Dune - "The Emperor Has Spoken!" Scene (2021) Movie Clip 

Even though it was neccesary, they dont have computers

@@prometheus705 "This could've been a Holtzmann wave'' then

@@fmgallien 👌

@@prometheus705 no, they have computers and electronics, just none that can imitate life.

@@360addict70 i mean define "imitate life". Ornithopters are pretty bird like

@Serai Laksa Congratulations in advance!

bro it cost like millions to just meet for the deal.

Where the hell do you buy coffee at by stamping hot wax with your signet ring?

Oh. It is just childish movie.

When you're this powerful, you can expedite things greatly.

They don't have that.

@@aurinkomies also an email would take literally DECADES minimum to send, theres a reason they do stuff like this

plus, rich people always like to look cool, and to show others that they can afford to look cool. I mean we all like to do that, but rich people can just afford to do it in STYLE :p

Por eso su pregunta sobre el costo de “esta formalidad” , los atreides ya sabían solo faltaba la ceremonia

The emperor deliberatly made the deal a big thing with a lot of money spent to ensure that count Letos Atreides-Honor forces him to accept the deal. Everyone involved in this coup against Atreides knows why this deal was made. Even Leto knows it. Only thing the Atreides didnt know was the fact that the Sardaukar would be sent to help the Harkonnens Be

It's like the best parts of Star Wars (especially Old Republic era) but without clumsy dialogue or unnecessary humour

Its just the 1500s in space

This stems from a deliberate in-world decission. Generations ago humanity faced a lot of problems with computers / AI (well mostly computers, as the concept of AI wasn't that prevalent of a thing in the 60' when the book was written). For one computers and those who can control computers gain a lot of power over a lot of people via their ability to control computers. Power leads to corruption - and yeah, a large population controled by a corrupt minority with access to tech... leads to problems. The other idea - which a lot of Dune revolves around - is that hardship creates harder folks, while comfort leads to stagnation or degeneration (again, this isn't really reflective of our reality, but it's a quite common sci-fi trope from that time.) So considering people leaving all the thinking to computers, leads to degneration over time - especially with the above mentioned corrupt elite in control. Long story short - those problems led to a pretty impactful uprising called 'Butlers Jihad' after one Serena Butler who lead the uprising - which resulted not only in the destruction of most 'thinking machines' but also fixated this distrust in complex technology in culture and even religion. It also gave rise to factions as the 'Mentats' which are basically human computers, ridicolously well trained logicians - like Thufir Hawat we see in the scene - and other human specialists. Basically - without the thinking machines humanities ability to train specialists to become supernatural thinkers, geneticists, physicians and so on is unlocked. And this leads to the low tech aesthetic which the movie brilliantly shows.

@@robertnett9793 yesss, I've read the book, absolutely love the world building!!!

Advanced technology, feudal political system.

they are after an AI revolution, so no "fancy" tech allowed anymore.

Read about the Butlerian Jihad. You'll understand why

After the machine uprising and fall, they don't have any AI or computer-assisted equipment in that universe. Everything is calculated and forecast by living people or their modified versions/clones. Also, the universe has developed so deep that modern standards are mixed in sometimes very strange ways there. Old ways, like using scrolls or knifes, could be more efficient, whereas "modern" technology got outdated - like firearms made obsolete by inventing force field generators.

Chair design hasn't changed for a long time. Some tech just works perfectly. There is no need for more mechanization. If complicated things break they are harder to fix. War pushes tech-forward. Otherwise, we see apple pushing the same iPhone with minor changes every year. Even iPhone is not innovative. They crammed a lot of already existing tech into a smaller device.

Tradition. Also, in the original Dune movie, all technology and uniforms were designed to look the way that the future of technology was depicted in the 19th century.

should've ised some game of thrones tactics

@@TheRealBatCave I don't think fucking him would have changed the situation...

@@TheRealBatCave I'll be honest with you, Game of Thrones strategies are a bit shallow by Dune standards (though I love both). There is nothing to be done, the Emperor and House Harkonnen have already fully checkmated Atreades by the time this scene comes about. If Atreades refuse the imperial edict they are overtly resisting the emperor meaning they will be crushed by all the other houses. If they accept, it is knowingly falling into a trap. The best they can do is accept the edict and try to outplay whatever traps and schemes Harkonnen have in wait on Arrakis.

