Dungeons and Dragons Lore: Obox-Ob and the Queen of Chaos 

Timestamps and Spoilers below! 0:09 Intro, Become a member! 0:23 Overview of the video 1:32 One of Many Beginnings, the demon's version 3:40 Tharizdun, the Arrival of the Obyreth, and the Shard 5:45 Trapping Tharizdun, The Abyss 9:02 The First Demons rise 11:34 Obox-Ob and the other Obyreth Lords 14:11 Baator and the age before ages 15:34 The Queen of Chaos 17:55 Miska the Wolf-Spider, the gambit or power, The Rod of Law (Seven Parts) 20:03 Obox-ob is struck down, Queen creates the Tanar'ri, 21:30 The remenants of Obox-Ob and reestablishing power 24:58 Tanar'ri demons purpose and conquering the prime material 26:03 The Ekolid and the plane of Zionyn Like, Share, Comment, Subscribe, hit the Bell icon, and join us on the discord. Always love learning little secret things in the dark places of the D&D cosmos that spell the doom for all reality like the Blood Shallows, makes me want to look into some of these places and see what storylines we can pull from them. Another of my favorites if the Abyssal Plane known as Twelve Trees, definately worth looking into, expecially when you make it possible that one of the twelve escaped and now demons spread across the planes seeking to find the escaped victim. I replaced the mad Deva in Curse of Strahd with one such angel, and it provided even more background for such an excellent character. If you enjoyed this, definately check out the other videos for the Lords of Ruin on Aj's channel, Pazzuzu is an excellent video worth watching. If the hint of the actual purpose of Vecna with Tharizdun caught your attention, check out AJ's video on Vecna, or the video on the Wind Dukes for more info on the Queen of Chaos' war with the elemental planes. Pazzuzu: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4B0PvEZfM6A.html Vecna: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vbtd0QBDjjw.html The Wind Dukes of Aqaa: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SDVpH-5KoCM.html

Of all the hilarious ways automatic CC picked up "Obox-Ob" the most hilarious one was "awkward sob".

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That bit about the dreaming Tharizdun reminded me of the Elder Scrolls lore around CHIM, how that entire multiverse is itself a dream and realizing that fact causes most entities to cease to exist from pure existential crisis except those who have a big enough ego or whatever to hold onto their sense of self in the face of their own etherealness, with the one aberration of this being dichotomy being Dagoth Ur, who deluded himself into believing that he was the dreamer after death and dreamed himself back into their dream-reality from beyond the grave, at least partly due to having attuned to a powerful artifact with a relatively close link to the dreamer itself, the Heart of Lorkhan, which basically became his phylactery (simplification).

Here is an idea. The abyss is Obox-Ob. And what the queen of chaos did was shatter his mind away from his greater self. Allowing her to use that great well of power for her own purposes. But she vastly overestimated her own cleverness in this ploy and as a result was deposed. Now the game is to keep Obox-Ob from ever reforming enough of his self to reestablish control over his own being. Essentially keep him distracted with his own shattered perspective so he remains dormant.

AJ : "You might wanna consider not drinking and eating." Me : "Polite of you, but not bloody well likely."

AJ, you truly are my favorite Loremaster. You have given so many ideas for my Campaign world that I am bursting with creativity during the last 2½ years.

AJ describing the Queen of Chaos *Ursula has entered the chat*

There may actually be 2 exits. Remember,there's also a door in the bottom of Hell, a door the devils can't use and built Asmodeus' castle around.

I'm back again.. Hesitant to say this, because AJ has so many excellent videos. I think this one us my favorite.

