Dropping A Big Block 455 Into The Retro Hurst Olds - Detroit Muscle S9, E13

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New 2022 episode! Grease and gears begin to fly as we swap out our '83 Hurst-Olds’ measly 307 engine for one built in the Horsepower shop with the help of legendary engine builder Joe Mondello. This big block is truly one-of-a-kind.
00:00 - Intro
03:08 - Engine Bay Cleaning and Prep
04:26 - Transmission & Big Block Install
10:14 - Brake Upgrade
13:02 - MoParty
Watch Part 1: Bringing The Thunder To Our Hurst Olds With 80's Style And Big Power
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Watch Part 2: Retro Hurst Olds Exterior Gets Restored Back To Its Showroom Finish
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@PowerNationTV Год назад

Watch Part 2: Retro Hurst Olds Exterior Gets Restored Back To Its Showroom Finish: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iCXNSrpdP7U.html

@blackswaggablackout3301 Год назад

Ya'll need to do a giveaway I love to have that car. She look amazing

@unclequack5445 Год назад

If It's all the same to you and you guys have unlimited budgets swapping in a manual is all I'd have considered since you already had the motor and trans out of the car.

@BUILTFORDTOUGH79 Год назад

Thanks for the advertisements. Let me know when you want to show me a car being built.

@RoofysGarage Год назад

Right?! I understand product placement to pay the bills, but when engine bay cleaner and rust penetrator gets more screen time than the actual engine removal and install, it gets a bit ridiculous. At least cut back a bit on the Mopar show or something to actually focus a bit of time on the build. 🙄

@flyonbyya Год назад

Powernation is now one long azz commercial

@joe4frog Год назад

I totally agree with you. Infomercials like this are getting annoying and it earned a place in my do not watch list of RU-vid channels. It's really a shame to ruin what could have been a great channel.

@NYPATRIOTBX Год назад

Seriously😂, and I don’t know where they got that a 2004R is light duty, last time I checked they were behind grand nationals and GNX’s

@justinreel5546 Год назад

I got rid of cable tv because of the damn commercials. Like roofys garage said above. I understand commercials to pay bills but goddamn this episode was ridiculous! I can’t deal!! 🤮

@aguyinnc2865 Год назад

Never have been a GM fan, but I can appreciate this build, especially since you're using an Olds engine and not just throwing another LS in it like everybody and their brother does. Back in the early 70's, my friend had a '71 442 455 that was pretty nasty. I was driving one evening and happened to pick a race with a '69 Pontiac Gran Prix, and it was pretty scary watching the speedo run back around past zero. With my friend talking to Jesus, I managed to pass the Gran Prix with traffic coming at us. We got down the road, the Pontiac disappeared, and we stopped to gather our nerves together. Never tried that again!

@Piggypongtheavgeek Год назад

I have a 2004 R rebuilt Art Carr performance transmission in my 72 olds. 30 over 455. 400 + horsepower. That 2004R rebuilt with the right parts would do just fine behind that engine. The nice thing about the 2004R is it’s the same length as the turbo 350. No driveshaft or yoke change. The gear ratio is better than that 700. And you have to use an adapter plate to mate it to the olds. The 200 has a universal case. BOP and Chevy.

@GregHuston Год назад

I'm sure Monster gave them the 700R4, I have an '85 442 and my 2004R Bowtie Overdrives level 2 trans held up to 6000 RPM shifts and burn outs behind a built 403 (easily 425hp) and that trans is still fine. AND think it's cheaper than a Monster 700R4!

@TurboMalibuV6 Год назад

You're absolutely correct. I have a 200-4R in my car. It's been a brute-of-a-transmission up until I started making 600HP.

@m3rdpwr Год назад

In 1990, I had a 1985 Cutlass supreme. I pulled out the anemic 307 130 HP engine, and built a 403 Olds small block based on the David Smith Oldsmobile design. 9:1 compression, pump gas, I sent the computer-controlled quadrajet to the carb shop to have it reworked. That being said, at the end of it all it ran a 12.70 in the quarter mile. I had mated it it to a 700R4 using a TCI adapter so it can bolt to a BOP motor. Those were some of the best days.

