I think that might say more about their views on lawyers, rather then logic. So, maybe it was supposed to be a joke? (I dunno, almost ALL the jokes didn't land for me.. They just weren't funny)
It's made for the writers to live out their wet dreams of being both the biggest victim and super boss girl all at once. Never been hit on at a bar? Well here's how I think it would happen. Never caught the eye of that hunky, hunky, hunk? Well this is how I would have done it. Never had any real world responsibilities in a serious situation that impacts people other than yourself? This is how we imagine it would happen.
@@DRINKERSBALDHEAD 88 comments on this channel aye? Have you posted that same thing 88 times? You must be a sad little man with no life. Drinker is the most handsome Scotsmen I have ever seen, are you jealous? Can you not actually formulate any kind of argument whatsoever? Air heads like you always resort to insults when you don't know how to debate.
Baggage Claim made a great point: Jen Walters thinks focusing on meeting on her own social needs is less self-centered (or narcissistic), than literally saving the earth from extinction-level events.
Naaah. If the best work feminist writers can put forth is 'girls rule and boys drool', they need to work at a place more suited to their skills: bowling alley janitors.
And they even got that wrong. Women carry their shoes in hand is because they wear high heels and are difficult in the morning. Daredevil would never carry his boots that way.
The sad thing is nobody realizes that while in the comics, both Jen and Matt are lawyers in New York; Jen is a lawyer in LA in the show. So (drumroll) Matt wouldn't be able to just 'show up and handle a case' in LA because in America you have to be licensed in *each state* you practice law. Passing the bar is not a country-wide pass because every state has different laws.
Funnily enough, this was touched up on in "My Cousin Vinny". There, Vinny had to be brought in to represent his cousin accussed of armed robbery and a murder. Vinny had to talk with the judge that was handling the court case to allow him to be the representative, because he was out of his jurisdiction. The thing is, that's an actual thing - Pro Hac Vice Motion. It allows out-of-state attorneys to practice outside of their jurisdiction temporarily. I can bet you that if you were to bring that up to Jessica Gao or other writers, they wouldn't have a single clue about what the hell you're talking about. But if you were to talk with makers of My Cousin Vinny, I'd become apparent that they researched the stuff they were talking about.
@@bliczb8772 "Wait a minute. Did you say Jerry Gallo? Jerry Gallo's dead. Well, I'm not Jerry Gallo. I'm Jerry Callo. C-A-L-L-O." Edit: Funnily enough, as far as courtroom procedurals goes, a lot of legal experts give My Cousin Vinny high praise.
@@zwerrell While that is true, the lawyer must petition the court for permission to do it *before* he does it, rather than just being 'called in', as the show depicts. I would surmise that the imported counsel would need to justify why the client would need their services when there is no shortage of representation locally, but that's just my toxic male brain employing logic. -_-
And you know what’s funny? If they did that, it would be considered progressive. And yet “She-Hulk” is considered sexist. Whichever way the wind blows, they’ll find a way to spin it into THE MESSAGE
The sad thing is narcissists can’t take criticism or see themselves in the wrong, even tho everyone’s telling them their show sucks and they’re narcissists, in their eyes everyone else must just be sexist or jealous or something
Narcissists never take the blame. They’re always the victim in their eyes. Worse part is that it’s a personality disorder, which is clinically harder to treat from what I know.
@@mar.prz10 The treatment for narcies is as follows: a few silver bullets in vital places, a sharp wood through the heart, off with her head (yes, most current narcies are ladies or effeminates. Sue me), then leave the remains under the Sun for an entre week just to be sure. Narcies are also called "emotional vampires" for many good reasons.
The relationship between Hicks and Ripley is a perfect example of how to write a strong independent woman falling for a strong masculine guy, both learning from each other, both respecting each other both equals yet bringing individual parts to each other. How have writers missed this?
@@SiriuslyBlack7 nah cause a movie just came out that did strong women without making the men look weak and there wasn’t even a real romance. I’d check out the woman king.
And this was portrayed without a single kiss or cliched romantic scene with them. Just pure respect, admiration and the chemistry between the characters was enough. One of the reasons why the movie was so successful.
