Saw him several times and yeah he's a beast, they're masters of brutality there isn't 2 bands like Krisiun. Also worth mentioning that on his snare hand he holds his stick backwards, which is even more incredible
Max is a monster, Krisiun are unreal live. They tore my head right off! I've never heard a band that comes even close to sounding this insane live. I heard they also record their albums playing all at the same time, so they have a live feel on their records. Strangely, I don't really like their records that much. Probably because I'm so used to hearing the super processed, quantized, single tracked stuff?
They always impressed me but never got me until I saw them live. First time I think it was 2008, they blew me away, you gave a perfect description. Then I listened to Southern storm and I was in. With time I also fell in love with their earlier material.
Krisiun is one of the sickest live bands I've ever witnessed. They are so fucking intense, it's unbelievable. I love these guys so much. And they are all so completely humble in privat.
Inferno from Behemoth does this style of blast beat sometimes as well; that is 16th notes with the hands and 8th note triplets with the feet. Excellent break down as always, Marthyn!
If you haven't yet, you should check Mauricio Weimar also from Brasil. He is amazing, and has beautiful technique, precision, and speed. He used to play in a band called Nephasth and his RU-vid channel is called Mauricio Weimar - EXTREME DRUMS. I know you will find him a great drummer. Thank you for all the great videos!
It's so cool that you have the ability to get this kind of information across because I was nerding out on this guy's drumming for this exact reason with my friend the other day thinkg that nobody else catches this kind of detail but you my friend have just dropped a bomb of information out there and I for one will not be surprised when more drummers start playing more like Max with that triple under blast technique, I mean deserves its own blast beat name like "Max-Blast" or you know something cool...cheers Marth!
Your edits are hilarious! I saw Max on tour with Nile or Behemoth. Can't remember but either way the whole line up from opening band to headliner had killer drummers. Krisiun was impressive.
20-25 years ago I became friends with the group. And I visited them in the studio, and I went to several live shows. Max is a great person. And when we spent time together, he was always showing me his drum skills and techniques. It was awesome to learn from him. Hope to see the guys again in Germany some day.
First time I heard about krisiun was when I first saw them live on stage. Couldn't even focus on messy or sloppy, the speed and wall of sound just blew me away :O
I call that messy blast beat "2 against 3 blast" because it's essentially a polyrhythm played REALLY fast. Hands play 2 notes while the feet play 3 notes. 😁
hey sir martin, I really had a big problem in playing double bass, I had a wrong concept used to speed up double bass drumming until I saw your videos. Man that relax contraction technique helped me a lot in preserving energy in playing drums. specially double bas drumming. I am doing it for almost a month right now. I can feel the progress and being positively love drumming again :) THank you soo much. A fan from Philippines.
I remember them opening for Dimmu Borgir in 96. They killed it. Mindblowing! I have seen Krisiun numerous times since then amd they never disappoint. Max is a beast and like Dominator you immediately know it is him playing. There are. It many DM drummers with their own voice out there. I haven’t read those comments about him, but obviously it’s the same idiots who are bashing e.g. on Nick Barker.
The band i was in had the opportunity to open up for Krisiun along with some other local bands like 8 or 9 years ago, Krisiun got on the stage and it was like "oh you guys play death metal, thats cool...watch this" and proceeded to blow the whole place away. super cool, down to earth kinda guys.
some other cool bands that do this stuff are dermoid cyst the drummer does triplets with hands with sixteenth notes on the feet. a legendary grindcore band called assuck does a alternating sixteenth note on hands with eight notes on the kick. another legendary grindband called agathocles does eight notes with the left hand and eightnote triplets with the right side of his body. they sounds so cool.
Man I’ve been listening to this band for 20 years and had never figured out it was 3:2. Assumed it was just brutal chaos. This is the metal band I play for people when I am trying to offend them
This ambiguity beetween triplets and 16th feel is typical in south American, and afro cuban, music. For sure he also develop this technique cause of his limitations, but its like he applys concepts of Son or Cascara in brutal drumming. True genius
I have got to see this band live, holy crap that is nuts. I don't know how he does it that is really impressive. Would love to see you do Dave McGraw I don't remember seeing it, but I may have missed it.
Yes, he uses triggers in his shows. I'm from Brazil and I'm used to work with touring sound before the pandemic. I did a show with Krisium here in Rio de Janeiro in 2019 and managed to talk to the band's sound engineer. He uses trigger AND microphones at the same time.