@viiriix6525 Год назад

12.70 was faster for early 90s. Not bad.

@m3rdpwr Год назад

@@viiriix6525 My one mistake was having a non Olds a person work on my heads. I didn't want to ship them to California to Dave Smith and lose a couple of weeks with my only car. So I had a local guy work on it, after that, the car started running like crap. Number four cylinder lost the valve seats. I pulled the heads off the engine on the stand. Unfortunately, someone went to use my engine stand and didn't the cover my motor back up and it ruined my engine with it's sitting out in the air. I think I paid $600 at the time to have Dave Smith give me a set of heads with larger 2.072 and 1.625 valves, dual springs, new guides and seals. Had I known better at the time as I was really new at this, for $1,600 instead of $600, I could have had them do a full-out set of performance heads for me. Lesson learned, but it was a hard pill to swallow with such a fun car.

@jeromejozwiak4705 Год назад

@@viiriix6525 in 1990 I had a 69 camaro that ran 9.30s The first time I took it to the track I got thrown out because the car didn't have a cage . I had a 496 big block 14 :1 compression . Ultradyne Roller cam Dominnater carb Team G intake Closed cambered heads from a ls6 engine ported and polished With a 250 shot of Nitrous For what the engine was it ran extremely well .

@davelowets Год назад

@@jeromejozwiak4705 It took you 250h.p. worth of nitrous to get in the low 9s? Wow.. I would have though a 14:1 BBC 496 with a big solid roller, ported heads, and a 4500 Dominator would have run that WITHOUT any spray. You should have built yourself an N/A, no power adder BBO, and you would have been there on motor only... 😜

@davelowets Год назад

Why didn't you just use a 2004-R? No adapter would have been needed. They have a universal bellhousing from the factory.

@edwardpate6128 Год назад

The 2004R would have been just fine with a solid rebuild. It has several advantages over the 700R4. Many of them doing just great behind some very high HP Grand Nationals.

@rickjohnson6559 Год назад

For a second I thought you were same guys that had a Hurst olds 80s. Repainted without the red stripe. Are you kidding me. But yours has it. I'm a Pontiac man. But kudos for your build. I love all old Detroit muscle. Well Ford is in last place but oh well. Good job guys.

@PinkysBane Год назад

I still love this build!!!! You wonderful gentlemen have made this car into exactly what I always dreamed of for my first car a 1981 Cutlass Supreme with a 350 Olds my favorite car ever and I am a 1000% Ford guy

@bigmountain7561 Год назад

My old neighbor Sal was one of Joe’s closest friends and fellow freak engine guru’s. Joe did a set of heads for a 400 water jacket engine named the Mini Mouse about 40 years ago. That car ran consistently at 11.54 in a 66 Chevelle. Less commercials would be nice.

@markchapman2585 Год назад

RIP Dr Olds 🙏.

@empi1972gtv Год назад

The order of operations here is killing me.

@jeffallen3382 Год назад

All that polishing on the body and than your new recruit is leaning over the fender scratching the hell out if it... Not to mention with his power washing while the windows are down?

@dw8840 Год назад

So you decided to go with a 700-R4 citing that the 200-4R is light duty. But did you know the Buick Grand National 200-4R was a beefed up version? Also there are a few transmission builders that can build a 200-4R to withstand some serious abuse.

@josephnewcomb5670 Год назад

We did a 455 swap into a 82 Oldsmobile Cutlass years ago and ran a th400 trans, Super Comp Long tube headers, 800 Edelbrock Carb & a 373 Posi-Trac Fun Street Car

@davelowets Год назад

I hated those old 1 7/8" Super Comp headers that were 2-piece, and wrapped the one tube around the frame. I REALLY like the Stainless 2" ARH headers I have now, where all the tubes go down without having to go around the frame. They have spiked merge collectors built-in to them also. 4" collector outlets

@bigs650 Год назад

Ship me that 200r4 I’ll take it

@brockstarg2296 Год назад

Those are getting hard to find!

