He admitted he tried it out for a while years ago and then said that he quit because he realized these games were money and time sinkers and he'd rather be with his wife than in the phond. Now he is saying he never stopped playing it, lmao.
@@PenguinWithInternetAccesscause Phil always demands for day one viewer despite shouting at other players for playing till the game patch. Bethesda gane he'll always bend and suck for. And Phil always want the biggest despite never returning to any of these games
@@PenguinWithInternetAccessdidn't he spend like $10 for the Ubisoft + pass to play Star wars outlaw and ended up making around $180? Starfield was on Xbox game pass. The only one of those 3 games he paid full price was mk1 and he still cries about it.
Yeah its like watching the speed runners who get caught blatantly cheating and shit its so transparent that he knows everything about this game in and out.
Lmao it’s hilarious to me that he can’t hide how WET he gets over this game 😂😂 he knows all the ways to “get the most bank out your buck” and still spends thousands of dollars on pixels 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He doesn't see the problem with crying poor, saying he can't pay his bills, guilt tripping his true fans, declaring bankruptcy, all while playing WWE Champions to the tune of $100k+. It's scummy and it's fraudulent. He's been claiming the money he spends on pulls as a business expense on his taxes since before the bankruptcy. That's an ongoing crime. I hope this new found winning streak comes to a screeching halt leaving him even fewer actual supporters left. Troll tipping makes you a dent btw
on the main WWE Champions, it shows that the account has 2,401 Consecutive Logins, that's dedication right there from Phil. Has anyone found out the username of the new account?
This might be one of the strangest turns yet. Dave has, for years, banned, berated and belittled anyone who even suggested he plays this game. Now he's casually admitting to a 7 year old personal account. Wild.
Cause early on it was used to explain all his debts, and he wouldn’t dare give the detractors a single leg up. Now that he’s got an audience, money, and arrogance back and he got his bankruptcy, he can play it up like it’s no big deal. He spent a long time after the SideScrollers saying “what does it matter if I did” and since people are staying because of it, he’s gonna push the envelope further
100% and what his logic? The same fans who been buying it now realize all those overwhelming evidence has been true all this time, look at how happy he is too compare to any game previous too, beyond sad
I mean, just some simple math will do that. He played for 7 years. (7.5, but let's be kind to Phil) Let's be generous and assume he only does a single 10 pull a day at 16.51, and round down to 16 for the sake of easy math. 2555 * 16 = 40,880. Being as generous as possible, it's not only possible, but Highly likely he dropped 50k.
I really thought he was at least going to pretend like he wasn’t an expert at this game, but Phillip couldn’t help himself. He immediately knows everything about the game, the value of things and history of cards. I know he openly admits to having a main account now, but he immediately talks and behaves like a whale
literally what I was thinking, this guy doesn't know fuck about ANY game he has hundreds of hours in but suddenly he is an expert in a random phone game he played "on the side years ago"
EXACTLY, at least pretend a LITTLE. I totally expected a "ah how do I play this again? sorry guys its been a few years ack ack" but nope, literal walking talking WWEC Wiki
This is just sad. It is SO clear he is DownFromTheRafters. He knows his way around the app flawlessly, names wrestlers and their alts without a second thought, and that is BY FAR the happiest I have ever seen him when he pulls. He is genuinely happy. At this point anyone that gives him money is a 6 star dent, this has to be the final straw surely...
"You get insane rewards for the VIP" "It's only 10 bucks so I might as well just get this" "You get rewarded for pulling so I obviously want that" He talks exactly like an addict holy shit.
Insanity. We have known for YEARS it's been happening. And we've known how much moneys been wasted on it, all the while LYING about it, LYING about taxes and spending TO THE IRS AND A JUDGE, incessantly begging for money because "he's broke" all the time and I'm supposed to what? Laugh about it and not be disgusted at this person? Join in and root for this guy? I'd rather just ignore this subhuman and not put any more energy into hate. It's just too easy these days.
I quit paying attention to DSP when he was at a low point until recently. Who the fuck are the people that are paying him so much all of a sudden? I agree though. My hatred and disgust for him got to be too much.
I know exactly how you feel. Dsp is not worth that kind of energy so honestly you should just stop watching him completely. I have and honestly I feel a lot better.
@@Sharkmane25 to watch DSP, unironically. you have to be willfully ignorant or unwittingly reGarded...he is beyond a bad guy, he's one of the slimiest pos I've ever watched, outside of hardcore criminals, of course.
Phil was on such a spending spree here, he forgot that he's never taken his wife on a honeymoon or a holiday and jasper doesnt get proper vet treatment.
