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Do London's New Cycleways Actually Protect Cyclists? 

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Do London cycleways actually protect cyclists?
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@allanjmcpherson
@allanjmcpherson 7 дней назад
If I'm not mistaken, the naked bike ride is to draw attention to the vulnerability of cyclists on the road.
@janebaker966
@janebaker966 6 дней назад
No it's not! They just like displaying their willies.
@walidrazaq3395
@walidrazaq3395 6 дней назад
theres been uni study showing that wearing hi-vis clothes and a helmet dehumanises u in the eyes of motor vehicle drivers leading to them less space on the road and less careful/ collide with cyclists a lot more often
@miz4535
@miz4535 6 дней назад
@@walidrazaq3395 The methodology of that study was garbage though.
@ChrispyNut
@ChrispyNut 6 дней назад
@@walidrazaq3395 That's the opposite of my experience ... generally speaking. I don't "know" why, but I do feel as though I'm left more space when wearing hi-vis, maybe it's loss of "I didn't see them" excuse (there are several potential reasons).
@zilchica
@zilchica 6 дней назад
Exactly! And they also have them all over the world, it's not just a weird UK thing (in cities that are a lot more dangerous for cyclists too!)
@daanwilmer
@daanwilmer 7 дней назад
As a Dutchie, I have to say there's more to the Netherlands than just Amsterdam, and there are -cycle superhighways- bike paths everywhere!
@David-bi6lf
@David-bi6lf 6 дней назад
Yes and it's tragic that the Dutch have spent decades developing the safest and best designs and yet the UK seems so incapable of just copying them. Primarily as I see it because inevitably good quality cycle tracks need space and often requires a reduction in space for motor vehicles. Motor vehicles win 99% of the time so we end with rubbish solutions designed by someone that's never seen a bycycle squeezed into what little space is left.
@wibblywobbly99
@wibblywobbly99 6 дней назад
Problem with the UK is it's half arsed and massively expensive. All cycle lanes should be a different permanent colour and not the rubbish that fades like now.
@DarrenMansell
@DarrenMansell 6 дней назад
Is it true that you are only allowed to overtake Dutch people on the left?
@nataliatheweirdo
@nataliatheweirdo 6 дней назад
And you have little stair ramps for ur bikes to go down- that gave me a lot of joy
@OverSoft
@OverSoft 6 дней назад
@@DarrenMansell In general: yes. Or at least, it's expected that you overtake on the left, just like you would in a car.
@brettcarruthers8838
@brettcarruthers8838 7 дней назад
Cut to next year when Evan has had 4 more mini obsessions since the Cowboy bike and is actually now taking part in the naked bike ride and talking about benefits you were unaware of.
@papaquonis
@papaquonis 7 дней назад
Don't forget that Amsterdam, Copenhagen and any other "great cycling city" didn't start out that way. They've worked to get to this point for decades. But the benefit of that is that other cities can learn from all their experience. Just look at Paris, where they've upgraded their bike infrastructure massively in a relatively short amount of time and they've certainly surpassed London by now, but it's great to see that at least parts of the city is now fairly accessible to cyclists.
@MsPeabody1231
@MsPeabody1231 7 дней назад
They don't have Kensington and Chelsea.
@janebaker966
@janebaker966 6 дней назад
And the bloody Froggie cyclists are hell bent on mowing down pedestrians. The cars stop! The cyclists is don't.
@miz4535
@miz4535 6 дней назад
Yes but Netherlands largely got to a good spot within a decade. Fortunately for them they were starting from a base of lower car usage so it was easier, but with political will it doesn't take decades it takes maybe one decade at most. Problem is there is no political will.
@miz4535
@miz4535 6 дней назад
@@janebaker966 I'm guessing close to 100% of ped deaths are due to drivers.
@edipires15
@edipires15 6 дней назад
@@MsPeabody1231yes they have ( VIIe and VIIIe arrondissements)
@cassieoz1702
@cassieoz1702 7 дней назад
Good name change. Cycle Superhighway is just pointless hyperbole. Stop asking the marketing department for suggestions.
@simonmatthews7512
@simonmatthews7512 6 дней назад
Shouldn't it be a 'Gigahighway' now anyway?
@Barnaclebeard
@Barnaclebeard 6 дней назад
Naming things is literally what a hypothetical marketing department would be for. It would be incredibly absurd to pay for and host a marketing department, and then not ask it to name things.
@TheRagnartheBold
@TheRagnartheBold 6 дней назад
We have here the Fahrradautobahn, and everybody thinks wtf.
@cassieoz1702
@cassieoz1702 6 дней назад
@Barnaclebeard somewhat my point. Marketing is rapidly becoming the dirtiest word in my vocabulary as it becomes more strongly associated with 'deceit' and 'black-hole consumer of resources'.
@charisma-hornum-fries
@charisma-hornum-fries 6 дней назад
It's probably a copy of the ones we have in Denmark. We've had the cross-region lanes for years and they work fine. If they don't work out elsewhere that's probably because a copy isn't necessarily a good idea.
@anoukk_
@anoukk_ 6 дней назад
As a dutch person seeing the excitement over a simple cycle path with the little bicycle traffic lights is something else
@daphneschuring5810
@daphneschuring5810 3 дня назад
But for the English they going to our 70ties change.
@szofiaosborne8007
@szofiaosborne8007 6 дней назад
Just a note for future cycling, as a pedestrian: please stop for pedestrians at zebra crossings and at red lights during the crossing cycle. Im always careful when crossing the road, but a lot of people are young and dont pay attention and rely on the lights, and a bike can cause some damage!
@YngsdalHighers
@YngsdalHighers 6 дней назад
Also because then you're actually obeying the law instead of breaking it.
@szofiaosborne8007
@szofiaosborne8007 6 дней назад
@@YngsdalHighers yeah that too, but not everyone has read the highway code recently and those laws are very poorly enforced
@annesander61
@annesander61 5 дней назад
It's a pity that there are some badly behaved cyclist that fail to stop at red lights and designated pedestrian crossings that give cyclists a bad name. Almost every day I go into London I've seen several cyclists that seem to think that these basic road use laws don't apply to them. As someone who has mobility issues I cross where there are traffic lights whenever possible but even when I have the green light to cross I still have to watch out for selfish cyclists riding through the intersection straight at me.
@WhichDoctor1
@WhichDoctor1 4 дня назад
i never trust zebra crossing because cars often don't stop. I'll only set foot on one after i see the traffic starting to break
@rolo429
@rolo429 2 дня назад
Not just young people and/or people not paying attention - blind and visually impaired people! It's incredibly dangerous. Blind and VI people deserve to be able to travel independently and not be endangered by others' selfishness.
@OttoK_yt
@OttoK_yt 7 дней назад
the stairs at 04:29 have a channel beside the railing to allow a bike to be rolled up / down!
@wingedyera
@wingedyera 7 дней назад
I was going to say the same thing! I could clearly see the bike gutter. But I suppose if you're not used to them and don't often see them used you wouldn't recognize what theybare for
@pablocabezagarcia7421
@pablocabezagarcia7421 6 дней назад
There is a lift also just on the side. You can see it at 04:38 on the right
@evan
@evan 6 дней назад
ahh! I looked for ages on the RIGHT side, but I guess British drive-on-the-left mentality means they'll always be on your left. Good call
@dyseskytten1
@dyseskytten1 6 дней назад
@@evan The channel IS on the RIGHT - if you are coming from below. :) They should add one in each side. Most people are right handed.
