There was a time when people would flock to see "The new Arnold Schwarzenegger movie" or "the new Will Smith movie." That time has passed. But what happens in a post-movie star world?
I don't understand how The Rock thinks fans are really invested in his acting abilities when all he does is just making forgettable mediocre movies. Hell, the live action Moana that he's working on ain't gonna be different than any movie that he produced. I mean he's charismatic and likeable of course but for the most part, he's just extremely overrated
It's not sad at all the death of the movie star means it will bring down the egos of the actors who dare to charge 20 mill per movie and will give more chances for up & coming actors who are starving for better roles.
Examples there are like Leo Dicaprio who is only working with Scorsese because the guy is willing to pay him his 20 mill standard salary for a one movie.
I saw an interview with him the other day, they asked a question about upcoming projects…the first thing he said was about if the fans wanted it, what the fans wanted and how he would try to give the fans a movie they asked for. It seems like such a simple premise…but it’s unfortunately seems to be the exception these days, not the rule!
Also, if I remember correctly: Tom Cruise's rant was entirely justified. People were breaking the COVID protocols at a time when it was still a fairly nasty variant. And though it probably wouldn't have harmed anyone on the set, an outbreak could've got the production shut down for weeks.
Henry Cavil will do what ever it takes to have the physicality required for a role, he is a great actor and by all accounts he is about as sane and kind as a person in narcissistic Hollywood can be yet he gets buried. Yet somehow we can’t get rid of Ezra Miller who is an abusive monster. That says all we need to know about Hollywood.
I think he has intelligence, charm and a good look to be a movie star. Especially when he comes across as such a nice guy, it's hard not to like him. Both girls and guys like him which gives him a broad appeal.
@@antmax Yeah he’s just a likeable guy all around. Girls like him because of his charm and good looks, and guys like him because he likes the same kind of nerdy shit we like, he’s one of us.
Says all we need to know about the world. Instead of everyone boycotting shit films, Ezra Miller, and Hollywood we shill out and let great dudes like Cavill get destroyed. We almost did it to Depp. People forget what unity can do. Just a little while ago an entire community formed as one to make an industry remake Justice League. Now everyone’s confused why Ezra Miller can’t disappear already but Henry is fighting to stay relevant.
'Movie Stars' weren't seen as real people, they were brands. Will Smith was Action/comedy, Arnold Schwarzenegger was Action, Tim Allen was comedy, Humphry Bogart was 'Drama'. It was simple and people flocked to them because they knew what type of movie they were going to get. These days it is the total opposite. Actors are exposed now and their personal lives bleed into the movies and the advertising surrounding the movies. The only reason Tom Cruise is still a star is because he follows that formula. He is Action and that's his brand.
Lol Tim Allen? For comedy? TA was a decent comedy actor, but how on earth is he your example for comedy, over Jim Carrey, Robin Williams, Mike Myers???
Yeah this is a great point. I think this is very well encapsulated with what Stallone was trying to achieve with the Expendables movies. He wasn't just hiring a bunch of actors, he was combining the collective nostalgia and formula of hundreds of action movies.
Even for guys who did different genres like Clint Eastwood, he still never went too far outside the tough guy persona to where you couldnt see him that wayt anymore.
Keanu Reeves has often lowered his salary on a film to enable another actor he liked to be given a role. He's so authentic and generous to people he respects. No big ego, no selfishness, just a hardworking actor.