His drumming is inspiring. I met him at backstage in a festival in Bogotá 7 years ago. Never heard about Krisiun before, then I saw this cool guy I've chatted an hour before, drumming in his own "weird" brutal way! Now I've implemented some ideas inspired in his drumming to my drumming. I kinda do the same shown here but with the contrary limbs! like 8ths and 16ths with feet and triplets/sextuplets with hands! it is fun! you can keep the 4 on the feet and the 3 on the snare and do comping with the other hand, accents and stuff. It sounds like some kind of el negro hernandez death metal! lol
I saw them live twice, once in Czech Republic and once in Venezuela. They sound like a truck smashing through the venue. Anyway, I wanna listen to this Colombian death metal, please link to a song with that style
Always loved his style cause it's "Brutally Chaotic" making you want to kick someone's face hard! Agreeing with some comment in here, extreme metal drumming have become too polished, too pretty, when the original goal of "extreme drumming" was making you bang your head and having sum wrestling fun in the pit😉! Precision isn't necessary if you want to express fury into music, all hail to Max Kolesne😉🤘! Great video Marthyn😉🤘
You can hear examples of this exact style of blasting in the album "Evoking the Abomination" by the band: Abhorrence. Hell, you'd be forgiven for thinking it was an early Krisiun album; the style is that similar, right down to the vocals. There's also another interesting take on this blasting variation by Sanity's Dawn drummer, Holm. His has more of a "galloping" sound on the double bass. Imagine if you're playing a constant quad fill - 2 bass drum notes, 2 tom notes - for several bars but, instead of playing the tom notes, you're playing a blast beat over the 2 bass drum notes. He does this all over the "Mangled in the Meatgrinder" and "Chop Copper" albums but it's really noticeable on the song "Schleimhautsepsis" Links: Sanity's Dawn - Schleimhautsepsis: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C5FQ55w6X1I.html&start_radio=1 Abhorrence - Evoking the abomination: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fC3HFyTkf9o.html
Excellent video -- he might be chaotic but that's part of Krisiun's sound and also part of the appeal, nothing but respect for Max and the band. I'm guessing Frost video is on the way? He's another one that might be considered chaotic but also a beast on other levels
love you mentioned Robin Stone, hes a fucking monster and ridiculously clean. would love to see him on here one day to explain his configuration and blast technique.
I always thought "dechristianize" was a super tough song to play on drums, but After seeing your 10min grind video and the 1 hour double bass video, I'm intrigued, can you make a video telling us what are the most tiring songs to play on drums? We love lists.
Please do George Kollias or Tony Laureano. Both Nile drummers. Well Tony only did In Their Darkened Shrines and George followed after and has been with Nile since 2004
Hey Marthyn great videos how about a react video to jan “blastphemer” benkwitz’ behemoth diamonos play through , was the 1st extreme drumming video I found on RU-vid and put me on the path to your channel , to me looks like great technique and skill, also the belphegor link 🤘
1:03 The recording is so muddy (video and audio), I can't even tell what he's doing on the snare. Suggestion for future videos; pick videos to review that are more clear. Love your content as always, Marthyn!
Hey Marthyn! Da du deine „Drumteacher-Reacts-Reihe nun seit einiger Zeit wieder aufgenommen hast, wird doch wirklich mal Zeit für Martin Marthus Škaroupka - Cradle of Filth, Masterplan, Inner Fear. Grüße aus Bonn 👋🏼
I lived in the city where the band started and I've heard stories that in the beginning, Max practiced double pedal with bricks on his feet. How? I dont know.
Love your new Video Style and Iam a big fan of your Drum Teacher react series. Could you pls do a reaction video about Dennis Ritchie, Drummer of Macabre ?
Back in the day,Max played like this throughout the whole show,like 40 minutes straight,before Krisiun had any groovy songs. Damn difficult to execute. Holds his right stick backwards.
The triplet double bass blast beats are impressive for what they are, but they sound too weird for my ears to enjoy. No hate just not my favorite style. Always love these videos!