@TheErador
@TheErador 5 дней назад
Lol thought y'all were just being masochists
@actua99
@actua99 5 дней назад
As a Dutchie, I cannot emphasize Dan's point enough: If other traffic is being an ***hole, your helmet will not save you. Also, the cycle paths are looking good. I've got plans to go to London next year with friends, I'll look into using them. Thanks!
@liamness
@liamness 6 дней назад
The thing is, you kind of experienced the best case scenario of cycling on a road like Kensington High Street, given you were all on e-bikes. If you can keep above a speed of about 12mph that really gives you a lot more latitude to stand your ground and make drivers give you space. If you go much slower though, a lot of drivers will just get immediately frustrated and push past regardless of how you are positioned. This is why segregated infrastructure is absolutely necessary, because not everyone is able to pretend to be a car.
@WhichDoctor1
@WhichDoctor1 4 дня назад
Yeah, especially when you're forced to break unexpectedly. it's a lot easier to get back up to speed on an ebike. If you're on a manual bike and you are forced to break the few extra seconds it takes to accelerate again means cars will just assume you've become a permanent road ornament and act like you never intent to move again. So breaking back into traffic becomes a constant battle. its very unfun. If you can keep with the flow you can avoid a lot of that. But being separated from cars is just infinity better
@speedstyle.
@speedstyle. 2 дня назад
E-bikes assist up to 25kph (15.5mph), which yeah is a reasonable speed for flowing with traffic. E-scooters only do 20kph (12.8mph), which doesn't sound so different but feels much less safe when the gap ahead opens up.
@AlexHR5459
@AlexHR5459 5 дней назад
There's a lot of roadcraft that you have to learn to be safe. I'd implore anyone not confident on the roads to find a training course. In almost every clip there are things your group could have done to be safer, especially when you're forced to cycle in traffic with drivers who are deliberately trying to make your life difficult. We need more people cycling so that more infrastructure is built, so please do get out there, but do it safely.
@xxwookey
@xxwookey День назад
Indeed, one doesn't realise how much one has learned over years of cycling so everything isn't scary/a surprise. This is a great reminder of what 'normal British cycling' feels like to most people who don't do it all the time.
@chrisogrady28
@chrisogrady28 7 дней назад
16:26 I know you might not be familiar with the laws in the UK yet but it's actually illegal to not smash off the wing mirror and kick the body panels on that Citroën c4 Picasso in such a situation
@ivoackermann15
@ivoackermann15 6 дней назад
witth video proof of this behavior i would actually call the police on that car.
@evan
@evan 6 дней назад
I missed that part of the highway code; my humblest apologies
@e79905
@e79905 6 дней назад
I had a mini heart attack for watching that scene.
@BarnardoPlays
@BarnardoPlays 6 дней назад
@@evan You could probably use footage of the incident to report the motorist for dangerous driving.
@evan
@evan 6 дней назад
@@BarnardoPlaysI’ll leave that to Jeremy Vine
@beattio
@beattio 6 дней назад
The worst thing about Kensington High Street (the scary stretch in the video) is that it USED to have a protected cycle lane, and so many people complained about it that they took it out!! Over in Chiswick the war to build CS9 lasted for YEARS and is stil very contraversial, because it required removing a bus lane to install, meaning that bus traffic now crawls along with all the other cars. It's very difficult to balance vehicle and cycle traffic in a city so limited with space, but if I had it my way I'd basically ban as much motor traffic as possible from Central London and make cycling the norm.
@reinl7
@reinl7 6 дней назад
As somebody who cycles down that same road in Kensington & Chelsea regularly... the lack of a cycle lane means that I am actually more of a hindrance for cars, because to ride safely you have to be at the centre of a lane and not let cars/buses pass you in places where there is not a lot of width to the road... e.g. if there is a car stopped on the side of that road, I have to occupy the middle of the second lane already around ~50m before the parked car. I have to behave assertively and cars are more slowed down than they would be otherwise... lose lose imo
@harrysmith3606
@harrysmith3606 2 часа назад
This is absolutely my experience too! I used to live in Chelsea and I would take Boris bikes often. To cycle through there safely you basically just have to hog the center of the lane intended for cars and try to ignore all the angry drivers who get stuck behind you. It's a situation that neither party wants or benefits from.
@rgxwrestlingmedia
@rgxwrestlingmedia 7 дней назад
Has the guy who put his hazards on to brake check you and swerve into you intentionally been reported to the police?
@evan
@evan 6 дней назад
Nope. You mean the one that did it to Heather on the motorway bit??
@rgxwrestlingmedia
@rgxwrestlingmedia 6 дней назад
@@evan yeah, that’s the one. There’s a case for reckless endangerment and they could (and should) get a fine and points on their license for that.
@evan
@evan 6 дней назад
@@rgxwrestlingmedia They could've just been having issues on the road and been inexperienced. Heck we were inexperienced cycling for one! The hazard lights tells me it was probably unintentional
@NotThatOneThisOne
@NotThatOneThisOne 6 дней назад
​@@evannot convinced. It's not normal to stop on what looks to be a circular. If you get confused, you pull off and turn around.
@6RadaR6
@6RadaR6 6 дней назад
Don't believe there was any malicious intent, just poor awareness of others and poor driving skill. "Reckless" is over the top
@Rachaelorly
@Rachaelorly 6 дней назад
Fully agree with Heather on the driving in London part. Lived here my whole life, been driving since I was 22, people always make fun of me for not driving more but if you have seen the absolute lunatics who drive in London, you wouldn't want to drive here either.
@fools_opinions
@fools_opinions 6 дней назад
Especially with public transport choices, there are so many options for avoiding having to drive for the most part.
@xxwookey
@xxwookey День назад
And the fact that it's very slow and frustrating most of the time. I have no idea why there are still so many people doing it.
@alexcooper4524
@alexcooper4524 5 дней назад
I actually love cycling in London on the roads with cars and for most part find it quite safe, if you respect the rules of the road. For me the most dangerous elements are other bike users overtaking on left, and pedestrians walking/standing in dedicated cycle lanes. The worst case of pedestrians in cycle lanes has been tourists on Westminster bridge, where ironically it is safer to cycle in road than on cycle lane.
@purple-cho
@purple-cho 6 дней назад
One thing which helped me with feeling safer when cycling in London was having a wing mirror attached to my handlebars to see what's going on behind me. Since I also drive (not in London if I can avoid it!) there's a kind of muscle memory in regularly checking the mirror, and that means I can more easily gauge when it's safe to signal that I'm turning or changing lanes. Also, as a kid I learned Cycling Proficiency and if it's available to adults too then I can absolutely recommend it. Truly essential skill set from what I recall. Learning to ride one-handed so the other hand can be signalling wasn't easy, as I recall, but I genuinely think it's not safe to cycle on roads if you're unable to signal what you're doing to other road users
@Torsin2000
@Torsin2000 6 дней назад
A mirror on the handlebar or the helmet.
@purple-cho
@purple-cho 6 дней назад
@@Torsin2000 interesting, this is the first I've heard of a mirror on the helmet. Instinctively that feels like I'd find it more distracting than on the handlebars, but can't know for sure unless I get a chance to try it. How do you find it?
@Torsin2000
@Torsin2000 6 дней назад
@@purple-cho searching anything, like amazon or a bike store, for 'mirror bike helmet'.