@jakespeed63 Год назад

Yeah, good show but please more details on building that Oldsmobile. Are the sponsors taking over the production of all these programs??? Sad

@dang6832 Год назад

Gotta love that stock “dual” exhaust.

@oscarwalton1188 Год назад

In stock form The 200r4 is stronger and more reliable than a 700r4 a built 200 would be better

@Bugholeexcalibur Год назад

These episodes always make a few hairs pop on my chest.

@D.E.Middleton Год назад

Thanks Tom.

@bladenrexroth2555 Год назад

RIP Joe

@dancampbell4400 Год назад

Ignore the haters guys, I understand the product placements help pay the bills. I enjoy everything you guys do and have watched tommy for over a decade and joel is a great addition to the crew. Keep up the good work, love me a g body!

@TundeEszlari Год назад

Super video.😁

@richardfoster9499 Год назад

I had a 83 buick regal I pulled the 231c.i V6 and dropped in a 77 Oldsmobile 350 with a TH350 transmission.

@stevenallen6245 Год назад

It killed me what tommy said about the 200 trans and then made it worse when they bolted up a 700 to the 455 from monster transmissions 😳🤔

@logancarter2134 Год назад

I growing very tired of watching a commercial when all I want is to see classic cars being worked on

@abattain Год назад

Man who hurt you? You don’t have to watch

@logancarter2134 Год назад

And that's what a lot of people are going to do. The content of this used to be great but now it's a 30 minutes commercial.

@bradenkowal8117 Год назад

@@logancarter2134 im not sure if you knoe how shows work...but you need sponsors to help pay the bills. In return you have to plug them every chance you get. It sucks but thats how it goes. I went through that being on tv for a few years

@OldsmobileSBRocket Год назад

Why in the hell would anyone swap a superior 2004R for a POS 700R4? Sponsors, that's why. They couldn't survive behind stock swirl port 350's, why would I want one behind a 455? No good reason at all, unless it was free like on this show.

@teddyhurd4016 Год назад

Love your expertise and the professional work.

@stefan-vasileionita2510 Год назад

Nice!

@gbodysandmotors Год назад

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@GregHuston Год назад

About time that 455 got a home! An Extreme Automatics, CK Performance or Art Carr 200-4R would've been the way to go. I wish you guys gave a little more info on those Headers, I'm assuming they're ARH G-body Olds Big Block headers? I have an '85 that I yanked the 307 out of and put in a 403, these cars are so much more fun with some HP!

@BigGeorge3397 Год назад

Agreed... What headers are y'all using?

@nameyourchannel7844 Год назад

Deep Creep for the win!

@richardfehr1838 Год назад

The 200 4R could have been built to handle the 455 and would bolt up to the block without an adapter. While the 700 is easier to source, it has a Chevy bell housing, a fact that YOU DID NOT MENTION! I know advertisers run the show, but you need to be honest with your viewers, most of whom have not driven a '69 Delta 88 out of the showroom, lacking the real life experience of wrenching on a car.

@michaelbradley7529 Год назад

I can't believe how many people have subscribed to what is essentially a series of infomercials.

@flyonbyya Год назад

Powernation Turned into one long friggin commercial !

@cabowabo210 Год назад

Can we talk about the shake weight at 4:43 next to the jig saw!!

@thehemiolds455 Год назад

R.I.P Dr olds.🤙🙏🙏😎👍 Nothing but the greatest mondello performance olds engines

@imranabbasi7871 Год назад

Good luck 👍

@glennoropeza3545 Год назад

This is just what i wanted to do back in the mid 80s when Cutlass bodies were way to plentiful and big block relics from the very early 70's was just another old gas guzzling undesirable! Swap a 7.4 liter engine into a 3.8 liter body was simple power to weight ratio!

@manueldiez2929 Год назад

Muy buen trabajo !! Felicitaciones a todo el equipo!! greetings from argentina

@Charlieswirld Год назад

at 15:29 are you sure it's a 1970 DODGE 440 CUDA? lol

@ericc.3956 Год назад

Thanks for all the adds......