It's finally come full circle. All the grandstanding, all the "moral high ground", all the claims that he doesn't need to change, doesn't need the rgb lighting, doesn't need the gimmicks, all the lies, and it's all out the window. Phil IS what he claimed for years that he hated.
DSP knows so much about WWEC it was like he was giving a tips and tricks walkthrough IGN guide. Wtf man, at least PRETEND to not know every fucking thing.
This king saga has done so much irreversible damage to him. There is no retreating back to nice positive guy persona again. Once the Kino dents do their inevitable heel turn and the Joon doc comes up it is going to be the final nail in his coffin.
Man I don't know it sounds like a fucking BFG blast like from doom that would make anyone online go dark but that's a big part of where the roach comes from in pigroach he has been shockingly resilient. He has all but admitted he's been lying to his dents this whole time with how clearly he is familiar with this game and so easily dropped their donations on this. I just... If he survives this saga he truly is the omega-roach and his dents are dented down through their skulls so far the bone from their forehead is peeking out their ass.
In a way, Its kind of funny FOR ONCE he actually understands the game, is happy to show it off, and knows what he is doing... on this mobile sinkhole...
He'll eventually admit that he is down from the rafters, once he feels comfortable enough. I can't tell if kino is doing a long play on Phil, but regardless they're emboldening Phil to do things that make him look like a guilty dumbass.
That's what we're hoping here. Maybe one day he will reveal what his main account name is. It took a little time for Phil to be sweetened up to go back to being an arrogant, abrasive asshole again.
To be fair i think most lolcows can also be against pdf files. So idk about that, they prob knew it would look bad if it was never brought up@@IamTony666
Enormous, vast cringe! He basically snitched on himself by saying he's been playing WWEC for 7 years. At this point bro might as well admit it. I know he won't because that'd be admitting the detractors were right.
That can’t be right because for years Phil said he stopped playing mobile games when Kat moved in cuz he was playing them too much. Now he’s been playing it for 7 years. I don’t know what to believe…
IMO its only a matter of time until he reveals the main account. But it will only be to "play it on stream instead of spending your tips on this new account" style of thinking. He will really just say "fuck it" if Kino keeps gassing him like they are.
"You get all these TOTALLY INSANE benefits and addons and new features with VIP! It's like literally insane all the value you get!" He says, literally flushing money down the toilet for a 90 second dopamine hit. 😂😂
Phil is the type of guy that will avoid giving to a homeless person thinking they are scamming but will eagerly give money for something like this and fall for the obvious scam.
of all games he could have become addicted to, it was this one? It looks cheap af lol, wouldn't be surprised if the only reason it still exists is because dsp funds 99% of it
Its surreal. Ape shaped men in briefs with all of its merit based on content outside of the game. Modern gacha games are far less exploitative and more closely align with complete gameplay experiences.
Sidescrollers: "On a month to month basis just estimate, how much money do you spend on wwe champions?" Phil: Maybe $15 Today phil in a single sitting:
DSP said during the Sidescrollers interview that he spent $1000 on WWE champions over the 7 years of playing the game. Seeing how easily he is spending that cash during the stream, i think he spent more than $1000 on his main account..
At this point, at least in my opinion, he has easily spent over 200 thousand in total. The 100k figure was relatively old at the time of the bank leaks and it's not like he has stopped playing since then.
Holy shit this is surreal. Did I miss a video where DSP and Kino did a seance and Phil got possessed by a long dead detractor? This is too on the nose for him to do willingly.
@@thatONEmachine No. He used to use the "King" moniker years ago but dropped it because he was tired of being picked and after Machinima fell, he lost popularity. He ditched and spent 7 or so years (since he started streaming) trying to convince people he changed and is no longer an asshole or a "king" of anything. Kinda went right out the window recently huh?
No time travel needed. All it took was two morons with obvious sinister intentions to puff him up and we are here. This 40 year old man is more gullible than most children.
@@thrashmetalfiend Over 200k in total, easily. The 100k figure was relatively old at the time of the bank leaks and it's not like he has stopped playing since then.
Does Phil actually think he’s sticking it to the trolls? Does he actually think he’s winning? I honestly can’t tell cuz I can’t imagine someone being this stupid, but at the same time, we are talking about Phil.
Yes it will especially since he’s admitted he “quit” because it was a problem. I’m guessing he will go to playing this on his streams at least once or twice a week
Watching this was the saddest thing I'd ever seen from Phil. He claims he hasn't even gotten to the "real content" of the game yet, and he's already this invested in it. Spending $255 now is probably just the start of what he'll spend on future streams.
