. Real talk, I've been collecting hard copies for years, never stopped, never subscribed to streaming because I would much rather own a hard copy than hope to see something again (I taped a lot of my Saturday morning cartoons and for some of them, that's the only hard copies I know of). Some shows have never even gotten hard copy releases, so it's just...we vaguely remember these shows they want us to forget. Surviving Jack has never seen a rerelease despite being almost ten years old, and the original CSI hasn't been on the TV since Spike TV became Paramount. And then hard copies versus streaming--it's far too easy for them to erase what they don't want us to see. One recent moment that still sticks in my mind--we were watching Die Hard with a Vengeance. The scene where McLane is wearing the billboard with the offensive word that would believably make people in Harlem want to kill him? On the TV it was edited to read "I hate everybody." Yes, that'll definitely anger people. Even earlier TV edits of "I hate black people" made more sense. It was stupid enough that I pulled out our DVD copy and we watched THAT one instead. And let's not forget that streaming is basically gatekeeping--aerial television, anyone who got an aerial could watch. Then it was cable and people had to pay services on top of getting the dish. Now streaming requires you to pay for multiple streaming services with no guarantee you'll get what you want. Compare and contrast a one-time purchase to add to your hard-copy library. They're trying to price people out of their services and then scold us for not subscribing to their idiocy. And remember--in cases where they WON'T release hard copies (like disney's new shows), piracy is always a solid option.
It's all narcissism. Anything that they don't like doesn't deserve to exist and no one else matters. They have no respect for art, artists or fans. Only their opinions and ideology matter.
I've been on the physical media train the whole time. When my sister in law first explained her Apple music to me (before video) I said, that means it belongs to them. I want to own my own media. Even if that means storage, collecting more slowly and carefully, and some lack of convenience. It also means that I own it. It can't easily be changed or taken away. I have always rejected the "games as a service" concept as well.
This is why I buy CDs and then rip them. I own the CD and the MP3s and can transfer them to any device for use - try doing that with songs bought from iTunes.
I am SO glad there's guys like yall still around who know their shit and how much shit's been poured down everyone's throats since after the mid 2010s. Keep doing what yall are doing. Love hearing the stupidity of Hollywoke, Dismal, etc. being reminded or exposed or being torn a new one. God Bless!
The hilarious thing is that whole idea of orcs being black; that started as a satirical article that was presented as a transcript of the DVD commentary between Noam Chomsky & Howard Zinn. It was literally a piss-take, and now the idea is taken completely seriously. This is why these people hate comedy. Because when they believe it’s real, it proves they’re idiots (which, btw, is why they really hate the word “idiot”).
You'd be surprised how few people have physical media, I have a huge collection including the Community D&D episode, Song of the South, several Speedy Gonzales shows and Blazing Saddles. Get um while you can people because they will eventually take it away.
The crying in the shower scene in Ace Ventura was a hilarious nod to the film The Crying Game. I loved that. You could NEVER make that joke now, nor could you make a film like The Crying Game now.
Totally agree with owning physical media. I have a massive collection of DVD's/Blurays/CD's etc... Now is the time to archive and protect our films/tv shows and music albums before they completely get updated for 'MODERN AUDIENCES'
I was wondering when piracy will be mentioned as a last resort to literally SAVE the old content from the crony and filthy hands of these self-righteous bastards. Thanks MauLer for bringing that up!
As hard as it is to believe, I think there are a certain number of people (particularly younger people) whom physical media doesn't appeal to. Who wants to spend the effort of getting off the sofa, pulling the DVD out, and putting it in the player when you could stay in the same place and just click your remote a couple times? Everything has moved in the direction of more convenient = better. That philosophy has some serious drawbacks, but a lot of people don't even recognize them because they've been trained to think this way. Need for comfort and convenience is killing us.
I bought myself a Blu-ray player a while ago...and I'm glad I didn't sell it! CeX has loads of used Blu-rays and DVDs for sale of all titles, including all the classic movies. I'll be making regular trips to my local store to build up my collection of discs.
Aliens has a content warning....WTAF. I have always seen that as a damn near perfect movie. I was glued to the screen. (Are there flaws, sure, but in a well paced, well written movie, flaws evaporate into entertainment.) Wow, that gets me.
Content warning has nothing to do with quality . and also do you mean the thing that just says strong language and violence . because thats mainly for parents
I have been trying for several months to find dvds from my childhood, and things I've never seen but heard are good. Just bought a VCR for $10 at a yard sale, and have been collecting VHS tapes that I want.
