Duping on Pay-To-Win Minecraft Servers Doesn't Always go According to Plan 

If you're looking for the report link, I removed it from here just so Mojang doesn't get spammed. If you still want to report the server, just Google for the report form. Make sure to be specific when filling it out!

The whole fake sale thing is illegal under consumer law in Australia 👍

Imagine being a parent and having your kid come up and say "Hey, can I have 8 dollars? It's for a set of items on this Minecraft server." Also the fake sale thing isn't just a deceptive business practice, it's actually *illegal* in some parts of the world

the fact they're so on the ball with checking plots of new players, shutting down and rollbacks, i think this is the first time ive seen a p2w server being operated like an actual buisness instead of some people just scamming. Not to say they're not scamming, they clearly are but its strange (to me at least) to see it so co-ordinated

"Even with duping we can't keep up with the P2W" is an incredible indictment of the server.

above efficiency 39, you get nothing more, you insta break obsidian already

The "sale" lasted for over 4 years or more(I sometimes played this server and it was always displaying"sale"), staff and players just got used to it

That fake sale thing is actually a crime in Australia and the UK.

I can hear the Purple Prison players vigorously typing "OUR SERVER IS NOT P2W!!!!" in the comments rn

Its not just deceptive what the server shop did, its actually illegal in certain countries. EDIT: Due to all the new information circulated in the comments, I think it would be best to say it is most certainly illegal in the country the server is listed in and basically every free country in the world. Wow.

"Efficiency 120" should become a major meme for this channel.

Literally doing more then mojang when it comes to p2w servers

Even tho they acted very fast, it’s still a win if they shutdown the server for 2 hours. That makes players go to another servers and new players to just leave. The time i duped on plateou it was exactly the same. The owner shutdown the server for 10 hours and he did a 7-hour rollback

This would be so much more fun and effective if you guys would stay low and distribute over time to have a lasting impact that cant be fixed with a rollback

Something I want to note about the high efficiency on the pickaxe, I wouldn't be surprised if they have custom blocks that take much longer to break. Prison servers are basically clicker games, and you gotto keep scaling those infinitely

I've always wondered why I never see fails, turns out Creators like you have to cut out the painful part.

You guys opened my eyes to exactly how P2W EVERYTHING has gotten. I'd been on many servers that I didn't think were P2W simply because when the EULA first changed, the server I was admin on just classified everything as a technicality "well technically they could earn this, it'll just take forever" and at first that was my mindset when planning my own server, but realizing how sleezey that was I completely deleted Rank packages and crates from my plans going forward and have forsaken the idea that "they can earn it eventually". now all packages moving forward are planned to be global. if one player makes a donation, EVERYONE gets the reward. If one player decides to be a whale, everyone else will love them for it

I know I'm a bit late to the party but I managed to crash an entire server with kelp. It was a money earning server where much like this you could get money to buy upgrades and other cool things through selling resources. I figured out that I could buy with my starter money just enough to forward a large plot of land, a shit ton of glass, two water buckets, and 10 kelp as well as the sand to grow it on. I then proceeded to sell the raw kelp to get enough to get some cobblestone and make myself a furnace as well as get enough coal and wood to make a crafting table and expand my processing. After about 3 days of people looking at my process and laughing at it because of how slow I was earning money compared to everybody else. People stop paying attention to me and I use that opportunity to keep expanding. I bought three other plots around me and connected them together to make a large tank I then used a plant booster beacon to increase their growth speed. What people didn't realize is the kelp when dried can be turned into kelp blocks. My one in-game currency could sell for seven when made into a kelp block. The funny thing about kelp blocks is they can be used for fuel as well. Thus eliminating The need for wood or coal. I also set up a collection system that would compile all of the kelp together and feed it into a massive auto smelter that would siphon off some of the dried kelp into an autocrafter that would turn it into kelp blocks and then would send those via rail all the way back up to refeed the system count blocks and any excess or dropped off into the chest. With the kelp growing at really good speed, each stock being able to bring 75ish kelp per minute. I had effectively made a infinite money generator that id just have to clear out once and a while. No one realized what was going on until I was selling thousands of blocks at a time making thousands of dollars in minutes using it to expand outwards and increase my automation. I added smokers in the next update and the system got even faster going up to about $30,000 every 15 minutes worth of profit. I then bought an auto seller that would automatically sell the items for me so I literally had to do nothing. While I sat back and let it work other people began to see what I was doing and very rapidly started changing over to a kelp base economy XD everyone was selling off their old supplies to the market and starting kelp farms by using my publicly visitable one as a reference. Some even hiring me to make them smaller versions. Between the startup cost of my kelp farm, the efficiency, the infinite fuel for other projects, and the mass of the amount of income. I manage to single-handedly crush them. It was then that they dropped the price of a kelp block from 7 to 1 But people were generating it so fast and mine had gotten so big that even that wasn't enough and they couldn't put a value less than one in their programming. Other people began to swap over that we're holding out up until that point and it ultimately resulted in me getting removed from there for supposed exploiting despite me having played by their exact rules and their exact market. They got so angry that I ruin their economy with kelp that they ultimately ended up shutting it down after everyone demanded I come back on because I didn't violate the rules and everyone either got banned or left this pay to win server. They tried to start up a new one and I joined under an alias and did the same exact thing but this time I didn't make it out of glass and instead made out of obsidian with a pretty good looking iron golem farm on the outside to make it look like it was just a mob Grinder And iron golem farm. Little did they know it was like kelp farm in disguise underneath and they removed me again once I got over a million currency. They got so mad that they started messaging me privately asking me to stop but due to their false ban rather than them just talking to me first then asking me to chill out. I refused. Then they banned kelp entirely in their next one. The problem is bamboo has the same exact qualities but doesn't require water which makes it even cheaper to work and I did the same exact thing. They IP banned me XD

