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Driving Fail | Close Pass Special | Simply Not Good Enough 

Ashley Neal
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A massive thanks to all my viewers for sending these close pass clips in.
Hopefully we can change a few attitudes with this video.
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@GronTheMighty
@GronTheMighty 3 месяца назад
I was recently driving behind a pair of bicycles at a decent distance, waiting for a reasonable and safe opportunity to pass, when a woman in an Audi came up from behind, started honking aggressively at me and gesturing to overtake - with opposing traffic streaming by the whole time of course, making it impossible to do at all, let alone safely.. I stayed calm and kept my positioning for a couple more minutes until a good straight stretch without opposing traffic came up, then passed them safely and they both threw thumbs up at me, and as the Audi lady passed the thumbs got turned down; they weren't deaf to her aggressive honking. The Audi lady and me both arrived at the red light up ahead at the same time, the two cyclists came in about 10-15 seconds later while we were still waiting of course.. Don't take chances on the road, keep calm, and arrive safely! :D
@wibbley1
@wibbley1 3 месяца назад
Did the bikes just squeeze up the inside to get in front, only to hold you up again? This is what they normally do.
@tubularcandy812
@tubularcandy812 3 месяца назад
Well it saved the Audi one car length. Amazing.
@danieltesfaye8517
@danieltesfaye8517 3 месяца назад
@@wibbley1actual hold ups aren't even caused by cyclists. They are caused by other cars and traffic lights. The fact that the other cyclists caught them up just shows that there was no point in overtaking anyway.
@wibbley1
@wibbley1 3 месяца назад
@@danieltesfaye8517 When I get stuck behind the lycra fancy-dress boys racing on the roads around Box Hill, I can assure you that I am stuck behind them and they will never pull over to allow faster traffic to pass, because a) they are cyclists and b) they are racing on the public highway. Similarly at roadworks & traffic lights, Knobby pushes his way to the front & then sets off, holding all the traffic he has just weaved around, up.
@danieltesfaye8517
@danieltesfaye8517 3 месяца назад
@@wibbley1 You have to understand from their perspective that they are training and they can't just bend over backwards for cars and faster traffic. The probably used to give way to traffic and got tired of it as it interfered with their training. Cyclists have the right to use the road like everyone else and should not have to dismount or get out of the way so motorists can save no time at all. Cyclists only do it out of courtesy not because it is a requirement, but you make it sound like it is. What is the motorists equivalent of dismounting and getting out of the way? Just give me one. Is it give way to speeding drivers tailgating you? Cyclists are not lesser beings that must get out of your way and car drivers have it so easy. Cyclists are 6 times or 7 times more likely to be killed and you are complaining about cycling groups that hold you up slightly but not actually holding you up?
@richardnicholson3912
@richardnicholson3912 3 месяца назад
I’m an HGV driver and drive an artic. Once I had to follow a cyclist for 5 miles before I could get past and the only reason I got past was because we went different ways at a junction. There was nowhere safe and the cyclist wasn’t going to stop and let me go. It is it what it is. If you have to wait a while to pass safely then so be it. Would you rather injure or kill them to save a few minutes?
@shm5547
@shm5547 3 месяца назад
I doubt it was 5 miles.
@richardnicholson3912
@richardnicholson3912 3 месяца назад
@@shm5547 was it not? Were you there with me? The queue of cars behind was epic.
@st200ol
@st200ol 3 месяца назад
I've followed cyclists for similar distances along the "back-roads" round here, the type with passing places for cars to pass. Why don't they stop and wave people by? Some do but not many. It should go both ways, a cyclist blocking traffic until there is a long queue behind should also be guilty of some kind of offence. Public nuisance, or anti-social behaviour perhaps.
@Mrhullsie2
@Mrhullsie2 3 месяца назад
That sounds like the cyclist was part of the problem. If you keep a vehicle stuck behind you for that long it is not entirely surprising that some will decide to take a risk and make a close pass, also the driver that waits for 5 miles may not be as patient with the next cyclist they come across. We share the roads and if we expect consideration from others we also need to be considerate to others
@powernab8457
@powernab8457 3 месяца назад
@richardnicholson3912: "Would you rather injure or kill them to save a few minutes?" In answer to your questions! Never mind a few minutes!! Some motorist with their one TON plus vehicle would want to injure or kill a cyclist just for a few SECONDS!!
@smilerbob
@smilerbob 3 месяца назад
Unfortunately the vast majority of those drivers wont see anything wrong with what they did or how pointless the passes were. They will simply see that they got to the red light / junction / queue before the cyclist therefore their journey time is quicker. They wont/ cannot see that the cyclist has then passed them once more so there was no time saved, only increased risk I will happily stay behind a cyclist for however long it takes to make a safe pass, if it is 5 minutes then it is 5 minutes, no issue with me. I start my journey with time to spare in case of lights, roadworks, queues. Too many drivers in a rush to get nowhere fast and making too many risky mistakes in doing so
@powernab8457
@powernab8457 3 месяца назад
@smilerbob: "They wont/ cannot see that the cyclist has then passed them once more so there was no time saved, only increased risk" That was a brilliant point that you made 👍
@I_Evo
@I_Evo 3 месяца назад
Why would you re-pass a driver who has just done a close pass on you? Need to be something of a masochist to want to do that.
@Strider9655
@Strider9655 3 месяца назад
I don't think it's anything to do with journey time, it's about being held up by a lower status road user.
@powernab8457
@powernab8457 3 месяца назад
​ @I_Evo You missed the point!! If the cyclist comes past you a few seconds or so later and you are now stuck in traffic or in a queue of other motor vehicles, then the point of the close pass was pointless as the crap driver yielded no fruit from the close pass!
@I_Evo
@I_Evo 3 месяца назад
@@powernab8457 And from a cycling point of view my point stands.
@SiCrewe
@SiCrewe 3 месяца назад
On Friday I had to take a diversion along a twisty single-track rural road. Caught up to a group of cyclists who, bless 'em, kept looking behind and waving me through... despite the fact that the next blind bend was never more than 30m away and the road was never wide enough for a safe pass, let alone wide enough to take avoiding action should an oncoming vehicle appear. I think they were starting to get a little frustrated that I wouldn't pass but an entrance to a farm came up and they all pulled in and stopped to wave me through. Passenger window down to say thanks, a wave and a thumbs-up and I'm on my way. Thing is, I could have got annoyed at them and they could have got annoyed at me but things always go better if we retain a bit of courtesy.
@stevegee8010
@stevegee8010 3 месяца назад
The number of times I've seen bus drivers dangerously overtake a cyclist on the approach to a bus stop is astounding.
@theyouofyesterday6254
@theyouofyesterday6254 3 месяца назад
I hate being on a bus when this happens. I feel so guilty but can't do anything about it! I'm just sitting upstairs thinking 'please, don't do it..'😢
@10xZ00M
@10xZ00M 4 дня назад
I've had a coach push past (I was passing parked car) to be first at, in use pelican crossing. The bodywork was rubbing my sleeve! Wish I had a marker pen, to record incident on it's pristine side.