I've heard that orcs love fried chicken and watermelon and that's why they attacked Rohan. Theoden grew award-winning watermelon, man. He won the county fair like six years in a row.
Censorship is so frustrating because it tends to be done from the perspective of someone who gets offended on the behalf of others. Those people who get offended for someone else are always far too sensitive and too quick to judge. They are also the type of people to talk over the groups they claim to represent.
I'm pretty sure the tv series dead like me would be considered too much now despite being hilariously grim with some heartfelt moments. I wish someone would release it on blu ray. I was a kid the last time it happened so I missed out.
I'm a huge proponent of physical media where it seems that I am alone amongst all of my friends who have fully embraced streaming. I think streaming has enormous potential but I would always rather own a physical copy of something wherever possible. It used to be more because of wanting to have a movie or music "collection" more than anything else, but in recent years it's been about preservation as too many shows are all but erased from streaming services, having never got a physical release, or edited and changed/censored etc. There has even been cases where a digital version of something you bought can be removed from your account and there's next to nothing you can do about it. When Spielberg re-edited E.T. to remove the guns and such I was super thankful that I had an original version. Thankfully in that instance he realized he'd made a mistake and now insists that only his original vision for E.T. be the one that you can see but it could have so easily gone the other way. Physical media trumps corporate meddling and unnecessary censorship every day of the week. Support physical media people!
I've always been someone who's preferred physical media over digital and that goes for films, music, books, etc. Out of the 150+ films I own, only about 10 of them are digital and I'm always on the hunt for the physical version of the film with the film I remember seeing because I know there's always some edited version that takes certain scenes and lines of dialogue out.
I feel its much better to admit your mistakes than to try and hide them. Like when ryan ryenolds started a streaming service that only had one movie and its was one his loweset rated ever
Thanks very much gang. When I saw the header for this snippet, I knew I had to watch it. I and many others have been touting the value of purchasing the shows we do love on physical media for a few years now. All the points you've raised here (and many more) give full credence to the necessity. A necessity with respect to the fact that both censorship and even full elimination of "troublesome" films/episodes, is still getting much worse, not better. It's not a cheap hobby, by any means but especially with Blu-rays and 4K discs, which are getting more expensive each year. Starting to purchase now, to beat the future, is gonna be pricey but if one does it slowly, month by month, it's not only doable but recommended. My very best wishes for future collectors. Down the years, you'll be VERY happy with your preparation and foresight! :)
Perhaps this is a strange connection, but somehow, I have remembered Geogre Carlin - he came and passed away in the right time. It would never be possible for his shows to be aired these days. Based on what you have said, I have a feeling that I should start downloading his shows before they disappear. And also, it reminds me of saying: “Who rules the past, rules the future. Who rules the present, rules the past” or something like that and it is quite unseatling concidering what we are experiencing now.
Just purchased Song of the South last month. I put it on a shelf next to my last bottle of Aunt Jemima syrup and my last box of Uncle Ben's rice. On a similar note, The Land O Lakes girl was drawn by a Native American who designed her, her dress and the scene as an homage to his tribe and the sacred land. Now that little bit of remembrance is gone from future generations. How often do you think of the Native Americans on a daily basis? I did every time I saw the brand on store shelves.
Imagine getting mad that people would deny that the halocaust exists, while you erase "offensive"things from movies and tv shows. It's a part of history, this is the exact same thing china does.
But China doesn't come off as a hypocrite when they do it. You know the stuff you get there is censored and messed with, but on this side they sneak it in or out and hope nobody notices. Kids are going to be so confused after watching all those diverse historical populations that never existed in pieces of modern media "based on history" while simultaneously told racism did and meant so and so to people living in a certain time and place.
@@JPwendi Churchill wrote his memoirs ater WW2. Over a thousand pages. Never mentioned,. The word itself only got widely used in the 1960s. Bullets to the head are far more effective than fictional gas chambers. Prove me wrong.
Snow White! The Disney Queen! Cinderella...as lovely as her name...-Just missing Sweet elegant Aurora...-Completing the original trio. Glad I still buy DVDs/physical media.
'Snow White'? Isn't that the old name for the The Princess and the Seven? I'm so glad they digitally darkened the princess's skin, so I can watch it with my wife's daughter without exposing her to white supremacist beauty standards.