@@MrCompassionate01 I mean, just make sure the shield holds...

@@Bayard1503 It's more complicated than that. Harkonnen have deliberately sabotaged the spice mining capabilities so that Atreades cannot produce enough spice. All the clients who usually purchase the spice will direct their ire towards Atreades, the shortage will crreate a massive price spike which Harkonnen will exploit using their massive spice reserves. Hidden spies, traps and assassins have been left in the base to kill them too, plus a traitor to sabotage the shield generator. Their plan is practiaclly flawless, the only factor not accounted for is the Fremen, whose true numbers and skills are mostly unknown.

Leto: is it Done?: subtext: would the Emperor support us and not set up a trap, is he satisfied with our loyalty Herald: it's Done subtext: No, death will come for you

For me it is a juxtaposition: "It's done." ("This is only the beginning.")

“You’ve quite literally sealed your fate here.”

Sarduakar Bashar: “The Em-Pa co ma ze. Ese da!”

I would pay good money to see that with two intermissions to take a piss at a cinema.

I would watch it… so many details are absent just like all movies based on great books.

bullshit there is no way they filmed another 3 hours 30 minutes worth of scenes

It would be great to see the dinner party.

@Stevie Wolfe But remember that is multiple takes of the same scene, bloopers and all.

It's a big universe. Lots of planets to visit, lots of doom to pronounce.

Gotta keep that throat and dramatics fresh. It's his bread and butter!

The ceremony

If he spoke the whole scroll the movie would be 4 hrs long

I don't blame him. Shit i would have done the same 😂. Especially if i know the jist of what I'm supposed to say ahead of time

hi

Benjamin Clementine! Amazing singer too, watch him live, exact same.

Gurney wasn't bad, either. :)

He definitely has the vocals for it.

Has tiny ears.

It’s like they all know what’ll happen. He knows he sees a dead man walking but what the hell can they do about it lol. It’s a beautiful and subtle scene. This movie was such a breath of fresh air

yea that delivery is just perfect. "its done." you are in the shit now.

It's more like "you're done".

because it was three words.

Wow you’re like, so deep bro

oh.

*heighliner

The heighliner has to be the size of a thousand aircraft carriers!! Insane to think about

gotta be one of my fav sci fi elements; the power of scale

"Highliner" Kinda appopriate as the pilot high on spice 24/7 they mutate into salamander.

Also, I hate sand. It's rough and coarse and gets everywhere.

@@BoxStudioExecutive Just irritating.

"do I have a choice?"

@@BoxStudioExecutive Star Wars Episode 2 … I love it! Bravo!!

Sure kid we'll find a pilot and a wookiee willing to avoid "imperial entanglements" in a cantina somewhere. 😉

Kind of wish they show more of just how overly reliant the mentats are on Rational Logic.

I dislike it. Everything seems to be about glowing eyes these days.

But I think it'd be more neutral if any explanation was given on mentats. I forgot about them completely in the movie

I don't know how to think about how little several things were explained. On one hand - I had just finished the series shortly before watching the movie, so I could understand all the little details and I felt refreshed of NOT being bombarded with exposition, on the other hand, I feel people, not in the loop might get confused by a lot of concepts...

@@profet1385 It's not even 'glowing eyes' it's more of a fog like you see by some blind people. And generally the movie seems very gentle on exposition.

"benefits jesserit". These are the women from the Emperor's HR department, along to explain the health plan and 401k options for this year.

"benefits jesserit"? Is that the 20 year old single mom with 5 kids living in a council flat somewhere in county Durham?

Bene Gesserit

@@docsharkyI doubt there is a single 20 year old single mum of 5 kids anywhere let alone your shithole. Tory cunt

I signed my military contract in high school, and I signed it knowing that it could be my own death contract. Most people in the military think they die on the battlefield, but you die the day you volunteer. This is the same thing. But we all die, how you die and what you’re willing to die for are all that matter.

LOL

I think he was about to ask the Duke about the best burger joint on the planet.

@@fallinginthed33p ah yes, one of Caladan's best tourist attractions - the burger joint. Authentic recipes from good ole Earth.

I never saw it that way, and I can't unsee it now! Not that I mind because it's pretty funny.