It’s also further proof that he’s DownFromTheRafters. This is why he’ll never stop begging for money, he’ll never get stuff in the house repaired, he’ll never come up with a plan for retirement and so much more.
@@Dovahkiin049 Well, for him, 255 is chump change. He goes through a couple thousand on the average weekend. Why would he be bothered by such pitiful pulls?
The sad thing is that even if that was the real amount, it would still be pathetic af. Like I couldn't even fathom wasting a grand on a videogame and a mobile game at that, lmao.
@@AstroBimpson Yeah he will carry on about not being able to get a new 60 dollar release but slam dunked over 200 of the money people paid to see a pig wear a hat into the trash right in front of their eyes and STILL they'll remain just as dented as ever.
He has stated numerous times he never played this game and had no idea what it was. Then during the sidescrollers podcast he finally stated he did. then he admitted he had an account for years Now he moves through those menus and explains full details of each character and rarity like a fish in water. KinoCasino is nurturing a cuckoo bird and he is slowly gonna make the fans drop from their nest.
Casually wasting 250$ on in app purchases in one sitting is actually crazy especially since he always says he’s broke and needs money. Like 250$ on banner pulls on an alt…. Speechless!
It's a complete mask-off moment, or it would be, if his dents weren't so special. It's completely obvious that spending large amounts of money on the game is second nature to him. He's basically admitted that the accusations were true with this weird stunt.
Honestly I thought phil "peaked" early this year with the interview. And then I left the Snortex for a bit. Only was just dragged back in to find phil up to his usual clown mode shit, except he's doing it on WWEC. Honestly I hope Secret Limited comes out of Retirement for this year. Just one more please cause phil has fully lost it this year.
@@Swymco how does that make it any better? You can tell he 100% knows the game and wasted 200 soke dollars after saying he's to poor to afford anything, dojt defend him, dsp saying that doesn't mean it any less of a bankruptcy fraud he committed. Hush with your weak logic
I didn't even know there was a subscription service you can add on top. Immediately makes him a liar from the SS interview of spending only $15 a month on it.
My guy this video is fucked up to watch how transparent he is here. He has all but admitted with how he behaved and spoke with this app that everything is true about what people have dug up about his lies regarding where his money he says is to save his business and "support his family" goes. His dents? Dented worse than I have ever known them to be. Just caved the fuck in skulls throwing dollars at him.
To this day he thinks showing an account name shows EVERYTHING when it doesn't. It won't show an e-mail tied to it either. Only shit like time played (if the devs put it in), characters obtained, level, guild/PvP rank and so on. That's it. He also won't show because he's afraid detractors ill claim it a victory even though that's exactly what happened when Kino bullied him into (kind of but not really) banning Derich. He just needs to be bullied by his "friends" to be truthful.
This is why no matter how much money DSP gets, it will never go towards fixing stuff in the house, blood work for Jasper, rainy day fund or simply save it for retirement. He is incapable of saving money.
It doesn't help he's paying the Government back for attempted tax fraud too... so maybe there's an actual reason for "decrying poor" all the time even if it's scummy to do so.
@@MLPIceberg He's committing ongoing fraud by claiming $5k in business expenses every month. If you believe him almost everything he gets is donated and regardless his business expenses wouldn't total anywhere near $60k annually. He mostly plays whatever's free on Game Pass.
@@MLPIceberg what? No, really, what? Stop right there, I'm poor as Heck bur you don't see me blowing 500k, committing bankruptcy fraud then pretending to be poor after, dude kidding me, right? Dsp has made good money alone this year from begging, he. Shouldnt. Be. Poor at all lol so get lost with your logic and keep your mind open to the truth.
To be honest though, this is really like the typical American. Most americans are maxed out, spending every cent they get their hands on, and just casually declaring bankruptcy, defrauding taxes, and stiffing people to float them through. They dont regret it for a second I wish this kind of thing was rare, but it's not. It's RAMPANT Why do you think so many people are DESPERATE for student loan forgiveness? Most of them are little DSPs that goofed off on school, were NEVER planning on paying it back, and now vote begging to get money for it
He just spent $255 on WWE Champions in this stream. There are 52 weeks in a year. So if that is the average amount he spends on the game everytime he plays - which I really hope not - and he plays once a week, that is $13,260 a year on this game alone. But if we assume the worst and say he plays everyday, and that is the average amount he spends, than if we multiply that number by 7 for everyday of the week - and this is where things get rough with how the calender works - we get $92,820 a year. Multiply that by the 7 years he's been playing, and we have an insane $649,740.
I don't think we can say he spends that much on average since he hasn't gotten money like he has recently in a while. But it definitely shows what a black hole it is for any money given to him.
