I suggest you busy yourself with a computer and learn to make CGI for free, that's the only way they will do it, even then the cost of remastering the film content will be no small expense on its own.
@@XDanW91 I think it would perhaps press them to make a new master of the film prints, but not the CG - that would need artists to contribute their own free time to it for it to be viable in their eyes.
@@mnomadvfx If they can do it with TNG they can do it with ds9. Hell even the wire was shot entirely to be 4:3 and they managed to master it in widescreen with digitally removing things that were meant to be out of frame. Plenty of shows had to go through different obstacles to rerelease in HD. They can figure it out. I suspect the real reason is because unlike when TNG rereleased there is now new "star trek" (and i use that term loosely) being aired. They know ds9 would completely upstage this current new trash which is already on life support and roundly despised.
I like Damar's little smile when he's having the third drink with Quark. It's kinda like he knows that Quark wants to know what Damar's secret is and Damar knows that Quark is going to ply him with alcohol until he finds out. It's almost like Damar's thinking, yeah, I know what you're doing, so I'm going to get free drinks out of you to take advantage, but I'm still not going to tell you. Of course he did in the end.
@@DivinePearl He certainly did later. But here I always took as more being what he expected of Quark and Ferengi in general. The Ferengi aren't a threat, especially not in the eyes of particularly arrogant Cardassians. Quark wants to know, but Damar is dumb/naïve enough to just think "Another Ferengi trying to get intel so they can make money off it." Which is true. Quark IS in it for the money more than anything. He's just a self serving businessman and will absolutely tell everyone proudly that is exactly what he is. Even if Damar DOES tell Quark what he knows, Quark can be expected to only used it to profit himself rather than doing something dangerous to aid the Federation war effort. Even if Rom is turning out to be a bit of a "deviant" by Ferengi standards, Damar would never suspect Quark would actually help the "resistance." He's a classic Ferengi businessman. Cowardice and greed are what he expects. However, at this point I think Damar is underestimating just how unpopular the Dominion and by extension the Cardassians are becoming. Scratch unpopular, flat out *hated* by all the other peoples of the Alpha quadrant. To the point that even self serving types like Quark just want you gone, damn the risks. I think the beginnings of it are being laid down here. Damar doesn't want the Dominion gone yet but he isn't thrilled with them either. The war still appears to be going in their favour. But the cracks are showing in the Dominion/Cardassian "alliance."
@@PumpkinHoard I actually think Quark is actually a bit of contradiction. He says all the right things and does all the right things to be a proper and good Ferengi but throughout the series he usually does the morally right thing (maybe after causing the problem first but he never actually intends real harm) despite it going against standard of Ferenginar Profit first, survival second and everything else after that ethos. So despite Quarks posturing that it’s all for profit I think that by this point he actually really wants to help more than gaining profit (though he would never admit it) especially after being around the HuuMAns (lol) for so long Of course this is just my opinion on the character
To be fair, the fight was as much the fault of the Jem'hadar as it was Damar and the Cardassians who were with him. While Damar shouldn't have been so angry and accuse the Jem'hadar of stealing his padd, they shouldn't have gotten in his face over the padd's contents. They should've went to Weyoun and told him that they found the padd that had Damar's idea to poison the last batch of ketracel white to kill off the Jem'hadar to keep them from turning on the Dominon if they couldn't get the wormhole open. That way, they can address their displeasure at being accused by Damar of being disloyal and of him suggestion that they all be killed off to Weyoun and he and Dukat could've smoothed things over. Instead, they got in Damar's face which only angered him and this combined with Damar naturally assuming the worst about the Jem'Hadar was a recipe for a disaster.
@@girlgarde To be fair, that idea may already have been on the table for the Dominion. A berserking Jem'Hadar would be a danger to everyone around them, possibly including the Founders. They'd either poison the last of the White, or have the Jem'Hadar terminate themselves gradually to ration what little White is left while maintaining their presence. The major difference is that that order would have to come from the Founders.
@@MaxUltimata I agree that it's a potentially good idea to kill off the Jem'hadar if they couldn't produce more ketracel white. I'm simply saying that the Jem'hadar shouldn't have gotten in Damar's face about his idea as he already thought badly of them and would think that they stole his padd. I get that the Jem'hadar didn't trust the Cardassians /and rightfully so/ but they can't go around looking for excuses to get in their faces, that just leads to trouble and makes them looks like drunk Klingons.
Irrelevant trivia, In Turkish Damar" as a word means "vein" and "Kanar" means "bleeds", Together they mean "vein that bleeds" which actually is super accurate considering evolution of Damar's character, painful path and fate...
I just shared a bottle of kanar with Damar At the bar And I guess we took things a little too far Damar then took out a guitar And sang a song about the Jem'Hadar (These lines were originally formulated by several individuals commenting on Zach Johnson's video. I'm putting them here because his channel was taken down and they're too hilarious/awesome not to live on.)
Funny thing i realized in this episode. Since they’re all speaking different languages, but can hear others in their own language thanks to universal translators, puns normally wouldn’t translate. But since “Damar” and “Kanar” are both Cardassian terms, that pun would translate. I don’t know if the writers thought about that, though.