No one read the TOS these days

..Boomers!? XD

They have had bad experiences in the past

I feel that partially has to do with the fact that the book was written in the 60's.

@@justnoobtoo6352 let's just say that the spice thing is going to be not a pleasant experience for the galaxy either. Something about messiahs and religious genocides... 😅

@@justnoobtoo6352 just imagine a world after Terminators were successfully overthrown or if the Matrix was also overthrown. I'm pretty sure the idea of making non-biological life would be a bad thing. HOWEVER it's ok instead to try to breed a GOD. Cuz that NEVER goes wrong either...humans and hubris is like apple pie and ice cream.

Either Baron or the other guy said how they basically overspent to kill just a few people and the amount of troops used were basically enough for multiple campaigns The fact that Paul and Jessica got away is ridiculous Think Baron even said he took out loans and everything Absolutely failure by his whole side

I am reading the book this scene is not there i am right?

​@@Dillamusic90 This scene with the herald was invented for the movie, yes.

Considering they changed so much of the dialogue, what does that matter.

@@arnaldoenriquez6191 I mean the baron quite literally states that paul and jessica would not be harmed since the bene gessrit is under their protection.

Liet Kyenes Because the fremen were cast as sub saharan african, North African, and Arab. Then a black liet doesn't stand out as an outsider enough. Also too young to be someone that has been on arrakis for decades.

@@sl600rt On the last point I will disagree. Spice has geriatric properties that extends life, while not granting immortality, human spice addicts were known to live half a millennium. If Kynes had come to Arrakis as a 40 year old woman, with the Spice being everywhere and in everything, then she could easily be 140 and not have aged much physically. I do agree however that since the Fremen were cast as Semitic and Arabic centric, something odd to that phenotype should have been called for to complete the translation, so someone of an Oriental(Chinese, Japanese or perhaps Mongolian) descent if they were so desperate to avoid casting a Caucasian.

@@sl600rt spice exposure extends lifespans. She's been around it long enough for the eye effect to take hold. Plus, as an imperial agent, I'm betting she gets good Healthcare. Remember, its 30,000+ years in the future. Human lifespans are not necessarily what they are today.

@@princessofthecape2078 Well... in Diune Shani was pretty much a background character (since Herbert follow standard cliche for his times where women were presented either as damsels in distress, minor characters or just... WERE THERE... so no matter who would be cast as her it would have very little material to work out... 😑

@@princessofthecape2078 I can see what you say about Zendaya, however I don't take it as a miscast - maybe she just didn't make the role her own like Timothee/Paul and Oscar/Leto, but certainly I didn't find it unsettling or strange. I'm interested to hear where you'd prefer to end the movie.

The stagnation is deliberate in Dune. Computers caused AI to develop and were outlawed in this time period. Fufer is a Human computer and is able to perform the calculations required of any leader, but the general populace is reliant on their own intelligence.

Yeah, an event called the Butlarian Jihad took place before the events of Dune by I think several thousand years. This was a war on "thinking machines" which attempted to "rise up" against humanity. (Very watered down description). Afterwards, while they still obviously possess amazing technology, none of it is supposed to "think" and in particular none of it should "take the likeness of the human mind". If I'm correct, afterwards if anyone were to create "thinking machines" it would be legal grounds to use atomic weapons on whomever broke this taboo, the use of such weapons being extremely rare in the universe.

@@drnolon IIRC, isn't that why they also have more advanced organic/biological technology as well? I remember the ornithopters being described as being powered by a sort of muscle (or something similar to a muscle) more than any complex machinery (which would require a pretty powerful computer to control) but I could be wrong.

@@Retrolian1000 The organic/biological technology isn't advanced at all. A consequence of Herbert writing before the advent of actual genetic engineering. The methods used in the books are primitive compared to things both already possible and easily conceivable as doable within the next 100 years. Artificial wombs, for example, already exist as an experimental technology. And breeding programs spanning generations are primitive compared to understanding what you want to change, what genes are influencing that trait and changing those directly.

@@ohauss You just described the Tleilaxu, who are distrusted throughout the Dune universe. They're experts in genetic engineering, and become super important from the second book on.