@@Black_Phillip There's nothing wrong with repeating things you agree with, especially if you can do it in a way that reaches a large audience and in a coherent, well-spoken manner.
I did the male version of "the walk of shame" I called it "the pride stride" It was after a wedding, had a wild night with a bridesmaid and was walking back to my car in a bedraggled suit and this guy saw me at a crosswalk, smiled, and we gave eachother thumbs up because he knew and I knew he knew and we were both happy
she-hulk is the villian lol ... she's lucid. She's attempts to kill a couple of dudes and then hulk tackles her stopping her from killing people. A few minutes later you learn she's completely lucid. A few minutes later you learn that she thinks she's better at controlling her anger than bruce. If shehulk is trying to be secretly satirical it's brilliant
@@brendaspence1824 And who caused Hulk to do that? Oh! Scarlet Witch aka the empowering female superhero loved by billions of fans who we are not supposed to hold her accountable.
Charlie Cox is gonna carry Born Again.. the series is already bloated with 18 episodes and under writers from the MCU you’re not gonna get any “Does evil exist?” Level of dialogue from the Netflix series
@@firstlast9846 But they already _did_ Born Again in the Netflix show. Disney are rebooting it already, and Disney is going to do... Disney. What's the point?
Rogerborg - given what Disney have done with Andor and how that series is so far great.. I’d say it’s down to the MCU and Fiegie.. cos Star Wars has had good series under Disney.. the MCU is still yet to have a great series.
She-Hulk: Men are such misogynists! Also She-Hulk: Let’s bone within 5 minutes of talking because one of these misogynists is a veritable Adonis! Finally She-Hulk: He’s so shallow and misogynistic for only finding my She-Hulk form attractive when I literally boned him just because he was attractive! Where have all the good men gone?!
I thought this earlier! It legit has a story arc in the most recent episode. Everything Bruce warned her about, she succumbed to, and her catalyst for change moment. Plus, the DD stuff was great. If every episode had a cameo where they fought crime and a court scene, that shit would've killed it. But these guys be complaining not seeing that was the plan the whole time. Make a shitty person and turn her not so shitty.
Apparently it works great. I don't know if it's funny or sad that people that have so little going on for them in their lives that they spend so much time on entertainment they don't like. People that have lives just stop watching.
Well they offer golden content to these reviewers, resulting in more views, more subscribers. And this is well deserved because you get more entertainment from the reviews than the actual shows.
The only people that seem to enjoy go through such incredible mental gymnastics, to the point of flat out lying about what occurred in other media. I just had someone say to me, on Twitter, "you can't call her a slut for sleeping with 4 different men because you haven't defined what a slut is." I said it's someone who sleeps around. Then "so there isn't a set number." They're completely insane.
I don't know how to word this properly but I've always had a real, genuine level of respect for how the drinker conveys his opinions. As in he tries to find the good in whatever it is that he's forced to watch by us, and more often than not he ends up totally gobsmacked by what he sees scriptwise and dialoguewise it must seem so elementary level considering his writing experience lol. It's always been hilarious to watch really.
Another great example of a hero who didn't start with Altruism is actually Spider-Man, he wanted to use his abilities to make money in wrestling matches and-like Tony-had to be shown the damages he can cause. In his case it was a thief he let go after being swindled, and because of that his uncle Ben was murdered. That's one of the reasons he has one of the strongest sense of who he is in the comics. He knows what happens if he isn't responsible with his powers. In fact, in the psychological profiles conducted by Maria Hill, she has stated that nobody has as strong an ingrained identity as Spider-Man, further demonstrating the extent of his willpower. His willpower is so strong that he has been considered as the greatest of all the Spider-Totems in the Multiverse by some of the other Spider-Mans n the multiverse.
It breaks my heart that there are so many mindless consoomers and disnoids that just don’t look at anything critically. Art will never get better if we keep giving mediocrity a pass.
@@O1OO1O1 I mean the unfettered capitalism could be reigned in some, but yeah people are to blame. Though I suspect the social conditioning is a big factor.
My husband and I gave the show a chance. I was really hoping for some solid character development and going in the direction of Jen realizing how self absorbed and selfish she is and working to change. But the show seems to embrace that as a good thing and I hate it. It was a huge disappointment to see them go the direction they did.
