Still waiting on my Shai'Huluber. I bet Matt Stagmer would make an absolutely gorgeous and functional Crysknife. Also top quality video, Kali is always a pleasure to watch and especially when it's someone that moves like they know what they're doing. All the training hits are "gentle" but with power or a blade you'd get beat/cut to pieces.
dude, you're trying to pitch dune lore to duen enthusiasts. I am not Lisan Al Gaib. Paul Atreides is. I'm just a lowly Atreides soldier, who'd die for his ideals. #FantasyGeneration any 90s kids agreeing?
One crazy thing about this is Dune was written in 1965 , I was 1 year old at the time. Back then he was writing about the woes of AI and how it would end humanity as we know it. That is freakin' crazy...
@@Cerberusarms I like how you do your show , I'm small time collector of knives and swords. Two of the swords I've had got stolen , a cane sword with a Cobra head I really liked and a cheapy I din't really miss. The one i still have is the sword Ramirez gave MacCleod in Highlander. It's legit , spanish steel blade that you can still shave a peach with. It's a keeper. Keep doing what doing what you're doing , looks like your having fun...
Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them".
Rogue AI is a common SiFi theme. See "Colossus", a 1966 book with the same AI concept, "an advanced American defense system". Basically, Terminator. The real differences between these books and movies, is the movies. Terminator and Dune are just better stories turned into visuals. Colossus movie come out in 1970. I like them all, but Dune has sword and knife fights, so....
Very impressive! I've heard the saying, "In a knife fight, one person is going to the ER, and the other is going in the ground." Definitely something that I think a lot of people don't think about.
This is true in most if not all fights. When you get into fisticuffs, you're probably gunna get hit a few times, with a knife it's far worse for the victim if they don't have a weapon regardless of training. I read that the absolute best way to survive is running, but if you have to fight to try and keep your distance from the blade. That is where training and/or (prefurrably both but not everyone has access to training tips from reliable sources) knowlage of how to disarm comes in. There's a video on how to take someone who has a knife down the US military way, and that is the safest and most affective way I've seen so far as it keeps the blade away from your body as much as possible
That's only partially accurate. There's also a 50/50 chance neither of you walk away. And both end up in the morgue. I studied knife fighting for about 2 years Regularly, under an FMA grand master. He's always very direct about this important fact. Its also why most people highly skilled in knife combat; will usually try their best to avoid things ever devolving to that point in the first place. They know they have nothing to prove, and everything to lose, regardless or not if that 50/50 split falls in their favor.
When I did martial arts back in high school, we did a "wear garbage clothes" night and marked up all the practice blades with red to show how much EVERYONE gets cut. Lot of truth to that.
As an HEMA enthusiast, I am still quite sad that the new movies missed the chance to correctly portrait the Atreides' dueling style of rapier and dagger, which is intricately described in the novel.
That style is what I based my downtown ghetto carry on. One short folding blade for my off hand close to my body face, and a long fixed blade held straight in front of me to use as a parrying dagger if they thrust with their blade l. (Don't get me wrong, my first instinct is to run, but I spent time living on the streets in stockton. EVERYone carried a blade, and u can't always get away.. so it's best to be prepared than not, u know? Edit: to add, I hold the smaller blade close to myself in an icepick grip so no one can just shove my own blade into me. And also I carry Buck knives. A 110 and 120.
Yeah Bryan was originally gonna be the fight coordinator for the first movie but he had scheduling conflicts and had to refer another guy for the job. Definitely the right guy for this video
The thing that scares me the most about knife fights; you’re gunna get cut. It’s almost impossible not to at that distance and if equal abilities. You gotta find the way in and get the arteries or ligaments first.
@@Cerberusarms agreed, sucks about that second weapon, I wonder if those open blades closer to the handle are for close range, lean on the back of the blade cut to an enemy combatant.
First thing they teach you in practically any martial art is to try your best to avoid the fight entirely. Knife fights especially, the advice I'd always heard is just run away. This is more in case you can't.