@robertjenkins2686 Год назад

Hey brother I'm on the safety comity protect them eyes while working over your head🙈🤓

@jamiejohnson1200 Год назад

Tommy sounding more and more like Elmore!

@richardturk7162 Год назад

The 67 notch back barracudas are pretty few and far between.

@Raven-rl7gj Год назад

Cool project but man, that’s a lot of advertisements and product placement.

@4EyedFox Год назад

The whole thing is one giant advertisement.

@lb9gta307 Год назад

There were 700R4s that got a vehicle speed sensor in place of the mechanical speedometer cable drive. A speedometer cable is not needed with that transmission.

@brentvalentine 5 месяцев назад

As much as I like seeing some old Dodge iron, it sure would have been nice to see more about the Olds and the the new engine. Still a good video though.

@Tnomoney Год назад

How’d they bolt a Chevy trans to a olds block I didn’t see a multicase trans or an adapter plate

@d-money314 Год назад

I had put an oldsmobile 455 in my 1986 olds 442

@SModelMafia Год назад

I didn't know I was going to watch a commercial, this was hard to watch @Powernation

@dta6446 Год назад

gotta put bulbs in the rear side markers

@richardsalinetrojr1957 Год назад

Man, I had an 87 Cutless that I dropped a 455 in and that big bitch did not just slide right in like this one did. granted my 455 came from a 72 Buick Electra so maybe the Buick block is bigger/wider than an Olds block. Idk, either way, It took 2 buddies of mine and myself almost 2 days of tweaking things here and there to make the Buick motor fit properly. the Cutty went from a Sunday church-going vehicle to a fun beast that would just guzzle gas once you opened her up. with a factory 17 gal fuel tank you could watch your fuel gauge slowly drop every time you opened it up. didn't care though cause at the time gas was $1.19/gal for premium so didn't bother me to drop a 20 in the tank every day. Lol. had the Cutty for 20yrs before letting her go and I regret it almost daily.

@GregHuston Год назад

The Buick 455 is the lightest Big Block there is! These guys glossed over A LOT with the 455 swap, the editing makes it look much easer than it actually is. It's tight by the A/C Condensor, you must use stock valve covers or notch the condesnor box and those HEaders are extremely expensive (like $1500), that stupid Monster Trans isn't a direct swap either.

@tomjaksa6650 Год назад

Didn’t realize this channel became more of sellin products and less of workin on vehicles

@chazlaws2738 Год назад

Yes

@Dr.Meola1980 Год назад

I was excited to watch this episode. I do understand that they need to do some product placement to pay for these builds but this episode seems a little excessive .

@RoofysGarage Год назад

Right?! I understand product placement to pay the bills, but when engine bay cleaner and rust penetrator gets more screen time than the actual engine removal and install, it gets a bit ridiculous. At least cut back a bit on the Mopar show or interviewing the moparty cretins for half the episode or something to actually focus a bit of time on the build. 🙄

@abc123546879 Год назад

No body likes a slidethrough when you drive a car with that kind of power.!!!!!

@w1zard0f0h Год назад

90 percent ads and 10 percent car stuff.

@NYPATRIOTBX Год назад

I would rather use that 2004R or a junkyard transmission, than use anything from monster.

@TurboMalibuV6 Год назад

Even after all these years, some people still don't get it and have to spend more money to get the 700 to work where a 200-4R originally was installed. Plus, they don't even realize that the 200-4R is a better transmission. I'll gladly take that weak transmission off of your hands. By the way, it's 200-4R not a 200-R4. I hate it when a car guy says it wrong. It immediately makes them think there not so smart of a car guy after all.

@hugieflhr03 Год назад

As a younger man we did a few big block olds in a cutlass but alway had a problem with the AC firewall cover sharing the same area as the headers. I hope they mention how they worked around that problem.