Actually, servers that are on a version prior to 1.19 can not be banned by Mojang, because they can use what is known as an SRV Rotator to get around the blacklist, even if Mojang blacklists the server. Many big servers have actually already been blacklisted by Mojang, but continue to operate nonetheless. I think this may have been patched in version 1.19, but I'm not sure. There may be a new work-around as well, and many servers still operate on version 1.12 or even 1.8 as well, in which case the patch will not apply. In addition, many servers these days are beginning to use plugins that automatically, "scan," through each player's inventory every few seconds, and if a suspicious quantity of expensive items is detected, it can notify staff. Some of the plugins are very advanced, and can rollback _only_ the duped items. Some plugins even scan chests that players interact with, and mark the coordinates of any chest with a suspicious quantity of items. Do with that information what you will, I used to be a developer for a large P2W server.

I’ve been watching for ages, I am really excited to see how you ratio another server. You’re doing gods work because not only is it lying to consumers and breaking Minecraft’s TOS, there are hundreds of kids and their parents being ripped off and literally feeding these servers. The exploitation is disgusting and just sad

Just watched mr epics video with you duping on the server and not even a minute later your POV gets uploaded

The patch to disable trades was likely so they can get the server back up quick as they can and then deal with it later. The fact the staff were competent enough to immediately get the server shut down to deal with it, means the admins KNEW of these practices and an admin or multiple admins trained their staff to react accordingly. Sounds like something we do when it comes to cheaters and xrayers on the server. Have plans of action, etc. however I dont endorse servers that literally are P2W. Especially ones that fake their sales.. TF is that garbage... As for the response to possibly rollback. TBH if they were smart enough, they could of tracked their "MVP" items and had a plugin wipe unusually created items. When we did things like custom wayshrines, crates, etc We made them all uniquely tagged. So if there was more than 1 of ANY kind of them, they were immediately detected. However only did this out of protection from breaking the economy from people that like to grief on any kind of server including ones that didnt even have a store like ours xD

Anti-rollback idea: find a player that's been on a while, and after duping, give them the items. Have them hide them on their plot for enhanced effect, and wait. Maybe even play the server normally for a bit and build something on the plot a normal player would. The staff will probably always be suspicious, but less. Once enough time passes, whenever there's a lapse in staff online, you can trickle duped items from the long-term player's plot into the economy, slowly (or quickly with the right items) damage the economy through stash distribution

9:35 it's not deceptive business practice, it's straight up illegal !

lmao Sal thanks for doing this, i’m actually a former player of purple prison and this server is HELLA pay to win, this brings tears and joy to my eyes, thanks for everything you have done to stop servers like this.

I think the server might have a plug-in or background process that checks how many crates are sold vs how many crates are opened. If there are more crates opened than the number of crates sold, it could indicate that someone is duping crates and the admins will be notified. That's why the admins of this P2W server could act that fast. Next time you may try the good old method of waiting for a while before distributing, or just dupe something other than shop-exclusive items. P2W servers might be lazy in creating a good environment, but they always care about their money 😐

I fell for that 90% deal like 2-3 years ago. They’ve been running that deal for years to trick new players into spending money.

Thanks so much for helping with the video! Glad you could make it and this edit is epic, stinks it didnt work out fully.

I've dupped on this server way over 5 years ago the same way, incredible how they didn't patch it

As I understand it that kind of fake sale is actually illegal in some jurisdictions. A quick Google search indicates it might violate ftc guidelines. It's a bit boring but instead of duping or reporting to Mojang figuring out how to contact authorities and lawmakers could do serious damage to some Minecraft servers.

Honestly this makes me so happy. I ran a server for a year where i had a solid 10 people playing. My whole goal was no pay to win. After months of working on it I started hiring staff and quickly 5ey demanded modes Like kitsPvP. I added it for them and left that shit “under construction”. After a year of having it up, with constant staff issues and low funds I had to close her up. My bungee cord server was closed with me reaching my beginning goal of no pay to win. Instead, i had just lobby pets and perks for lobby and non competitive or pvp zones. Keep this shit up, many more people would have gotten into MC had servers not been flooded with these pay to win scams. You can tell right away if the owners actually care for his players or just numbers. 😂

OH GOD, HE'S BACK AT IT NOBODY STOP HIM!