When I see this episode, I imagine the writers and directors at a sleep over telling each other crush stories. Then one of them says something like “I had a dream once that I made out with daredevil” and thats how they got the script.
I hadn't seen any episodes of she Hulk before this one, but decided to watch it anyways just because of my boy Matt Murdock. Charlie Cox absolutely stole every scene he was in and was an infinitely more likeable and charismatic character than anyone else in the episode. I barely managed to finish the episode after he left because every other character was just insufferable Also there was a definite downgrade in the quality of the fight scenes for daredevil with an over-reliance on CGI compared to the Netflix Daredevil, where every fight scene felt incredibly grounded and real, even when he was fighting multiple ninjas at once
Exactly right. I myself have seen She-Hulk before and liked exactly nothing about it, no characters were good. And Charlie was above and beyond everything they have ever done. And I also agree about the CGI stuff. Just to see him throw a guy against the wall made him seem super-human. Whereas on his show it was far more realistic. Does not bode well for his show.
I immediately subbed to Baggage Claim. She had a clear and thoughtful take on all of this. I enjoyed her voice, too, as I tend to listen to things like this. Will I always agree with her? Probably not, but I live in the real world and not on Twitter.
*People keep saying* , “Daredevil, made jokes in the Netflix series too, plus he won at the end of his series, what reason would he have to be angry and brooding?” But they miss the point that Matt Murdock makes jokes and not Daredevil in the middle of fights.. and it’s literally in the comics that he’s always angry “cos it keeps us alive” he says to himself at one point.. some of these people don’t pay attention
I’m more surprised that people want *ANOTHER* MCU superhero who cracks bad jokes mid fight and knocks everyone out with a single punch.. like will the stans ever actually tire of the same thing that they’ve been fed for 15 years?
Millennial woke incompetence gets their claws on the cash. Quite how this got green lit - I mean considering how much money is spent, the time and effort surely they MUST of run it past normal people ?? Or did they bypass that because they knew everyone would hate it ? Christ alive
Tony Stark, Johnny Cage, Booster Gold---those are characters I'd ironically describe as "Selfless Narcissists." They're totally self-absorbed and definetally in it for the fanbase but they're still written with nuance so that we, the audience, know that they're good people who are truly heroes under the superficial. They're a**holes with hearts of gold! Unfortunately, She-Hulk (the show) doesn't understand that balance.
@@rajyavardhansingh4491 True enough, it’s just as a guest I appreciate her measured nature. I enjoy Nerdrotic’s takes for the most part but his intensity over the subject is just a bit much for my taste.
@@BlookbugIV It showed up recommended one day at random it seemed. I wasn't even regularly watching these kinds of critique channels. Glad I came across her though.
@@pedrovargas2181 Eh, I don't take her as boring. More in depth. And it seems like she's still trying to find her pace. All my current favorites went through that as well.
In the comic Bruce saves Jennifer’s life and she knows it and appreciates it That’s one thing that makes that comic so compelling Can’t do that in woke Hollywood
I grew up watching marvel in the 90s on fox kids. Those shows rocked and she hulk then was sexy, funny ,deep voiced and a hero who wanted to save lives!
As much as I want Jon Bernthal’s Punisher back, I’m absolutely horrified that they would neuter him. And then make fun of his dead family. Season 1 was good, the 2nd was limited because they already knew they couldn’t make more. I just want the hate-screaming and doomslayer vibes back…
After all this you still want him back in the MCU? Come on man, fuck no. They need to stay away from the Punisher and every other Netflix character. Disney is not gonna provide that.
Idk man, Werewolf by Night was fuckin solid. They didnt completely shy away from the gore so fingers crossed for Blade, Deadpool, Ghostrider and Punisher getting their R ratings.
@@ThelaziaCafe Violence and gore doesn’t equal good writing. Not that I don’t agree that it needs to be R rated to keep consistency with the dark nature of the character, but you can’t have one without the other. It being rated R alone is only one step of the equation, and I doubt Disney could deliver in the second step (or at least anywhere near the Netflix Punisher series).
