I think the correct answer is a slightly used SP, to my eye it had a nicer livery than the update. Either way getting the suspension setup to you should make it work wherever you prefer. Call me biased though because I'm picking up a 2020 this week.
@@dononebullen it's in alot of ways a terrible bike, uncomfortable and impractical and I couldn't care less. Perfect if you're a loner like me who only gets a couple hours to go have fun. Get yourself a slip on though from the factory the noise doesn't match up. No real need to chase fractional power on an expensive full system if you don't want
For the extra £3600 I would expect the Termignoni end cans as well. Very expensive when you consider the BMW S1000R with semi-active suspension and quick shifter is only £1100 more than the standard bike. Lamby forgot to mention the RVE comes standard with the quick shifter (the base bike doesn't). I own an RVE, and in my opinion the best value / bang for buck bike is the standard model with quick shifter, racing seat and metal footpegs added for an extra cost of about £600.
I would not undersell the practicality of the Hyper 950. It's a tremendously practical bike- if the seat were slightly more comfy, it'd be perfect for a 200mi tour on backroads/B-roads. I can strap on a tail bag, tank bag and go. I love commuting on mine (rural commute) and taking the "long way" home at the end of a workday.
Superb review as always chopsie, I bought one last year and can confirm this bike will do everything. Done 5k miles in 11 months and just can’t leave the thing alone. Love it.
Agree with everything you're saying. Owned every model in the current Ducati line up apart from a Multistrada also owned a KTM 1290 SDr. I had the 950 standard and it's hands down the most fun bike I've ever ridden bar none. Currently riding a 2022 Panigale V4 and even that doesn't make me smile like that did. Just ordered another 😊Standard is brilliant but this time round I'm going with the SP.
@@TierOperator Very different machines, the SDR felt a bit agricultural an doesn’t have the premium feel of the Ducati, in fact it feels and looks a bit cheap to me. SDR is a great bike though, more of an all rounder and more comfortable if you’re planning on doing longer journeys. For pure sexy fun though and enjoyment I prefer my 950SP that I now have. Turns heads everywhere I go, puts a huge smile on my face every time I ride it. The SDR was good but just lacked that special something, could never really put my finger on it. Power wise the 950 hits the sweet spot, it’s just right, loads of low down grunt but not too much that you can’t use and enjoy it on the road. The SDR had more but for me that’s what spoilt it, almost a bit too much. I prefer the handling non the 950 over the SDR too bit this is all just my opinion.
I purchased the first S model in 2008 luckily someone in California made a 61/2 gallon tank for it and with that and a modified short windscreen I’ve toured all over the great southwest of America . My girlfriend ebenezer tours with me and we just love the hell outta the ride .It’s comfortable and gets a lot of attention ( both of em)! Best bike I’ve ever owned!!!
2019 I bought the standard one and added the quickshifter, heating grips, short plate number holder, changed mirrors and changed the exhaust with SC projects. Now after 28k km I changed the bike with a Multistrada 4vS. I had a lot of fun with it but since I drive alot, sometimes 500km trips per day, I want more comfort. For sure I will miss the sound
The one and only... sold 4 of my bikes, ordered one back in April, got the message it just has arrived can go to pick it up. If it's Ducatti it can only be in the Red, so non Sp for me. Lovely review Mr Chops, spot on as allways
It's a category I'd always ignored, having owned everything from classics to out-and-out sports bikes, a GS 1250, a Tiger 900, etc. But in fact they are kind of the most fun for urban riding and short twisty blasts. I recently bought a Zero FXE, which may be a supermoto/hypermoto, and is the most fun, responsive and fastest bike I've ever had!
I gifted myself an SP for my birthday in May of 2021 after watching your review of it. It is everything you describe. I had the suspension tuned by Dave Moss, here in California. I'm alergic to the straight-line requirements of freeways because the wind blast is annoying, but on sweepers, turns and twisties, it's dream. I opted for a custom-fitted seat by Mike Corbin; they scuplted it to my butt, so I can use it to anchor myself at high speeds. The seat position is like riding a giraffe or an ostrich. Lane splitting is a giggle, and because it's like having a balcony seat, I can look down at drivers and all of their illegal shenanigans. BEWARE of Prius and Teslas!!! I replaceed the already excellent Brembo with Brembro Stylema, which must be Italian for Stop-on-a-dime; single finger pull - no problem. Lastly: I go to a very famous Northern California motorcycle hangout and this bike continues to draw the Oooooo and Ahhhhhh crowd. Of the many reviews that I watched on YT and communications with owners, yours was the most convincing.