@bromptinowner763
@bromptinowner763 5 дней назад
​@@Torsin2000handlebar !!!
@Dixavd
@Dixavd 7 дней назад
I love your documantary-style videos. I had stopped watching your videos for a while until I was recommended one of your videos on housing and was very impressed. Keep it up.
@evan
@evan 6 дней назад
Glad you like them!
@stephenlee5929
@stephenlee5929 6 дней назад
Hi Folks, I think Dan was very brave. To realise you feel unsafe and stop is quite difficult, well done. Good you all kept you clothes on 😁😁 I think there maybe safer routes than you choose around Kensington. You-tube 'London cycle routes' did 'The best way to cycle to Richmond Park from Kensington' All his routes use either protected cycle lanes or quiet side roads. Great video
@miz4535
@miz4535 6 дней назад
"I think there maybe safer routes than you choose around Kensington." No there aren't, at least not ones that require massive detours. The route you mentioned is south of the river so that would involve crossing two bridges and travelling several km further since you follow the river which bends. The Thames path from Putney to Hammersmith bridge is also very cobbly and not comfortable to ride on at all.
@alr3764
@alr3764 6 дней назад
would've been braver of him to wear a helmet
@princesspinkblue
@princesspinkblue 6 дней назад
The part where youre cycling in the tunnel with music overlayed feels like Perks of a wallflower 😂
@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan 7 дней назад
From what I've seen in London it really depends on the particular route. The new cycleways are pretty good, but they aren't everywhere yet so you can still end up with journeys where you're dumped onto horrible terrifying roads. Each year the cycleway network expands and more of the journeys in the city become possible to safely and comfortably cycle, so within the relatively near future it would be fairly uncontroversial to call London 'cycle-friendly'.
@joepiekl
@joepiekl 7 дней назад
Yeah, I can't believe that the newest one is only cycleway 9. So in a city of 9 million people, there are just 9 proper cycle routes. You've gotta start somewhere, I guess.
@MsPeabody1231
@MsPeabody1231 7 дней назад
​@@joepieklHow safe it is to cycle in London depends on the borough and part of the borough. TFL has put in quiet ways which are streets where vehicular traffic is slower. These are safe to cycle on and actually safer than some of the initial CS routes.
@keeyan2166
@keeyan2166 6 дней назад
Exactly! If you pick out a good route to do for fun with a bunch of friends, you'll probably be fine. But if you are commuting and have no choice where A and B are, I think you're very likely to struggle.
@miz4535
@miz4535 6 дней назад
@@joepiekl Actually they aren't numbered by order of being made. There were meant to be 12 of them numbered like a clock originally, but most weren't built. So there aren't actually even 9 of these high quality tracks, although there are more ones in general of varying quality.
@a1white
@a1white 6 дней назад
There are also lots of quiet connected low traffic routes which are filtered to motor traffic, such as C10, C14 that aren't compteltey segregated but are quiet and pleasant. High Street Kensington is the worst of London
@a1white
@a1white 6 дней назад
Evan, I recommend route planners like cycle travel to avoid nasty roads (though I know Hight St. Kensington is difficult to avoid if you're going that way). I live in Greenwich and cycle daily, have done for over 15 years. It has improved so much in that time. C4 is my daily route and it is incredible. Enjoy exploring London by bike and keep safe🙂
@evan
@evan 6 дней назад
Yeah I knew there were longer safer ways to go but I wanted the “true” mixed experience of cycling in the city, terror and all. Greenwich is proper nice cycling tho :)
@a1white
@a1white 6 дней назад
@@evan Yes, absolutely it’s good you showed a real world experience and helped shame RBK&C
@ALZulas
@ALZulas 6 дней назад
I enjoy that the auto captioning showed "cycle paths" as "psychopaths" 😂
@simonmatthews7512
@simonmatthews7512 6 дней назад
Really? I so want that to be true 🙂
@JackOfHarts96
@JackOfHarts96 6 дней назад
The rest of London: Cycle paths Kensington and Chelsea: Psychopaths
@vkdrk
@vkdrk 5 дней назад
YT is referring to the average cyclists in the UK lol
@MatthewBrannigan
@MatthewBrannigan 6 дней назад
The quality of production of your vids are very high at the best of times, but you knocked this one out of the park, it really looked amazing on my 65" TV!
@evan
@evan 6 дней назад
Thank you!
@humza890
@humza890 6 дней назад
Here's a useful tip: Leave an arms width gap between the bike and pavement curb. It means that cars are less likely to try and 'squeeze' past you.
@metaphysicalfuck
@metaphysicalfuck 6 дней назад
You seem to take the bike, so I'll ask Isn't it better to just ride on the road? I mean, the roads are now capped at 20mph in most places and these rental bikes to reach that speed and are capped to it. If a car wants to go past, I'll let them take the risk of invading the incoming way. I say this as a car driver and just once bike driver
@miz4535
@miz4535 6 дней назад
@@metaphysicalfuck Most drivers disregard 20mph on main roads.
@metaphysicalfuck
@metaphysicalfuck 6 дней назад
@@miz4535 Oh I know full well, I drive with the limiter on to avoid getting pics taken. But driving in the middle puts them at risk moreso than you, doesn't it? Asking ignorantly, as I may start cycling to work
@miz4535
@miz4535 6 дней назад
@@metaphysicalfuck It definitely is worth taking the lane when they can't overtake safely, yeah. But I disagree it is better to cycle on the road vs safe cycle paths, especially main roads. There are increasing number of roads inside LTNs which have lower motor traffic making them pretty safe too, despite a lack of a cycle path.
@TheRealE.B.
@TheRealE.B. 6 дней назад
Person who's accustomed to cycling through American hellscapes: "Kensington and Chelsea look fine, actually."
@evan
@evan 6 дней назад
Lol
@delftfietser
@delftfietser 6 дней назад
It's the car speeds and the close passing that are off-putting. I guess it gets better with repeated exposure though the physical risk remains.
@TheRealE.B.
@TheRealE.B. 6 дней назад
@@delftfietser The car speeds looked pretty tame compared to even my part of the U.S., where people from the worse parts of the U.S. complain about the "low" speeds. I agree that some of the passing maneuvers in the video were sketchy, though.
@MissesLykaa
@MissesLykaa 5 дней назад
Funnily enough, as a Dutch person i feel relatively comfortable cycling in many other cities. I have cycled in london before, and didn't mind it. I have also cycled a lot in Glasgow, which was nicer than i expected
@jjmqu
@jjmqu 6 дней назад
Lime bikes are the worst thing for people who don't cycle normally. The speed boost can kick in at times when you need to stop.
@evan
@evan 6 дней назад
They’re 30kg. So braking is NOT quick and is scary. That and like you said, the motor kicks in SO suddenly even on turns which is not pleasant. Heather wants to ebike more just “not on a lime bike”
@petitkruger2175
@petitkruger2175 4 дня назад
The most annoying part of it is that Kensington High Street was relatively recently completely rebuilt with custom street furniture and larger sidewalks. But they didn't add cycle lanes even though the road is definitely wide enough.
@isabelsilva2116
@isabelsilva2116 7 дней назад
I was in London in May and I was so terrified watching cyclists because they had to share with your double decker buses and scooters and motorcycles along with cars while squeezing between all of them!!! I'm from Los Angeles and our treatment of cyclists is no better so I have mad respect for you and your friends documenting how much work needs to be done to keep cyclists safe! Love your vids about London keep it up!