Tarantino: "The movie star is dead". Scorcese: "Cinema is dead." (My paraphrasing). They're both right but Scorcese more so. Without good *film* how can you have a good *film star?*
Apparently Shazam and Black Adam were going to be in the movie together but due to Dwayne Johnson's massive ridiculous ego, he wants Black Adam to have his own movie first eventhough that's not really necessary
Tom Cruise truly is the last of a dying breed. He still really cares about movies and the process of making them, and he really cares what the audience thinks of his movies. And he always tries to bring a certain level of authenticity to the films he makes. Like, if it can be done practically instead of using CGI, he’s gonna try to do it. I really respect that kind of dedication to your craft. He’s always scaling skyscrapers, jumping off cliffs, and jumping out of planes just to get that perfect shot. He’s not out to make any personal statements or win any awards with his films, he just wants to make enjoyable movies that are fun for people to watch. The Last Samurai is still one of my favorite movies ever made. And Cruise has shown that he possesses the acting chops to be successful in any genre. He was hilarious in Tropic Thunder, he was able to hold his own dramatically with Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men, and he’s obviously been very successful with action films like Top Gun and Mission Impossible, as that genre is his bread and butter. He’s the quintessential movie star. And Tom Cruise doesn’t just shit out movies to add something else to his catalog. He’s at the stage of his career now that if he works on a film, it’s usually something special that caught his eye or something he cares about. You don’t see many actors like him anymore, most of them are too concerned with themselves instead of the quality of the overall product.
And like I just read about another movie star who was really really passionate about his films - Edward Norton. He was so passionate that he sort of tried to take over the entire film project and it always resulted in a better movie so he was not exactly destroying the movie with his antics. Unfortunately, that gave him the reputation of someone who is "hard to work with" and I've stopped seeing him in big roles for a long time. Still, remember when he got 3 Oscar nominees and he was considered one of the best actors of his generation. His uncredit role in Kingdoms of Heaven as King Baldwin IV was so charismatic, I literally forgot about Orlando Bloom's main character. We can't even see Edward's face the entire time, it was purely body language and voice-acting but somehow he was way more charismatic than Orlando. There is a difference between a talented actor and a talentless actor.
They say you should never meet your heroes, I say seeing their vapid opinions on social media is even worse. RIP to the movie star, you should have kept your mouth shut
Couldn’t agree more, drinker made a video a while back at how movie stars and most if not all celebrities felt like this untouchable & unknowable group of people, the only things you’d hear or learn about them was through interviews and movies they’re in or whatever the case may be, suddenly we know literally everything about celebrities right down to what they had for breakfast and what their opinion on transgender issues are, it’s tiring and it’s boring being lectured at by out of touch elitists, I miss the days of the out of reach celebrities who kept their mouths shut and just did movies or music or whatever their thing was, they’re all activists & “social media” influencers now who think we care what they have to say about real world issues.
@@chasehedges6775 everyone knew they was pieces of shit on some level but at least it wasn’t front and centre all the time & paraded proudly how dumb and out of touch they are, some of them used to be really cringe at award shows back in the day trying to virtue signal & that’s all they seem to do now on top of doing it online, interviews, Twitter etc etc
CRUISE is the only Actor that has worked with Coppolla, Kubrick, Scorsese & Spielberg He became the biggest movie star in the world by doing pure Dramas .. especially the first 20 years of his Career He's the GOAT of GOATS
I often say the same thing about Adam driver, he could easily be one of the greatest actors of all time, he’s sadly just been born into the wrong generation of Hollywood where majority of scripts are trash & directors are activists.
Cavill is constantly sabotaged by the Rock. It's a well-known thing. The Rock wanted Bond, got told flat out no, then heard that Cavill was in the running for a bit, and did everything he could to sabotage Cavill over that and many other roles. The Rock sabotages a lot of people he considers "competition". He's well-known for it.
Drinker nailed it, 100%. It’s the lack of care for the final product. The apathy for the movie making experience is carrying over into the performances of the actors. They show very little emotion and just seem to be going through the motions of acting instead of really getting in touch with their character and what the character is going through. It’s like Kristen Stewart in Twilight, as in a plank of wood could have emoted better than her. Because the number one rule of movies that the “modern movie-makers” have seem to have forgotten, if the characters don’t care about what they’re going through, why should we? We were there and experiencing terror with the mom in the Shining. Our hearts were ripped out for the death of Artax in the Neverending Story. We felt every brutal second of the execution of John Coffee in the Green Mile. Because we had become invested. Our hearts were carefully led to the place the director wanted it to go because we knew we were not alone. Our pain, our joy, our sorrow was being shared by the other characters. We knew this because we saw it. We became comfortable enough to allow ourselves to feel.