Leave punisher alone until woke Hollywood goes away knowing them they'll give him rubber bullets then give villans speeches and let them go promising to never do it again because Disney
Car company to designers... We are gonna make a huge 8 cylinder pick up truck with huuuge wheels, monster exhausts, but its gonna be painted pink with daffodils & sunflowers , also make sure glitter bursts out of exhaust every time you rev it hard. Designers: okaaaay, but whos this aimed at? Car Company: just do it
I had an experience with a lawyer who broke the law, behaved unethically, repeatedly defied court orders, and actively worked to run her bills up as high as possible. She has multiple rewards and was in the process of receiving one for ethical behaviour while we were in court dealing with her shenanigans.
To be fair, Tony is not a real narcissist, he showed that with having loving healthy relationships, self sacrifice and his desire to to things for a greater good. He has narcissistic personality traits and a superiority complex but has even shown self doubt, and vulnerability at times.
He starts off as one was the point… which is kind of impossible to just switch off if you really genuinely are one but he at least has lived his life like one up until you know when in the first movie. Then he tries to kind of make up for his mistakes while still holding onto some of his arrogance. It’s not perfect but for a comic book story it is light years more character growth in anything your getting outta Disney period let alone she hulk. I would never trust Disney to do it but my favorite Iron Man story from the comic books has always been the mask in the iron man when he’s an alcoholic and really struggles with it. If they could make that a good story in 70s and 80s comics still largely geared towards teenagers they should’ve been able to pull it off somewhere in Tony’s run. Now I wouldn’t want them touching it with a ten foot pole but just like how she hulk got a little better with daredevil in the show cause someone stepped in and said okay we are taking this serious and you aren’t just shitting on this character cause he’s a superhero. They could get a team that really cares and make that great iron man story. It would be a great way to bring iron man back too. It doesn’t have to connect with anything. Just make it a time from his past. I have a feeling that Robert Downey Jr would be the perfect person to play addict Iron Man too. Lol obviously I’m not that into the MCU even before phase bore because they take away from the comics in my eyes and have shifted the comic book industry so vastly and so quickly that there isn’t even a single comic I buy anymore after being a weekly 30 year collector so I don’t know the ins and outs of the MCU. But in end game isn’t he just sitting around depressed for like five years? Or is he stuck in a spaceship or honestly I don’t remember. But anyways you could go back to that time period and you have five years to work with to tell this story in a new way for the MCU. And ya I wouldn’t even go see it so Nevermind. The MCU is just dead
@@michaelbrand1173 Tony in the comics and mcu actually hated and doubted himself, has shown great empathy, has relinquished power, and does not exaggerate his achievements.
The term narcissist is thrown a lot on social media, but anyone who has had a relationship with a real narcissist knows the difference is massive. And it is a glittering generality that people like to throw around to manipulate.
@@JeremyDahl Maybe some people are conflating narcissism with misandry, but keep in mind we're talking about Hollywood, and if you think about the type of people who would aspire to go there and do what these people are doing, it would make sense that they would have a higher percentage of narcissists.
I love how she constantly goes to her boss to get out of working with her client, with good reason in some cases but in others not really at all. He is always like shut up and stop complaining, which is suppose to be a bad thing but that is his job to make these decisions for the company.
Baggage Claim has been fantastic in both her appearances. Drinker, I respect your willingness to work with others and explore their take on things. This is why the Fellowship is my go-to entertainment crew.
Elements of the 'Walk of Shame' involve having poor or smeared make-up, a party dress that is now crumpled and not fresh, often going barefoot due to being hungover and having only high heels, as well as a somewhat public declaration of sex which can make a woman's life hard. Bystanders see a somewhat ridiculous, clumsy, embarrassed figure. Literally none of that applies to men. It's like the female writers just wanted to shame a man without thinking a bit about the context.
0:55 "The new wave of feminism where to be female you have to be male, but constantly put men down while you do it" Holy shit, that was so well articulated :O Spot on!!
I am 100% convinced, She-Hulk was made ONLY for the showrunners. It was their chance to push their political agenda, and they decided to run with it. I make movie/show reviews as well. I did one on She-Hulk and recently uploaded a Short. I would love to hear your thoughts! As always, great content Critical Drinker and cheers to everyone here! You have a great fan base.