@TheEulerID
@TheEulerID 5 дней назад
To put some numbers on it, in 2022 there were 7 cyclists killed in London. In 2010-2014, it averaged 13 per year. Proportionate to their numbers, the biggest danger comes from heavy goods vehicles and buses. When I look up statistics for Los Angeles, I can find them for Los Angeles County in 2022, when 26 cyclists were killed. In overall terms, there were a total of 102 people killed on the roads of London in 2022 as against 312 in Lost Angeles. One of the big differences is simply that many more people in London use public transport. Of course there are a lot more that are seriously injured, but it's more difficult to make comparisons, especially between countries, due to how such things are defined and reported. Fatal accidents are more binary. nb. The Netherlands is much lauded, but in 2022 there was a huge 40% increase in cycling fatalities with an increase to 291. For the first time ever, deaths per million km cycled was higher in the Netherlands than the UK, although it's important to note that the demographics are different. Many older people cycle in the Netherlands, and over half of all cycling deaths in the country were people of the age of 65. It seems that older people riding eBikes is a major driver in this increase (and, of course, the Dutch almost universally refuse to wear cycling helmets).
@johnnevada46
@johnnevada46 6 дней назад
Cycling on the cycleways is fun and easy. But cycling on streets with cars needs practice, confidence, and skills (especially if you do not have a driving license). You can get these skills by watching RU-vid videos or paying for classes on how to cycle in traffic. In fact, going out with a cycling instructor on the streets of London would make a good video.
@cyrielwollring4622
@cyrielwollring4622 6 дней назад
Dutchman here, those cycleways look like our fietspaden. The concrete curb that seperates driveway is simple and effective; a motorist will feel when he or she crosses it. I would not cycle in Kensington, too dangerous. The only thing you have pay attention here in the Netherlands are E-bikes, fat bikes and mopeds on the cycleway.
@Cycling.Doughnut
@Cycling.Doughnut 5 дней назад
High curbs do protect cyclists from cars/other vehicles, but they are one of the worst enemies for bicycles. In case of a head-on or other dangerous situation, you have nowhere to "run".
@TomikaArome
@TomikaArome 6 дней назад
This was thoroughly entertaining but also very insightful to me, even as a Londoner who regularly likes to cycle and advocates for it. I've loved cycling since I was a child. I cycled to secondary school as a teenager, albeit in a small town, nothing like London, but I gained the confidence to cycle very early on, so it's very easy for me to forget the stress/anxiety that most people have about cycling among traffic and on roads. I thought I knew this fact very well, but it hits harder actually seeing the terror that your group went through cycling down Kensington High Street and how true the phrase "build it and they will come" is when applied to segregated cycle lanes. My borough of Brent is also pretty notorious for lacking decent cycling infrastructure that even though I live in London, I find myself constantly surprised how good the rest of the city can be. I hope this continues to develop positively in years to come!
@beltingtokra
@beltingtokra 6 дней назад
If everyone using the roads was considerate and kept eachother safe and followed the rules (including cyclists btw), i would consider using a bike for my 3 mile drive to work. But there's no way I'd cycle, even driving in a big city is terrifying.
@justcomments
@justcomments 6 дней назад
Too many cyclists forget that pedestrians have a right to cross the road safely too. To be fair I’ve had more good encounters with cyclists than bad in recent years, but there’s always some doubt for me
@IndigoMayRoe
@IndigoMayRoe 6 дней назад
Evan, I want you to know something I learned when I lived in Holland. On the first set of steps in the video that took you down to the riverside cycleway, the groove beside the steps is designed for you to put your bike wheels in (with hands on brakes). So you can use the groove as a ramp for your bike while you go down the steps next to the groove. Looking out for this feature will make your cycling easier.
@am53n8
@am53n8 7 дней назад
When I visited london a few months ago my dutch ass thought it was a great idea to grab one of those bikes to get back to the hotel at 2am- and it was. Looking at traffic during the day tho, I can't say I felt comfortable or confident enough to try
@makelisanotwar
@makelisanotwar 5 дней назад
Really enjoyed watching this video, so recognizable as a Dutch cyclist in London! I work as a bike tour guide, so I'm regularly herding groups of Dutch tourists along these bike lanes. If you ever want to join on a bike tour or chat to a group of Dutchies who regularly cycle around London: you're more than welcome to join us sometime!
@ChristopherDraws
@ChristopherDraws 6 дней назад
Really interesting video, and I appreciate the effort you put into making this. I was disappointed to see your friends merrily cycling through zebra crossings when a pedestrian is using it (instance of this @6.45 in video). In UK law, pedestrians have priority at zebra crossings, and even cyclists must stop to allow them to finish crossing. It's so important, especially in busy cities, for all road users to understand the priorities and laws etc., because it then makes more pleasant ways of travelling such as cycling and walking much safer and more appealing.
@janebaker966
@janebaker966 6 дней назад
Even more blatant and aggro in Paree.
@doddleoddle
@doddleoddle 6 дней назад
we always stopped! The light was turning orange :)
@NotThatOneThisOne
@NotThatOneThisOne 6 дней назад
@6.45 is a full width pelican crossing and the pedestrians are crossing to the island next to it.
@Afrobrit
@Afrobrit 6 дней назад
It's a free country blah blah blah, but "fairweather cyclists" are a massive danger to themselves and others. It takes a while to learn how to cycle in London...
@spikethea2630
@spikethea2630 6 дней назад
One was a amber traffic crossing, the other was cycle zebra crossing it literally had the blue lane going through it
@op4l4
@op4l4 6 дней назад
You could have avoided the whole of the Hammersmith Roundabout by staying on the new Cycle way on the north side (so by going the opposite way that cars are turning around). The problem is that to reach the start of the cycleway, you need to get off your bike just before the roundabout and use the pedestrian crossing to get to it, as it’s on the right side of the road. This is a great example of what we are dealing with: patchy, unintuitive infrastructure. We have understood long ago that making a road/street intuitive (where people naturally understand where they should be to go to where they want and who has priority) is what makes it safe for drivers (or rather for vehicles bodywork, as it is relatively safe for drivers regardless). The same obviously applies to bikes, but somehow it’s not taken into account, especially when it’s the most critical: i.e. when cycle ways start or end. They are about to do the same mistake with the other intersection between Hammersmith & Fulham and Kensington & Chelsea on a west/east route. The new cycleway planned around Shepherd’s Bush green and the Holland Park roundabout (which obviously will abruptly start/stop at the border with K&C), will have an "entrance" from the right most lane of Holland Park avenue, requiring Cyclists to go through two lanes of traffic, and then abruptly turn right onto a pavement/traffic island.... F*** K&C, when they are proven solutions to reduce collisions between cyclists and motor vehicles and you deliberately choose to ignore them for political reason, you should be held liable.
@humza890
@humza890 6 дней назад
6:43 For future note, if there's a pedestrian on a zebra crossing, you should stop and let them finish crossing. For cycling in general, it's a good idea to learn about car theory test. As the laws around cars also apply to bikes, so you'll know how to navigate things like a roundabout.
@ado543
@ado543 6 дней назад
What zebra crossing? The one at 6:45 is a traffic light controlled junction.