@@chasehedges6775 That may be the case now, but try to go back and rewatch those films now that the craze has died down. They are almost completely unwatchable. It’s almost like a masterclass in how not to act that should be viewed in every acting school to show how you don’t act in a movie.
Brendan Fraser did an incredible job in Gods and Monsters, Crash, and Extraordinary Measures, but most people haven't watched those movies, or don't even know about them. One of the issues is most people only remember him for genre films and don't realize he has done roles beyond those. I think it's why people are so shocked when they saw him in The Whale--they had no idea it was in him, and it always has been.
The Rock is crumbling because of his mountain-level ego and narcissistic view of priding himself to be the pigeonholed Big Tough Guy who never loses and can never accept any roles that don't let him do that. A one trick pony.
The Rock is at an interesting point in his career as an actor. His rise as an A-list megastar in the 2010s really cemented his "brand" as well as his on screen persona. However, he doesn't really have a defining role as an actor. As Drinker pointed out he kinda just plays The Rock in every movie. Arnold is the Terminator, but he's also had a string of iconic and influential movies like Predator, Total Recall, and hell even True Lies. Stallone has Rocky and Rambo but has also had times in his career where he showed that he is an extremely capable actor. He's an academy award nominee and the first Rocky won Best Picture. Bruce Willis is John McClane but has starred in alot of big influential films like Arnold (Pulp Fiction, 12 Monkeys) while also showing he's a capable actor (Sixth Sense). Keanu for all the flak he's gotten for his percieved acting limitations has so many iconic roles and movies that have kept him working into his late 50s. Bill and Ted, Point Break, Speed, the Matrix films, and of course, John Wick. The Rock is The Rock for all that's worth. And if he wants the 2020s and beyond to be as lucrative as the previous decade, he needs to start taking more risks as an actor. He doesn't have to completely shy away from his generically charming action star schtick. But he does have to show that he's capable of more than just wrecking dudes and smiling on screen. He has to show that he has range and is willing to compromise his invincible onscreen persona for roles that will take him out his comfort zone. Oscar bait films are not the answer, but I think we would all like to see him do something that requires him to do more than just flex his muscles and throw out cheesy jokes. It's getting stale and I hope he realizes it before it's too late
@@9mmsleepingpill851 let's not forget kindergarten cop. Schwarzenegger is great working with kids, not just adults. That was a great mix of action and comedy.
@@JudithYD Jingle All The Way as well. He's also got that Christmas movie on his resume. No doubt the rock will go down that route (if he hasnt done so already).
*Dwayne Johnson’s failed takeover at DC leads him back to Fast and Furious* and already he’s got his own spin off movie in that franchise coming out… it’s literally all about him.
My problem with The Rock is he plays the same character in EVERY movie. He's always the comedy goofy character that makes jokes to break tension and it's usually in some crazy over the top action film. He desperately needs a movie where he's serious 100% through it AND has a good plot.
It's sad really. Hobbs was the best addition to the Fast and Furious franchise in Fast Five (I think Fast Five is still the best one because of The Rock really). After Furious 7, he's just The Rock with Superman ability, not really Hobbs that was at best in Fast Five
@@15Candles Yeah he was actually pretty good in Fast Five. He was intimidating and had a commanding presence on screen. He was the best part of that movie in my opinion. Fast Five was the last Fast and Furious movie I enjoyed from start to finish. After that they started getting ridiculous.
@@m.c.martin Black Adam was really the closest we could get for The Rock as a villain. There are times where he's very impressive as the character but there also other times where he's just a watered down
Jenna Ortega did the same and got brutalized as well, and she's in her early 20s. And she was fucking right about everything she said about Wednesday's head-in-ass-script
Henry Cavil will be the lead in a remake of The Expendables 30 years from now. Why? Because his "brand" is going to be viewed as toxic and Hollywood is going to start to refuse to work with him. And yeah, if Tom Cruise is still alive 30 years from now, he will be in that movie too. Hell, that movie would like be a "who's who" of Marvel / DC male superhero stars of the 2010s.