He chops, I think you chould try an old 990 SMR/SMT aswell. They are still great bikes!! Maby worth an other build after the Hypermotard, they are also not so expensive anymore 😏
Great review. I just did a 4790 miles trip to the North Cape in Norway with my Hypermotard 950 SP. You can do long distance travel with it. It is a great fun bike. Even more so with a full Termignoni system on.
Both bikes look great fun. I think i would go for the standard and mod it to my taste. I demoed the standard version a couple of years ago and thought it was fantastic bike. That said, i still love the SMCR and i agree it would make a great vid to comparing the different bikes (including the Husky) - thanks Chopsy👏👍😎
The choice is difficult, but I would buy the cheaper standard bike . Let’s be honest most people don’t head for the track , and if you do probably on a different bike . Great video Chops 👍, you obviously had a lot of fun with this one .
As a really tall bloke, I loved the height of my old 950 SP. That said, it's a really focused bike and not great for longer trips. My KTM Super Adventure's actually a bit nuttier feeling and obviously way more practical. Wouldn't mind having both though…
I've just bought a 2019 one owner full Ducati service history and less than 3000 Mike's basic hypermotard 950 from a Ducati dealer, I wont be able to ride it until spring as I'm still recovering from being t boned on my lovely 1290 Super Duke R in August which was written off, but I can now walk into the garage and start her up periodically and wipe a duster over her, I have never had a Duke before but just like tuned v twins after the KTM, Oh and i had the dealer fit the titanium Termignoni exhaust aswell as it only had oem system, great review Chops ......... roll on spring for me.👍👍👍👍👍👍😬👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I really wish you would compare the Hypermotard 950 with the KTM 890 Duke R!?! (I may be wrong, but I don't think I've seen you on an 890 Duke R?). Would love to hear your thoughts!!
I got the 2022 SP.. with extra’s and modified the shit out of it - people will do the same on a standard or RVE so doesn’t matter as the spending never ends - both are capable of putting most nakeds/superbikes to shame both on road and track.. but both models need so much customisation to match the rider weight/riding style to get the best out of it - 70+ videos on my channel and I still got loads more to do 😂😂
Just ordered a new standard one but added a quick shifter and heated grips. Just dont think the SP (as nice as it is) is worth all that extra money. If you factor in an extended warranty that SP would go over £16k! + the full Termingoni exhaust it would be £18k+ 😮. I have got shot of my gsxr1000 for this, so hope its good.
Great decision, did the same almost 2 years ago and haven't regretted my decision since then. The Quickshifter is an absolute gamechanger, aswell as the SC Project if you like the noise :D
I bought a 2020SP after riding both. I'm a big bloke, and tall enough to flatfoot the SP. It felt a bit harsh when I first picked it up, but once I set the suspension up for my weight, that "harshness" disappeared and the ride is almost plush. The lighter wheels do make a difference. Here in Australia, the cost to upgrade to a rear ohlins and lighter wheels added up to more than the price difference, so I chose the SP. Our local roads are all B and C roads, no shortage of whoops and hollows interspersed with potholes, but all are nice twisties. Not disappointed with my choice
I bought the base version hyper 950 in ‘21. A buddy on other side of town got the ‘22 RVE bike. Let’s be honest. Yes the SP has primo suspension & a quick shifter. The RVE looks beautiful and has DQS also. The base has damn good forks stock. I go thru the corners a little higher than legal. I’ll never be able to out ride the capabilities of the bike stock and I saved a crap load of $ while having the same amount of fun.
I’m in love with the Hypermotard! Only thing that concerns me is if it may be abit underwhelming compared to my 1290 Evo R? Because i’m not getting rid of the KTM, will the Hypermotard always be «2nd choice» and end up not bring used🤔
Nice one Chopsie, I had the 939 a few years ago but that was more of a tall, wide barred naked and I traded it for me 701SM. I test rode the new 950 and was amazed at the massive improvements Ducati made but I couldn’t afford it at the time.
Throughly enjoyed that Chopsie. Thanks. I'd go for the SP version but with the spotted red paint job option I think. It has a beautiful but mean bird, hawk eye and beak look, like it's ready to prey on the pee ons. Dope!
Hi Chopsy, making an inprovement to an already good bike is going to cost you. Performace parts are expensive because they're often made from lighter materials that cost money. I think the people who can afford it will go for the SP model knowing they'll have something a little bit more special. Keep safe
When it comes to the Hypermotard, save yourself some money and go get an old 1100, ideally one of the last 1100 Evo SP. Doesnt get much better than those. Anything after (821, 939, 950) was just marketing sugarcoating to sell more bikes at the cost of the fun factor. In today's market, if you're after a motard-seating position bike for the twistys, and fun is your top requirement, then dont look any further than a 690 SMC-R.