I hear some future Duncan Idaho screaming 'You damned Atreides with your damn honor" :D

I like that they made him more kind and relatable in the movie, as opposed to the books. They did the same with Paul. It really does make you like them. In the books, they're not quite ruthless or evil the way the Harkonnen are, but they're extremely pragmatic and calculated. A little bit colder and less emotional than in the movies.

@@TheAero1221 just like how house stark is potreyed in the GOT show and books

@@TheAero1221 They aren't that cruel, they never do anything unless it's necessary to the cause. Now later on? They go a bit too hard.

It also probably helps that Duke Leto is a total smoke show.

😂 that's nothing go to do with this dialogue

Very much a " good fucking luck "

​@@kashutosh9132only if you can't read between the lines.

"The tone" Also fucking stared at him for like 15 seconds without blinking

Bruh there no way you could have deduce 😭😭

almost, wax had gone cold by the time he pushes his ring into it, you can clearly see that he tries, but can't press hard enough :}

Nah, Villneuve has really linear style of cinematography. Colours and sharpness are on the spot, but the angles are always set to most primal ones.

The whole movie!

Meh. Seems average.

Yeah this is the moment I realized this was an truly great movie.

Any of the Kurosawa movies will open your eyes to mastery.

I don’t understand the currency like if it’s possible to explain what I could get with that amount that was mentioned 1:17

​@@yahyapeters8942 it roughly translates as _"a metric shit ton of money"_ you dont know how many dollars is that, but you know the emperor isnt slackimg on resourses to bring about his plot.

Most likely because he knew, he would be needed for that role :D

Ok? Looks like a regular face lol most Americans are fat and round so you’re probably just used to seeing out of shape people on the regular lol

Herald of the Change? Herald of the fuckin’ Cheekbones, more like 👀

when they handed out cheekbones this mf was #1 in the line

lmaoooo​@@missbelled6700

Was that…(eye twitch) A PUN?!

It's appalling how easily a ruckus was controlled.

Indeed, uncle ruckus was really hard to control

Can you describe the ruckus?

@@roystonlodge white male, 60 y.o. about 5'10", 400 lbs, bald. Likes to fly around and poison people. Like Vladolf Putler, but fat.

Yea I mean, being a navigator is quite literally an eternal hot box

And what of the story/plot department (Here's a headscratcher coming your way!).. what did you particularly find interesting? No like really. 🍷

@@varunemani it's made from a novel that was written in the 1960s

@@dr.vishantpriyadarshi7050 That's like 95% of SciFi

@@varunemani The story was secondary to the visuals I think. Still, they captured most of it. The intrigue, the deadly machinations... all the threat slowly building. The desert, the freemen... it's really the best movie we've seen since Lord of the Rings imo.

@@varunemani I would say, it seems - as of now, as a pretty well made adaptation of the books. It stays closer to the source material than the David Lynch adaption (which I also like). Also this one catches the surreal nature of a future, that's strange yet familiar to ours. I particularly liked that they didn't trap themselves in endless exposition and just let things be unexplained. And that they did a lot with showing not telling. Here's for example: Duncan Idaho in the books is described as one of the most formidable swordsmasters and pilot in the known universe. They never say this. But you god damn see it. Things like that.

Interesting. But the movie later shows a whole settlement of people living right in the midst of the spice. Why their bodies remain uneffected, except for the blue eyes?

@@MaximTsyba The Navigators take so much Spice that they swim in the stuff. _Literally._

@@srbrant5391 But those people in helmets are not navigators. And I believe navigators changed so much not only because of spice.

@@MaximTsyba they will slowly become the navigators.they are transforming

@@MaximTsybaThey will either become navigators and are preparing for the process, or they failed to become navigators, but are still highly addicted to spice melange as a result of them trying.

Sure. There's just no official planet trade without them.... Rules and protocol have to be kept.

And the Space Catholic Bishops too...

The sound alone nearly killed me

@@implodingbaby same! Would absolutely see it again!

I might have enjoyed it. If I could actually hear the dialogue over the sound half of the time.

@@implodingbaby It was awesome. I can't wait for the sequel.

Dolby was incredible.

Not enough voices in the chant and none really deep enough to be soldiers... it breaks the immersion.