@@angeloah what most instructors in videos fail to replicate is how fast, unexpected & brutal a knife attack is. When i was young i have seen a homeless guy go from 0 to 100 in just a second on another homeless guy, they had an argument about a pack of cigarettes, he went in with a small knife and in a second or two he must have stabbed the other guy a dozen times & took off. The guy stabbed could not even get his hands up and expired in like 5mins of moaning, way before the police or ambulance came.
@@Cerberusarms having any background in martial arts is kinda a curse for a lot of action movies, i did judo in highschool and as cool as the john wick movies are i couldn't get past how in the second movie the choreography uses one specific throw about as much as all the other techniques combined! granted its effective and train 1 punch 1000 times blabla but i couldn't not turn it into a minigame of counting the number of reps!
@@Cerberusarms If you do a Lightsaber video, please do a *series* and begin with a lore intro like you did here. Quoting Cin Drallig's introduction, and then bringing students up through the forms. You can do shorts of form summaries for each form to drive engagement. For a second video you could look at the competitive leagues, the disciplines that inspired, and the instructors behind the stunt designs, etc.
You left out that even though they do have laser guns in Dune, if a laser strikes a shield, it causes a reaction similar to a nuclear explosion. So lasers can't be risked in battle since so many warriors on both sides are using shields. Unless maybe your side is losing and you decide to use a laser to "nuke your enemy" in a last suicidal attempt to take your enemy with you.
I believe that doing so intentionally though is still considered a violation of the convention against nukes. Duncan Idaho got away with it during the ambush on Dune because... it's on Dune - no one *sane* is going to nuke Dune.
In the later novels, the Butlerian Jihad lore was told. Ginaz Swordsman used weapons based martial arts to fight the machines. They used personal shields & specialty designed swords to disrupt the meks (fighting robots) systems.
It's interesting that D brings up JKD as one of the most prominent instructors of Kali/Eskrima in American is Dan Inosanto who was also Bruce Lee's best friend before he passed, and who also carried on his legacy of Jeet Kun Do. As someone who actually practices his lineage of Kali I really hope D keeps trying out the art, especially if we wants to start duel-wielding weapons.
Little bit of a scientific reason explained in the books why they don’t shoot lasers into the energy shields and we do also see it in the begging of the second movie with a harkinen saying no shields with fear in his voice, and that is because if a laser does hit a shield it will explode with the force of a small atomic bomb
Which, if you think about it, makes the shield absolutely useless. Just fire a remote control laser at your enemy and he goes boom, taking out both the “shielded” soldier and his entire position.
Everything works in slow moting with a willing partner, there are only 2 ways to defend against a knife attack, many bullets or running for your dear life.
My mother introduced me to these books when I was a teen, spending my nights reading for hours the books everyday. It was a really interesting video on the best sci-fi universe I've read. Now that I can understand English properly it feels like I discover the books again for the first time with all these informations. lol
Balintawak is really cool to see when seeing single bladed weapon fighting scenes. I wish GM Bobby T. was a Harkonnen or Atreides elder fighting another bladed warrior. hehehe
Quick explanation of 'why swords in sci-fi.' The personal shields that rendered kinetic firearms useless also have the side effect of causing any Laz-guns as well as the shield device to blow up like a nuke. The kinetic shields can be bypassed by slower moving objects, like a blade. Since wars are fought over resources and infrastructure, nuking your enemy isn't viable. Also it is cool. It is just cool, enjoy the fun.
You know, I would love to see you recreate the knife fight video you did with the corridor crew years ago. With the paint on the knife edge so you could see the hits. Be interesting to see with a bit of know how
Good knife lesson. I advise a full fencing mask with throat protection. You don't want to take a thrust to the throat even with a rubber knife, and the throat is a key target.