@tslater5
@tslater5 3 месяца назад
At 02:50 - it's mad that we're in a state where letting someone know they passed too close is considered a bad idea. I thought the same thing when watching but where did we go so wrong that someone can drive so close and almost collide with you on a bike when they're in a massive van and then the cyclist should be scared to say "hey, try not to kill me pretty please". Mental
@mctrials23
@mctrials23 3 месяца назад
Had this very discussion with a driver who passed so close to me that I banged on the side of his car with a bent elbow. Couldn't understand how it wasn't safe "because I didn't hit you do I??".
@scottf3456
@scottf3456 3 месяца назад
In some states in the US they could possibly be packing a gun.
@steve3291
@steve3291 3 месяца назад
The only thing left is to keep reporting these drivers. Maybe the fines and points will impact their driving.
@davidty2006
@davidty2006 3 месяца назад
Police probably won't do anything.
@PedroConejo1939
@PedroConejo1939 3 месяца назад
Yep. Despite the fact that some people rankle at that, as you say, it's the only thing left to do.
@guessundheit6494
@guessundheit6494 3 месяца назад
Legalize d@m@ge to any vehicle driving that close. Fines never get their attention, repairs at their own expense will.
@Strider9655
@Strider9655 3 месяца назад
Police forces make it really hard to report people..... You fill out a multiple page form online, they send you a link to upload your video, which expires after 2 days. The upload is size limited so most HD video won't be small enough, you can't edit the video and it's must include 2 minutes before/after the event (so if it happened at the beginning of the clip, it's no good). They send you the same form to fill out and sign by hand, to return within 21 days Make a mistake on the form and it's null/void They don't want to deal with this stuff.
@PedroConejo1939
@PedroConejo1939 3 месяца назад
@@Strider9655 I've only made two reports, one to my local force via Operation Snap, which went through easily, and one to a different force, which I found difficult and ultimately probably wasn't even accepted. It seems to depend on which force you are dealing with. I don't mind the detailed questionnaire; it's a legal document that needs to be accurate.
@NicholasFerrar
@NicholasFerrar 3 месяца назад
Thank you Ashley. If you have modified the behaviour of just one driver your video has been worth it.
@shm5547
@shm5547 3 месяца назад
Not worth it at all. A drop in the ocean if only one driver changes their behaviour. There are too many bad drivers out there.
@AzguardMike
@AzguardMike 3 месяца назад
i love this community, truly i do. Because when i watch Dashcam channels and a cyclist one is featured, without fault the comments are all "The cyclist shouldnt be on the road" and blaming the cyclist for whatever happened. Where as this community here are all of sound mind. "This is scary, give cyclists space" etc. As a cyclist and a car driver myself, whenever i'm out on the bike i legit am terrified at times because of how dangerous car drivers get. Its like they are triggered by cyclists, to the point they stop wheel to curb, swerve extra close when passing by and so on. And pedestrians are just as bad. A few months ago I was cycling at a gingerly pace in a bike lane on the path, this woman threw herself infront, T posed and started screaming "get off the f-ing path!" Then got her phone out and started recording me. And sadly, in the town centre local to me, this happens way to often. People using the bike lane as a pram lane, yelling abuse at cyclists for using the bike lane When I drive the car, i tend to hold back, give bikes a wide berth and do what i can to protect them. And again, i've had other road users give me abuse. I've been beeped at, had a driver yelling out the window at the next lights. On one occasion I was followed to my destination and when i got out, the guy got out and started giving me abuse about how i slowed him down. My man, you just wasted more time in following me to where i went.
@richardworley7798
@richardworley7798 3 месяца назад
You haven't looked at enough of the comments yet mate
@andrewclifton429
@andrewclifton429 3 месяца назад
These people have no shame... But they're increasingly likely to be prosecuted and fined, thanks to the boom in dash cam use. In March this year, 'This is Money' reported that over 90,000 fines were issued in 2023 based on dash cam evidence alone. Drivers who just don't care about needlessly risking other people's lives to save a couple of minutes may find themselves regretting such penalties, as well as points on their licence.
@supersuede91
@supersuede91 3 месяца назад
Based Dashscams
@mctrials23
@mctrials23 3 месяца назад
Funnily enough, the majority of submissions and fines are from car dash cams despite drivers whinging that cyclists are the ones out to get them.
@KindredBrujah
@KindredBrujah 2 месяца назад
We can but hope, anyway.
@SamOwenI
@SamOwenI 3 месяца назад
This is one of those videos where the clips are what I see regularly on the commute to and from work. It's horrifying how common close passing is. Nothing in this video was extraordinary, which is very sad indeed.
@richardworley7798
@richardworley7798 3 месяца назад
Absolutely, fairly normal to get all of this, in a ride to work, even as an experienced defensive riding cyclist.
@Matthew-bu7fg
@Matthew-bu7fg 3 месяца назад
if there's one aspect of driving I feel as though gets worse by the day, it is this. The amount of times I've been on the other side of the road as a car overtakes a cyclist putting not only the cyclist but also myself at risk as they sidle over slightly to my side of the road... it's ridiculous
@doghous3
@doghous3 3 месяца назад
yeah, i see this a lot as a motorcyclist and I have no choice but to move over to the left of the lane.
@johno4521
@johno4521 3 месяца назад
People just don't know how to overtake/pass safely anymore no matter what you're driving. Even on a dual carriageway, passing another vehicle with nothing in front of or behind them, some cut in across your bows completely unnecessarily when moving back in.
@Strider9655
@Strider9655 3 месяца назад
They know, most of the time it's completely deliberate.
@susanwestern6434
@susanwestern6434 3 месяца назад
Passing too close and at speed especially with horses and other animals is especially thoughtless. Some areas of the country such as the New Forest, Dartmoor etc have herds of ponies and sheep roaming free and unfenced. People used to cities have little idea how to drive safely around animals.
@jr.sw23
@jr.sw23 3 месяца назад
They might cut you up if you sped up when they were trying to overtake or if you overtook them, then slowed down. Lots of people do this to me when my cruise control is set to an exact speed.
@tpfrobsonable
@tpfrobsonable 3 месяца назад
I think things have become much better than they were 20 years ago, when the criteria for overtaking seemed to be whether the vehicle would physically fit and most drivers seemed to assume that any cyclist who wasn't a foot from the kerb was being inconsiderate. I am still overtaken at yellow bollards and hooted at if I move into the middle of the road to avoid potholes but it's becoming a lot rarer.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 3 месяца назад
my city spend years and bundles doing an "improvement" to a particularly bottlenecked piece of road, and in the process lined the shiny new cycle lane with drain grates. what is particularly annoying is they have a footpath separated by a planting strip, and they could very easily have made that a double wide shared path and everything would have been better. actually, what is most annoying is my state offered to make all the upgrades including adding two more driving lanes to eliminate the bottleneck - which still exists - at no cost to the city; and the city declined the offer.
@mattwardman
@mattwardman 3 месяца назад
I think Ashley this is one of the most shocking vids I have seen, and as you know I regularly watch the roadcc Near Miss of the Day. I make it that about half of these deliberately break the rules of the road, never mind the close pass - whether overtaking through traffic calming, undertaking the cyclist or going straight ahead on a left-turn lane.