​@@baconoverlord7982don't forget to account weather and temperature. For me it is just beast of a scene because of echo and distance

Dude. Morbius carried this film

Morbius vs sand worm battle was legit one of the best moments in modern cinema.

For act 1 I thought this movie was a bit boring, but once he came in I immediately understood the hype, he even morbed on the worms!

@@awesomegaymer5786 My favourite moment was when Palpatine told him "FREEZE!!!" and he answered "I NEVAH FREEZE! I morb." and then he actually morbed. I was shocked they were actually allowed to portray scenes with such morbing on screen.

can’t help but cringe at this comment and the replies

omg same!

this is actually the voice of the editor!

@@kwombok This is the "ArAgOrN bRoKe HiS tOe KiCkInG tHaT" equivalent of Dune haha. I see it mentioned every time. For those that don't know what I'm referencing, in LOTR there is a scene where Aragorn kicks a helmet in anger and falls to his knees and screams in frustration. Viggo Mortenson did break his toe, but stayed in character - and of course, that's the version of the scene that's in the film. The meme is that everyone points that out while watching LOTR. That said - I, too, would watch countless documentaries narrated with the editor's voice!

The guys with the helmets full of spice gas are Navigators - probably 1st stage. They were often used as clerks & envoys before undergoing the full transformation and becoming 3rd stage Navigators that actually fold space.

@@0megacron Who the hell would sign up for that?

@@barreloffun10 Members of the Spacing Guild (as well as other factions like the Teilaxu) are generally born into it. We don't know much about the inner workings of the guild, but I would assume that being a 3rd-stage Navigator is a huge honor to its members.

@@barreloffun10 They're essentially nerds who get infinite LSD and get to do maths while inside a personal sauna/swimming pool of LSD across the stars. They fuckin love it.

I think the black visors are supposed to protect their identity, we just know they represent the court.

"Have a good death"

Turned out to be not that pretty though

"Smile Gurney." - "I am smiling..." :D I wouldn't be able to decide if Patrick Steward or Thanos here, played the better Gurney Haleck.

I really love Patrick Steward. One of my favorite actors of all time... But I have to give this to Thanos :D But this might actually be, because I think the new version is substantially better than the David Lynch version... And don't get me wrong, I still find the old one absolutely awesome :D

I agree! Very aristocratic features!

They really did incredible well with choosing actors...

Yea it’s just a face so many people are overweight so it’s probably weird seeing a person that isn’t fat and obese lol

he's got teeny tiny ears😂

I don't think he blinks either!

The Emperor has a fever, and the only cure is MORE COWBELL!

He's going to underplay it, because he knows what everyone is expecting, and it's going to be AWESOME!

House Corino won't fail this time, for their Emperor knows how to walk without rhythm.

Wonder if I'll be the only person thinking about the gold watch he's hiding up his ass. Might as well go for broke and cast Gary Busey as Feyd.

@@TheCoffeehound 😂

In the book it is made a point, that Leto and Jessica contemplated the idea of just say fuck it and bolt.

Going against the emperor in front of so many of loyal witness would be considered open rebellion. And would give the emperor a reason to destroy them, on the other hand going there they knew it was a trap, both ways ended up in conflict, so they decided to go to arrakis and then plan around any traps there

And... Roll Credits!

😂😂😂😂

Obviously going against the emperors decree, they would have been an outcast in the empirium... that is the essence of ultimate power, he has deemed them worthless, and they know it, but shall fight another day.

Turn off the Close captioning before you take full control LOL just the same😆

This week in: "Under appreciated jobs in The House of Atradies.." 💡🤨🤔 I'd like to meet House Atradies plumbers, kitchen staff and garbage handlers. 🤣🤣🤣

@shush The film itself is well done. Great casting and directing. Plus sound to boot. Dune is a slow burn. Its how the media always been. The only meh thing was the pacing.

when the dvd dropped i watched it 3 times in a day

I remember that show, good pull! Had a neat premise, wish it had gotten bigger.

He was also in Devs by Alex Garland

Yo, thought that show was just a fever dream I had. I'm so glad I'm not the only one who remembers it.

And weird-looking, too. Dune’s spaceships are the most unique I’ve ever seen in a movie.

We only know our own spacecraft as just-about-working pieces of plumbing and hopes and dreams. These craft are like luxury cars, they are reliable technology that people don't really think about any more.

