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Driving With Turbo Flutter (compressor surge) Focus ST with True Vacuum Source! 

Andrew Mackey
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@jasperbryce1577
@jasperbryce1577 3 года назад
Yeah that stop sign at the beginning is just a suggestion
@asian_raisin
@asian_raisin 2 года назад
the flutter on my 50/50 is so tiny I thought it was a bearing or brakes going bad until I turned it counter clockwise a few clicks. Now I want it back...
@dmcpartlin17
@dmcpartlin17 3 года назад
14 white st1 driver here to support 🙌
@andrewmackey6185
@andrewmackey6185 3 года назад
Great to have you! :)
@joehuff2292
@joehuff2292 3 года назад
This is perfectly fine. You will be fine. Any time you hear alittle flutter giving it throttle also that means your car is building to much boost so the wastegate realize that and releases the air and it give you that fluttery noise. If it's super loud you have a problem if it's faint to the ear your fine.
@koriyuhboi436
@koriyuhboi436 2 года назад
Where did you get your dash cover? I would like to get one as I just bought a 2016 ST and plan on keeping it for a long time
@Matrix586019
@Matrix586019 3 года назад
Mine started to do it when I installed my cobb tune, but I had a 3 inch intake and turbo smart bov
@yungterv198
@yungterv198 3 года назад
That’s not good
@VoxVirtus86
@VoxVirtus86 2 года назад
@@yungterv198 Its harmless as long as it's happening when the throttle blade is closed and you're not on boost.
@garretshaver-phillips5828
@garretshaver-phillips5828 3 года назад
whats the dash cover for, reduce vibrations? or just for dash protection. just curious, new to your videos.
@andrewmackey6185
@andrewmackey6185 3 года назад
Just purely for dash protection because I planned on keeping this car for a long time :)
@astranuggets
@astranuggets Год назад
I have boomb BOV - it not true vacuum source. I do not have intake cover, just a shield. I hear flutter EXACTLY as yours. Low flutter, high BOV does it's job. My question is, I haven't done the true vacuum "hack" (as I have heard it referred to). Is this something I need to worry about or not? I am seeing so much mixed information.
@joeyyousif9096
@joeyyousif9096 3 года назад
I got an hks bov, how can I route this to get the same flutter your getting? My symposer delete vacuum line is connected to my bov. Regardless of how much throttle I'm giving my bov always blows off.
@andrewmackey6185
@andrewmackey6185 3 года назад
You ran vacuum line from the symposer delete to the BOV and capped off the solenoid?
@joeyyousif9096
@joeyyousif9096 3 года назад
@@andrewmackey6185 No the solenoid isn’t capped.
@joeyyousif9096
@joeyyousif9096 3 года назад
And yes I ran the vacuum line from my symposer delete to my bov
@MagicoQc
@MagicoQc Год назад
​@@joeyyousif9096 did you ended up doing it? I'm about to get a cpe charge pipe with a hks bov and i'm already running the turbosmart with the symposer delete. I was wondering if it was going to work.
@VoxVirtus86
@VoxVirtus86 2 года назад
If you're getting surge under acceleration/boost it's because your engine isn't flowing enough air to meet the demands of the turbo. You need to either ramp the boost up slower, turn the boost down, or find a way to make your engine flow more air.
@RigmanZ11
@RigmanZ11 3 года назад
Hey man I am looking into getting a dash cover for my 15 ST at some point, what color is yours? There are so many different colors and the sites that are selling them don't seem to have images of all the colors. I like this color here, if you could give me a link or something I'd appreciate it!
@andrewmackey6185
@andrewmackey6185 3 года назад
Here is the link for this exact one: dashcare.com/i-17179316-ford-focus-st-rs-2012-2018-with-dash-gauges-dashcare-dash-cover.html
@andrewmackey6185
@andrewmackey6185 3 года назад
The color I have is called "black carpet"
@RigmanZ11
@RigmanZ11 3 года назад
For sure. I ended up ordering the black velour one so I hope it turns out looking good!
@larsleeson
@larsleeson 3 года назад
So, the flutter is from unused boost, not from your 50/50 valve. It's also not great for your turbo, hence the bov. It's electronic in the ST so it works better. I do agree that it sounds cool , but that is all.