I'm currently playing with a Obox-Ob priestess in one of the campaings i'm participating in, using the Vermin domain from the Tome of Heroes book. The party once made fun of her, saying that she acts kinda like a poor version of a Disney princess: speaking with mice, other rodents and insects. Can't wait until they find out what is the "God" she actually follows

"before the recordings of any living race" is not an acceptable handwave in D&D. The aboleth exists

That last bit. You might just be crazy enough to have a need and powerful enough to survive your trip to Obox-ob's domain. BUT! You will take the smell of those swollen, rotten corpses stretching out as far as the eye can see and the unrelenting drone of the cloud of demonic insects flying overhead with you to your grave. Even while you yet live, you will hear the buzzing and smell the acrid flesh off in the distance as you lay down your head before the sweet embrace of sleep rescues you. For a time. >:3

I'ma be straight with you, AJ. All of these videos have only entrenched me further into tabletops in general, so thanks for the inspiration and- nightmare fuel.

I knew something was up with Wonka taking us to a place of 'pure imagination'. Evil bugger that one.

A thought occured to me. What if, to the gods, this creation is already ended? Time means nothing to them so they can see the begining and end as easily as if they were looking at two points from an overlooking hill. The point of the squabbles over souls is to seperate the wheat from the chaff. The parts that are still good from that which became corrupted. And why they fight Tharizdun is because in his madness he would indiscriminately condemn it all to the forges of creation rather then save the good bits to use as the foundations of the next attempt. So they just distract him with slight of hand while sorting it all out.

Excellent show! A lot of great puzzle pieces for my campaign here especially with Obox-Ob splitting into different distinct aspects. In my campaign I’ve been noodling with the idea of Tharizdun’s slumber being predicated on the continued balance of the Great Wheel like a spinning top with the outer and inner planes at the crown and Sigil as the point it all spins around. If one faction gains too much power the top becomes imbalanced and Sigil could fall rousing Tharizdun and freeing him from his slumber to then unmake the universe. This is how I explain Mordenkainen’s insistence that the cosmos stay in balance on the good / evil axis. Some greater powers, realizing they were upsetting the balance, have even went so far as to tear themselves apart into different aspects with distinct personality alignments just to maintain balance and prevent Tharizdun from waking and destroying everything.

This one of your best videos yet in a catalogue of excellence. From a role play persective, it provides a true paradigm shift in the reasoning and actions of the lowliest mortals all the way to the Creator-Gods and everything in between. Even if a campaign never deals with these lofty, incomprehensible concepts directly, they will at least profoundly inform the background goings-on.

I like the idea that when Asmodeus’s bid to regain his former power as the original Ouroboros fails and the abyss spills over, the celestials will flee the mainstream multiverse. But, being plucky adventurers, mortals will manage to dislodge the shard of ultimate evil, send it back to Voidharrow, and enter in to a new age where neither Gods, Demons, Devils, or other powers have dominion over them. Those left will be the remnants of the Devils and Demons brought under the heel of the true King of the United Lower Planes, Graz’zt, Son of Pale Night and Asmodeus, and the few celestials left will be those who forsook their gods to fight and die alongside mortal kind

Ah! FINALLY the RU-vid algorithm hits the nail in the head!

Beksinski is my favourite artist. This was visually wonderful along with the nerd stuff.

I still can't wrap my head around all of this. Fascinating! But complicated. It's all very cosmic horror, and I love that.

I just want you to know... I ate a burrito and drank a cup of juice... whilst watching. This didn't turn me off my lunch.

AJ if wizards of the coast had a brain in there head they would you this minute but they don't do here we are ...great work your passion for this subject is visible in every thing you put out thank you

Love all your videos but man the evil chaotic demon stuff is by far my favorite

I watched this while eating pasta and was entirely unaffected. Am I an aspect of Obox-Ob?

Fantastic use of Beksinski paintings while describing Zionin.

I'd love to know what the Obyrith/demon's forms looked like before their "exodus" to the Far Realm? Presumably much more terrifying that what they are now. Also, were the Obyrith actually considered "evil" prior to their bleeding into the Far Realm. I always thought that the entities in the Far Realm were just abstract and alien, not evil. I'm sure demonic oozes, slimes and jellies must be a "blessing" on the 663 layer as they can dissolve the vast amount of corpses down to nothing. I also never thought of Asmodeus and the devils as being gatekeepers against that level of chaos. I can see Asmodeus griping to the celestial lords "You want me on that wall, you need me on that wall".