@@Noodles.Doodles @Noodles Doodles Indeed as well know Snow White being the fairest implies she is the whitest not her possessing inner and outer beauty. While the evil Queen only has outer. Zelgar wants to redefine what it means she clearly did not understand the lesson of the story.
Married... With children is one of my favorite shows and its sad you'll never see that kind of humor again. Also hold on to your blu rays and DVDs because streaming sucks
Absolutely correct! I have a large Blu-ray collection full of non-woke movies! So unless these people are going to show up at my front door and seize all of these films from my collection, they can't mess with my physical media. Get your favorite movies now before they get "updated for modern audiences." Of course, next they will probably make blu-rays illegal because they can't control what you are viewing!🙄
ive been saying this to my friends for like the last 15 years, the John Hughes film "Sixteen Candles" that me and my friends grew up with and loved so much. there are SO many things in that film that make it deeply offensive and problematic now. how long before i am not allowed to watch that film at all.
Been buying movies on DVD and blu ray (I know, 4k exists, I haven't made that leap yet bc of price), for the past few years. Have added a few hundred to my collection. It has been wonderful. I actually don't have streaming, believe it or not. Just cable. Many of the movies I have bought are never on TV bc it's not PC or its a little risqué for example. I've looked into it as well, a decent amount of the movies I have aren't even on streaming. It's good to have them. If I wanted access to all the movies I have right now I'd have to pay for basically all the streaming services. Fuck that. On top of that, the censorship! I like a lot of comedies that they seem to think isn't "acceptable" anymore. It's good to own physical media. They can't take it away from you!
I've been getting physical copies of movies I like for years now. I recently purchased "Blazing Saddles" and acquired a bootleg copy of "Song of the South". It's only a matter of time before the woke start erasing movies they don't like en masse from the streaming services. They've already started doing it piecemeal.
Getting something in physical media is a good idea, but beware: that ship has mostly sailed when it comes to games. You can still get discs, of course, but overwhelmingly, game discs made in the past 15 years are just coasters with a link to a download site.
I think the most egregious case of this is the newest MW2 game. The disc contains 72mb of data on it, a ridiculous waste of a Blu-ray Disc’s capability. Also, many games require internet connections. If the game studios decide to shut down their servers (which will happen eventually) the game is unplayable.
Physical may have some drawbacks but digital is still inferior to it. Yes its nice to not need to put a disk in and just play instantly for convenience. But digital is just that. Convenient. Physical may still require downloads or patches but its YOURS permanently. Digital games are not. I will support Physical games or movies till the day i die. I have absolutely no regrets for this. Corporations are continuing to push glorified rental services like gamepass etc. But thats just it, u dont own those games. Just a license to temporarily play them as long as u give them your money. These days u dont own your games. Corporations own YOU and evreything u play or watch. Physical media is the only way to fight this buisness practice. And ill forever support it.
Physical disks are permanent. Digital is not. As long as u have the disk you can continue to download your games. Think about all the Negatives you want but physical is still better. Always will be.
@@coreymckee4844 Perhaps I was not clear: the situation for games is _already worse than that._ Most physical game discs over the past 15 years _do not contain the game._ They contain the publisher's portal or client, which then downloads the game from their servers. When - not if - the company decides to stop supporting that game, and pulls it from their servers, your disc will only be useful as a coaster. Having a game in physical media is meaningless if the publisher controls the servers you have to access to install or play it. I agree that Gamepass and similar subscription services are glorified rentals, and I avoid them for exactly the reasons you describe. Always-online games, and ones that require you to log in to a central server to play them, are the devil for similar reasons. The problem is that more traditional game purchases aren't much better: even if we have a physical disc for a game, those mostly just point us to a server the publisher controls to actually download the game. It doesn't install from the disc itself. In that situation, we only "own" our copy of the game for as long as the company feels like running the server we download it from.
@@tba113 well good thing i only buy games with the base game on disk then. U dont think im aware of that? This has been going on for years. I always do proper research into the subject for each game i buy. Physical still is better.
Thanks for bringing up Ace Ventura. Just ordered it from amazon. I did the same for song of the south and gone with the wind, when I heard the wokesters mumbling about it. I figured jump on board now before such movies get cancelled.
Glad you mentioned Aliens 'warning'. That was the catalyst for me to buy all the old school Disney movies for my kids on DVD/Bluray. No censored or remake fecal matter in my house.
One good thing about Disney is for some of their old movies like Dumbo they added back on the original version (they had removed the Song of the Roustabouts and crow scene) with a content statement