@CyclingSouthLincolnshire
@CyclingSouthLincolnshire 3 месяца назад
Unfortunately, as you will probably know, the more you cycle the more you witness this idiocy.
@stevestrange965
@stevestrange965 3 месяца назад
Thanks for this. Cycling around Bristol I reckon about 50% of overtakes are less than 1.5m. I just report the worst ones that are obviously too close and/or fast, approx 10 a week. Most get warning letters, some are prosecuted.
@TheJackKWhitehouse
@TheJackKWhitehouse 3 месяца назад
That country road one is absolutely crazy close. The van coming the other way towards the end was bad but if you're going to include that one, then you could probably include 90% of overtakes in the UK 😂
@PedroConejo1939
@PedroConejo1939 3 месяца назад
Nice Humber at 5:06. Can't remember the last time I saw one of them. Some absolute shockers there. I'd definitely have reported some of those to either the police or the company whose vehicle it was. It would be interesting to know what the results were if that happened.
@smilerbob
@smilerbob 3 месяца назад
I have found contacting the company involved is usually a positive experience and things are handled amicably between all. Sometimes a gentle reminder is all that is needed to help improve. Obviously if it is absolutely abysmal driving then stronger action is perhaps needed My experiences are from being a driver as I have not been on the bike for many years now. Injuries are not favourable for me anymore and age slowly creeping up on me making any niggle take much longer to disappear
@driving_all_over
@driving_all_over 3 месяца назад
Re the clip in Abergavenny at 1:30 - I certainly wouldn’t want to be overtaking a cyclist on any part of that road let alone across the bridge since it acts as a western bypass of the town centre hence why it’s fairly busy. There’s also a couple of roundabouts and a set of lights up ahead too so I doubt the overtaker got very far
@oliverpolden
@oliverpolden 3 месяца назад
Basically, if you don’t get at least half of your car into the other lane, ideally completely in to the other lane, you’re too close.
@bengoodwin83
@bengoodwin83 3 месяца назад
Agree 100% on the be careful when confronting a close passer point. Few weeks ago I was close passed badly in a built up area right before a red light so I decided to stick up for myself and confronted the driver after filtering past. After this the guy followed me, pulled alongside while screaming abuse, then turned into me and knocked me off, then drove off. Got his Reg and the police are doing a brilliant job following up on the case. Just be careful everyone, they’re some real psychos with a temper in cars who shouldn’t be on the road.
@deelitedmanchester4302
@deelitedmanchester4302 3 месяца назад
I never confront drivers if I'm fortunate enough to catch them up further down the road. I let the Police do that for me. GMP seem to be taking close passes quite seriously in my experience of late.
@fatchris101
@fatchris101 3 месяца назад
i was the guy who spoke to the driver of the van. i could see his face in mirror he looked about 19 could be younger and might have been his 1st job. usually i would just report them but it's not always got to end in a fight or losing his job or points ect sometimes education is enough.
@fatchris101
@fatchris101 3 месяца назад
@Leidolfr take this however you want but not being big headed. I don’t fear death nor do i fear fighting or hand to hand combat i can also ride away if necessary. Yes im very aware people will stab you over nothing but a young lad working is very unlikely to be that type of person. Like i said i dont usually bother and just report these people but sometimes people dont know the mistakes they make
@jonathanharris9727
@jonathanharris9727 3 месяца назад
I'd really recommend a Garmin Varia if you can afford one. Means you always know what's behind you so are not taken by surprise and can pull over to let pass if appropriate.
@fadrus
@fadrus 3 месяца назад
I used to get close passed by a van most mornings for about a month on my way to work. I'd be doing about 10 miles an hour uphill on a country road and this thing would come past at about 50. I thought about getting a camera but this was happening about 5 in the morning and it would be completely obvious to the driver who it was that reported them. I had severe doubts whether I'd be in more danger by reporting so ended up adding some time to my journey and going another way. And the number of times I got overtaken on a bend was insane. If a driver coming the other way was overtaking a cyclist in the same manner there would have been a head on crash. If cyclists themselves can play any part in the solution it would be to pull over early and find opportunities to let cars through. The less a driver feels they will be held up, perhaps the fewer risks they will feel they need to make to overtake.
@Petelmrg
@Petelmrg 3 месяца назад
I was so sad when I decided to give up cycling when I just had too many near-death experiences on the rural lines where we live.
@Mort221
@Mort221 3 месяца назад
Slightly off topic but at 5:05, that's a Humber Hawk on the left hand side, according to a bit of googling, that's a '66 which makes it a Series IVA. 2.3L Straight 4 engine, potentially one of 3,754 made. Nice little spot that!
@johnfh
@johnfh 3 месяца назад
You too! I saw that, thanks for your research.
@mikemorris3421
@mikemorris3421 3 месяца назад
Even rarer if was the estate version and a colour of the period.
@chrisrand5185
@chrisrand5185 3 месяца назад
I spotted that too, but mistakenly thought it was a Super Snipe. Yes, it's a Hawk.
@DevAnubis
@DevAnubis 3 месяца назад
- 👏 Periodic 👏 Mandatory 👏 Retests 👏 (5 years feels fair, 10 years certainly) - Retest when accumulating 6 points - Retest after ANY dangerous driving offence (D40) irrespective of points. - Retest after any insurance claim where significant vehicle damage or injury was done. - Retest after any incident involving a more vulnerable road user. Pick a point somewhere down that escalating scale, but we very clearly do not have enough of an incentive to drive to a safe and reasonable standard (let alone a HIGH standard).
@quadangalo
@quadangalo 3 месяца назад
I fully agree. The average driving population falls well below a respectable standard and we should start using any way to remove poor quality from our roads!
@KevinHorrox
@KevinHorrox 3 месяца назад
Not only retests, but a more comprehensive learning programme. With a reasonable minimal hours requirement before you can take a practical test
@heavybrambles
@heavybrambles 3 месяца назад
None of this matters when people can just keep hammering against the system until they get through. "Passed on my 12th attempt", wow that's great news, you managed to drive for a little under 1 hour without putting someone else in danger after failing to do so the previous 11 times. I'm sure that upon leaving the test centre you're now going to be a considerate and competent road user for the next 30000 hours of driving.
@ashley_neal
@ashley_neal 3 месяца назад
It's a good thought, all I would remind people of is that most of the time it's not that people don't know how to drive correctly but they choose not to. Would retesting address this issue?
@guessundheit6494
@guessundheit6494 3 месяца назад
ANNUAL retesting, mandatory as part of insurance renewal. No retest, no license. Renewal without retesting rewards and encourages reckless driving. "I've never had a crash!" says the sociopathic tailgater and brake tester. Lacking damage does not equate to being a good driver.
@petecurran3995
@petecurran3995 3 месяца назад
How has it got to the point where there is such a widespread lack of patience, discipline and the ability to plan ahead on UK roads?! Incredulous. Great examples! 👍🏻
@SteveJones-gz4vd
@SteveJones-gz4vd 3 месяца назад
It's carzy, beacuase there is so much traffic on the roads including cylists there is zero piont in trying to race past cylists and cars alike as the only thing you achieve is putting others at risk.