@andrewmackey6185
@andrewmackey6185 3 года назад
Monitoring the boost pressure with the Cobb Accessport will show you get flutter under no boost, so the flutter is not exclusively caused when you build up boost. The BOV does vent when boost is built up but also some flutter at the same time. When you starting building higher psi there is no flutter. It's debatable if this is bad for the turbo in the long run which is why I always tell people to make sure they research modifications beforehand :)
@VoxVirtus86
@VoxVirtus86 2 года назад
Flutter under no load/low boost doesn't harm your turbo at all and is completely normal. open throttle surge is bad, closed throttle surge is not a problem.
@bradleycook3996
@bradleycook3996 3 года назад
You only get surge at a certain boost level or is it a certain rpm level?
@andrewmackey6185
@andrewmackey6185 3 года назад
Sorry if I was a bit confusing in the video - technically you get surge under low boost or no boost all the time even if stock. You can take your intake box off to really hear it. Once you put a cold air intake on, it becomes even more noticeable. To get the loudest surge, you quickly build boost with low rpm and let off the gas very fast. If you're really driving the car and get the boost in the 10-15psi+ range you wont get any surge as all the back pressure goes out the BOV.
@oaktown7509
@oaktown7509 3 года назад
If anybody wants NATURAL flutter and not bad flutter. Buy a symposer delete and run true vacuum. It's safe
@andrewmackey6185
@andrewmackey6185 3 года назад
Agreed.
@smcopey
@smcopey 3 года назад
What exactly is that. And what's it do. I have the 2.0 Ecoboost escape and would like the flutter. I have plenty of bov noise with my setup already but I like flutter
@haydenlamprecht1907
@haydenlamprecht1907 Год назад
by true vacuum u mean to the bov
@gutierrez3024
@gutierrez3024 3 года назад
What kind of dash cover is that?
@andrewmackey6185
@andrewmackey6185 3 года назад
Bought it from here: dashcare.com/
@thefinalroman
@thefinalroman 3 года назад
How has the Turbo held up so far?
@andrewmackey6185
@andrewmackey6185 2 года назад
No issues so far. I bought it new in Dec 2017
@VoxVirtus86
@VoxVirtus86 2 года назад
It's going to be fine if it's only getting flutter (aka compressor surge) in THIS type of situation. If it was doing it under full throttle at 20psi and 5000 RPM then you've got a serious issue that needs to be resolved right away.
@ibutd
@ibutd 3 года назад
Coilovers next !!!!!
@andrewmackey6185
@andrewmackey6185 3 года назад
Most definitely! That is the next big purchase that will be happening soon ;)
@carlos2k_472
@carlos2k_472 3 года назад
what kind of bov do you have
@andrewmackey6185
@andrewmackey6185 3 года назад
This is a turbosmart 50/50 dual port!
@joseluz9406
@joseluz9406 3 года назад
@@andrewmackey6185 how do you tune your car with Cobb access port and have same time 50/50 i did it to mine car staring acting weird.
@keithr5591
@keithr5591 3 года назад
Flutter and surge is going to shorten your turbo life from what I have read and understand. But hey whatever makes your ride yours to enjoy.
@andrewmackey6185
@andrewmackey6185 3 года назад
Yeah I agree, but the flutter produced by this setup is caused by closed throttle compressor surge, not open throttle. You can hear flutter on Focus STs if you only add an aftermarket intake and remove the filter cover. A stock focus will produce closed throttle compressor surge under very low boost which you cannot hear unless you remove the intake box and add an aftermarket intake. With all that being said, I'm getting more flutter than what is normal (probably not the best in the long run) because I have not loosened the BOV yet. Thanks for the comment!
@virtualturbo955
@virtualturbo955 3 года назад
I get lots of low rpm off throttle flutter even with the stock setup with only the air filter lid open. So yeah it flutters even if its stock, should be completely fine.
@keithr5591
@keithr5591 3 года назад
@@virtualturbo955 interesting, I have the Cobb intake, boomba bov, tial wastegate, catless DP and fmic with larger diameter charge pipes , no flutter at all.
@virtualturbo955
@virtualturbo955 3 года назад
@@keithr5591 You have the airbox lid open or not? Could just be that you don't hear the flutter, it's pretty quiet. I now have a aftermarket air filter with the stock intake and it flutters very audibly even when driving. Only when throttle is lifted though. Stock vacuum setup, stock BPV
@keithr5591
@keithr5591 3 года назад
@@virtualturbo955 Yea the box is open. It's carbon fiber cobb intake. I can hear the bov and the turbo spool but that's about it. Now I'll try to listen up more and see if it's just low.
@OmarFlowTv
@OmarFlowTv 3 года назад
Pls let me listen to the CAR!
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