@@apk4381 Self promotion in comments is low? I’m sorry for the late reply, I was wiping away my tears, because I care deeply about what you have to say. I wonder, did you feel proud after your comment? Do you feel you are a better person? Do you feel like you accomplished something today? Are you able to sleep at night now? 😂
I despite 'shorts'. No seek bar implies that my spare time is simply here to be squandered.. In general I feel vertical vids are for TikTok kids and people who don't understand basic production.. stick to the 16:9 presentation. It'll be back and HARD before long! Edit: Ah crap, YT decided a couple of vids are 'shorts'.. my fault for not turning the phone 90 degrees..
I have to say, Charlie Cox was excellent in his appearance and when he was alongside She-Hulk, they had a believable friendly chemistry. I didn't realise he could pull humor off so well, but I genuinely laughed a few times.
She hulk is the Disney + equivalent of a recording artist who spits out an album at break neck speed in order to fulfill a contract so they can go elsewhere
Stop simpin.women are o the same whichever side of the pool they are.most likely she is one of those “I’m not like other girls” who just knows how to get clicks and views.just another form of manipulation Wake up bro
@@Gintoki_Madao nah Stay single,get a fuck buddy,save your money,work out,and avoid shit like that.unfortunately men can be idiots still faking for girls shit.sad really
Long post: I really liked the courtroom scenes. I thought Matt and Jen actually played off each other quite well and it helped me warm more to Jen's character. Credit where credit's due, they nailed those elements. But I gotta be honest... once he put on the costume, I was far less happy. This is the same character who sat in a confession box, begging forgiveness for the things he was about to do with his fists, bones he was going to break, the people he was going to hurt, because of wrongs he couldn't right in a courtroom. A man who wrestled with his conscience for a whole season over whether it was right or wrong to kill the Kingpin to stop his reign of terror. A man fully aware of the pain and hurt he causes when he beats people bloody. A man who hated what he had to do, but did it anyway. That was Daredevil. To see the same character and actor, now cracking-wise while he's cracking skulls, making jokes and smiling his way through an (admittedly fun) warehouse siege, and spout one-liners like "That's why I love legal dramas!" broke my heart a little. Now... he enjoys it. Now it's fun. Now, he flirts while smashing people in the face. He gets deafened and unmasked in the middle of a street, is completely vulnerable, and just shrugs it off and tells Jen all about his powers. Now, he's a bit of a goofy Daredevil. When he held his ground in court and insisted Jen hadn't considered that the client list she was after would put heroes lives in danger, and what they do and their anonymity while they do it is a matter of life or death, I cheered. Yes. That's Matt Murdock. That felt real and grounded and it made sense. And her reaction to it made sense. And then the action scenes happen. Now, the things Matt Murdock does are like any other quippy MCU action set-piece. And I feel like that's a little bit of a waste. It broke my heart.
I like how they are so unaware of their own writing they didn't realize that making the only man that would date shulk, a blind man, it doesn't really empower her in anyway.
Let's assume that the book she had when speaking with Leap Frog, in her office, was the manual that LF received. HOW THE HELL did Jen miss the part about what kind of fuel to put into the suit before going to trial?
Honestly? Women never have to read instructions/actually operate actual machines larger than a chip reader... Apparently. Even if they're like 40, have gone through a supposedly meaningful education, are so "powerful" that they're still single, and have "social skills" that got them hired by Disney - despite a level of incompetence that hasn't been seen since some jackass banged a monkey with actual aids.
If self insert was a series, it'd be she hulk. I'm glad it's tanking, but you have to feel sorry for the technicians on the show; the electricians, the carpenters, the makeup artists, the caterers and so on. Real people. But I won't shed a tear for the dreadful writers, script editors or producers.
The VFX artidts have it worse, thise guys are getting exploited to the tenth degree... All just for a bunch of misersble woman can feel good, on the horrible choices they made in their lives.
The first Wonder Woman is still the best modern interpretation of a female superhero. She's strong to the point of being nearly invulnerable, but she's unfailingly kind to others, even those who underestimate her and try to push her aside, or that are simply jaded. People with genuine strength don't need to convince other people they're strong; they just carry on with self-confidence. And when she fights, it's not because she wants to kill or is attacking in anger, she defends people weaker than herself, without even putting them down. she fights to stop war. That's empowering without being emasculating, or trying to mimic men. That's different without being hostile or self-righteous.
