not considering that this video clip is super old..... wtf was that game`? silver? where the jungler doesnt even help u break the freeze for once in 10 minutes? that mustve been below diamond ...
@@Foatizenknechtl Most of junglers even in high elo don't even bother helping such lost lanes, better focus on mid/bot and invading jgl rather than revealing his position in top + getting further from your ressources
I know right? You pick Vayne top and you expect people to take pity on you and "just play"? Bro, you decided that you weren't going to "play" the moment you locked in that shit :I
@@SkyMarshalEmir vayne top is viable, but vayne had ryze jng. If the jng came top and helped her broke the freeze the game would have gone different, but ryze jng is useless so he couldn't help her and as a result she couldn't play the game.
@@AlexGamer87 Obviously the jungler was supposed to help her break the freeze, but the issue is that by picking Vayne top lane that guy forfeit all his basic rights as a laner and as a human being.
i love how this is a year-old clip but everyone just got it in their recommended a few days ago Edit: i see the algorithm just dished this out to a new wave of people. Enjoy your stay folks
Kled complaning about his toplaner not roaming when he is getting a 150 cs lead. Impossible for him to just not die and let camille make it a 5v4, what a specimen lol
Thats the average persons mentality. Just cause they are high elo dosent mean they wont have an irrational ego. People just wont let themselves get carried or play another style. They gotta be the driver on the gas every bus ride. You need to ego to climb but you gotta dial it back at some point or you just plateu. Also the gap in mentality and skill level between a top challenger and master tier player may as well be 5 divisions.
@@richter9485 honestly, even if you play in flex, or in general, some people are just like "i lost my lane, the game is over". They only play for the 1 v 1and once the enemy is ahead they are not willing to play safe and rather try to always outplay and risk a feed rather than to chill and let them get carried by their hyperfed mates.
@@Basher252 I agree to some extent, but sometimes the game is just lost and u have to try risky plays hoping to get back into the game. Talking when the majority of lanes lost.
@@Stefan-gj5zi yeah if the game is lost. But some Play for only risky Plays because they are desperate to carry by themselves so they keep forcing plays that are maybe 2/10 succesful. It is not something you can Play around especially with a 5 man roster
Thanking Dr.Ututt for cho gath ulting my arch enemy from a parallel universe and saving my future wedding by letting me borrow his lambo, such a generous man
I remember a game where I was playing Sion against a Camille, in a normal trying to learn how to play the role, and mf pulled a 7 minute freeze. It was 3 years ago, trauma still hitting me every night.
I know its been 7 months, and you likely don't play league or have learned how to solve this. However the idea of having a freeze stay as Sion is depressing. You just ult their incoming wave and die to tower.
@@spacehitler4537 Nah, I just proxy and make him choose. A chance to get 300g or take the exp, not both, all the while I get farm without a chance of missing cs and having the execute option in case I get into trouble
I feel so fucking bad for the vayne but at the same time this is also so fucking satisfying to watch... I'm putting this in my bucket list to do before I die -- making ranged top laners suffer by perma freezing for 5+ minutes
I did something similar with Tryndamere yesterday to a Lucian top. I froze the wave to my tower, for about 3 min. After, I start building a big wave into him to force a dive, because I was level 6 and he was 4. I dived him, he died and ragequit. 😂😂
that's basically the most efficient way to get someone out of the game in early, not killing 3 or 4 times in a row, just one with a huge wave, so nice for you
@@uniques.5443 It's a waste of time, Vayne is already so behind she can't stop Camille creating another freeze even if she crash the wave with ryze. Camille would just slowpush waves and bounce it at tower right after as vayne can't contest it or even clear it fast enough to stop the wave bouncing
For new players that have this happen to them, the solution is to roam to another lane or invade with your jungler. That will force your laning opponent to shove the wave back where you can try to collect it. This is easier with tp, which the Vayne even had in this clip. You're still probably going to get massively behind, but you're in the game. The worst thing to do is sit in lane without getting cs or xp like this Vayne. If you do that your opponent has no reason not to keep the freeze up indefinitely.
or you could just ask your jgl to break the freeze , even if you roam you might not get the other laner to push , maybe the other lanes are playing safe and you dont see an opportunity , plus if u invade with jg they could leave the freeze alone (if they have 4 more minions than other side) and then walk to help the jg with their most likely 1 lvl advantage over you
It doesn't force anything, you have around a 50% chance to get 300g and less xp than a wave. You are still losing more than you are gaining unless you have a great ganking champion or the enemy laners are playing into the ganks
@@opo33333 Imagine botlane getting ganked by top and jg then sit in a bush after kills and kill em again when they come back to lane. So... Now in enemy team are two players behind instead of one (you) in yours. XP doesnt matter when u play smart.
This is honestly one of the greatest league of legends video I have ever seen. Truly we are blessed, divine punishment for vayne top players. Its so satisfying
I love that if you make a range toplaner go through the most vile, soul-shredding, agonizing experience, no one would stop that cuz their are range toplaners and they deserve that
And with the release of akshan, everything changed, drut left camille with 6 sons and without paying the money, and he just go with infidel range top kayle and akshan
I mean vayne is probably adc main and freezing just doesn’t exist in botöane. Either the adc or sup doesn’t get the concept and will just randomly start pushing.
Ur probably right since in my experience as a support main for just 1 division my adc dont even know how to freeze like when i tell my adc to freeze only 1 guy out of 4 guy listen and want to know what is freeze and she (vayne) also says shes not a toplane main and probably a botlane main
The problem I face with freezing in soloq is, I can have 80cs at 10min and opponent 20, but i will still be weaker than enemy on different position who not only got 80cs, but also was gifted 10 kills
Think about it like this. Just do the best you can. Because if you have those kinda teammates its a loss anyway. Make sure the only thing making you lose is unlucky matchmaking
i mean 60 cs diff is enough for you to completely take over the entire game. You at some point should stop, shove wave under tower and dive, get 5 plates and win for free (thats if you play champs that get lane leads to win)
except vaynes jungler is a ryze who is behind.. he cant come force the wave under tower. he will die. Ryze jng is the reason he was allowed to do this to vayne
Imagine a degenerate Vayne (they always want to cheese top with adc picks), complaining about not being able to farm lolz, what’s worse is that he ain’t even a top laner but decides to pick Vayne!
probably ryze (enemy jungler) was in the other side of the map and didnt came top until it was too late (by too late i mean camille having massive level lead that could just 2v1 them)
He could have minimized minion dmg taken by repeatetly entering and leabing brush, if it wasnt a dead won game or earlier into the game this could be the difference between continue to win or lose. Idk its nitpicking but idk why you would get lazy with it when you are basically playin freeze simularor...might aswell go for perfect form