That was a fantastic video A.J. Thanks! We definitely need more imaginative material like this injected into the D&D universe.

Makes me want to make a PC whose entire goal is to unite the two aspects of Obox-Ob.

To those who complain about too much evil -- we should have a hope of salvation -- this can't be the ultimate fate: Well, that's just the way it is. In our version of reality, the universe as a whole is all falling to Entropy, to eventual nothingness, a version of Tharizdun's dream, a clean slate of even subatomic particles. The hope for a "good" outcome is pure sentiment -- nothing wrong by having the sentiment, and everyone should, as the nothingness outcome really matters not at all to your life or likely anyone's, because a difference can be made within your own spheres of existence, and that's where you should focus. Also, that dichotomy in a character's mind of the now and later possibilities make dynamic interaction, storytelling, and playing. What use is hope or my actions when it will all be annihilated in the end? That's up to you. Just not "saving" the universe. If it helps, the fate of the multi-multi-verse hasn't been determined (if Tharizdun has some limits), so you could put your hope there, if you can't divide yourself from only complaining. ;) As for all three alignments having equal power -- where's the fun in that? Sounds boring, just another eternal Blood War. Second, it isn't ever true anywhere -- the forces of "good" or for some lawful or explicitly lawful good are in reality always miniscule compared to the others. We live in a time of more Neutral to lawful evil than seen in awhile. Those who seek to make the world better for everyone are a life raft in an ocean of chaos and evil. Pity and sympathy don't exist mostly in the natural world -- they were evolved higher concepts that when actually implemented are fundamental to our survival, though they are not the ultimate weapon in the defeat of the evils waiting all around, only a bastion -- -- a wish we pray to spread everywhere so that we might be safe from the truth.

In my headcannon, the blood war does better at stopping the spread of the abyss than the celestial hosts did - so the gods are instructed by the powers above them to encourage it. Pretty much a case of Ao & his peers saying "you failed, this didn't - encourage this fight, or you'll be replaced with someone who will" and then replacing those powers that don't comply. Of course, in my headcannon, Therizdun, Ao, & The Lady of Pain are those peers - with Therizdun imprisoned beyond the far realm (which is beyond the multiverse), The Lady of Pain keeping the powers that could free Therizdun from finding his prison (thus no gods allowed in Sigil, and her being annoyed at everything over being on watch duty for eternity), and Ao making sure that the gods "follow the rules" and keep the multiverse/prison running.

Today on epic die-roll fails... DM: Lady Jessica brings young Paul to you and tells him you are here to test him. She then leaves. What do you do? Player: I use "the Voice" and say "Now, you. Come here." DM: Roll for it. Player: I only got an 8 DM:Ok, Paul. You start to feel compelled to move, but you can choose not to. Paul's Player: i say "No". Player: ahhh! Some strength after all! I try again with the same command DM: Roll it. Player:..... I GOT A 1!!! Paul's player: I say , "Ooooh! Somebody thinks they can control minds!" Player: i try one more time. DAMMIT! ANOTHER1!!! Paul's player: I pull out a spinning hypnotist disk and say,"YOU ARE NOT A BENE GESSERIT WITCH! YOU'RE JUST A SPOOKY OLD LADY WITH A CREEPY VOICE!" Player:The sisterhood is never going to let me live THIS ONE down!

Tharzidun, the current villain in Critical Role campaign 2. I only watched 33 or 35 episodes or so, but there are hints that Tharzidun will eventually face off against the Mighty Neign who are nuetral aligned characters with most of them being chaotic nuetral or true nuetral.