I owned a 796 Hyper 2013 model. I was living in Bali Indonesia (Australian) at that time & boy did I have some fun over there. The 796 was superb over there. The roads are incredible with endless amounts of twistys to indulge in. I'm currently back living in Tasmania Australia where roads are world class & own a modified S1000XR Gen 2 (remapped & Akro headers), but I'm not satisfied. I have a serious itch to buy the new Hyper & ride these incredible roads here in Tasmania. I have'nt been able to decide which one though. But I think you've answered my question. Cheers
I ride a KTM 950SM. Use it for everything and it still brings a smile to my face .Love these large capacity super motos and this Ducati would be top of my list if I had the money. Great review Chopsy. Bringing out the hooligan in a somewhat boring, nanny state UK👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you Mr Chops,the comparison video I’ve been desperately anticipating for ages.I’ve been looking to trade in my trusty 790 Duke for over a year and love the Hyper but always assumed you would be bitterly disappointed if you didn’t go for the SP which is outside of my financial comfort zone.This has definitely rekindled my enthusiasm for the standard bike which actually looks like pretty good value.Top review.
At 5’8” I doubt if I could get a foot on the ground. Bit of a shame. Should have the Pan America electronic adjustable set up that drops down as it comes to a stop.
@@kaischauble9915 hi my inseam is 28 inches. I ride tall dirtbikes so I'm use to tall bikes. The height of this bike is not ideal for me but if I slide off the seat a little when I stop it's totally doable. For someone short new to riding tall bikes it could be a real pain. It kinda just depends on how bad you want it.
I've been on my 22 SP for just over a year. And I must say it is probably one of the best bikes I've ever owned. The only thing I had any more fun on was an 85 rz350, but back then I only weighed 145 lb. At 215lb now I would probably look stupid on that bike.😆
Im currently on my second 939sp. They’re just a bling looking bike. Dude is stretching the awesomeness a bit here. Certainly not a great track bike unless it’s a gokart track.
At the same price as the streetfighter v2, you get much more for your money, sp paint scheme, ohlins & some carbon, the sp is Ducati’s best value for money bike on the market 👊✊️✊️
Rather have the stock bike for the road, I've ridden both and the non sp was better for the roads, if you're that bothered about the suspension, well there's always ktec or maxton to upgrade them....both of those companies are better than ohlins....
Tragically, I think the SP paint-job would be worth a good few quid to me. Also, would the SP (not) hold its value better? I may have missed the seat-height, but I doubt I could reach the deck anyway, so...
I've always wondered in these comparos where suspension is the main difference--were the suspensions being set up not only for the rider weight but also rider preferences as far as ride absorption/stiffness. .
I’m 6ft tall and couldn’t flat foot this bike unless I’m wearing my Sidi boots lol, always wanted the 950 SP or RVE but price didn’t make sense for how small the engine is… the 890 Duke R is like 5k less and I think that’s what ima get next 🤩
So to sum it up Chops.........you weren't to keen on the Hypomotard then? 🤣🤣🤣 Honestly mate i totally agree with you on all the points you made. I love the look and practicality of this machine and although I've never ridden one I'd know that this is a bike I would want in my garage. 👍😊 Awesome review again Chops. 👍😊
I love your video's!! Cheers. I know it's not a new bike but i would love you to do a review on the Yamaha XT660. My new one of 2 months. Love it's every ride.
Really interesting vid & comparison. I think most Ducati SP's are genuine improvements on the base models & more desirable too but they're all just too expensive imo. There's supposedly a new Ducati Monster SP coming which I'm really interested in & I'm sure it'll be great but I'm equally sure it's also going to be really expensive for what you're getting. As you mentioned Chops, the V2 Steetfighter comes in to play which seems counter intuitive & odd marketing imo.
It's a Ducati. You get what you pay for. That's should never be a surprise. If price is a concern then that's why the market out there offers Suzukis and Yamahas
@@countbrapcula-espana True enough but there's a point where the brand name only has so much reach in terms of what you actually get. Although Ducati is a premium brand so while I don't entirely agree you get what you pay for, you undoubtedly & understandably pay a premium for a bit of exotica. As mentioned though I also think Ducati's pricing among it's own models is a little too close for comfort in places which makes me question the value. Either way though it simply comes down to you are basically right & I am too poor lol!