One of my best friends really likes the show. He says it's just dumb fun and that he loves it. I really can't my mind around it, but it seems that there are some people who like this show. I just don't understand praising bad writing and dumb fun, anyone can do that.
to the writers, female empowerment just means reversal of roles and the women can do whatever they want to the men so that the men can "feel what they felt"
She-Hulk: Attorney At Law’s penultimate episode is the one we’ve all been waiting for and then some. Charlie Cox’s return as Daredevil surpasses expectations, and he and Tatiana Maslany have undeniable chemistry. In the span of 30 minutes, this entry honors both of them and pushes forward its overall plot in unexpected and devastating ways. Tack on some welcome action and it’s easily She-Hulk’s best installment yet.
When people began to value surface political ideologies over anything else... We are basically seeing the modern version of the "Christian Moms" all over again.
Imagine if it was a pg-13 Deadpool, with the fourth wall breaking, tongue-in-cheek making fun of the genre but with love and respect for the genre. I feel bad for Tatiana. She can only work with the scripts that are given to her.
It's funny how She-Hulk has become your own personal Iron Throne, Drinker. I hope one day you succeed, like Drogon, in giving it the blasting it deserves.
The narcissism thing could actually work if were intentional and they played into it, ending in her actually developing and becoming a better person. But that clearly doesn't seem to be the idea. It's all without an ounce of self-awareness.
I literally only laughed twice this whole season, and that was her dating profile I want a man with a strong back and a sturdy bed lol. But for a comedy one or two laughs is unacceptable.the second laugh was the man who can’t die when all of his ex wives were nagging him and he jumped out of the window.
Oh, love the collab with Baggage Claim, I practically became familiar with both of your channels at the same time, so it's great to be able to see you working together
My attempt for making She-Hulk into a better show: 1) After getting the new powers, she starts a new life and wants a new job 2) Somehow she realises that she wants to do something physical, but also good for society 3) New profession: construction worker 4) she works so hard, that she easily comes on top of her bew workplace and gets respected by everyone who works with her (in a male dominated environment) - soon all constructionworker see that she is the real deal with her strength and passion 5) given to her superpowers, she becomes the most capable and efficient construction worker the world has ever seen 6) she is capable of working without creating any pollution- therefore is absolutely climate friendly and is faster than most machines 7) soon she overtakes the construction company, which is happily given to her by the owner, because he respects her efficiency, business philosophy and knows that it's better in her hands. He becomes her right hand, who handles parts of the administration and helps her with his experience in this business 8) her business philosophy is to build affordable homes for people in need, because her superpowers make it possible to reduce production/construction cost to a bare minimum 9) even when she works now at the upper management, she doesn't consider herself too good for helping at the construction 10) she's mixing concrete with her own strength, all by herself without the use of any electricity 11) soon, she starts taking over the market as the strongest competitor 12) this is where the real problems begin 13) other construction companies want her gone 14) this is where she REALLY has to prove herself This is way more liberal and fleshed out than the shitshow we have to experience now.
Funny part to me is, the most logical outcome would be the other construction companies realizing that she's not actually a threat to them (personally) because she simply lacks the power to impact the market sufficiently to matter on the scales they operate at. Having some suit who represents the 'corrupt corporations' explain to her that no, they aren't behind the attacks on her and her company because they ran the numbers and don't need to care. So what if she produces cheap housing locally? Or even on the state level? They're multinational companies and this is driving their smaller local competitors out of business without meaningful impact on their bottom line. Heck, make it clear the corrupt corpos think she's doing it to have a natural (small scale) monopoly and they are trying to express to her that they're fine with that. Heck, imagine how awkward it would be for her to be congratulated on 'a cracking good business venture' by corporate fat cats. Then you can go where you like with it, but a realistic acknowledgement that she's not gonna get much notice from the big multi-national/national level companies would be fitting. It would also let you focus in on whatever the local business corpos were actually behind those efforts to remove her organically.
@@Sorain1 this is actually awesome and a good foundation for her arc. It really pisses me of, how easy it would have been to make this character into a real strong female, that uses her strength to be a force for good without being an insufferable and inconsistent cunt. One who creates, not one who destroys.
