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Timestamps:
00:00 - 00:17 Intro
00:17 - 01:17 Long Night
01:17 - 02:23 Man On Fire
02:23 - 03:24 Deep
03:24 - 04:23 Inspiring Middle East
04:23 - 05:27 Retro Wave
05:27 - 06:27 Jazz Con Cajon
06:27 - 07:37 Mortals
07:37 - 08:43 Return To The Wild
08:43 - 09:45 The Making Of Thumbs Up
09:45 - 10:47 Bellissimo
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All the tracks used in this video can be found here:
• Test Tracks
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-Sound recorded using pair of SE Electronics SE8 mics and Zoom H6 recorder
-Frequency measurements done in semi treated room using UMIK-1 microphone
-Levels matched using SPL meter
-All tone controls set to neutral

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@DSAUDIOreview
@DSAUDIOreview 2 года назад
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@needaspank2954
@needaspank2954 2 года назад
how do you feel, i like your review?
@stuartdarling1620
@stuartdarling1620 2 года назад
I listened to these two in a showroom the other day on an A/B comparison with a range of music. The top end on the focal is definitely smoother and with the bump above 10k feels like much more top end extension (although I think I'd want to trim some of that high end down ever so slightly). I don't know what trickery focal have done but the smaller bass driver feels like it has just as much extension at the bottom as well. Granted the midrange is slightly different to the Yamaha but you can always use a little EQ here. What is clearly different in person when you listen to these is that the fiberglass sandwich cone on the focal is quite a bit better at reproducing transient detail in the bass and low mids and the instrument definition and soundstage/imaging created by the focal is more significant than the sound on this video would lead you to believe. They're a quality box for the money and while they may not be perfect, frequency response can be adjusted with EQ, while transient response (which comes from driver motor strength, cone rigidity etc.) cannot. So I'd opt for the focals (perhaps with a touch of EQ here and there) for this reason. Everything is very tight and crisp on the focals, the Yamaha's are just a little bit 'wooly' in places, not by much but enough that I noticed.
@oleksandrpotylko8054
@oleksandrpotylko8054 7 месяцев назад
I definitely hear a port noise from focals.
@OMPTraxxs
@OMPTraxxs Год назад
I tested the yamaha hs7 and the focal alpha 65 evo in my home office at once. And the yamaha was more detailed and clear in the mids and highs. The bass is also very clear. For someone the HS7 have a little less bass. But for me its enough for analysing. The focal have more bass but dont know if this really helps. In the mids and highs the focal are much less clear and detailed. So sound more like a Hifi Speaker. I send the focal back and keep the yamaha. If you want more bass take the hs8. But in my room the focal was to much. The advantaged of the HS7 is you can hear clear and detailed already at low volume level 😉
@OtisArcade
@OtisArcade Год назад
Just picked up the focal evo 80. I’ve had the Adam T8V, Tannoy Gold 7 and JBL Mk6. The focals eat all of those for lunch. I am beyond impressed with the imaging and accuracy. Night and day
@pascalmerschaudio
@pascalmerschaudio 2 года назад
The Track Man on fire , Focal has the extra Growl on the Lower Midrange
@peterbigblock
@peterbigblock 2 года назад
I’ve had both the HS8 and Alpha 65 Evo. The latter is more accurate in the low-mids and smoother at the top. The Yamahas are fine once you’re used to them, but the Focals are just more accurate to the source and translate more easily. In some cases, much more easily.
@sagarchawla8145
@sagarchawla8145 Год назад
Thanks
@rsvp9816
@rsvp9816 3 месяца назад
this is what i hear, but the focal seem hyped in the mid bass region, they got a little bloat there but also offers superior stereo detail. the yamaha has very thin lower mids. both have small issues at the end of the day.
@needaspank2954
@needaspank2954 2 года назад
it would be interesting to have the comparative temporal response (waterfall) of the two speakers.
@JohnWuMastermind
@JohnWuMastermind 2 года назад
The Focals are good for cleaning and shaping frequencies when Mixing. The Yamahas HS8 are good for level adjusting when mixing. The combination of both gives excellent mixes These 2 compliment each other for those who can afford both
@DT-yt2zh
@DT-yt2zh 2 года назад
These speakers are within US $100 for the pair, so based on price they are a fair comparison. It's too close to tell over headphones and compressed audio for most tracks. The Focal have a bit more noticeable mid/upper bass response, which the graphs seem to confirm. For a studio monitor, I might prefer the Yamaha between the two but again, it's close in this format.
@user-sf9rn9yx5f
@user-sf9rn9yx5f Год назад
Amazing
@littletownrecords
@littletownrecords 2 года назад
Close call, on some tracks you can't tell much of a difference at all. For the others, I believe the focal wins this comparison. It has a slightly more full and rich sound. Although I'm not sure how both of these would translate your own mixes. That is the most important thing when it comes to choosing monitors.