Well, it depends. "Damar" and "kanar" will always rhyme in isolation, but not necessarily in sentences of different languages. For example, bajorian language may have a word order like "I shared a bottle of kanar Damar with"; or ferengi may be an agglutinating language, what ad affixes to words like "Sharedy a bottle of kanar Damarwooh". (Eg. "I shared a bottle of kanar with Damar" in hungarian is "megosztoztam egy üveg kanaron Damarral", or "Damarral megosztoztunk egy üveg kanaron", or "elosztottunk Damarral egy üveg kanart", neither of them rhyme at all.)
I love those twisty Kanar bottles. So far, I've been able to find two of them at thrift stores - one filled with dried beans (labelled use by 1997) and an empty one imprinted on the bottom that it was made in Spain (I didn't know that more than one manufacturer made them).
@@Tigerman1138 In a way he did, because his death was a result of blindly charging into the fray without any caution... I guess the grief of the loses he had faced up to that point were too much. It's a pity, because the lessons he'd learned from his tragedies would've made him a splendid leader.
I still say the setup should have been the Romulans finding out how the federation tricked them into the war, hence the increased hostility. Not some BS about their home planet dying.
16 rule of acquisition: a deal is a deal... until a better one comes along 34 rule of acquisition: peace is good for business 57 rule of acquisition: good customers are as rare as Latinum - treasure them 177 rule of acquisition: know your enemies..... but do business with them always I believe these rules apply to this situation
Up early in the morning, several hours each day putting on removing makeup, with at least 10 hours of filming under him and the while acting with a prosthetic that made it hard for him to annunciate his dialogue. Him and all the other great actors going though that always impressed me.
1:04 ''yea this stuff is highly secret and i can absolutely not talk about.'' '' well let me pour in another kanar for you...'' ''thank you quark, but i still cant talk about it'' ''.....here, have another one'' XD
+Jeroen Teeuw Bartender, smuggler, weapons-demonstrator, financial advisor to his Klingon wife, computer hacker/possessor of high-level access, diplomat, teacher (to The Prophets), labor- negotiator, and *interrogator/infiltrator*. I love how at 3:33 Kira's INTEL scanners go off, moments later Odo and Jake realize Quark knows something VERY important.
Jeroen Teeuw I always loved that scene. Such a low-tech and yet *highly effective* tactic to extract information. Alcohol has a tendency to loosen one's lips.
Maybe Cardassians have two livers, so Damar could have afforded to lose one or have it replaced with ease. btw, in that (space) age, liver failure could have been a preventable and curable thing with just one pill or hypospray injection: "Here's that one injection to repair your liver, again."
This show was so great, even down to the smallest detail. The fact that Damar took the drink and then said no says so much about his character at that point
andrew worley he would have hated that. remember, damar led the resistance against the dominion oppressors. he eventually realized the dominion had been using cardassians as canon foddor and had enough. if they had won the war, cardassia would still be under dominion occupation
Quite honestly, I'm thinking at that point (especially taking other actual scenes into consideration), Quark is ACTIVELY acting as a spy for the "resistance" (Kira, Jake, Rom, and Leeta). While he had been sitting on the fence ("Do you see any exhausted Bajoran slave laborers on the Promenade? I don't."), I think he was keeping his eyes and ears open to anything that might get the Dominion off and the Federation back on the station.
Yes, but he was motivated just for profits. The Dominion kept too tight of a leash on illicit activities coming and going from the station so that undoubtedly made Quark quite upset.
He did want to help them. Quark can be really nice but is ashamed of it because ferengi.. Otherwise he wouldnt have told the "II must be drunk to be here to help you" line
@@oldtwinsna8347 No he wasn't. Otherwise, he never would have gotten ahold of Ziyal, had her bake hasperat souffle and then shoot two Jem'Hadar soldiers guarding Kira, Rom, Jake and Leeta. He could (and would) have been executed by the Dominion for sedition and there's no profit in that. What he drunkenly said was the truth: "I tried my best to run my establishment under this occupation. But you know what? it's no fun. I don't like Cardassians--they're arrogant. And mean. And I can't STAND the Jem'Hadar. They're creepy. They just stand there like statues, staring at you." Making a few bars of latinum didn't matter versus the fate of hundreds of billions, even trillions of people in the Alpha and Beta Quadrants. He was definitely a Federation and "resistance" sympathizer. As for Damar, I don't think at this point, at least consciously, that he intended to betray the Dominion. Perhaps subconsciously but consciously, he was all for it because he thought the Dominion was making Cardassia great again. The difference between him and Dukat was that Damar had some decency, buried deep down that eventually got out. Dukat, on the other hand, viewed himself as the hero of his own story. He believed that if he forced the Bajorans, Sisko, Nerys, everyone, to acknowledge that he was a great man, a man of vision, sensitivity, and wisdom, that it would fulfill him. He had an enormous ego that needed constant soothing and reassurance from other people; even as he wholeheartedly embraced being a brutal psychopathic tyrant, he deluded himself into thinking he was actually a "compassionate" and paternalistic ruler who treated the Bajorans as his own children and that they (and Sisko and the rest) should acknowledge and thank him for it, as children thank parents for their initial survival and then, in a twisted sense, thanking the parents for being firm and disciplined with them. Dukat was strong enough (or believed he was strong enough) to be Weyoun and the Changeling's equal as part of the Dominion; he didn't realize that they were using the Cardassians. His collapse happened because, at the moment of triumph, everything--the Alpha Quadrant, his status as a great man and his daughter--was snatched away from him. Damar, on the other hand, was at the beginning, a weaker person than Dukat. He was unable to give orders without supervision from Weyoun and because of his feelings of powerlessness, began heavily drinking kanar and womanizing. As the 7th season went on and it became clear that the Cardassians were expendable to the Dominion, Damar began a change of heart. It started In "Strange Bedfellows," when Damar was forced to sign the treaty with the Breen that gave away Cardassian territory, on Weyoun's say-so and then he was ordered to submit his tactical recommendations to the Breen general, who would then present them to Weyoun. The final straw was when Weyoun never sent reinforcements to Septimus III and 500,000 Cardassian troops were slaughtered by the Klingons as a result, in "The Changing Face of Evil." That was what finally launched Damar's rebellion. Damar began weak but became stronger by the end and ultimately, one of the heroes of "DS9."