@@NervousNoodles I still don't think Kino is pulling an op, but if they are, that's the end goal. Who cares if you play WWEC? > You're really good at WWEC, but you're not the best, this DownFromTheRafters guy is > You're DownFromTheRafters.
@@TheDapperDragonit'd be better if they had pretended to not know that dftr was linked to phil, but they already kinda told him they knew about the accusations
@NervousNoodles I was about to mention that, apparently he admitted that he and his wife sleep in operate beds. There's gotta be some financial/tax reason for them getting married if they don't sleep together. I could be wrong
Holy Moly...You can physically see the addiction. The disturbing joy he gets from these pulls. How much he knows about the current new challenges and HE ADMITTED HE'S STILL BEEN PLAYING FOR YEARS!! He literally said we were right and he's been throwing money into this game! Couldn't catch me ever throwing 200+ dollars into a fire bin like this. This is sad to watch, man...
Yup, one of the top signs of addiction is increased heart rate when engaged with the addictive activity His heart went from 60 old man to OLYMPIC SPRINT RUNNER, lmao
Amazing how he went from "My detractors keep saying I'm playing this mobile game, WWE Champions or something?" to him having a damn near encyclopedic knowledge of all the game's wrestlers, events, mechanics and tricks. Look at how fast he buys things here - no hesitation. "It's only $10, we don't really need it" and clicks buy instantly. Spends $115, gets "scammed" and immediately drops $125 more. $250 spent in SECONDS. This is just a snapshot of where he's been pissing away all his money for the past seven years. Just compare his excitement here to him nodding off playing literally any other game. He's in his ZONE and completely immersed, for a game he's spent years now claiming he doesn't play and generally feigning ignorance towards. I've never wanted OIC to whale out harder than now. Give him hundreds of dollars a stream so he can burn it right in front of you, you clown 😄
And passionate. I've N E V E R seen him this happy over.... anything else, and it's not even close, everything else is annoying to him, yet this game brings out his happy side. Funny, if he had just become a WWEC channel, he'd have a genuine audience larger than what he's got, the sheer genuine enthusiasm he has is so clear to where even I was a bit happy for him, and I hate the guy 😆.
Next up is him using DownFromTheRafters account and claiming the detractors are lying about how much money he spent on it. Remember this is the king of semenatics, unless you get the EXACT dollar amount correct he'll dismiss and claim it's not true.
Kat is so relieved he has somebody else to talk about his dupe pulls on WWEC. She and her boyfriend can finally talk in peace without her dumb husband interjecting about Mobile Games.
He has to be doing some type of “I’m definitely not DownFromTheRafters, guys *wink wink* ” thing because there’s no way he genuinely expects people to believe he barely plays this game while understanding and explaining complex shit that no casual would know like the website bonuses. He could’ve at least tried to act like he didn’t know wtf was going on lol
How can he claim he has only spent less than 1k on this game when he just spent that much in one night on stream? It's honestly a joke. And the idea that he can't play on his main account because people will use it to find out his info is just ridiculous. Like what are they going to find out, his bank or paypal? Which he's using on this account anyway?
Addictions a hell of a thing isn't it listen to him he's so excited that he gets to play it early instead of late at night not to mention using your money to do it this is why he's almost 30,000 in the hole 🕳️ hole this year
We're here boys! An epic 7 years in the making. For a guy who just casually plays on and off he sure does know a lot about the game. How to efficiently level up, what packs to buy and fumbling his words not due to Gin but sheer excitement. The detractors are at Warehouse level rental space in this guy's head.
I never thought we'd actually see Phil play WWEC on stream. And also i think this is the FIRST TIME Phil's ever played a game on stream without having to ask chat how to do anything at all. Also, its weird to say, but he looks genuinely happy playing it. I mean, of course, you dont play a game for 7 years straight and not enjoy it.
Of course he will. It's Phil's true nature to shit on everyone he doesn't like. Even if that person didn't do anything wrong to Phil. He'll still shit on them.
@@Daaave05 The sad thing about this is that there have been tons of "if they're still under pignosis after this then nothing will snap them out" moments since the bank leaks (and before the bank leaks as well), each one seemingly worse than the former, and they're still giving him money. Maybe THIS WWEC reveal whatever-you-wanna-call-it is the event that snaps them out?... maybe?... hopefully?... :/
This guy did a complete 180. abandoning his morals, drama free streams, ignoring the detractors, but it's hilarious to watch. Look at this video, he's been exposing himself for the hypocrite, liar, coward, greedy bum we all knew he was. There's no going back for him once the downfall arrives.