Loved your vid man! Production looks amazing! I run both a modern combat (firearms, edged weapons, and combatives) and historical combat (HEMA, Kenjutsu) school in Norfolk VA. If you ever find yourself in our neck of the woods, or otherwise, I'd love to do a collab!
The Crysknife reminds me of the Khevsur Shatavari/Persian Qama short swords. A weapon I like & practice with quite a lot. If my memory serves correct, of the words for tjis weapon "Kindjal" or "Khanjar" may even be used in the Dune series.
also, the majority of hand to hand / weapon combat in DUNE is specifically designed around the personal protection shield. "The Slow blade penetrates the shield" they have to slow the speed of the blade just before the shield so it can pass through without being deflected off.
usually with these hand to hand knife techniques i just think "Oh that wont work, they'll just get cut up all the time while using it". BUT! This guy is so fuckin fast that i think i get it now.
Very interesting! Couldn't help but wonder if something like rondel or highland dirk fighting would be more appropriate for the fights with shields, tending to have relatively little in the way of cuts assuming heavy cut-resistant garments or armor, so grappling, throws, and thrusts are significantly more emphasized. I've sparred against someone trained with kali, myself with a modicum of highland dirk, and the feel and goals in the fight are VERY different. You can almost feel the different climates and garbs under which they developed.
Bryan Sloyer is awesome. I went on a deep dive when I was in high school watching a bunch of stuntmen make videos, practice fight scene, etc. When EMC Monkeys stopped uploading after a while I found people like Vlad, LBP Stunts Chicago and eventually Bryan when he made his channel and other peoples work like Aaron Tony and Jay Kwon.
I have waited so long for this video. Since seeing the duels I've bought a bunch of blades and trainers so I can start my path into the martial blade arts.
"The slow blade penetrates the shield." The technology in Dune would create bizarre and unintuitive martial arts; you can't thrust or slash through a shield, you have to push the blade through slowly.
i feel like the sharpening near the edges of the atredies is so the sword has bite meaning it would catch a blade near the hands, almost like a cross guard but taking less metal and more skill to use
"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past, I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
@@Cerberusarms Looks nice for showcases like that ! You should do more like those with profesionnals like him or the katana master you met a while ago.
RE: the "sharpened" sections near the hilt, in the Dune universe I'd say it to give you a possible usable edge even when locked up in a guard/block? dunno, shooting from the hip here.
I read the books back in the early 70s. The movies leave out too much history and complexity that the books explained and showed. Still, they are enjoyable to watch. Yes, I liked the first movie that was done so long ago(80s I believe). Waiting to watch the 2nd episode of this new series.
Besides ballistic protection, Holtzman shields have a very adverse effect when struck with energy weapons. Imagine Vibranium but a break threshold in the megatons. Lasguns on shield = big nuke boom.
The fighting in the movies is a lot quicker than I expected, especially the second one. I had always imagined it closer to wrestling in style so you can guarantee that slow methodical stab or slash that wouldn't trip the shield. Probably just a Hollywood thing done to look better on screen.
YOO do you think you could do a review on cold steels dragonfly katana, there videos and products are pretty legit but just don't know about the katana's yet.
If those shields were a thing they'd just use explosives, concussion weapons, chemical weapons, biological weapons, flamethrowers. Dune is a cool setting and all but if you think about the knife/shield thing for more than 5 seconds it all falls apart.
while the prettiest version to date that definitely without a doubt captured the LOOK of the world (aside from some major character changes like the look of the Harkonnen), it homogenized the story and cut out major elements (politics/religion/culture) - which is why the Syfy miniseries still reigns supreme, it's focus on story. The blades are quite beautiful, though!
You can definitely do more in a tv series than in a movie but I do like how the movies don’t spell everything out for you. Kinda put you in the shoes of Paul the main character
i do however think if in dune they have the shields and the armour you often see, only slashes to the neck or stabs in armpits or side of ribs might work even just thick clothing like the sardaukar have might be enough, see hallways scene first movie, lots of those guys dropped way to fast.. but hey, movie