THIS IS CRAZY GOOD LORE !! FRIGGING LOVE IT

AJ, I couldn't ever reconcile why the demons, the very embodiment of chaos (maybe second only to the Slaadi, which this would also apply to), had set forms. Now, I no longer have the reference material to research it, but I believe Hordlings are from the Abyss also; thought I have a nagging thought it might of been Hades in earlier versions, and no two looked alike. Unlike demons though, the only way to summon more then one at a time, was through a powerful artifact the name of which is lost to my memory. I always believed that random nature was truer to what demons are. Even when I played long ago, no two type whatever looked alike. Similar , yes, but never a set form. A lot of times, I just used the stats as a template, and changed the look all together. It keep players in their mail cladded toes, not "oh, look another vulture headed type 1" , but more like "what in the name Vecna's shriveled balls is that monstrosity ?!" Anyhow, this, somewhat molifies my dissatisfaction with forms, but then, where do the Hordlings fit in, and is there any reference material for them?

I've always been fascinated by Miska the Wolf-Spider and the Queen of Chaos. Their story seems like it would be so interesting, though it's just barely hinted at in official lore. Like why is QoC still in hiding. So many eons later, why has she not made another bid for power. I mean she literally just stripped Obox-Ob of the Prince of Demons domain regency and handed it to another. How could she be so practically divine, and then just barricade herself on the 14th level never to be seen or heard of again. We don't even have a module into the 14th layer just to see it. Even Savage Tide didn't explore it.

I just thought of something fun a DM could do using these videos. If you are in a ancient/arcane library and looking into one of the forbidden books, have the player watch one of these video's. The player's character now knows about the topic that was discussed in the video and must role madness checks or choose if they what to take action/advantage of what they now know. Imaging doing that to a player with this video, completely destroying a characters world view and could alter their whole goals in life. Do they keep going as if nothing is wrong? Try to escape the multiverse? Willingly aid the forces of Hell to fight the demons? Or do they join the demons in destroying reality?

This was excellent. And your theories line up with my creeping suspicion that this multiverse is very much like the Norse and Greek and Egyptian one that long preceded it. The idea being that the heroes of the worlds are all fighting to eventually take part in a final ragnarok. Where a new multiverse will be born from those able to escape the end.

TL;DR. Therizdun downloaded some bad mods and got a really bad virus. He then dropped a cheat item in the test zone and now the game is slowly folding in on itself.

For the first time AJ you finally got to me. It was the description of Ecolids where you made me put my coffee down for a moment and shudder.

Thanks for the video man

Tharizdun sounds a lot like Lovecraft's Azathoth.

I find it interesting how the original creatures that formed the Abyss are basically so evil they go into H.P Lovecraft territory of terror and unfathomability. Meanwhile something like the far realm is just the straight up unknowable part of Lovecraft. Makes me wonder what the Abyss’ allegiance (if any) is to since it seems to be described as almost sentient at times Amazing and fascinating video!

"Don't grab anything to eat or drink because this will put you off your food" as I'm sitting in the drive through line... oh well I've come too far now.

I've been checking for this every morning since last Thursday

I watched the starting 6 minutes twice, and undestood half of it.

Alright! I’ve never got the opportunity to see a premiering episode!

Interesting thought, perhaps Orcus is the ultimate accidental savoir of all other multiverses, as he wants to end all everything the ever evered, perhaps he succeeds, destroys the dnd multiverse, but in the end prevents the abyss and its corruption from spreading.

I have a group that loves Gygax style dungeons; big treasure, dangerous dungeon, normally ends poorly... I think it's time for a new dungeon, and the treasure will be a book with this lore... If the dungeon doesn't cause a TPK, the treasure sure will.

“If your mind was blown a little bit” Understatement of the century

This was a good video to eat lunch to

Fantastic work AJ! Wayne Barlowe would be proud of the descriptions and images that you evoke with your commentary. I always enjoy seeing the improvements to your production. Keep up the great work!