@humza890
@humza890 6 дней назад
@@ado543 Go to exactly 6:42. I believe Evan has cut out the part where a few of them cycled through a zebra crossing. If you listen carefully, you can hear the sudden audio change, meaning he used RU-vid editing tool to cut out the section. When I watched it, that part of the video was still there.
@chrisogrady28
@chrisogrady28 7 дней назад
BTW your helmet needs to be your forehead, it should be tilted way further down so the top is in your peripheral vision
@evan
@evan 6 дней назад
Abso! I think the issue is I have an abnormally large noggin and I honestly think I need to size up, but they're sold out now :(((((
@TheEulerID
@TheEulerID 7 дней назад
So, nobody is going to stop for the pedestrian on the zebra crossing @6:45? *** Update *** Evan has removed the three seconds of video I referred too, and there is a sudden jump cut, so please bear that in mind when commenting.
@MsPeabody1231
@MsPeabody1231 7 дней назад
Yeah I noticed that as well. Most commuting cyclists know to stop or go around children or old people. I do have to say female fair weather cyclists don't stop and can be very rude about it when you tell them to stop so they don't run over your small child who is in the middle of the road.
@Argomundo
@Argomundo 6 дней назад
Bikes arnt cars, people can navigate around each other. This doesnt mean cyclists have a free license to be dcks
@johndent8813
@johndent8813 6 дней назад
Yeah - spotted that as I watched the video and was a little shocked by it.....
@DarrenMansell
@DarrenMansell 6 дней назад
People get confused about who is supposed to stop for who. It needs making clearer with bigger lights and signage. If you're new to the infrastructure it can be confusing.
@li_tsz_fung
@li_tsz_fung 6 дней назад
@@Argomundo Bikes should still try to stop for people or get around people. But I think in that case, maybe there's enough time for them to quickly get through the crossing before the pedestrian reach there
@tuxcatjodi
@tuxcatjodi 7 дней назад
LOVE THIS ❤️ ❤❤ 10 pm Central time on Sunday in Canada, SO worth the wait - thank you 😊
@skaterpichu
@skaterpichu 7 дней назад
I love your positivity. I’m here like… I think Evan missed his Sunday deadline. Your like ITS STILL SUNDAY SOMEWHERE!!
@shannadowning9229
@shannadowning9229 7 дней назад
Great job on the video and kudos for hanging in there and getting it posted on Sunday. (here in TX at least) Sweet dreams.
@BarnardoPlays
@BarnardoPlays 6 дней назад
14:50 just go straight over. There's a bike lane ahead and you're in a pack of cyclists ahead of the cars, you're not competing for lane space as the lights turn. Definitely the cycle ways are better but I feel as though some better experience for how to ride confidently on roads would help a lot make the rougher parts smoother. Ultimately until the UK's road infrastructure is totally overhauled cyclists will need to be able to confidently and safely share roads with motorists - and in any circumstance, a cyclist is never obligated to use the bike lane instead of the rest of the carriageway - don't be bullied to the margins when it makes you less safe.
@speedstyle.
@speedstyle. День назад
It was only green for left turns, the traffic _from_ the left has a green too, so you can't just cut across.
@BarnardoPlays
@BarnardoPlays День назад
@@speedstyle. ah, I didn't see that the lights were regulating a left only in the camera cuts. My mistake.
@sarabaldeschwieler7763
@sarabaldeschwieler7763 7 дней назад
We’re going to have a few days in London next month, having watched this maybe we’ll rent some bikes and hop on a cycle way! Thanks for showing that it can be good.
@BernardBakker
@BernardBakker 2 дня назад
A few things often forgotten when comparing the Netherlands to ‘less bike-friendly’ parts of the world are: * Dutch traffic laws make a distinction between ‘stronger’ road users (ie: motorised traffic) and ‘weaker’ road users (ie: cyclists, pedestrians and low-powered e-bikes). When an accident occurs between a motorised vehicle and a cyclist, the driver of the ‘stronger’ vehicle is automatically (with only a few exceptions) liable for at least 50 percent of damages resulting from this accident, even if the accident was caused by a mistake made the cyclist. Reasoning is that driving a motorised vehicle comes with an added responsibility for the safety of others. * The Dutch view the bicycle as, just, another mode of transport. Until 1941, cyclist had to pay a road tax and the Dutch equivalent of the UK’s Automobile Association is, historically, called ‘the Dutch Union of Cyclists’. * In Dutch primary schools, traffic education is a compulsory part the curriculum, most Dutch schoolchildren take a traffic-exam (on their bike) when they are around 11 / 12 years of age. At least then they know how to conduct themselves in traffic (not that they always do). In Dutch driving lessons, a lot of time is spend on how to interact with other road users, especially with cyclists. And for our friends from abroad, who like to try cycling in the Netherlands (in Amsterdam or anywhere else), please bear in mind that most Dutch cyclists aren’t leisurely biking around the country, they are commuting to or from work, trying to get to that dentist appointment in time or ….. Participating in traffic whilst not knowing how to ride a bicycle, might be ‘funny’, but you will, almost certainly, get remarks about this from other cyclists (and they won’t be subtle). So please, know how to use a bike and don’t be a nuisance to other road users.
@Arjay404
@Arjay404 6 дней назад
One issue I saw with most of the route you rode on is that there were very few destinations on the route. It was mostly just a bunch of homes, which is fine if what you wanted to do is go visit a friend, but what if you wanted to go buy some groceries, clothes or a box of screws? There were very few shops along the way, especially for the first 2/3 of the route. Cycle routes that go on side streets are good for getting to the other side of the city, but there also needs to be good routes that bring you directly to destinations.
@djs98blue
@djs98blue 6 дней назад
It’s illegal for cyclists not to give way to pedestrians waiting to cross the road on a designated crossing. At about 6.42 you all completely ignored the waiting/crossing pedestrian. Having experienced this as a pedestrian with my son all down birdcage walk yesterday I wish more London cyclists would behave properly and safely.
@David-bi6lf
@David-bi6lf 6 дней назад
They go through a couple of zebras and then a signalled crossing. Not sure where you see an issue here. On the zebra there was one person crossing from the other side many metres from the cyclists and no others waiting. Had the pedestrian been directly in the path of the cyclists then it would be a different story. At the signalled crossing there were some waiting however the light for cycling was not red so they have done nothing illegal.
@djs98blue
@djs98blue 6 дней назад
Highway Code 195 states that cyclists can ride across the part of the zebra crossing on the carriageway as long as they give way to pedestrians crossing OR waiting to cross. Look at 6.44 in the video. A pedestrian is actually crossing and they all cycle across seemingly oblivious. Legally, if they hit her it would be their fault, as the onus is on cyclists like cars to approach with caution, look across, and travel at a speed expecting to stop (that’s how I drive and cycle over zebra crossings). Of course most pedestrians don’t suddenly run out into bikes but eg children suddenly run and it would be their fault legally.Just trying to keep people safe. As I said, saw this loads in London yesterday but the better cyclists looked out and stopped and waved us across. Cycling safely is not a one way street - pardon the pun!
@giselavaleazar8768
@giselavaleazar8768 6 дней назад
This London experience is completely alien to me. I live in Lelystad, Netherland and even in this country we stand out with an insane number of bicycle bridges, so we hardly have any traffic lights to deal with, being in a car or on a bike. Tunnels (we have those too) are much to be preferred though.
@GuanoLad
@GuanoLad 4 дня назад
Something I've always wanted to do is cycle the old abandoned railway lines that have been turned into scenic routes.