Jeremy called The Rock a 'manufactured movie star,' but that wasn't always a bad thing. You can say a lot of things about the 30s, 40s and 50's Studio system, but they knew exactly how to manufacture stars. But it was because the people they chose had charisma, screen presence and could actually act.
I'd take it one step further. They knew how to perform. Actors had to act, sing, and dance. Those skills might not be in every production, but you had to have a versatile skill set to get the lead roles in major projects. And if you were on production, odds are you were in dance, sing, or acting classes honing your skills even more.
Drinker is 100% right i love old movies like 1930s -2005 , movie stars used to make a horrible low budget set and silly writing into classics just by being there!
Many years ago an actor was doing an interview and was asked how he managed to get parts in so many projects. His answer was that when he needed to work, he would go hang out at the studio's cafeteria. If somebody saw him hanging around odds were good that he would be approached to do a few days of shooting for a minor role in a movie and get another pay check. That is how Hollywood worked back in the 1940s - 1960s. If you see an old WW2 movie and some big stars had some minor roles, you can pretty much be assured their agent didn't make phone calls. They just hung out in the cafeteria and they were approached to do a minor gig role.
I agree with Drinker, Alan Ritchson should be a big star. He was hilarious in Blue Mountain State, and what I saw of Reacher he acquitted himself very well. And he's got presence. Not just his imposing physique, but his personality and natural charisma.
@Anoneemus Noename, next season is based off a different book, haven’t read them but I expect there’s gonna be a few changes in cast including Neagley but could be wrong
Rocks fellow wrestling friend, Dave Batista. Just check his work , he really tries to find serious filmmakers and perform role/turn into character. I got loads of respect for him because of that. His Blade Runner 2049 part is better than anything Rock did
Tom Cruise made movies like collateral, Interview with a Vampire, Tropic Thunder and A Few Good Men he's really an actor first and you don't see that much anymore
Gotta love someone like Keanu Reeves. He puts everything in his performance and actually contributed his money to make his movies better and to get extra actors into movies he makes. Sure, he had 3 movie franchises that he's going to be remembered for but you see in his work and what he does behind the scenes that he's actually interested in making some good movies that draw audiences.
Imagine that Ian McKellen was sitting alone in a green-room while filming The Hobbit and the dude started crying while murmuring "This is not why I became an actor." It just shows there are still actors who care for their craft.
The Rock during the Attitude Era was a pretty great villain. I remember being excited to see him in The Rundown. Now, seeing "Johnny Dicklez and the Nutless Squirrel starring the Rock" is almost a meme at this point....
@Dirty Jack Burgundy I loved those movies too! I haven't seen him in anything since his role in the Fast franchise. To be fair tho, I just don't watch a lot of movies anymore. Waste of time. Instead I have video games, books (I have Kindle Unlimited and have saved my hubby THOUSANDS lol) and craft hobbies (kids are about all grown and leaving home, so I have lots of free time. Learning to can veggies is my next endeavor) Movies simply aren't worth the time investment anymore, especially since they don't ENTERTAIN, which is their purpose.
Henry Cavill is someone I always remember from The Man from UNCLE. His passion for The Witcher made him a pariah within Hollywood because god forbid he cares about what he is making. Hopefully, with Warhammer, Henry Cavill can show how he deserves to be a movie star.
I love that movie too! He was great! I'm a Henry fan but I don't watch a movie simply because he's in it (the vapid Enola Holmes movies, for example) but he's done one with Bruce Willis (can't remember the name) and another where he's a cop going after a serial killer (again, blanking on the name, tho Nathan Fillion had a cameo in it).
@@thefallenfaith1986 Yeah, an actor who demands the reworking of his character in someone else’s movie because he needs to be the star of any show … doesn’t sound like someone “people love working with”! 😂
Who you villain is or isn't doesn't ruin a film or make it worse. What ruined shazam was its generic, disposable plot, lack of effort to progress the characters, and the fact its was at tail end of a now ending era of the movies. Dwayne is a great guy but he's not perfect. He has in recent times been a petty control freak.