@guessundheit6494
@guessundheit6494 3 месяца назад
Because car companies encourage that sense of entitlement. Look at their advertising, using words like "conquer" and "surpass", making them view roads as a war zone and v`ol3nce as "acceptable behaviour".
@SteveJones-gz4vd
@SteveJones-gz4vd 3 месяца назад
@@guessundheit6494 Not convinced , I'm more of the thinking that the amount of cars and general traffic on the roads leads to impatience, after all we ALL have to pass the driving test. I've seen as many impatient and selfish cylists as I have seen motorists, prehaps a major push for education in schools would be a start. I think it's more complex than what you are eluding to
@jonescrusher1
@jonescrusher1 3 месяца назад
Too many vehicles on roads with no extra capacity provided, and newer cars are far too big for said roads.
@SteveJones-gz4vd
@SteveJones-gz4vd 3 месяца назад
@@jonescrusher1 Agree , I'm unsure why car manufacturers build such massive small cars now ? maybe due to saftey requirements
@AlexLapinski
@AlexLapinski 3 месяца назад
I drove for Ocado for four and a half years (which also included Morrisons routes) and not once did I ever feel so stressed or pressured that I would need to close-pass like the two van drivers did here. It's people's shopping - who cares if it's a bit late? I never faced any reprimand for a late delivery. I now drive coaches and will quite happily sit in my air-conditioned cab and wait until it is safe to pass. It isn't difficult. What would my passengers think if I put someone's life at risk? It doesn't bear thinking.
@lukeroberts6577
@lukeroberts6577 3 месяца назад
The same kind of thing happens if you are on a motorbike. Almost every close call I've ever had has been the fault of inpatient car/van drivers. People that drive for a living are the worst for it. Not the hgvs though. They usually look after you.
@threeshirescyclist554
@threeshirescyclist554 3 месяца назад
Closest pass I ever had was a tipper truck that had the "width stalk" hit my elbow as i passed on a blind bend. That was why I now have front and back camera's, and report on average 10-15 drivers a year. Cars can be closer, but lorries at speed are terrifying.
@kumquatmagoo
@kumquatmagoo 3 месяца назад
Taxi drivers are the worst in my experience. 90% of close passes are from Taxi drivers here in Bristol, with the other 10% being registered dick heads.
@leenevin8451
@leenevin8451 3 месяца назад
Big bike test teaches speed is your friend
@lukeroberts6577
@lukeroberts6577 3 месяца назад
​@leenevin8451 the amount of times I would have been crushed if I wasn't on a 750.
@caeserromero3013
@caeserromero3013 3 месяца назад
I think the cyclist goes down the outside of the Morrisons van to remonstrate because the van (IMO Deliberately) got close to the curb to stop the cyclist coming down the left side, because he knew what he'd done was wrong and didn't want to have the conversation. At least it was handled gracefully by both parties in the end. Personally, I wouldn't have bothered as the result could easily have been a punch to the face or knife to the guts. More often than not, people don't receive criticism of their driving (or cycling) with good grace. I've had aggression and threats from both drivers and cyclists in the past.
@fatchris101
@fatchris101 3 месяца назад
I can say this because i sent the clip, he was about 19 years old probably his first job and wanted to give him the chance to do better because a report to the police could have caused him to lose his job. He did pass me a mile or so later and did a fine example of a good pass. I do wish ash uploaded that part also
@EndstyleGG
@EndstyleGG 3 месяца назад
When I first started driving, I felt the pressure to overtake from everyone, but I'm glad I never caved. There was once when someone was actively telling me to go, but I felt I didn't have enough clear vision or time. At that moment a car came flying from the corner and that gave me all the evidence and confidence I needed to trust my own judgement only. My rule of thumb is, can I move into the oncoming lane fully without endangering or even inconveniencing anybody else and once I'm there, I can safely accelerate more to get past quickly. It's also a nice excuse to hear a little of the 5cyl jtdm purr, but that's only bonus to a safe overtake ;)
@doctorsocrates4413
@doctorsocrates4413 3 месяца назад
What also should be taken into consideration is the fact that the majority of uk roads were never designed so vehicles give cycles 1.5m clearance....It would in fact be safer for the cyclist to take the primary position in some instances to avoid such close passing.
@mctrials23
@mctrials23 3 месяца назад
Consider how pissed off drivers get when cyclists make it a mild inconvenience to overtake. Imagine how bad it would be if they felt cyclists were intentionally blocking them. Thats the issue. There is an irrational hatred of cyclists and far too many drivers think that cyclists intentionally ride to annoy them rather than just attempting to ride safely.
@nbartlett6538
@nbartlett6538 3 месяца назад
Most of the time these passes simply get the driver to the back of the next queue about 2-3 seconds faster.
@JCTsFascinatingHobbies
@JCTsFascinatingHobbies 3 месяца назад
This reminds me of one of the more worrying close passes I experienced. It’s summer 1996 and I am about to turn 17. This means I tended to cycle everywhere. I still cycle but more for fitness these days. A kid around my age had just taken in his first car, a light metallic blue Mk1 Astra 5 door. Said Astra acquired some alloys, lowering kit and other enhancements including the Peco big bore four. His driving style was often enthusiastic. So, I’m cycling up Old Wells Road (Glastonbury), a steep road with a number of blind bends. Astra man is using the racing line on one of these blind bends and comes within a few inches of me during an enthusiastic piece of cornering in second gear, at over 4500rpm, making full use of the Peco Big Bore 4 acoustic attributes. I fell into the hedge. I was uninjured and carried on with my day, making sure to call Astra man a colourful name as I passed him parking up outside of his house.
@Pystro
@Pystro 3 месяца назад
In the last clip at 9:37 That wasn't a close pass by the car. The car suddenly swerved out (in?) in front of the cyclist who was about to filter past. I guess the driver didn't think to check the mirrors before doing that swerve because they stayed in their own marked lane and there wasn't an explicit lane that the cyclist was in. (That and probably also target fixation on the obstacle ahead.)
@wiredwomble7958
@wiredwomble7958 3 месяца назад
Overtakes on bends, up hills and into hidden dips. See it too many times while out on my bike and in my car.
@robertparkinson2102
@robertparkinson2102 3 месяца назад
'Becoming'? I commuted by bike for decades. Since the highway code specified 5 foot has been improving.
@fatchris101
@fatchris101 3 месяца назад
Glad to see a few of my clips featured. Good video as always ash
@ashley_neal
@ashley_neal 3 месяца назад
Thanks for sending in!
@fatchris101
@fatchris101 3 месяца назад
@@ashley_neal i do wish you did post the rest of the Morrisons clip tho, he did a textbook pass a mile up the road. But i do agree approaching someone is risky on this occasion i could see them in the mirror and felt it was safe enough
@mikgold
@mikgold 3 месяца назад
I see lots of cyclists using the pavement or signalling right on the far left of roundabouts. As a confident cyclist I can only assume this behaviour is due to fear of the usual few that spoil it for everyone else thus the 20mph limits in high ovcupancy areas.