@busywl69
@busywl69 4 месяца назад
HS8s are really nice, especially for that price. Love mine.
@hadkmusic
@hadkmusic 2 года назад
I watched previous videos of adams vs these focals adam just not touched the focals in the quality of the sound but the hs8 are just there like if focals are 100% then hs8 are 98% close but it is also surprising how a 6.5 inch cone gets so much bass response slightly more than 8inch hs8s wow hs8s are legends like ns10s happy to have hs8s poor adams t7v a7x
@nukliozz
@nukliozz 2 года назад
Focal's seem to compress the mid and high frequency. Yamaha HS8 is a clear winner IMO.
@voxwah75
@voxwah75 5 месяцев назад
The Yamaha seems to keep it in control a bit more in general, for 'homefun' extra growl the Focal delivers that a little more, for the balance and fatique I would prefer the Yamaha's.
@TheCocaComa
@TheCocaComa 2 года назад
Can we have the Focal Shape Twins compared to the HS8 or some Adam's?
@jenshuxley
@jenshuxley 2 года назад
Like Focal more but both good Studio Monitors.
@AbhayRajan
@AbhayRajan 2 года назад
Hi can you make a Video on Micca MB42 and MB42x ?
@djrobtech
@djrobtech 2 года назад
I feel like the Focals are more accurate in this one.
@marciliofernandes1677
@marciliofernandes1677 2 года назад
Yamaha Win !
@freemindas
@freemindas 3 месяца назад
I prefer the ones with the white cones.
@joewolf38
@joewolf38 2 года назад
Focal mid-bass is thicker, the balance is better, but i hear the box more maybe by the front reflex output. The individual taste decides:-). Thx, compare again!
@needaspank2954
@needaspank2954 2 года назад
I also have the impression that the bass reflex at the front alters the perception of the microphones between the two speakers.
@andrewlim7751
@andrewlim7751 2 года назад
Quite a close call, the Focal has better bite, better dynamics and deeper bass.
@romteb
@romteb 2 года назад
And the HS8 like the HS7 are tiring to listen to.
@Charles_Milles_Manson
@Charles_Milles_Manson 2 года назад
But worse mid freq
@jsehmbimusic9739
@jsehmbimusic9739 Год назад
HS8 feels a bit hollow in the lower mids I dont know its just my opinion
@loneronta
@loneronta Год назад
And better headache.
@rsvp9816
@rsvp9816 Месяц назад
I had a chance to listen to the focal alphas in person, the tweeter does not sound very good. the treble is disconnected from the woofer. if you like a cheap metallic sound then I guess its cool.
@user-hu8tl7oi9y
@user-hu8tl7oi9y 2 года назад
Feels like focal made a monster
@pascalmerschaudio
@pascalmerschaudio 2 года назад
Focal´s are so on point, with their speakers,
@beverpix
@beverpix 2 года назад
Never heard any Yamaha that pleases me, so Focal wins. More depth in the sound stage, more balanced from high to low.
@elvinsontaveras7125
@elvinsontaveras7125 2 года назад
Kali Audio IN-8 vs focal alpha 65 evo
@pecacartun
@pecacartun 2 года назад
I prefer Focal listeinening to this.
@kesamek8537
@kesamek8537 2 года назад
Would take the Yamahas in preference here. I get along better with the original Focal Alpha 65 than the Evos.
@Astro-X-Ent
@Astro-X-Ent 2 года назад
Everything you said is exactly where I stand also. 💯💯💯
@JohnJones-yw3dm
@JohnJones-yw3dm 2 года назад
Why do you prefer the non-Evo 65?
@Astro-X-Ent
@Astro-X-Ent 2 года назад
@@JohnJones-yw3dm have a listen to the comparison, for me the old alpha deliver a more defined and natural response. The Evo seems to have a more boosted or coloured sound that I'm not a fan of.
@JohnJones-yw3dm
@JohnJones-yw3dm 2 года назад
@@Astro-X-Ent thanks but my question should have been directed to @Kesa Mek who I assume has compared them for real in person
@kesamek8537
@kesamek8537 2 года назад
@@JohnJones-yw3dm hi answer about original 65, I find most 6/7/8 inch monitors I've tried that seem genuinely quite flat and sound close to source material (Yamaha HS8, Evo 65 popular ones) can make it somewhat difficult to actually mix mids quickly, the temptation to under/over eq in that area 'not a clear decision' often for me on such monitors, but a monitor with slight emphasis in upper mids for me makes the job a lot easier ... that's the original 65. It is immediately obvious mixing on such monitors when you have gone 'too much' in the mids, on vocals or guitars anything dominantly midrange. Listen to comparison video of original Alpha 65 and Evo on this channel, it is realistic imo. Evo to me is ideal as a 'rough mastering' tool and superb as a producer speak, no question. Simply that original 65 has the slight emphasis where I consider it useful in a mixing device. This reason is also why for me the Yamaha HS5 has value in the mixing process. It puts some spotlight where it's needed for mixing the frequencies we're most sensitive to. Original 65 does it too though with softer treble and more bass than the HS5 of course. It's a personal matter but that's the reason in what I hope is a useful description. Pair of Evos and a pair of HS5s as second reference, totally good. That would work fine for me.