@@thefallenfaith1986That's dumb. Whether he has a friendly reputation or not is pretty basic, no simping required. I'm not really a fan of his movies but... There's no stories about him tipping the valet $0 or whatever, or screaming at staff, whatever the usual Hollywood crap. That type of stuff spreads quickly.
That's my favorite Rock movie. Tons of action and comedy with some crazy creative choices, i.e., acrobatic jungle men teaming up on The Rock, dual-wielded pump-action shotguns, and henchmen with bullwhips.
Im surprised the panel didn't discuss leo di capreo. He started out as a teen heart throb but he avoided being type cast, picked his scripts well, took on difficult roles, won an Oscar and his name is a draw.
The days of macho film making are over. Think Lawrence of Arabia or Apocalypse Now. Christ, Martin Sheen had a heart attack in the middle of the jungle, recovered and went back to finish the movie. Just imagine what the Ride of the Valkyries scene would look like today. CGI rubbish, that was shot over 40 years ago. Having said that Tom Cruise is keeping the spirit alive.
I can understand the need of therapist on set. What I can't figure out for the life of me is the need of one for a fight scene where you are swinging a larp sword against a greenscreen.
Another great example of an intense performance is Noomi Rapace as Lisbeth Salander in Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Each film is very close to the books, and to follow her story, character arc up to the court case in the final film had me totally sold on her performance.
If you wanna see Noomi's range, watch her in _What Happened to Monday?_ She plays seven different characters, and they're all unique. I had a ton of fun watching that movie.
The modern Era of the 2020s have killed the movie star. Entertainment, with a few exception of actual good films and shows that exist to entertain, are dead.
External influences from other types on entertainment, mostly handheld devices, streaming and social media. Knowledge is now anywhere you have your phone and movie stars have even less privacy. Before they had some sort of mystery about who they were off camera. Now they put their lives on Instagram and they even have their own reality shows. Decline in movie tickets because people are not so keen on going to cinemas as they once were.
I think one of the simplest reasons movie stars are dying out is because they need good movies to back them up. If someone only appears in mid to bad movies, why should anyone get excited for what's to come? Part of the reason Tom Cruise and Christ Pratt have prominence is because they're in movies people actually like.
I've had enough of watching modern movies, so last night I decided to watch one that came out 53 years ago and it was brilliant. Richard Harris and Alec Guinness in Cromwell. Amazing acting, fantastic script and not one purple haired loon in sight.
This. Fury Road did not become a success only because of its technical aspects but the adversity the actors and creators had to endure on set. Shooting in the desert for weeks after having to move to another CONTINENT to make the movie. Hardy and Theron hating the guts of each other (which translates awesome to their fight scene). Hardy having it with the entire production so much that later he apologized Miller for being so short on faith about his film. It all shines through.
Taylor Kitsch was just in "The Terminal List" with Chris Pratt, and Taylor was great. I hope he gets the credit he deserves as a much better actor than biography would claim. And yes, "John Carter" was better than it's reputation, too!
I could envisage John Wayne becoming a house hold name again when the Western revival replaces the slop that Marvel churns out once Disney's done with the licence.
Hello fellow Cobber. Most of the "new" movies I watch these days are at least as old as me, if not way older. This goes for music too. Why discover new movies and new music when there's still a heck of a lot of stuff out there that's been road tested by audiences over many decades and are still said by many to stand the test of time. I can put up with obviously fake backdrops any day over lifeless CGI. And you know you're going to get none of that in old movies (same goes for guaranteeing not to get even a hint of autotune in old music). I will put a caveat. Unless they are the truly grand scale movies of their time, I can't really enjoy watching a lot of movies prior to the 1960s and still never was able to cotton onto John Wayne. I never gave Westerns a chance but for some reason, in recent years I've got hooked on Spaghetti Westerns: I think like a good pizza, they have the cheese in all the right places. As for music, it's the same. I think the end of the code era, and the change in cultural thinking produced some great creative movies and music throughout the 60s and the 70s. But unlike Tarantino, I still LOVE a lot of 80s high production blockbuster stuff too. There was a bit of a late 60s, early 70s revival in the 90s, but a lot of that gradually faded away.