@@aconite72 I would say all our 'space ships' are metal cans designed to barely putter around our planet. They can't withstand a collision with anything. The ones in Dune look like single-piece rock solid start stations designed to move between stars with little to no danger of damage.

@@MrJustonemorevoice the heighliner reminds me of drawings I made of spacecarriers when I was younger.. I'd always seen so many crappy spacecraft carrier concepts where they just took an aircraft carrier then put it in space 🙄 &It wasn't until BSG with their huge hulking behemoths with side landing pods that I thought WHAT IF u made a ship that looked like that retracting side landing pod.. the size of a Galactica? One big hollow passage through the middle.. just like a carrier has a double ended runway.. I like to think that aswell as functioning as a bridge portal for DUNES holtzman wormhole tech.. this was also meant to facilitate dual embark/disembarkation where attack ships can leave either end of the massive ship Also the idea of an aircraft carrier is that it is basically a floating town that's mostly self sustainable &can reach any major ports within weeks making it a HUGE force projection asset to any nation deploying them Theae are the scaled up galactic versions of this idea &even if that component doesn't get visually fleshed out I think that's really interesting

Just because a movie is a slow burner, doesn't mean it's bad. We are just accustomed to straight-to-the-point action. But movies with a good long buildup also have their merits.

An able director, writer and editor. This movie had all of that in spades and then some.

@Verre Bois Why? She didn't bother me in the movie in the slightest. Can someone tell me, where's the problem with her or who could have played the role better?

Yes. The soundtrack is really really amazing. Overall the sound design - the slight whispery sound of the Reverend Mothers landing craft, the otherworldly tune, when the Atreides arrive in Arrakis. All of my yes.

the first movie is supposed to be slow, because it follows the book exactly, that’s the whole point, this is an introduction to the dune universe, there’s no logical reason for you to complain

Unfortunately, it's a tragedy of really annoying errors. It's kind of a gross misunderstanding of the Prisoner's Dilemma taken to an absurd extreme. But, everyone does play their parts well with truly stellar casting, and the movie is stunning in its aesthetic and score. So, I give it a pass.

mongo only pawn in game of life?

It was more than just the Atreides. The Atreides had power in the Lansraad due to their morals and reputation for honor. The Harkonnen due to their money from mining Arrakis Spice. The Emperor forced the Harkonnens to bankroll the entire destruction of the Atreides. This actually nearly bankrupted the Harkonnens. Two threats gone (supposedly) all for supplying 3 battalions of Sardukar and providing off books permission for a massacre.

​@@DoremiFasolatido1979 Do explain

It's true, the planet did have a ton of ruckus

"A thousand legions of elite Sardaukar, descend upon you!" "Then we shall fight in the sun."

@@alricmalicorne321 i imagine fighting in the shade has multiple meanings on arrakis

If he did that all of the houses would turn on Atriedes, not just the emperor and the harkonnen

@@bluenicholasbf2142 tbf, most wouldn't really care and would only send a token force or claim to be preparing forces while actually just killing time and hoping to avoid having to mobilize. But enough would that ya even without the sardaukar, house atreides would be screwed.

Benjamin Clementine. He is also a really unique musician!

The Herald likely quoted the only words that came straight from the Emperor. The rest is probably boilerplate instructions to the Herald, as in "you are to immediately gather X and Y and go to Z within A days and tell B exactly this: MESSAGE In case B refuses, you are authorized to ... etc."

Well the AI rose up against them

@@nicedurians yes I know. Just saying that they COULD solve that problem

@@peterjensen6844 The books tell that you can travel without a navigator, but the risk of dont end well the travel is 8 of 10.

Dune is about human adaptation without "advanced" computers.

I am personally of the opinion that, had technology not stagnated so heavily, that the Empire could have developed purpose built navigation computers without them being actual AIs or have used cybernetic enhancement to push human brains to the point where they could do the calculations.

Nah, in the Dune universe Biden isn't president, so gas is cheap.

😂

No computer in dune since ai took over at one point

Zoom calls in our world tend to be on the same planet though, unless you've actually done a zoom meeting with someone on the Moon or Mars!

@@bluenicholasbf2142 doing an interplanetary zoom call would be a nightmare because of the delay