@Kieran.Robertson
@Kieran.Robertson 3 месяца назад
Every time I see a cyclist on the pavement I just think “I completely understand you mate, the roads are scary” Though I secretly despise pavement cycling
@shm5547
@shm5547 3 месяца назад
Err, cyclists are allowed to turn right from the leftmost lane of a roundabout.
@mikgold
@mikgold 3 месяца назад
@shm5547 I never knew that but won't try it.
@shm5547
@shm5547 3 месяца назад
@@mikgold rule 79. It’s often the best option, especially on large multilane roundabouts.
@mattwardman
@mattwardman 3 месяца назад
Thanks for the video, Ashley. In the first clip at 0:30, it's a 20 mph limit and based on counting the road markings I make it that the cyclist is at 20-22mph, never mind the overtaking SUV. Why is the overtake even being attempted? On the second clip at 1:05, if he's riding a cycle your viewer is quite fit by my standards. The delivery driver clip at 2:10 is an example of where it feels very risky to take a strong enought primary to make a difference as the lane is so wide. I have one urban road near me with a 12m carriageway and 2 lanes where there are 2 pedestrian refuges 50m apart longitudinally, but there is a sideways offset in road positioning of of 1m+ with central hatchings of 3.5m wide - crazily inconsistent and difficult to control overtakers as one is just about safe for overtakes, and the other not. Presumably the designer thought "buggins turn" or something equally stupid. I don't understand why that is a 40 limit; I'd make it a 30 and introduce mid level protected mobility tracks, There's plenty of space.
@shm5547
@shm5547 3 месяца назад
6:50 I was expecting a comment about how wide angle lenses distort distances and how that wasn't close! Pleasantly surprised that these dangerous close passes attracted the criticism they deserve. Driving like this is probably the number one reason more people don't cycle on the roads. You have to be tough to keep going when subjected to dangerous behaviour like this.
@ashley_neal
@ashley_neal 3 месяца назад
None of these cyclists try to magnify any of the events they encounter, unlike a number of the people you idolise.
@shm5547
@shm5547 3 месяца назад
@@ashley_neal I don't idolise anyone?! I'm just unbiased.
@ashley_neal
@ashley_neal 3 месяца назад
Lol. You're one of the most blinkered of the people who comment regularly on this channel.
@shm5547
@shm5547 3 месяца назад
@@ashley_neal well, you are entitled to your opinion, but I thoroughly disagree. I would say I'm one of the most balanced and thoughtful commenters, backing up my observations and opinions with lived experience and facts! Anyway, just got back from a nice road bike ride. One red light safely negotiated and a short section of pavement riding to avoid a large vehicle. All potential close passes were effectively managed with judicious application of road positioning. So thankfully I don't have to fill in a police report or upload a video today! 😉
@ashley_neal
@ashley_neal 3 месяца назад
'Backing up your observations and opinions with facts?!' Didn't you question one of the earliest comments about the distance a HGV driver had to wait behind a cyclist when you weren't even there? Also thanks for finishing off your comment where you clearly explained nothing happened but you still make out you are a victim.
@mickb6285
@mickb6285 3 месяца назад
The level of driving standards is clearly getting worse and the current fines and points system is an adequate deterrent. So how about anyone who is found guilty of even "minor" driving offences such as close passes, speeding and phone use, should compulsorily be made to attend the scene of a traffic accident with the emergency services, so they fully understand the absolute carnage a split second careless decision can cause. Or they can surrender their licence.
@theyouofyesterday6254
@theyouofyesterday6254 3 месяца назад
I loved seeong the nice passes in this video. In my experience they are quite infrequent: so much so that when a lorry gives me a comfortable amount of space I sometimes almost cry in relief. I always put my hand up to thank nice passers, should they happen to glance in their mirror. I also turn and smile and thank drivers who have to wait a while to pass me, and do the same if I have to take the lane. I think it helps them see me as a human person and not a 'cyclist'. Normal human interaction is a bit absent on the roads. If someone holds a door for me I'll thank them, so I also thank people for not killing me 😊
@ricequackers
@ricequackers 3 месяца назад
If councils just tacked on a segregated cycle path whenever a road was being dug up (the policy in the Netherlands since the early 90s), there would be a big network of cycle paths and no close passes at all.
@SabotsLibres
@SabotsLibres 2 месяца назад
Except in the Netherlands, cyclists think they can do anything they like since, even when they are technically in the wrong, they are legally always in the right.
@supershikoku
@supershikoku 3 месяца назад
Question for Ashley and regular cyclists: When driving I often encounter cyclists on the other side of the road and an impatient driver getting way too close to the rear wheel. My instinct is to make more space by inching a little to the left of my lane to decrease risk if the driver does then start a close pass. But I've always wondered if that just makes the situation worse by encouraging the overtake? What do you think?
@Kieran.Robertson
@Kieran.Robertson 3 месяца назад
It’s a catch-22
@shm5547
@shm5547 3 месяца назад
Makes it worse. Never encourage a dangerous pass. It’s equivalent to flashing your lights to let someone out of a junction when there’s other traffic coming.
@fatchris101
@fatchris101 3 месяца назад
its a reason my car and my push bike have a rear cam, people who tailgate when im cycling are the fucking worst. unfortunately if you are not the person doing it or the cyclist all you can do is drive to the statard you was taught can't really help any party out
@PedallingWoodworker
@PedallingWoodworker 3 месяца назад
Ive been a cyclist for many decades, advanced police driver too (2 decades), retired now. Over the years ive been clipped by drivers wing mirrors when theyre doing close passes, the last one was coming towards me on a narrow lane! Driving standards need to improve. The cyclist may be delaying you slightly, but if you do an overtake like these you could kill someone! Your impatience may end up with you in Crown Court getting sent down for causing death by dangerous driving! If nothing else, think on that before you take an unacceptable risk with the life of another human!
@mctrials23
@mctrials23 3 месяца назад
On the plus side, it will be a laughably small sentence if you end up in prison at all. The saying "if you want to kill someone, do it in a car" is very much true.
@andyedwards7800
@andyedwards7800 3 месяца назад
A quick note that Thames Valley Police say if no part of the bike is visible in the shot it is not a close pass.
@CyclingSouthLincolnshire
@CyclingSouthLincolnshire 3 месяца назад
Wow.
@shm5547
@shm5547 3 месяца назад
TVP have been lacklustre with op snap submissions recently
@the_dwin
@the_dwin 3 месяца назад
My local police have stopped taking close pass reports. I wish that there was some campaign where drivers would be sent a pamphlet about this when reported for a close pass. I don't want people to risk losing their license with points unless it's habitual, but I just don't think these drivers even think about it. Sure some may be malicious, but most just see that there's "just" enough space and go for it, without any concern for the risk. A friend who took a speed awareness course was shown just how little time he saved by speeding. Perhaps a similar thing here, like you highlight in the video, just showing how pointless and dangerous close passing is.
@smilerbob
@smilerbob 3 месяца назад
Still make the report but when it gets rejected make a complaint to the police ombudsman As far as I am aware, the police cannot refuse a potential crime report but can refuse to investigate. But could be wrong of course on that
@goodyeoman4534
@goodyeoman4534 3 месяца назад
Since getting a dash cam, it's been quite illuminating for me learning what the police will act on and what they won't.