What are you guys talking about, The Rock is awesome! Directed by Michael Bay, starring Nick Cage, Sean Connery and Ed Harris and music by Hans Zimmer, what's not to like?
Vin Diesel is so memorable in Riddick and Chronicles of Riddick. plot sucked, cgi was real 2000'sy, but Diesel's performance stole the show for me. Granted, the character didnt have too much depth, but Diesel can really play the "unstoppable force" role
“You know that they are looking in a mirror; absolutely in a mirror…and it’s the beginning of a lifelong romance.” 😍 -Christopher Lee (in an interview)
I like the Rock just fine as a person, but 100% if he's in a movie I wont be watching it. There will be no character I can connect with. It's like looking at an 8x10 glossy instead of a three-dimensional human. His performances have no edge or interest. No flourish, no nuance, no depth, and no flair.
@@quij7ote222 He is pretty much confirmed a nice guy indeed, but if being nice was the key to making good movies, then Stanley Kubric would be out of a job.
The Rock’s most memorable movies were his earlier efforts. For me, the Rundown is his best film, and his supporting role in Be Cool was one of the highlights of the film!
Small note: I love Terminator Salvation. I liked it at the time of release, and it's aged like wine after the release of Genesis and Dark Fate. It had a decent cast who could actually act and actually tried to expand on previous entries instead of just crapping on them.
I honestly enjoyed it as a movie but it was also a dream come true since I'd seen Terminator as a kid (Reese's dream sequence of a battle). A movie focused on the war. Not another rehash of the "future robot in modern times" which is literally every other terminator movie.
Loved the movie too, my only gripe was the ending, the heart transplant thing was extremely weak, they actually had no reason to kill of Sams character since they already have an established timeline for sending the T800 back in time, so having a terminator hybrid on their side for the actual war wouldn't change much. Plus, a heart transplant in a field hospital? The amount of immunosuppressant drugs one requires when they get an organ transplant would basically be a death sentence in that world.
A side comedy character for sure, but a leading serious role? That was more up for debate. Not everyone can successfully make that transition. Though, luckily, he certainly managed to do so.
@@bwhere45 Yeah I first saw him in BMS, and then when I heard he was doing Reacher I was skeptical, but man did he knock it out of the park. Phenomenal show that stayed true to the source material.
0:52 Sean bean in LOTR didn’t like the helicopter ride up the mountain, so he’d set of super early, in full characters outfit and bike the f-ing mountain, then did his scene, of which was them, CLIMBING A MOUNTAIN! So it definitely came across in his performance.
Just wanted to say I loved watching the drinker seems so calm and chill this stream. Especially during 16:20, kinda warmed my heart seeing him make such an innocent joke with his mates.
Ryan Reynolds is more of a star than Chris Pratt. Deadpool was not an easy thing to do, and you could see him paying his dues to pull it off in the worst wolverine movie and the worst blade movie. That guy deserves the world.
You have to go to the very artsy, smaller, original movies and shows to attain the level of quality that most films had before the current era of Hollywood. Shows like Atlanta, The Bear, Beef, Euphoria and most A24 movies like Good Time, Uncut Gems, Funny Pages, The Lighthouse, The Witch, Hereditary, and The Whale all were most likely made with 100% effort and sacrifice of the entire cast and crew and it definitely shows. You definitely won’t find the same level of quality control in a corporate product which is what most franchise films are.
@@Chaz4543 That was because he wasn't allowed to, the director and studio had a different vision. When he announced his return as the character his condition was a comic book and character-accurate portrayal of the character (before he got booted out).