@ragerider6283 These things are always a sensitive issue for consumers. As a case just folks who know and can afford to pay for the Ducatis, then along comes MV Agusta and their bikes are more expensive than Ducati. I also think Ducati superior to MV Agusta. I can say owning Gen 1 2014 KTM 1290 R Super Duke and Gen 3 2023 EVO and compare KTM, a premium brand, to Ducati, the dealer network and customer service, that Ducati go out of their way to appease any of your concerns. I own a Pikes Peak V4 and Ducati always send over customer satisfaction alerts. That extra refinement is worth the hit in the wallet, for me. KTM, I love their products, but there is an air of arrogance with them. No bueno
@@countbrapcula-espana Interesting. I'd favour Ducati over KTM, but haven't owned either brand yet. Rightly or wrongly I feel Ducati are just a bit more special as well as being more attractive, desirable & reliable than KTM's imo but could be wrong.
@ragerider6283 I agree with you on Ducati being favored. I'm a huge KTM fan. I like their LC8 engines in the SDR 1290 and SAS/SAR. The one thing I have experienced and painful to the wallet is with the KTMs you have to put in the extra $$ or €€ to take the quality up a few notches. The specific parts with the KTM are the stock fuel filters, hoses, oil filters and O2 sensors. Those little things after replacement with Samco hoses, Golan billet fuel filters, titanium O2 sensors. The KTMs are slowly progressing away from their motocross agricultural minimalist mentality. You see this version by version. Ducati though is just so refined. The Audi influence shows in their improved reliability. KTM PR and dealer networking demeanor needs huge improvements still. Ducati's aftermarket pool with Ducabike, CNC Racing, Rizoma, Lighttech are vastly superior to KTMs limited market with their PowerParts dept. They need to allow a wider aftermarket.
I have both a KTM Duke 890R AND a KTM SMC 690 R which is about right between the Hyper SP--and each great bikes in their own right, SO why I am wondering what about a SP to do both jobs? It would look nice in. the garage with my new Pikes Peak Multistrada which I am smitten with (Came from a Superduke GT which really wasn't optimized for 90% two-up riding). The PP just has refinement and best handling big bike ever. I think I would need a new Hyper model upgrade made lighter, for starters maybe. I hear Ducati has 7 models with upgrades for 2023 rolling out September-November. Just maybe.
I absolutely love the 950SP. Looks nice. Fits a tall bloke like me nicely. But still bought the KTM Duke 890R. Could not get myself to pay more for a bike that's heavier, less power & torque and the KTM has better handling too.
Excellent video as always! Well done! Any chance this Ducati media day allowed for some seat-time on the new Monster? I’d love to see your thoughts on it. While the Monster is a very different bike, I’m curious how you think it compares having the same engine but with a lower curb weight and more traditional seating position than the Hypermotard.
If it was the same weight as the 890 duke r... I'd probably the the motard but I'm not sure what you really gain from the motard over the duke at these price points.
Not sure how the 2020 950 SPs are priced in the secondary market in the UK but I frequently see them at 12 to 13k USD with 10k miles or less here in the US. Possible 3rd option for those looking at hypers?Livery looks better than this year's as well imo. Orrrrr just get the lighter, better handling, more fun 890 Duke R ; ) Awesome vid as always, Chopsy! Would you ever consider doing a review vid of Knox's new Oulton gloves? Would be curious to know your thoughts, sponsored or not....
Great video mate! Wondering if you are in line to do a follow up video on the Katana? I know you did one a while back and you said you would try to get one for an in depth ride did that ever happen i cant seem to find a video on it other than the group ride in the rain! Thanks!
for really tight mountain roads, which should I buy? HMotard SP or Monster SP? the Ohlins on my Triumph Daytona Moto2 has ruined me for standard suspensions!
What a hoot. I think the stocker would suit me down to the ground if I could reach it. Only thing that worries me is the range of that smallish looking fuel tank?
About 150 - 160km (100 miles) until the light comes on when riding semi-hooligan. How long you can ride with the light on? No idea. I made 40-50km once on my 950 SP. Not in full hooligan mode. Full hooligan mode, about 120km of range before the light comes on. (I have Termi's, decat, upmap and Starace Intake, which are a must in my opinion)
LC, what would you choose between the SP and your 690. I have a 690 now, with all the same mods you did on the build series. Been having a fair bit of mechanical issues with the 690 and many of the oem parts are out of stock in the states which has gotten really annoying. Thinking of selling to upgrade to a gently used one of these, rode my buddies and the fit and finish felt SO much better vs the KTM. Plus we have to ride highways for a bit to get to the good twisties where I am and I always feel like I'm rining out the 690 doing that. Would love to have that exta top end.