0.) If it won't take too much time on your part, what part of this is cannon and what parts are logical assumptions? 1.) Are the individual layers of the Abyss infinite, or just the number of layers? 2.) Is there a blood war like conflict between the demons, and elemental plains, or the chaotic side or center (the Outlands) of the Great Wheel, or is it just the blood war? 3.) Why are the Nine Hells so important? Is it just that corrupting half the Great Wheel will give them tones of power, or is the thing about a portal to anywhere in the multiverse at the bottom of the Nine Hells (like the portal out of the multiverse on top of Mount Celectia) true? 4.) Does Morden Kanen just assume the Abyss can't be pushed back (or just not want gods to try poking it again? 5.) I have a theory about why the Abyss is considered an outer plane, and wanted to get your opinion on it. We know that the planes are arranged based on alignment, and as that shifts, so can a part of a plane break off and move. Is it that the entirety of the corrupted parts of the outer planes just broke off, moved towards the chaoric evil part (overwhelming whatever might have been there), and that so much of the Abyss being there made it sort of the "heart/center" of it as far as the rest of the multiverse is concerned? 7.) What happens to those random demons? Are they all eaten, or are some allowed to go on, or hauled back to the [things I can't spell so will just call Seps] to get a more standardized form? 8.) Are all of the random demons from the initial amorphous mass of conjoined thought/soul stuff, or also souls sent there? 9.) How do demons "rank up"? Do they need to be remade by the Seps, or do the just evolve like a pokemon when they destroy enough (like an ork gets bigger)? 10.) Can demon lords alter themselves and/or their demons themselves (with varying degrees of skill), or are the seps the only ones with the ability? 11.) Are there new demon "templates" added to roster? 12.) Can demons go "feral" and start to deviate from the templates? 13.) Do demon lords have any sort of effect on their following, or are they normal? 14.) Are demons on the same plane as a demon lord just automatically drawn to following them, or can they resist it and remain independent, or betray they leader in a moment of weakness? 15.) Are you just automatically a demon lord if you are the most powerful thing on a layer, or have subjugated anything in it (assuming there is anything else) or do you need something else? 16.) How does it work with thing like Zugmois/Jublexes layer where it is contested? Do they both get it, get half, or none of it? 17.) Would the hypothetical Abysses in the other multiverses be (copies of) the same Obarith, or different ones? 18.) What were the gods doing in the initial Abyss spreading? Were they distracted by Therisdone, or just didn't notice? 19.) What do non-lawful good gods use for angels? I figure they use demons, devils, yugoloths, guardsmen, etc instead of archons, but do they not have angels? Do they have dark angels? Ones that are bound by their lawfulness to obey? 20.) Why would if have been worse for the shard of ultimate evil to be put in the astral plane than the elemental ones? 21.) Since the Abyss is now consuming an infinite multiverse at a finite rate, will it take infinity to consume the multiverse, or is there a real chance someone other than an outsider, god, immortal lich, etc to have to worry about it (on a multiversal scale, as opposed to the world you are on specifically)?

I think the most terrifying part is that the angels, the paragons of goodness, know that the end is coming, and what do they do? Knowing that there is nothing they can do to stop it, they start imposing standards on who gets to avoid the inevitable doom. Perhaps they do it to ensure they don't repeat the obyriths' actions...

I always love these Abyssal Lord videos.

Why is the Abyss so interesting.

6:25 “while he dreams the dungeons and dragons multiverse exist” So basically Tharizdun is the d&d version of Azathoth from the Cthulhu Mythos am I right?

Years ago, I was in a game where we failed to stop our world from getting pulled into the Abyss. So if you're wondering why the Abyssal Doomsday Clock ticked forward just a little, that was our bad. Sorry.