Casey Biggs (Damar) would actually drink it on set and what they used for Kanar was Karo brand corn syrup. He eventually became so wired that they switched it out with thickened sugar free pancake syrup.
EVIL KIRK i find it interesting that Starfleet officers drink root beer instead of actual beer. i wonder if they sell orange crush or pepsi in the 24th century
Jushua Plotkin I've always wondered that too. There has to at least be cola. As far as whether those company brands still exist we have never been given a satisfactory(in my opinion) on how the economy works in The Federation so who knows.
@@TheAtkey Root beer was likely chosen because it's pretty unusual to call cola a cola. You either call it Coke, Pepsi, RC, whatever brand you prefer. Saying "cola" generically is pretty uncommon. And of course they wouldn't be using brand names like that on the show. However, root beer isn't quite the same. It's not as weird to hear someone mention root beer as just root beer, without necessarily using the brand name.
@1:19 That look Damar gave. I'll tell you everything when I get drunk enough. That's why Damar went to Quarks. He knew Quark had connections everywhere even the Federation. Damar has never been excited about joining the Dominion.
@@MarkoMM1974 You are at present probably looking at several tens of millions of dollars to remaster the entire series. And no guarantee that it will sell well enough to make any profit. $17.6 million at $100,000 an episode. You would have to sell 220,000 copies at $80 a pop just to break even. 440,000(62,857 copies per season) copies to make double your money back. That is all 7 seasons by the way. Don't know if there is a big enough of a demand worldwide. Most of those sales would have to be in the USA and Canada. And I was being generous with the episode remaster budget there.
I just realised: Odo knew that Damar talked to Quark about their top secret way of getting Dominion-reinforcements through the wormhole. And the female founder linked with Odo, so she knew too. And then she made the man who, by giving away that information, ultimately was responsible for the Dominion-defeat in the war leader of the Cardassian Union and for some time, supreme commander over the Dominion troops in the Alpha and Beta Quadrant.
and that's when everybody in the room yells "OH SHIT" right LOL. Man I miss DS9 I wish there was reruns on tv somewhere not just clips here on youtube :(
It's implied they shared the whole bottle. Quark is a bartender, he's not likely a lightweight. For him to have gotten "can barely stand" drunk, he probably shared two bottles with Damar!
Ned Barks Still. If I had an extremely important secret and someone was going to use alcohol to try to loosen my tongue, and I knew it, I’d stop trusting that person fast, and wouldn’t let it get that far.
... kanar activating the minds like all that xmas goodies deactivate it somehow makes oneselfs stomache filled up w mines; I need some 27 now 🤣🥃 cheers
This scene doesn't make sense. Damar, being brought up on Cardassia, knows what happens if he was caught leaking classified information about the minefield defusing to Quark. There's no way in hell Damar would have taken the chance getting drunk and then babbling about it.
@ 1:17 that smirk Damar has when Quark gives him another free drink. He knows what Quark is up to. Why do you think he went into the bar? By getting drunk he can accidently pass on information.
I always thought it would be interesting if it turned out that kanar had no alcohol in it and alcohol actually didn't intoxicate Cardassians. Just an idea I had, though I think I half-consciously lifted it from Alienation. Newcomers weren't intoxicated by alcohol, but they were intoxicated by sour milk.
Okay, the station is filled with Cardassians and Jem Hadar, I'd be more suspicious if Kira, Odo, Rom, Quark, and Jake weren't spending more time held up in the same room.
I remember something about they used thick sugar water to make it look vicious. But take after take they had to switch it because he was getting jumpy and shakey.
Is Damar just in charge of a group of engineers/scientists working on the midfield problem or does he have engineering skills and we just somehow never see him tinker or talk about things like self-sealing stem bolts?
They had to change Kanar because it was taking an hour to pour a glass. And the actor who plays Dumar was worried all the Kero syrup he was drinking would give him diabetes.