@goodyeoman4534
@goodyeoman4534 3 месяца назад
@@smilerbob I reported a lorry tailgating me on the M1. It was blatant and I thought it was a slam dunk. But the police didn't want to pursue it. I did get a submission code, and they told me I could complain about the officer who reviewed it, but I didn't. I was more just confused as to why they didn't want to act on it, as it was so blatant.
@smilerbob
@smilerbob 3 месяца назад
@@goodyeoman4534Similar experience with vehicle vs vehicle offences. I had one that went the wrong side of a mini roundabout, at speed, then got upset that I was already there. Proceeded to be inches off my bumber, weaving, flashing lights and pointing for me to pull over. They then overtook, brake checked me once in front and then off into the distance. Apparently no offences committed as there was no contact but the driver will be spoken to about their aggressive behaviour
@goodyeoman4534
@goodyeoman4534 3 месяца назад
@@smilerbob That's insane. I had a Honda cut me up, stop the car in the middle of the road and then try and drive into my path as I overtook to escape. "No further action." If I'd got out and battered the middle-aged gammon in the Honda, though, I have no doubt the police would have come after me with full intensity.
@patrickormerod3472
@patrickormerod3472 3 месяца назад
1:15 I think the driver realised how close the pass was as they were overtaking as the hazards immediately came on to apologise. Not an excuse but at least they seemed to acknowledge their error
@domt6802
@domt6802 3 месяца назад
Brake lights
@tubularcandy812
@tubularcandy812 3 месяца назад
In the Netherlands we have dedicated bike paths. I would be really scared to drive a bicycle in the UK…
@ryancraig2795
@ryancraig2795 3 месяца назад
3:50 that was a completely illegal pass on the left in a turn lane, wasn't it?
@Gazzxy
@Gazzxy 3 месяца назад
yes, but not inclined to ignore the fact the cyclist seemed lost and decided going ALONG the white line as if he wanted both lanes was a good idea, cant complain about close passes if you left no room for a reasonable one.
@Bin-The-L-Plates
@Bin-The-L-Plates 3 месяца назад
@@GazzxySeems like you're making excuses for the dangerous driving from the van driver. I have replied in another comment, the cyclist was an elderly gentleman, who was clearly cycling slowly because it's a very long hill, it seems you've completely missed the whole point of all of these videos.
@Gazzxy
@Gazzxy 3 месяца назад
@@Bin-The-L-Plates not denying the van was dangerous, just sayign the cyclist did nothing to help his situation cycling along the line,
@MattCantor21
@MattCantor21 3 месяца назад
As always, thank you for featuring my clips. Hopefully it’ll help send a positive message in these educational videos. 😊
@ashley_neal
@ashley_neal 3 месяца назад
Thanks for your support Matt!
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 3 месяца назад
that van on the country road was clearly a punishment pass.
@WayneTulip-zm9gw
@WayneTulip-zm9gw 3 месяца назад
03:51 that white van shouldn’t have undertaken, he also went ahead from a left only lane, terrible driving.
@Gazzxy
@Gazzxy 3 месяца назад
was hardly great riding ither, how does he expect people to pass him safely if he poodling along the white line like he wants both lanes.
@Bin-The-L-Plates
@Bin-The-L-Plates 3 месяца назад
⁠@@GazzxyThat was my video, and the cyclist was an elderly gentlemen and depending where he'd cyclex from inclines progressively for about 1.5 miles, and he's still a bit to go..... So he's entitled to bimble along at whatever speed he wants. As for the van driver, he'd started his overtake along way back and obviously couldn't give a stuff about what was in his way. Pleased with the way my learner driver handled it on his driving lesson. I didn't send all of for the footage to Ashley, but we caught up the van driver at the next set of traffic lights, so the overtake was not only dangerous but pointless.
@mugwump7516
@mugwump7516 3 месяца назад
slightly confused, i was approaching a mini roundabout where visibility to the right was poor, i looked left, a cyclist was approaching but still 50yds away, i slowed to take a right on the roundabout, concentrating on the poor visibility to the right, as i entered the roundabout, indicator on and started to turn right, aware of the cyclist nearing the roundabout the cyclist from the left arrived at the roundabout, i looked right as it was where i was going and the cyclist continued without slowing which forced me to break heavily mid roundabout. Do cyclists have to give way to traffic on the right on roundabouts or was i at fault. Apart from me swearing under my breath, there was no interaction between us and no contact but it must have been very close.
@chrisl1797
@chrisl1797 3 месяца назад
Of course cyclists should give way to traffic coming from the right on a roundabout.
@007floppyboy
@007floppyboy 3 месяца назад
Ashley, proper question. What do you think about distances when on a single track road, and the vehicle is coming towards the cyclist. Should they carry on at speed? Should they slow? Should they try to move over? Should both parties slow? Should they still give at least 1.5m? Some or all of the above?
@JonnyUnforeseen
@JonnyUnforeseen 3 месяца назад
There has to be a catchy slogan like "Think! Don't drink and drive" but for numptys who overtake at bends. Something like "Don't be a Bellend when approaching a bend."
@ryancraig2795
@ryancraig2795 3 месяца назад
Lol
@ParallelSyntax
@ParallelSyntax 3 месяца назад
0:36 - The problem I have with "primary position" is that when I do that I often find it triggers driver into road rage with other motorists, and they end up doing something even more dangerous. From personal experience I find it's just less risky to try and keep left and just be prepared for stupid overtakes. Then again I live in a horrible area.
@simonhodgetts6530
@simonhodgetts6530 3 месяца назад
I try to avoid cycling on the roads these days - the lack of consideration given towards cyclists, horse riders and pedestrians by some drivers gets worse as each year passes.
@davidgeorge9233
@davidgeorge9233 3 месяца назад
I ride about 5000 miles a year and this happens every single time I go out. I don’t ride the gutter and adhere to all the rules I should as a cyclist but there are simply way too many people in charge of cars who cannot think more than a few seconds ahead, the number of times people will close pass to immediately slam on the brakes for a parked car for example. I must add that I see another issues and that’s with drivers who do adhere to the 1.5m rule but then also nearly have head on accidents with vehicles coming the opposite way, these vehicles it seems quite often seem incapable of slowing down (why should they I guess! ) and the driver overtaking the cyclist gets abuse for being on the wrong side of the road. It’s scary how many people cannot perform a simple overtake without creating an incident of some kind. I don’t know what the answer is, maybe more education during driver training would help, but fundamentally it requires a shift in people’s attitudes and that’s far harder to achieve.
@Cohen.the.Worrier
@Cohen.the.Worrier 3 месяца назад
They just don't care. Own the lane, just own the lane.
@ro63rto
@ro63rto 3 месяца назад
Ashley, what are your views on the reverse situation? Car travelling at the 20mph limit in SW London on a narrow two way road with constant traffic and 3 cyclists, not together, shoot down the middle because 20mph is not fast enough for them. They could not have been more than 2ft from the cars on either side.
@ihateunicorns867
@ihateunicorns867 3 месяца назад
Literally just this morning a car whizzed past me way too close only to hit a queue at traffic lights a few metres up the road. I overtook the queue and pulled into the cycle box at the front (which of course had a car sitting in it).