This gives me an idea of an inspired homebrew-ish setting: a collapsed mutliverse that has fallen into a few select inter-connected worlds just balancing over the maw of the Abyss. Below, the battlegrounds of demons against all remaining life. The worlds are stabilized due to a network of fragile Anchor-Crystals, each of which is guarded by higher devils or angels, ancient dragons, Genie or demi-gods, so pivotal is their job in preventing the fall of *everything* that even the failure of *1* could spell their doom. In-addition to that, in the nexus of World is the Translocator, a world-gate with the power to visit fragments of reality that haven't yet been absorbed into the Abyss. This world could be The Last Bastion [Fantasy Name-Pending]. Things are not the greatest in turns of inhabitable space, what with a great number of creatures requiring strict conditions in order to thrive and reproduce quickly enough to keep up with demand for warriors, and everyone tries their damnedest to live in relative harmony so as to not destabilize their only chance of survival. Gold is worthless for trade, so a number of beings have turned to the exchange of Souls and Soul-Energy, especially due to a number of beings (devil's, genie and, in this setting, eventually celestials, etc.) requiring souls in-order to procreate. The Bastion also has a rather exclusive but powerful ruling body in the form of the Collective Counsel, whose body contains Asmodeus for the devils, Oghma for the celestials, an elected figure for the Genie (in this case, and elder Djinn), an Ancient Wyrm Gold dragon as a representative of the dragons, and Elven mage for the populous mortal races. Everyone of-age and not needed elsewhere is subcontracted to serve terms in The Bloodgrounds, the mouth of the Abyss. Specifically, there are 3 jobs a being could obligated to join, and they can be shuffled around as needed: Soldier, Excavator and Abyss Delver. Soldiers are both obvious and not. They fight in the front and back lines of The Bloodgrounds and construct/deconstruct fortifications, trenches, etc. as needed, as well as destroying anything so that the demons can't steal their resources. Excavators go out through the Translocator and scour World-Shards for resources that can't be easily made in the Bastion, for souls untouched by demon corruption and, in the worst case scenarios, to head off demon scouts trying to find alternate ways in. Excavators also have a subcategory for specialized mages who, upon finding suitable World-Shards, begin work on trying to connect that World-Shard with the Bastion to expand their available space. Finally, Abyss Delvers are exactly what it says on the tin, and they're the least wanted job in the entire operation. Abyss Delvers are the scouts, the cartographers, the ones who try to find ways behind enemy lines to steal back resources as important as knowledge or as precious as entire World-Shards (assuming the corruption hasn't permanently set in yet). Any squad of Delver that returns from more than 3 campaigns or lasts longer than 8 months out on a delve instantly gains celebrity status. Rumor has it among the rank and file that the Counsel has a crew of specialist Abyss Delvers on a permanent campaign to locate and, if possible, destroy the Heart of the Abyss in order to, if nothing else, cut off the never-ending flow of demonic invaders. It's only a rumor, however... No one has seen that group in almost 7 years. Edit because I forgot the one thing that made me want to type out this mega-comment XD: no matter where you go in the multiverse, you can see the rotting tendrils of Obox-Ob looming, massive and ominous and bio-luminescent due to the presence of astral scavengers, overhead.

Zargon would love this realm

I swear the more I learn about the Obyrith and the Abyss the more it feels like my sanity is slipping away. It''s truly a multiverse of MADNESS

I will NEVER look at demons the same way again.

Might have a do such a campaign. Where the PC's have to flee into the infinite staircase trying to save as many of their world's inhabitants as their prime material world undergoes a horrifying apocalypse at the hands of the memetic Obyrith hordes.

AJ, this was one damn good vid...viewing scroll. I hope you are doing well!

Nice take on the lore.

Nega-angel sounds awesome

Again, this video in particular is just so great.

This is my favourite video of yours. Great job!

Absolutely love your in depth coverage. I haven't played D&D for 20 years now but I have been catching up lately. Been trying to get back to who & what I was growing up. And I have to say, I like 5E. I think it's better repackaged like this.

Have enjoyed your channel for awhile and I really appreciate seeing citations on the art you are using now - keep up the good work, AJ!

Love listening to your videos, I always get loads of inspiration to fill my campaigns with, keep up the good work

RU-vid is in an interesting mood. Started with the new gas spore video have now been through: Zugtmoy Juiblex And now obox-ob Next stop: Cult of thoon

I’ve been waiting for this video for so long! Thank you so much!