@nish663
@nish663 7 дней назад
I have huge issues with bikes like the cowboy. They are terrible for maintenance. Full of proprietary parts, so good luck if the company gets into trouble in any way. Integrating things like that looks nice... but is terrible for maintenance or even the environment.
@evan
@evan 6 дней назад
Well it's the same with Apple computers; there's a trade-off with the pros and cons that are up to the rider to decide whether or not they're worth it. You'd be hard-pressed to find a nicer-looking e-bike on the road, but at a cost to faith in the longevity of the brand.
@davidbray5982
@davidbray5982 6 дней назад
​@@evanIt's horses for courses. A belt drive is stronger and lower maintenance than a chain, your belt will last probably 10x longer than my chain, but when it does break it's a bit of a job to replace, unlike a chain which is not too difficult to replace, probably 10x easier than a belt. Most bike owners could probably do it themselves if they put their mind to it. If you know you will always take your bike to a shop for any maintenance, then a belt is a really great option, if you like doing that sort of thing yourself, then you'd probably prefer a chain. Different strokes for different folks.
@paulharvey5097
@paulharvey5097 6 дней назад
@@davidbray5982 In London the Cowboy will get stolen before anything has a chance to break.
@ChristiaanHW
@ChristiaanHW 6 дней назад
as a Dutch person it hurt me to see you guys struggling to get the bikes down the stairs in the beginning, while the stairs has that cutout on the side where you're able to put the wheels of the bike in. it makes traversing stairs so much smoother. and the mentioning a helmet is a must when cycling feels kinda weird. but then i remember that outside The Netherlands and a few other European cities, cycling is indeed dangerous. so yes, in most places a helmet is advisably (at least for now)
@simonmatthews7512
@simonmatthews7512 6 дней назад
Cycle in London? Sorry, I'm in the "I wouldn't even drive in London" crew. Roll on teleporters.
@fools_opinions
@fools_opinions 6 дней назад
When I moved there I saw the traffic on the drive in to London and immediately decided to leave my bike in my mates bike shed and use the tube etc from then on.
@jonpeterson5657
@jonpeterson5657 6 дней назад
I do both and cycling is usually less stressful than driving!
@TheRealE.B.
@TheRealE.B. 6 дней назад
More people cycle in London than drive, if I recall. Most people are in the, "I wouldn't drive in London" crew.
@Grizzly01-vr4pn
@Grizzly01-vr4pn 6 дней назад
@@jonpeterson5657 Damn right. And less stressful than bus/tube/trains as well!
@coraliepalmer5778
@coraliepalmer5778 5 дней назад
I cycled in Rotterdam on my brothers bike (which was far too big for me) on the hottest day of the year. It was 40 degrees and an unforgettably boiling experience. I wasn't scared of cars but I was terrified of the moped type vehicles driving past in the cycle lanes.
@sjm5933
@sjm5933 6 дней назад
But at like 15:36 didnt you also go through a red light? I agree Drivers can be bad but sometimes cyclists dont follow same rules
@evan
@evan 6 дней назад
no I stopped there as it was a red light. The next clip is quite after. There was like 2.5 hours of footage
@YngsdalHighers
@YngsdalHighers 6 дней назад
​@@evan Did your sponsored bike come with a groundbreaking instantaneous braking system? Your wheel is on the line as it cuts with no indication of you stopping.
@AlexHR5459
@AlexHR5459 5 дней назад
@@YngsdalHighers that's how it kinda looks to me
@mindless-pedant
@mindless-pedant День назад
Sometimes?
@DiceSully
@DiceSully 6 дней назад
Agree on the enjoy travel again part. When I started cycling to work about a year ago, using a Santander bike subscription, I felt like the city opened up to me. No longer put off going somewhere because of a hot/crowded tube or bus, just now grab a bike and go.
@edithnackers7127
@edithnackers7127 6 дней назад
I absolutely loved this video. I am a cycling advocate because being car free helped me afford a house and I am so much healthier 🏡
@stacker63
@stacker63 3 дня назад
Evan this video is STELLAR my GOODNESS another amazing documentary style film that I can rewatch so MUCH!! so nice to see heather, dan, dodie and luke of course too
@ciara1045
@ciara1045 6 дней назад
i now see why you wanted to take your time with this video evan! really brilliant content and incredible production value, I'm glad you took the time over it :) also lovely to see dodie and luke more chilled out on youtube again
@robertrawley1115
@robertrawley1115 7 дней назад
*Evan, if you do a follow up video I'd be interested in cycling after dark.* Now in June, It's light until 11:00 as I recall from a few years ago. I'm returning in November when as I recall it's getting dark at 3:30. Curious your thoughts and whether you are riding at night?
@MsPeabody1231
@MsPeabody1231 7 дней назад
It's not light to 11pm in London. The longest day it was light until 10pm.
@doddleoddle
@doddleoddle 6 дней назад
GOD THIS VIDEO IS A MASTERPIECE GETTING EMOTIONAL
@djs98blue
@djs98blue 6 дней назад
You should (to remain alive!) look behind and hand signal when moving out across out of traffic (eg to get in right hand lane or avoid obstacles). Look at the Highway Code. If you can’t cycle straight ahead, look behind and hand signal then probably stay off the roads. Just trying to keep people safe.
@NotThatOneThisOne
@NotThatOneThisOne 6 дней назад
That doesn't appear to be an issue in the video, so your point is?
@djs98blue
@djs98blue 6 дней назад
​@@NotThatOneThisOne Look at 16.26. I think Heather (?) veers around that stupid car with its hazards on when it stops in front of her path. In fairness, she does stop and look back but makes no hand signal as she sets off again and seems to wobble in front of a car behind while the car in front tries to cuts her up. That driver is clearly being dangerous but it can help to give clear hand signals to let other drivers know what you are going to do and what is going on. This means being able to look over your shoulder, then hand signal and change lanes/turn without wobbling. I can see earlier in the video she does look over her shoulder to keep an eye on traffic but no hand signal while changing lanes isn't great - like driving without indicating but all the other vehicles can easily kill you. Just trying to keep people watching safe.
@TiberiusWallace
@TiberiusWallace 4 дня назад
Btw, I'll break into helmet comments - if you're choosing a helmet you don't want an aerodynamic thing in a city. You want a skate/bmx type one because they're far more protective from all sides and have thicker protection in the inside. Chose a fluorescent one or a black one and put reflective tape on the back. I've suggest gel palm gloves as well in case you come off and if you're super worried a pair of elbow pads. everyone worries about helmets but you're most likely to break your elbow or wrist in a city or down bike accident.
@clmrsmn
@clmrsmn 6 дней назад
dodie and luke in the same video in the year of out lord 2024. this is a very big day for a certain type of teen in 2015
@BronzeManul
@BronzeManul 6 дней назад
Love this! Super interesting to see an 'outside pespective' on how London is for casual cycling. I do think there's a opportunity to do a video comparing commuting options for a few different commutes (maybe a few different persona's? Like someone who lives in Camden, someone who lives in East London, someone commuting from the home counties eg. Maids, etc.?). I think the unevenly distributed/inconsistent cycling infrastructure becomes a lot more of a blocker when looking at commuting where the journey has to be every day during rush hour and where there's a lot less choice in the route someone would have to take every single day.