@syberracer2984
@syberracer2984 3 месяца назад
I drive coaches and a lot of the roads up here in The Lake District are very narrow, with often times not enough room for a large vehicle to pass by an oncoming car, let alone another large vehicle. Alongside the frequent blind corners, I never take any risks, even if a cyclist can see better than I can. Only go when YOU think it is safe to do so. Never rely on the judgement of others.
@shm5547
@shm5547 3 месяца назад
I would say it’s not appropriate for a coach to be on many of the roads in Lakeland. A minibus transit van is pushing it.
@Budai976
@Budai976 5 дней назад
Welcome to everyday life in Hungary. Here I know the routes where idiots will pass me close more frequently, so when I see other cars coming towards me in the opposite lane I occupy my lane so that he behind me don't even think to pass me close. I open and close quite spectacularly, so even an idiot will understand why I do it.
@jacobparry6212
@jacobparry6212 3 месяца назад
1:45 thought i recognised this clip. Its Abergavenny south Wales.
@rossmurrayfam1568
@rossmurrayfam1568 3 месяца назад
ive just been to Borth Beach in Wales
@Hdtjdjbszh
@Hdtjdjbszh 3 месяца назад
I have notice when I look more "sporty" I get less room on my bike, when I am on my old bike with panniers and a basket i tend to get more room on average
@caeserromero3013
@caeserromero3013 3 месяца назад
Not only was if really close, but it was at the narrowest point as oncoming traffic was actually over the centre line to pass parked cars. So there was less than one lane for 2 cars and a bike. Anyone who wasn't a total moron, would have waited a few seconds and then passed when it was safe... but not Mr Audi....
@TinyPigy282
@TinyPigy282 3 месяца назад
I witnessed a close pass the other day from a van infront. We were following the van for some distance and even when the road was clear, dry etc they were sitting 15-20mph below the speed limit. Then when they caught up to the cyclist they rushed the overtake and passed very close, over solid line too.
@getouttamyrowboat5658
@getouttamyrowboat5658 3 месяца назад
Had an ex call me a pu**y (obvious reasons why she's an ex)for refusing to overtake a cyclist when we were going uphill and through blind bends. Even after i explain my dad is a cyclist so as annoying as i do find them to be at times i refuse to risk their lives because I'd hate anyone doing it to my dad. Then a couple of months ago a mutual friend of ours told me that my ex has been given a driving ban. No prizes for guessing it was because a cyclist handed in a clip to the police of her passing them far too close. Poetic justice if you ask me. She'll be in for a longer ban soon as well because apparently she's still driving regardless of the ban.
@guessundheit6494
@guessundheit6494 3 месяца назад
Mark cycling lanes and put up jersey barriers. Any d@m@ge to cars will be the drivers' own fault. 0:15 - ALL city centres should have a 30kmh maximum. NOWHERE that cyclists and pedstrians go regularly should cars be able to go faster than that. 1:00 - Another case of mvrd3rbox "drivers" saying that vehicle price determines priority.
@spenceredwards859
@spenceredwards859 3 месяца назад
I was cycling at the weekend with my 3 year old on the back. Doing 16 mph in a 20mph zone in a busy town centre. Coach driver overtook me with less than a metre gap, we actually were sucked even closer towards the coach it was so close. He saved about 10 seconds on his journey as he stopped further up the road to let off passengers. I stopped and asked him politely if he thought he was too close. He had no idea what the distance should be and just laughed me off. One of his passengers then started shouting and swearing at me and my toddler, so I decided to cycle away. I really don't want to be filming and reporting this stuff as it will probably lose this guy his licence and job, but what else am I meant to do?
@spenceredwards859
@spenceredwards859 3 месяца назад
@Leidolfr that willl make getting to nursery and the shops a bit difficult. These are residential streets in an urban area under 5 miles, I'm not expecting to ride on a dual carriageway.
@wag-on
@wag-on 3 месяца назад
Scariest moment I've had was with a transit van with a trailer. They'd clearly forgotten about their trailer while finishing their overtake!
@ra4yu
@ra4yu 3 месяца назад
i have to say i think there is a large lack of education about how cyclists should behave on roads. I have cycled a lot and often you are totally buggered and critical thought is about 10 miles behind you but you have a lot of control over when people pass. You really shouldnt sit off to the side if you dont want people to pass, look for good spots and move over so the car drivers do it on your terms. Having said that some drivers are just idiots and will overtake you with your arm out trying to turn right.
@tonymc90
@tonymc90 3 месяца назад
So what do you suggest to solve the problem? In general, I shrug my shoulders, throw the odd wave after close passes, yesterday one close pass really shook me up. I get at least one close pass on most rides, but usually more. Drivers who watch your channel are unlikely to be the problem. I saw a video the other day suggesting that drivers should plan to follow cyclists first, then see when it’s safe to pass. I thought this was a good approach.
@Kieran.Robertson
@Kieran.Robertson 3 месяца назад
1. Better bike infrastructure. 2. Harsher penalties for law breakers.
@shm5547
@shm5547 3 месяца назад
3. Enforcement of existing road laws
@andrewgilbertson5356
@andrewgilbertson5356 3 месяца назад
My wife and I , out walk-in a country lane had a load of cyclist coming towards us. We got int Single file, now all of the bike riders did the right thing, even a bunch of them moved over and gave us space, apart from one idiot, he was the inside rider of a pair, the outside guy moved over but inside chap made a very close pass. Inches away. Seamed not to care. My wife was using poles and she had her elbow slightly out and felt the air of his pass. Bikes following all moved over nicely. Just the one idiot let the whole side down.
@smilerbob
@smilerbob 3 месяца назад
I have had similar on a shared path where the “lead” rider shouted “there are 8 of us” and proceeded to come passed full pelt, the remaining 7 slowed down and gave us space and care As with all road users, it isn’t the vehicle type but the attitude that is the problem and the attitude needs to change from everyone if the roads (and paths) are going to be safe for all
@jonescrusher1
@jonescrusher1 3 месяца назад
What's your point?
@frogsplorer
@frogsplorer 3 месяца назад
The road at the end of my street has a shared use pavement. Had many cyclist close pass me. Frightening and enraging
@chrisl1797
@chrisl1797 3 месяца назад
​@@jonescrusher1the mode of transport (car, van, lorry, bike or foot) is irrelevant. There are inconsiderate people that use ALL OF THEM.
@andrewgilbertson5356
@andrewgilbertson5356 3 месяца назад
@@frogsplorer Some do not even let you know, that they are there. When I biked to work I always rang my bell or said morning.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 3 месяца назад
rather than a car width, think of it as enough space so if the cyclist takes a spill, you can avoid hitting them.
@urbanshadow777
@urbanshadow777 3 месяца назад
You would think this is some of the worst I have seen all day but no. Just watched one on another channel where the wing mirror of a van just grazed the jacket of the cycling and the van was probably doing 30mph. Just absolutely shocking entitlement from some drivers.