@@SGTBlain a few days ago I came back home at 4am, drunk from partying with non metal buddies. First thing I do before going to bed is fire a J and play the first three songs from the Great execution by Krisiun. It cleansed my soul.. In fact imma do that right now
The old drummer for Aborted, pre-Bedene (I assume!), did that triplet style every time instead of hitting sixteenths w feet on bomb blasts....just made it more difficult to listen to, like it splits blastbeats into two aspects that have to be listened to separately instead of one solid unit! I could see using that beat, especially at more modest tempos, but not as a go-to. On the Aborted/Christ Denied split, which was my intro to Aborted, he was doing it in that era. Early 2000s. Never understood it as a young drummer, and never cared for it as a mature drummer 😄
That anyone can tell weather the double bass drum is tight at that speed? , it would be easier to convince me that if you stuck a vibrator in your ear you can hear triplets but then I'm not a drummer .
Personally, I miss when drummers were a bit "sloppy" and chaotic all in the pursuit of extreme speed. Everything now is so precise and it's really not exciting to listen to. Fast and perfect is impressive but has no vibe.
I totally agree with you. Metal should have that unhinged, reckless element in the rhythms or it just seems to loose velocity. Good metal should make you want to throw a brick through your neighbors window, If it is pretty, and perfect, no matter how fast or technically proficient it just doesn't do it for me.
This exact realization came to me some years ago. It's very interesting for your own playing as well as listeners if you can play "messy" on demand, but then also play precise again. for example check out: Meinl Cymbals - John Longstreth - "Into The Storm Of Steel"
@@ArcticChonk fuck yeah, exactly. Look at "prowler in the yard" by Pig Destroyer, that album is an absolute work of art. Everything put into it comes together in such a way as to be one of the most effective releases that I have ever been made aware of. And the very unprocessed sound of the drums tonality coupled with a very live feel of it's interaction with the guitar and vocal parts is no small part of that. Check out anything Today is the Day has released from about "temple of the morning star" onward and think about what a perfect drum track would do to that raw and violent way they come off. It would lose its potency completely to do the same albums with an unlimited budget. Brutal Truth is another great example if I can use another grindcore band. "sounds of the animal kingdom", "kill trend suicide".....those albums have it. Suffocation's first ep is the most brutal recording they have ever made. Music inspired by the worst in human tendency has much to overcome if it's captured by the best recording technology with the band not necessarily even in the same goddamn building together. It's just counterproductive to be in the practice of polishing up a turd to sell. People who like to play with shit, write poems across the walls, jerk off with it, they don't want glistening clean poop. They want the real shit! Black metal, depending on the angle it's coming from can really go either way. It doesn't have to be one way or the other it just had to reflect where it's coming from. Proggy metal, djent, stuff like that does benefit from being technically perfect because being perfect is it's inspiration.......technically. Metal in the 80's had alot of attention paid to things that were more worried as to wether or not a bunch of girls would show up to see em play and it kind of caved in on itself when it's antithesis reared its head in the form of Nirvana and the grunge movement. We have the shit hole industrial towns like Birmingham to thank for Black Sabbath. The over the top vision from 70's concept albums to thank for the rebellion found in the punk that followed in it's wake. People seem to be able to smell something disingenuous. Beavis and Butt-Head, as knuckleheaded as they were they knew art pretty well and they caught every poser who tried to hand them a fake I.D. 90% of people in the world haven't a clue so people are lining up all the way around the block to try and sell their souls but they can never inspire a government being overthrown or even the value of working hard to be happy and feel satisfied ever day. Art never became the end of a war or a drought or a disease. It's not immediately needed in times when steel and soldiers have ceased to arrive. It's time was when the underclass were being stomped into the ground by the boots of oppression. Without any means of bringing them together into a greater whole they die and nobody remembers them. Ideas conveyed within art are the only hope of bringing an army to fight for the right to exist. And that's one reason that we NEED art. And we need it to be honest and effective if it's intention is to be taken seriously. Life is ugly and unrewarding and the downtrodden need a good reason to not simply lie down and die so don't pull up like you are one of them and then start getting mad when those people share your creative output amongst themselves, then after commercial success makes them forget their strife and turn into a bunch of selfish bitches. Anyways, I'm sure I got my point across. People identify with things that are able to speak to them so be true to who you are and what you do.
Problem is that he is doing triplets because he's not reaching the same tempo that he is doing with the hands. He's awesome, creative and pioneer, but it is impossible to justify him with maths. Both facts. I love him, but all of us know that it's not a technique. All amateur drummers that try it can sound like that. Oh, not, they haven't that posh triggers. True. As always, great video, thanks a lot for your content. Saw you with Belphegor live, you're brutally elegant. Big hug.
Gene Hoglan also benefits from not crossing his hands for the hi hat, he does like a open hand hi hat with his hats super low from the videos I've seen.