@user-fo9bv2mm1g
@user-fo9bv2mm1g 5 дней назад
Until drivers receive stiff penalties for dangerous driving, nothing will change.
@annieinwonderland
@annieinwonderland 6 дней назад
In Australia we have a law about giving cyclists 1m space and cyclists have to respect the road rules.
@Batters56
@Batters56 6 дней назад
It’s supposed to be 1.5m here.
@annieinwonderland
@annieinwonderland 6 дней назад
@Batters56 thanks for the correction mate 😊
@Batters56
@Batters56 6 дней назад
@@annieinwonderland For clarity, “here” being the UK!
@SmallDisasters
@SmallDisasters 6 дней назад
At 16:15 you're actually supposed to ride onto the pavement, then cross over at the pedestrian crossing and rejoin a bidirectional bike lane on the north side of Hammersmith station rather than go around the roundabout. It's a terribly confusing junction though so can see how you went that way. And if you want to go towards Fulham rather than Chiswick, well then you are screwed.
@speedstyle.
@speedstyle. 2 дня назад
For Fulham (or Hammersmith Bridge) you can cycle round on the pavement, there are shared path signs. There's no real cycle lane going south of course but it lets you avoid the gyratory
@TiberiusWallace
@TiberiusWallace 4 дня назад
Painted lanes are seriously scary. They tend not to be the coloured antiskid tarmac like you get in bus lanes and are just road marking paint which is slippy enough when it's not raining.
@TheBillBomb
@TheBillBomb 6 дней назад
I found this very nostalgic. I cycled most of that route every week day for 15 years. I think you missed the main cycle route through Hyde park and the no cycle route studio walk down the back of Kensington palace and past the elephant pub that brings you out by the design museum. You definitely missed the contra flow cycle path missing out Hammersmith roundabout.
@KateVeeoh
@KateVeeoh 6 дней назад
It takes a mentality shift and lots of government/council investment, but it absolutely pays off. We always had a cycling culture here in Belgium, but the infrastructure has vastly improved in many places (still quite a way to go). Combined with our appalling traffic, it's really made people see cycling as a viable commuting option. We now sometimes get stuck in bike traffic jams haha 😅 (also, companies pay you like 27 cents per km if you come to work by bike).
@sistermary1107
@sistermary1107 5 дней назад
As a dutchy having bikes in London with a full excursion of other Dutch teens through Hyde park it definitely wasn't as safe as we were used to. Currently living and using a bike highway and definitely not what the London highways are like. Mine is straight far removed from traffic when it can be wide and you can priority instead of the cars. But I'm happy to see that London seems to be safer for cyclists now. Cycling does and a little fun to a commute, even if it's just the little things and the weird things like everyone getting soaked on a rainy June day, or birds in march or just having time to watch the sun rise over a river.
@laurengutermuth2234
@laurengutermuth2234 7 дней назад
This is such a great video! Thinking about cycling during my trip this fall now! Only on the cycleways though.
@durabelle
@durabelle 6 дней назад
It's always nice to see more safe infrastructure being built for cycling. Some car drivers will oppose out of whatever reason, but in general it's a win-win for both to separate bicycles and cars. It makes it safer for the cyclists, which in turn can lead into more drivers leaving their cars at home and hopping on their bikes instead, reducing traffic. I live in the South-West UK and cycle everywhere, and although they've added more bicycle lanes here too over the years it's still very patchy. Plus the lanes that exist are constantly used for parking cars, there's potholes, rubbish, puddles etc. The few good cycle lanes I happily use are all new, well maintained, and have bollards separating them from car lanes. But because they've only built those on a couple of roads they are not heavily used yet, so you hear drivers complain that they just take space from cars for no reason. I don't know how it can be a surprise that the first proper bicycle lanes don't get used as much, it's almost as if we need to get to them safely too, and they need to lead where we are going.. You have to secure the whole route first before the users appear. I use my bike to get from A to B to C, between home, changing work locations, and shops etc. Never just for fun. So I can only use the bicycle lanes when they happen to be on my route. And even then only if they're in a safe condition.
@ridefree4076
@ridefree4076 5 дней назад
Hi, glad you did this Evan! I'm not a Londoner but I am a committed daily bike rider, and I've heard about Kensington & Chelsea's attitude and the illegal removal of that bike lane :( In most cities cycling is absolutely fine, it just depends where you ride, you have to pick your routes carefully. I just wanted to suggest you get some Bikeability training. It's not to teach you how to ride a bike, you clearly know that, but that scary stretch could have been quite a bit less scary, and a lot more safe, if you all knew about proper road positioning etc. which what really makes a difference for safety (as opposed the the very small difference a helmet might make).
@sebastien79a
@sebastien79a 6 дней назад
Awesome video! I've never wanted to cycle in London because of the infrastructure not being suited for it. This is a really positive video to showcase where it works well! There's still more work to do but would be great to see more cycle paths where road space permits.
@TheRainbowCoach
@TheRainbowCoach 5 дней назад
Thanks for this vid from a Dutch cyclist. Many years ago I was a researcher in the English countryside and I cycled everything/everywhere. That was really scary at many a time, because there are just 'roads' and cars not expecting a bike. And you would end up on a big road everywhere in no time, really weird. But it still was good fun and really helpful in getting to know the area.
@a1white
@a1white 6 дней назад
Yes, you highlighted the ONE problem with cycling in London Kensington and Chelsea. Evil Borough with awful drivers.
@sharkwater236
@sharkwater236 5 дней назад
As a dutchie moved to the UK for many years, it just shocked me how many car drivers don't abide by the traffic rules or just don't even know. For example: when a car turns and a cyclist/pedestrian goes straight, the car has to give way to the cyclist going straight. Many car drivers don't and honk as if the cyclist/pedestrian are in the wrong not giving the turning the car right of way. British friends have told me that cars always have right of way. Which is NOT true! I looked it up and the rules (rule 170) are just the same as in the Netherlands (and many other countries), except car drivers here think they always have right of way because they are a car hence why it's just so dangerous for cyclists.
@lisbeth04
@lisbeth04 5 дней назад
I cycled through kensington every day for a year during uni. Luckily I had found a saf-ish route that was mostly on a "quietway" (what Kens&Chelsea calls their suggested cycling paths). They were actually really nice, basically just small roads with virtually 0 cars. But this was just me being lucky, the year before I was in Putney and I almost died when I tried to make it to kensington on a bike. Also, I once had to cycle from Battersea to Liverpool Street, I was quite concerned but my boyfriend said "oh don't worry, there is the cycleway!" only issue was that it was the day of the queen's funeral. Lots of roads were blocked - including the cycleway. I got redirected on regular roads with no separation from traffic and almost died again
@318ishonk
@318ishonk 5 дней назад
If you want your cycle paths as much separated from streets as possible then come to Milton Keynes. Getting from A to B on a bike often requires a routing app but otherwise you can have paths with cows on it (Ouzel valley park), going along refreshing rivers (Ouzel, Great Ouse), riding through the most claustrophobic underpass in Britain (under Iron Trunk Aqueduct) or through nature reserves (Linford lakes, floodplains and wildlife reserve), and all while being in a 200+K population city.
@charlesholland4239
@charlesholland4239 7 дней назад
Cool. Nice to see Dan from Wrestletalk on here 🎉
@tallthinkev
@tallthinkev 6 дней назад
I didn't know he was aloud out, do Luke and Oli know?