@FobbixCycling
@FobbixCycling 3 месяца назад
I think there needs to be a big change to how driving offences are dealt with since in particular the police don't really do much at all (Referring to Derbyshire Constabulary and Nottinghamshire Police and their associated dashcam reporting channels (which also need improvement for static supporting images too)). In my experience I have had one really bad close-pass one last year, and the (Nottinghamshire) police just sent out a "love letter" to the offending vehicle/keeper. It would be much better if cycling clubs were the ones dealing with traffic offences related to cyclists. The police forces are very car-centric, and from my experience with reporting I don't think they even understand the highway code themselves.
@kitchencarvings4621
@kitchencarvings4621 3 месяца назад
I always leave 3 feet to my right (US) so that if somebody tries to pass me close, I can move over. This gives me an escape without running into the grassy shoulder, which is a guaranteed flat tire here where I live (European Puncture Vine or goatheads).
@brandonlee7382
@brandonlee7382 3 месяца назад
Alot of drivers are unaware of what they do wrong, they go past a cyclists like they are a leaf sticking out a bush. They have no idea about the cyclists point of view. I've noticed since the rules came out about leaving a gap I've personally been much more aware and leave a big gap, before i did try get past them when i tought i can fit through. I think teaching drivers that it's scary being a cyclist being pushed into the side of the road would be very beneficial. The thing about me is I've become anxious and maybe that's me getting older and wiser but anyway i tend to not be a risk taker anymore. Anyway im 22 and been driving for since i was 16 because i trained early because of my disabilities. Anyway I've been more anxious since 2020 because i thought i was gonna forget how to drive because of lockdown but now i know that was all in my head maybe i may have OCD.
@simonchambers4052
@simonchambers4052 3 месяца назад
I think the last rider could also have done better - the SUV had just made a lane change and he should have anticipated that the mini driver would move without checking mirrors properly - its too easy to make an assumption that just because you're not moving that there is nobody likely to be passing either side. I'd have held back just a touch.
@granddadmark7639
@granddadmark7639 3 месяца назад
Close pass drivers should be made to do a do day cycling on the same road
@mctrials23
@mctrials23 3 месяца назад
Its pretty much the only thing that would make them realise what its like and have some perspective. I would wager that for many of the drivers who face fines they just blame the cyclist and hate them even more as a result.
@Frohicky1
@Frohicky1 3 месяца назад
Operation Snap.
@joeytje50
@joeytje50 3 месяца назад
I propose having a sign on the back of your bike: "If I can scratch your paint, it's a close pass. *Give me space* "
@mattsmith4605
@mattsmith4605 3 месяца назад
Why is it so difficult to overtake a relatively slow vehicle less than 2 m long and about 0.5m wide?
@grahambonner508
@grahambonner508 3 месяца назад
Impatience mostly.
@robshorts
@robshorts 3 месяца назад
This is one of the reasons I sold my cycle, too many close passes. I did have a nasty accident when I was 15 so know what can happen. Other reasons may be more surprising to some which include other cyclists and pedestrians that are so engrossed in their smart phones that they are completely unaware of what is going on around them.
@WayneTulip-zm9gw
@WayneTulip-zm9gw 3 месяца назад
02:30 he had the balls to confront the Morrisons driver about the terrible overtake, I applaud him for that but honestly these days there are so many nutters out there, you just don’t know how people will react, always keep yourself safe, don’t say anything to anyone, don’t even look at anyone, just send the dash cam footage to the police and take it from there.
@stefansoder6903
@stefansoder6903 3 месяца назад
If it's a company like that I don't think there's any big risk of the driver starting to wield a knife or something. But with a dark BMW or Audi I would not do it...
@WayneTulip-zm9gw
@WayneTulip-zm9gw 3 месяца назад
Good point mate, I also wouldn’t do it to a bmw or to an Audi.
@dimdim14
@dimdim14 3 месяца назад
In somme mainland country's such as France the safe overtake distance for overtaking a cyclist is 1M in towns and city's and 1.5M outside of aglomerations
@shadybacon3451
@shadybacon3451 3 месяца назад
Admittedly I drive questionably sometimes, however, cyclists and horses are something I always make sure that I am only passing when I can leave enough space. I dont want to be responsible for potentially killing someone and aside from anything else they might fall on their own or something. There is a large amount of unpredictable behaviour and riding shown by many cyclists and horses can be very unpredictable, not all, but a good amount to be wary of even the best riders.
@chrisphillips4781
@chrisphillips4781 3 месяца назад
The highest use of harsh words I've used watching a video clip
@CarCapture
@CarCapture 3 месяца назад
5:05 That's aa 1 of less than 300 left Humber Hawk!
@fablolliesrock
@fablolliesrock 3 месяца назад
Some drivers get really triggered by cyclists moving out to turn right, or to take a specific lane, no matter how clearly signalled. Presumably we should stay on the left riding in circles🙄
@andyo1737
@andyo1737 3 месяца назад
Yeah I had one example where I signaled and moved out right. The driver *then* overtook me and glared at me through the side window as they passed. Then when they saw me actually turn right they held their hand out the window to apologise.
@CyclingSouthLincolnshire
@CyclingSouthLincolnshire 3 месяца назад
Get that a lot. They hate me moving right as I'm indicating. I've had road rage incidents due to signalling and positioning myself correctly.
@fablolliesrock
@fablolliesrock 3 месяца назад
@@andyo1737 An apology- wow! Small wins and better than being yelled at and punishment passed for being "in the middle of the road". Not sure I've ever had an apology but I did once have a kind motorcyclist come to my defence against a particularly aggressive cab driver.
@azer9237
@azer9237 3 месяца назад
The rule I always remembered when learning to ride bikes was a car door and a bit more when passing parked cars. Follow the same rule other way round and you're fine.
@philipgeorge7516
@philipgeorge7516 3 месяца назад
Sadly, people will just push past because they are in a hurry, at the earliest opportunity. Taking up primary position seems to just antagonise people who take no notice of the Highway Code, as you witnessed recently in your video with that woman who thought that you were riding dangerously??
@ryancraig2795
@ryancraig2795 3 месяца назад
Second video, I think that was a Porsche SUV that passed too close, wasn't it? Out for a ride yesterday I got passed a bit too close for comfort by a couple pickups, probably doing close to 80 km/h in a 60 zone. Where are people going in such a hurry on a Saturday morning?
@TerryNutkins3
@TerryNutkins3 3 месяца назад
I had an Audi driver give me a nice wide berth on an overtake they were even indicating when doing so, I thought to myself “see not all Audi owners live up to the stereotypes” they then continued on for the next half a mile until they were out of sight still indicating away 🤦‍♂️ “We can’t expect miracles now can we” 😂😂😂😂
@The-Audi-driver
@The-Audi-driver 3 месяца назад
In the velodromes they have a thin white line to stay in, go and practice there before trying it on the yellow lines for real
@spacerockerlightyears
@spacerockerlightyears 3 месяца назад
If safe I go to the other side of the centre line to pass cyclists, drivers behind seem confused when I do this, none follow my example!
@stephenclark9917
@stephenclark9917 3 месяца назад
It doesn't matter to the motorist if they are stuck at a red lighet downstream. MGIF is a priority!
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