"...so the scariest environment imaginable, then that's all ya gotta say 'the scariest environment imaginable"

Heck yeah, I've been waiting for this one, thank you for the video and effort put in it!

I've been so excited since you teased this video 😬😬😬

These videos are what is giving me the opinion that DnD got the best portrayal of "pure evil". The horror and malice of these things just seem to be on an entirely different level than anything else I have seen.

So; Theruhzdune(?) is basically Azathoth but not completely ignorant to the world he dreams?

Incredible and best story telling with very good expression ... your best video out of all the ones I have heard over the years !!!

Me seeing the thumbnail: ". . . Pizza for lunch was a bad choice" - The current (now haulted) Critical Role campaign has this mess, Tharizdun, as the big bad. Unknowing cult members tricked into following him. It's a good story - I always love how serious and focused your voice and tone are during your videos. It always matches the subject perfectly. Then, no matter how dark the subject, your regular personality pops back instantly😂 "(after speaking about horrible horrifying things for 30-40+ minutes) Welp! Thanks for watching. See ya next time"

So excited!

That little bit starting at 6:46 and ending with the mention of Vecna. Was that an endorsement of Vecna by A.J ? If so, is Vecna acting as a predator or is he performing a duty (gatekeeper) that fits his new status.

Definitely one of your best!

Great video AJ. This more than multiplied my Obox-Ob knowledge by 10. As a matter of fact, I called him "Oboxobo". If there is a similar being by that name then I guess I missed the mark and never heard of Obox-Ob and thought you were referring to Oboxobo. The aspect of Obox-Ob in my campaigns is a fallen demon god from before time who fell into favoring scorpions, at least to the cult that followed him. One of my Loom of Magus terrestrial greater gods ("terrestrial" is other campaigns' god levels. Greater God is just below celestial god initiate in the Loom of Magus hierarchy) is the Manscorpion. That is his international name, his "true" name depends upon what nation you are in. Unknown to his followers, he started his existence as a manscorpion in a cult of Obox-Ob (Cult of Oboxobo at the time). I now kind of feel I did Obox-Ob a disservice by my campaign's disempowering him (fallen demon-god, now a mere Abyssal power).

I wonder what would happen if demogorgon died what kind of chaos would happen in the abyss

So Tharizdun is effectively Azathoth.

Miss this format,going the way of all things utubes...

The Gods Are Forgetful And Very Far Away

Truly inspiring listening to this type of lore, keep up the amazing work!

Amazing video! Couldn’t find anything about this topic anywhere else

Zionyn sounds like the neighborhood I grew up in.

Just need a minute to digest what was just said.... "Everyone, we're adding sanity to the character sheets. You can thank AJ for how poorly this is going to turnout for you."

Ooh a premiere! Really neat.

Ive been looking forward to this video.

That's fascinating, I didn't know we knew ANY details about the obarinth's dead universe... But you knew. Somehow. 🤨

I loved this video, AJ. You're honestly my favorite youtuber and I can only hope to one day achieve the same level of nerd that you are.

Fantastic video!

Mind-blowing indeed!

In the 3.5 codex it is also stated that there are multiple "shadow aspects" and avatars of obox-ob and if he is ever slain the shadow aspect will become obox-ob and if there is no shadow aspect one of the avatars will become obox-ob. All of these forms are controlled by his consciousness and a new avatar is created daily and a new shadow form is created once a year. Essentially Obox-ob is more powerful than a God and the idea that the idea of him makes a lot of sense. It explains how there are presumably millions of obox-ob but he is still nowhere near his power. It is as if he could naturally regain his power from simply waiting but the concept of him is shattered so instead of reforming he simply keeps making backups of himself without realizing that is weakening him. An interesting prospect. Although I always wondered why obox-ob doesn't just attack with all but one of his forms since he essentially has an army of himself but that could also be a part of the attack on the thought of him.