@TheReaperOO
@TheReaperOO 2 года назад
Can you tell me what are the differences between S351DB to S350DB because it's seems like there is only color different.
@rdolle990
@rdolle990 2 года назад
Updated remote and newer Bluetooth version.
@drunit8122
@drunit8122 2 года назад
call me crazy but i think the yamaha's sound better. something about the midrange that no other speaker can reproduce. idk, maybe its rear port vs front port.
@wiz8056
@wiz8056 10 месяцев назад
GOOD
@quananginh9446
@quananginh9446 2 года назад
Easy win for Focal, cleaner sound with more depth and details.
@matthewblue7839
@matthewblue7839 2 года назад
It’s very disconcerting how different the source track sounds, much more mid range forward. Why is that ?
@byniasofficial2567
@byniasofficial2567 2 года назад
Focals have more meat imo.
@tomassofianopoulos8957
@tomassofianopoulos8957 2 года назад
Close but Focal wins!!
@Astro-X-Ent
@Astro-X-Ent 2 года назад
I'm really not a fan of these new alpha Evo at all. They sound very forced in comparison to the Yamaha here which deliver a much smoother response across the whole frequency range and the fact that the hs8 has a bigger cone it shouldn't really be the case... 🤷🏿‍♂️
@JaredSchumaier
@JaredSchumaier 2 года назад
Still not liking the EVO?
@Astro-X-Ent
@Astro-X-Ent 2 года назад
@@JaredSchumaier absolutely not 🤣
@JaredSchumaier
@JaredSchumaier 2 года назад
@@Astro-X-Ent I’ve been actually using them in my studio lately. And they’re great. Give them a chance. Not mid-forward like you’ve said. Well-balanced and blow the Adam’s out of the water (T7V).
@Astro-X-Ent
@Astro-X-Ent 2 года назад
@@JaredSchumaier I'm actually worried that if I don't find the alpha 65 I won't know what else to have 🤣 I've been comparing and trying to decide for a while and as soon as I decide on the 65 they bring out the Evo as a replacement which really isn't like the alpha. But I do hear you about giving them a chance 👍🏿
@JaredSchumaier
@JaredSchumaier 2 года назад
@@Astro-X-Ent they’re actually really similar. My engineer friend used mine for a week and barely noticed a difference. You can’t go wrong with either. Buy some and get to using them and stop wasting time bro!
@MikMech
@MikMech 2 года назад
Another quality comparison! Not much in them? The Yamahas seem to have a 'Fuller' sound at loud volume. (Deep)
@JDiggiti
@JDiggiti 2 года назад
focals sound more defined & clinical. HS8 for me
@frattuncbas
@frattuncbas Год назад
Give your money to Eve Audio
@gotyor
@gotyor 2 года назад
better bass extension and punch, but not flat on evo... but i like that. Yamaha mids are more forward than focal and more mid detail. But the evo wins the highs, not as harss at yamaha's. this is tuff because when i mix its all about the mids, but I have a set of yamaha 5's with sub to do mids... evo would be a better set of second monitors. But if I had nothing I go with yamaha hs8 more flat full range sound for less money!
@piotrdrajewski3079
@piotrdrajewski3079 2 года назад
Witam pomieszczenie 21m który z tych monitorów polecasz do produkcji edm obecnie posiadam KRK rokit 5 3g
@DSAUDIOreview
@DSAUDIOreview 2 года назад
Sam używam i polecam Yamahy
@piotrdrajewski3079
@piotrdrajewski3079 2 года назад
@@DSAUDIOreview dzięki za odp ,a już parę dni temu chciałem kupić Evo ,choć znajomy namawiał mnie na Adamy ax7 pozdrawiam
@piotrdrajewski3079
@piotrdrajewski3079 2 года назад
@@DSAUDIOreview hej ostatnio kiedy pytałem jakie monitory polecasz odp że yamaha bo sam używasz a mam pytanie co sądzisz o focal alpha evo 65 porównując je do hs8 jutro jadę do sklepu muzycznego i zamierzam coś kupić pozdrawiam
@DSAUDIOreview
@DSAUDIOreview 2 года назад
@@piotrdrajewski3079 oba te monitory są solidne więc kup te ktore bardziej Ci przypadną do gustu. Pozdrawiam
@Subholik3
@Subholik3 2 года назад
focal
@vittoriobizzarro6205
@vittoriobizzarro6205 Год назад
Ridiculous yamH 🤣
@D-Press
@D-Press 2 года назад
They are same nothing big different
@balizamusic2198
@balizamusic2198 Год назад
Bla, bla, bla...bla. Yamaha wins as a mixing monitor speaker😊.
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