I worked as a camera flyer at Perris Valley skydiving in Perris CA. They used have had a LOT of actors come there to learn to jump, typically for films: Tom Cruise (not sure the film); Patrick Swayze for Point break, etc. I worked there in the early 2000's for a season, and those guys had been there years before me. I was talking with someone a couple years ago that had been there, and was the stunt man for a lot of things (Austin Powers in the opening scene of 2; one of the bands members of Wilco for a video). He told me they used to have people from Hollywood there regularly, it was just something you got used to after a period. He was there for a couple years before Covid, and said that the only actors or musicians that he's seen come there by that point were the ones who are skydivers themselves and just jump for fun. You could make a justifiable argument that CGI has made it unnecessary for them to do it anymore, but I think that's a different thing all together. That's more of a statement of "practical vs CGI." I'm looking at it more in the context of films that were done with real people doing the stunts, and the fact that none of the actors today even fight to do their own stunts. I understand the whole insurance and liability argument, but there are still actors doing their own stunts in spite of that, and there are a lot of actors who constantly fight to do their own stunts in spite of the fact that they might not win. I think the younger generation of actors DO care about the work, it's just that their priorities are completely different from what they were in decades past. It does seem more about "them." Most actors have some narcissism to them to one degree or another, it's just one of those professions that attract that type, politicians are another. I don't really have an issue with self promotion, but it seems like the younger batch have gone to a whole nother (is that even a word? Google voice says it is) level. Now it's about self-idealization. It's like the films or shows are merely vehicles, a means to an end, at opposed to the ends themselves.
Jaquien Phoenix had an incredible portrayl in joker. A lot of scenes had Phoenix improvising. I.e. the scene where he climbs in the fridge and there's a long drawn out shot of him just sitting in there. It makes for such a great scene and immersion experience having a cast member really embrace their character
John Carpenter made his actors work on freezing sets for the The Thing 1982 and it really shows. The actors were also freaked out by the practical effects. One of the best horror movies ever.
Back in the day, James Cameron was legendary for having brutally difficult sets. In the Abyss, he drove many of his actors to tears shooting that film. He had similar grueling shoots for his Terminator movies. Not sure about his later movies though.
Keanu Reeves another one I think that’s a big bankable household name. He actually cares about making movies like Tom Cruise does. Keanu was big in the 90s with action films like Point Break, Speed, and The Matrix, and then he had a career resurgence of sorts in 2014 with the first John Wick film, then that franchise took off and became one of the biggest action franchises ever. I just think it’s cool how an actor that was big 30 years ago and was already known for iconic roles like Neo can come back in his 50s with another character and franchise that becomes even bigger than what he was known for before. John Wick as a character now is iconic, everyone knows who he is. It’s a rarity to get an original character like that nowadays that becomes iconic, since everything is comic book movies and remakes. John Wick is the only one I can think of in recent years.
Idris Elba is another true movie star. Everything I've seen him in he's been excellent. Everywhere from the father in Beast, to Heimdall in the MCU and he was even great as Knuckles in Sonic 2!
Recently rewatched the bourne identity. It may not be entirely believable, but the amnesiac character still had more emotional pull and internal consistency than anything I've seen in the last few years
Actors used to go through stuff. In the scene where Malcolm McDowell is being reprogrammed in A Clockwork Orange, apparently, those eye clamps were scraping Malcoms eyeballs, damaging his corneas and led to temporary blindness Could you imagine modern actors going through agony for their art? Hell, didn't they have to give Morfydd Clark counciling to deal with PTSD after the fight scenes in Rangs of Power?
It started with the studios, then the 'stars' came to the forefront, next came the directors. Now we're in the age of the IP, which effectively brings us back full circle to the studios since they own the IPs.
You really ended that clip with Jeremy saying "I'm probably the only person in the world who like terminator salvation." It wasn't even the end of his sentence but you made it that way.
In a commercial kitchen, we don't hold back with criticism, for the sake of good food and a great customer experience. I think the same holds true for entertainment. You have to be able to speak your mind if something tastes or smells like shit.
Two things about movie starts that are essential are presence and mystery. A movie star doesn't need to be a great actor to command our attention. Social media, of course, has destroyed the mystery element. Before, we hardly knew anything about movie stars, yet we looked up to them and even related to them at times.
Did you know that The Rock voiced Cliffjumper in Transformers Prime animated show and he had his character killed off because he is not the main lead instead of Peter Cullen being Optimus Prime?