@davelowets Год назад

I've NEVER had a problem with headers in the heater box area with a BBO in these G-Bodys, but I HAVE had issues with the valve covers hitting the HVAC box, every time. It was WORSE if the car had A/C also. I had figured out a way to trim the heater box off the side that interfered with the valve cover, and replace the section that I cut out with a piece of sheet metal, and be able to keep the heater.

@jimbarber2947 5 месяцев назад

did u guys use American Racing Headers,cause I couldn't find anything else that fits

@lennycoluccio9129 Год назад

What kind of headers did you guys use part # I have a g-body with olds 455

@lennycoluccio9129 Год назад

And did you have to rap the starter and header from hot starts

@josephnewcomb5670 Год назад

Dont think that trans is gonna hold up long Behind that 455

@kingjeremysircornwell7847 Год назад

Leet the silicone set up and it doesn't look tacky. quarter inch bead.

@michaelslaughter8280 Год назад

I'd like to see you all do a 1973 Olds Cutlass Supreme

@warrenlewis3977 Год назад

Time to go buy some "Deep Creep".

@jamiea2404 Год назад

Did I miss the part where they showed the adapter plate that’s required to got from the 455 with the BOP pattern to the Chevy pattern 700r4? Maybe also say who’s headers they used?

@dancampbell4400 Год назад

They didn’t show it but tommy said something about he put it in and then put the trans in

@tonym1279 Год назад

they wont mention who made those products because the manufacturers aren't paying them to mention them.....simple as that

@RoofysGarage Год назад

No time to do that when they've gotta mention the rust penetrator, engine bay cleaner, and interview the moparty cretins for half the episode... 🙄

@davelowets Год назад

American Racing Headers... The NICEST swap headers you'll find to put a big block Olds into a G-Body. Stainless steel, 2" primary tubes, 4" spiked merge collectors built-in, fits the chassis PERFECT without hitting or having to be bashed. But be ready to pay to play.. About $1600 a set. Worth it though.

@The1966chevyvan Год назад

15:30 the real name for the color for Plymouth is In Violet, Thanks Mark Worman :)

@sogood4u489 Год назад

Its time for a basic barebones budget big block buick build.

@GregHuston Год назад

THey do some pretty interesting builds on Engine power now with the new kid that I'd say are definitely budget friendly builds. Joe came on the show well over 10 years ago when they first built this 455.

@sogood4u489 Год назад

@@GregHuston I'm talking Joe Elmore and Chuck Hanson days!

@alconk7129 Год назад

Was this a commercial to sell items? I do t remember Power Nation being this bad😢

@lennycoluccio9129 Год назад

What kind and yr headers are they

@samd7601 Год назад

They need to do a Dodge Spirit build to get the grannies hot

@davelowets Год назад

Yea, umm NO

@CrankAddict Год назад

That's an expensive transmission with a questionable future. I would have put in a stock 4l80e with a TCI controller. Cheaper and more reliable and no TV cable to worry about. I've gone through too many "built" 700r4s.

@raymondhaley6185 Год назад

I'd would have picked a real classic for such an amazing endeavor, this car doesn't exactly scream ol, school a 455 engine deserve a real car.

@davelowets Год назад

Take a look at my 85, and say that again.. 😜

@nobodyspecial6436 Год назад

That crusty ‘Cuda at the end was Dylan McCools wasn’t it??

@SolamenteVees Год назад

Rusty Hardware is my stage name 1:32

@andrer3854 Год назад

Is that 200 4r trans for sale

@thisismyalt9010 Год назад

Put a manual in it.

@a2cryss Год назад

Shake weight hanging on the tool wall😄 Shouldn't there be a limit to how many sponsors can be in one video?

@dancampbell4400 Год назад

I’d imagine that beyond their control

@robertwest3093 Год назад

The 455 Oldsmobile engine is only 1.5 inches wider than the small block 307. It could pass for being a 307 to the unknowing person.

@davelowets Год назад

It's more wider than just 3/4" on each side....

@fordfairlane662dr Год назад

That tommy guy isn't as fat and has a ton more hair on top..old show..but its ok!