@laineydunlap9757
@laineydunlap9757 7 дней назад
Ah! The gang back together! Loved this. Thank you for this video.
@grandmasmagic3858
@grandmasmagic3858 6 дней назад
the naked bike ride doesn't just happen in London, it's other places as well..back in March of 2020, on the eve of lock down, I was attending a function in Melbourne...all of a sudden, a large group of naked cyclist past our venue...we all popped out for a geek and a giggle, and then they were gone...3 years later, I was attending another function in the city when low and behold there they were again..and they really pick the wrong time to do it (or could it be the right time) it is bordering on cold weather, though the sun is out, sort of...it's so cold that they have no problem with their willies being on show, rather, because it's so cold that things shrink..chuckle...
@LucieSophia
@LucieSophia 6 дней назад
Loved this ❤ I was so scared for you guys in Kensington 🙈 but the Cycle paths looked great xxxx
@paulanderson1102
@paulanderson1102 6 дней назад
A great video. Big fan of your channel Evan. WOuld love to see another cycle video as a group
@davidbray5982
@davidbray5982 6 дней назад
I used to commute pretty much exactly this route every day. As you correctly pointed out, Chiswick, Buckingham Palace and Hyde Park are excellent to cycle through, world class I'd say. There were a few bits I was thinking "they don't know there's a better route there", like for Hammersmith "squareabout", actually it's pretty easy when you know what to do, but you're absolutely right about Kensington and Chelsea, between Hyde Park and Hammersmith you must go through Kensington High Street and there is no good route. I used an electric bike too. This came with some advantages I think. Since the motor was helping me, I didn't need to be in such a low down sporty racing position. Being more upright gave me better visibility, and made indicating easier. Also, being a comuter on an ebike meant I was wearing normal clothes. Unfortunately I think this did make a difference, I belive I was treated better becaude I didn't look like a cyclist or a tourist. Also, I want to be a curtious road user. If cars are going faster than me, and I can let them pass, of course I will, but unfortunately I found that the traffic is so bad in Kensington and Chelsea, and the cars are so overbig, that me sticking to the left encouraged unsafe overtaking. It was better to take the whole left hand lane, like I was just a small car. I don't want to have to use the road like this, it's impolite and inefficient, but it beats being smushed into the curb by a 4x4 Land Rover going 10mph.
@maxxie84
@maxxie84 6 дней назад
ahahah Can't believe I almost met you! I was at the naked bike ride... and it's a peaceful protest to lobby for more cycle safety by the way :)
@sie4431
@sie4431 6 дней назад
I haven't cycled since I was a teen, back in the 90's. I remember seeing my first segregated bike lane and thinking that every street should have them. I thought maybe it'd take a few years but maybe it'd happen when Labour came to power. Then I thought it'd happen when London got a Mayor, then I thought it'd happen when these cycle Superhighways were announced and then well I gave up. It's been 30 years and there's been almost no progress in outer London and maybe some in inner London. There are patches of protected bike lanes but what good is that? I would have thought by now there'd be at least one north/south route and one east/west route across London. I'd probably cycle everywhere if I could, if there was a nice single cycle route I'd probably just go there and cycle for fun
@timwright3442
@timwright3442 6 дней назад
I had conflicted feelings watching this. I'm a London cyclist and can completely sympathise with the difficulties of cycling through Kensington, but as a group you demonstrated what I, and I assume a lot of other road users find frustrating about cyclists. You're giving it a go which is great, but it seems like you don't understand how to ride safely and with respect to other people. At times you're all over the cycle lanes, you're stopping at completely random points, randomly mounting the pavements and show and inability to follow road markings. Most boroughs in London offer cycle safety courses for inexperienced cyclists, or there are resources online for how to ride safely in London - these are things that should be done before trying to navigate London by bike. Great to see people out on bikes, hopefully the Kensington experience didn't disuade you all!
@byshiri1751
@byshiri1751 6 дней назад
I thought I was the only thinking this - It seemed like a few of them hadn't ridden a bike in a while, let alone ride on London roads, when they attempted to do this trip. Particularly when it came to sections where they shared the road with vehicles, they seemed to be uneasy by the mere presence of cars beside them. London does have these fantastic Cycleways, but majority of London roads and Streets don't have a separate cycle lane, so you need to be able to confidently navigate them
@steveallen3434
@steveallen3434 6 дней назад
But a bad cyclist is not as dangerous as a bad driver and there was a lot of examples of bad driving. Driving in the cycle lanes parked in the cycle lane. even if some of the lanes were no wider than the handlebars
@miz4535
@miz4535 6 дней назад
Most of these things are mildly annoying to other road users, not life threatening. Unlike the types of driving on display that they were on the receiving end of.
@annaburch3200
@annaburch3200 6 дней назад
Amazing, eye-opening video that will hopefully bring more awareness to an issue that many people can connect to. I think those partitioned cycle ways look great! Keep having fun with your biking adventures!
@Desmaad
@Desmaad 7 дней назад
Why do rich people have to be such selfish jerks?
@mourlyvold64
@mourlyvold64 7 дней назад
To get rich.
@MsPeabody1231
@MsPeabody1231 7 дней назад
They think bikes slow them down. The thing that actually slows you down is variable speed limits on a road and people not driving to the max speed when the road is quiet.
@janebaker966
@janebaker966 6 дней назад
A lot of poor people are too.
@vladutzuli
@vladutzuli 6 дней назад
Being selfless doesn't pay
@Molikai
@Molikai 6 дней назад
@@janebaker966 yes. THe difference is, Rich people wh oare assholes have the power to enforce their asshollness. It's not a trait endemic t othe rich, just one that's way more obvious when you can affect more people.
@nbartlett6538
@nbartlett6538 6 дней назад
There are still way too many cars in London, I'm convinced that 90% of them don't really need to be there. My solution, if I were mayor, would be to quadruple the congestion charge and extend it out to all boroughs. No exemption for local residents but 100% exemption for disabled drivers (blue badge), and discounts for delivery vehicles within limited time windows.
@sophiechang1824
@sophiechang1824 6 дней назад
I love this video so much. Thank you, Evan!
@evan
@evan 6 дней назад
:)
@Kahoneki
@Kahoneki 7 дней назад
blessed be thou when evan uploads
@chrstopherrivera8986
@chrstopherrivera8986 6 дней назад
Maybe you could show the network of bike paths and future expansion of the path throughout London.
@miz4535
@miz4535 6 дней назад
Check out "London Cycle Routes" for these sorts of videos.
@MrMinorMorris
@MrMinorMorris 3 дня назад
Love this video. I cycle to work every day (that I'm in the office) from home to my closest station then from Paddington to Westminster. Through Hyde Park separated from cars for almost the entire route. I wouldn't change it. I see horses and geese swans, dogs every day and it is perfect. Rain or shine. Also your friends seem like a blast! Keep being awesome Londoners!
@Londoncycleroutes
@Londoncycleroutes 6 дней назад
Great video! I spend a lot of time working out how to avoid the horrible bits that you ran into and document it on my channel, do check it out if you need some route tips. You're absolutely right about Kensington high street - it's probably the worst example of somewhere it's difficult to safely work around in the whole city. It's very much the local council's fault there.
@evan
@evan 6 дней назад
I think I’ve seen one of your vids!
@Londoncycleroutes
@Londoncycleroutes 6 дней назад
@@evanI’m pleased! 🎉 I hope it was useful
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