Ryan , Taylor K was great in recent show that everyone liked. Show about marine with Chris Pratt! He was his friend , CIA guy who lived on a boat. He was literally almost in every episode 😁
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Love how the video just randomly ends at "I'm one of the 5 people who liked Terminator: Salvation". Poor guy doesn't even get a chance to justify himself.
Sam Worthington has the charisma of a doorknob agreed. Michael Fassbender, despite having done some crap movies, is actually a phenomenal actor and one of the best working today. Taylor Kitsch is talented, very good in Friday Night Lights, but not really big movie star material in my opinion.
I remember a crazy video behind the scenes with Harrison Ford on the set of "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" talking about losing his hat and Ford just taking a stapler to his head.. It was probably a joke but on some level it wouldn't surprise me either. Another great out take with "Rumble in the Bronx" showing Jackie Chan pulling a rubber mask that looked like a tennis shoe to cover a cast on his damn ankle and he's back to shooting... I don't see that in film today. Tom Cruise I think literally is the LAST movie star.
I think a lot of her earlier films were really good. The Rundown was good. he had a lot of charisma along with general strength vibe, but after a while he did just kind of become a meme.
The best performance of Dwayne Johnson is voicing Maui in "Moana" :P I am not a fan of Tom Cruise, but damn, he's the best thing in Tropic Thunder. Haven't seen that film in ages, need to rewatch it xd Taylor Kitsch appeared with Chris Pratt in The Terminal List.
Yeah I feel exactly that way about the rock. Just ...meh. Not bad. But not great. Not special. Apparently he's picky though about how he's portrayed, and he's a businessman first and foremost. He has a cohort of staff that screen and customise scripts to make sure he's portrayed "on brand" ...exactly as he wants. And he has a lot of power to change scripts. So his safe, family friendly, milk-toast bland image is his own making. Even in black Adam, where the original script called for him to be more of a villain he had it changed. But he didn't really have the acting ability to play an antihero anyway.
The Rock actually does have the acting ability to play an anti-hero. Because he did it to perfection in fast 5 as Luke Hobbs, which is the character that many believe sky rocketed both his career and the fast franchise the past decade.
the test for a movie star is: "would you still watch it if they cast someone else?" for the rock the answer is yes, you would. because you dont go to see it because he is in it, they could easily cast someone else but hes a nice safe play, and hes a friendly face for diverse casting so it plays into politics well, whereas caville is a white man and must therefore be avoided at all costs. we still call the rock "the rock" and that was his wrestling name...even now that is what he is most remembered for. he is not a movie star, he is safe way for corporations to tick the diversity box. thats all.
It's becoming a cliche, but we've reached the point where everyone under 35 was raised in "participation trophy" culture. Emotions like sadness, anger, disappointment, etc. are supposed to be dealt with to make our minds stronger. They're the equivalent of weights, running, etc. that make our bodies stronger. Instead of overcoming and moving past things, people wallow in misery or worse expect the world to change to suit them.
To me Henry Cavil is Tom Cruise without the power. Tom has been around for so long that he can dictate what goes in a movie or not. He also makes sure in has his name in Executive Producer so he can make things happen in movies. Tom also been around so long that back in the day until today where "time and grade" matters i.e grandfathered in as mention. Henry can't do that yet because that don't really exist anymore. He's trying to but he can't so he's trying to make his own with Warhammer 40K for example. The Rock is an action hero with no one to fight. In a good chunk of his movies in the middle of his career he's had no one to play off of that's a big name or someone his size to be remember as a on screen threat to him. In the middle of his career it was The Rock vs whatever natural disaster. He had something with Fast and the Furious but his beef with Vin didn't do him any favors and there is too many big name/alpha guys in the movie. His stand alone kind of break was Black Adam but it flopped and I don't get why. I'm sure if they did something with him and Superman and or Shazam a lot of people would come see it.
This is why Batista also does not like being compared to The Rock. He's stated before that he transitioned to ACTING so he wants and is looking for roles that will push his acting where he can learn and grow as an ACTOR not just a Rock big muscelly guy. I really like that. If you're becoming an actor, jump in, don't just put you toes in to be safe. Just go for it.