@smallblocksadventures6008 Год назад

You would think after all these years they would know that monster transmission is a joke... Then things don't hold up at all

@mattrodgers4878 Год назад

If monster spent a fraction of the budget spent on advertising as the did on research and development they might be worth the money.

@RoofysGarage Год назад

Monster transmissions aren't worth the ugly spray paint that they're covered with!

@AlexKloehn Год назад

I’ve had a monster super duty 4l65e in my 07 classic Silverado for about 2 years and 100,000 miles of pretty much towing and I haven’t had an issue with it. Maybe I just got lucky but after seeing reviews I probably won’t be going with them again😂😂😂

@ireneuszskica558 Год назад

They got a Shake Weight hanging on their tool wall 😂

@larrydrozd2740 Год назад

I like these guys....but the show is just product placement. Five minutes of "work" and the rest selling us stuff. Its really insulting.

@dancampbell4400 Год назад

It’s probably not their call

@harveylong5878 Год назад

@@dancampbell4400 the hosts have no say in what products are being shilled. whatever corporate overlord opps I mean sponsor threw the production company the most money is the ones that get shilled hardcore

@abc123546879 Год назад

Tommy i thought a Hurst OLDS.came with a 4 speed box.!!!

@ryanstensrud9740 Год назад

it does a 200r4. they are replacing it with a equally crappy 700r4

@TonyBone1986 Год назад

Wheels and tires name?

@tommykirrane653 Год назад

Just another long ass ad!

@Mr34blazer Год назад

2004R is light duty? 🤣 Tell that to the turbo Buick community with those transmissions running 9's, even 8's. You dumped that for a POS monster transmission?!? Ahahahaha

@kevinbrown4894 Год назад

You messed up a Hurst-Olds how dum.

@crw3673 Год назад

I 100% agree! I don't agree in taking a very good condition 40+ years, low numbers special edition car and making a project of it. Could have gotten the same results from a black and gold 442 or get a regular Cutlass Supreme and do a full restoration. Make it a Hurst Edition clone or a Joe Mondelo tribute car.

@crw3673 Год назад

I said before and I'll say it again. It ashame they took a part well condition 40+ year old, Hurst Edition low numbers survivor car. I would have preferred a black and gold 442 or a regular cutlass Supreme full restored as Hurst Edition clone or a Joe Mondelo tribute car. My 2 cents.

@davidvaughn7778 Год назад

I assume these guys are in California, where they could find plenty of donor cars in little to no rust. Instead they find good examples of rare(r) cars and ruin what little they had going for them for price and nostalgia reasons. But, a budget is a budget, and this show must go on. I'd much rather see guys take an old base model car and make it a clone, or even a wild street car. It'd also be nice to see shows like this doing up a car with a small budget in mind.

@crw3673 Год назад

@@davidvaughn7778 I believe they are in Tennessee.

@davidvaughn7778 Год назад

@@crw3673 that would account for the accent of one of the guys.

@peter455sd Год назад

You need a transmission BOP pattern to fit an Oldsmobile engine,that one won't fit

@davidlibby5430 Год назад

I don't believe in safety glasses either. (Stevie Wonder)

@2ndsspz Год назад

but its still an oldsmobile

@getmoney3getmoneythebuilde665 Год назад

When y’all consider selling all the old parts y’all took off the car

@videogamegusto7852 Год назад

200r4?

@anthonycadiou8367 Год назад

As it should be_ a 455

@dancampbell4400 Год назад

It is

@chrishitchner6826 Год назад

I like how he chose a gm not bop pattern

@davelowets Год назад

G.M. IS b.o.p.... 😕

@chrishitchner6826 Год назад

Ole bill nye over here

@davelowets Год назад

@@chrishitchner6826 Well, you were wrong... 🤷🏻🤦🏻

@FaithfulServant316 Год назад

Great job guys! 👏 Can you guys at POWERNATION please build my engine & car with monster race motor and I will use as a sleeper on streets and track & surprise ev1. It's a very low mileage 97 T-bird LX , no rust, no problems.