I love the duping videos man, keep em up!

Hey, I have an idea that might work for permanently destroying a P2W server's economy. It would take much longer than normal, but it would be almost impossible to fix. First, you would dupe all your stuff like normal. However, instead of just dumping everything at once, you begin to sell the stuff like normal. Maybe distribute the items to some alt accounts and have THEM sell the items, too, if the server lists the name of the seller so that it doesn't look too suspicious. At first, sell the items at a normal/slightly cheaper price. People buy them like normal. Over time, start lowering the price of the items. This will artificially deflate the value of the items, but it will look at least somewhat-natural, so the admins won't notice it at first. After some time, stop lowering the prices of that item. This will be where you leave the price for a while. Next, start dumping all of your duped items. This will signal the admins that there has been duping going on, and they will rush to fix things. Make sure to draw their attention to the deflated prices of the items that you caused (edit: You could probably draw their attention to this by selling the duped items for $1 or whatever the lowest possible price of the items are, alongside other of the items priced at the "normal" deflated valve. This should make them think that the new "normal" deflated price are also duped items, and thus they will remove the "normal" priced items too). This will make them do damage control and artificially *INFLATE* the price of the item. Once they've done this, people who had previously bought the items will suddenly have tons of items that they bought cheap, and can now sell for a huge profit. The admins would have two choices to fix this: 1. Track down every single sale that was part of the deflation campaign, and remove any of the deflated items and remove whatever money the buyer may have made on reselling the items. 2. Rollback weeks upon weeks of work to a point before the items started being deflated. The first option is borderline impossible, especially on a bigger server or a server with less documentation on player trades. Effectively, the second option would be their only choice. This would DESTROY their playerbase, as people would have countless hours of time and effort erased, for what would be perceived as a single duping event that should only have caused a few hours of rollback. The best part about this is that unless the admins go full Communist and force players to trade at a set price, they will have almost no ability to stop what is happening before the damage is done, as the only way to notice the damage before the final step of the plan would be to actively watch the market/auction house, and keep track of the price of every single item sold. And, even IF they did that, reducing the price decreases and spreading the campaign over a longer period would be enough to pass under their noses.

Right off the bat, the most damage reduction you can get is 80% from protection enchants so having such high protection enchants is just a scam lol. Same with efficiency.

This is the first video I have ever seen from you and I’m fully invested. You have a new subscriber!

If they check the plots of new players all the time, couldn’t you just make an account, join the server, come back a while later and then get a dupe stash so that your account has a lot of play time?

Your doing gods work my friend, get these fools off the market. AND THIS IS TO GO, EVEN FURTHER BEYOND! While this time you were unsuccessful, the next time won't be the same.

A few weeks ago i started to watch all those vids about pay to win servers and now there is one more!! This was quick btw, i wanted to see the reaction of people, at last its one more server getting exposed, keep it up bro!

Just discovered your gem of a channel. Your content is amazing, hilarious and entertaining. I love your duping/breaking pay-to-win servers economy content, it's so good I decided to subbed so please continue! ✨✨✨😎😎😎

That was Fast Duping and Reactions, Dang. Weird to see such through Mods, on a server of this type.

I just ended watching mister epics vid, and yours comes up

Just wanna say love the vids recently you're one of my favorite youtubers!

Tamal really reminds me of those guys you found on PS3 or Xbox 360 and taught you how to dupe your car in GTA V or glitch into a wall on COD lmao, great video.

It's crazy how Sal's videos don't even scratch the surface of how bad things are in Pixelmon server communities.

sal you have to introduce them slowly because if you do that they can't really roll it back without players leaving. ideally over the course of a month you'd be doing it. It would also be very hard to figure out who's doing it if you just dropped them infrequently. you duped enough where in your inventories alone it would be enough to destroy the server, so just get rid of the plots and they'd have no idea

7:52 A mod (with a very long nametag) has already caught on MOD [Market] [|GANK|] Cembadyx: "no one open the crates"

This server has Venezuela levels of inflation.

Oh btw, I'm not sure if it's a thing or not in basegame, but in modded you can bypass enchant limits without any issues. Some "overloaded" enchantments don't do anything, like you say, but some actually provide stacking bonuses, either linearly or logarithmically declining (as in diminsing returns, at higher levels 1 level of enchant is worth less than at lower levels) and I'm pretty sure it's done without modifying the enchant code itself. There's a spreadsheet about it specifically in relation to MCE modpack, though I don't have the direct link at this moment.

I mean, whoever is running that server knows what they're doing. The likely hood of Microsoft sending them to the shadow realm is unlikely.

Another great video bro, glad you are showing these corrupt p2w servers and how you exploit it! keep up the good work

Few friends and I made lag machines on here. We would make one per week and leave them dormant meaning every time one was activated and rolled back after a crash another would be set off and they’d have to wind back weeks of progress to find it

This type of content is exactly what I’m looking for! Thank you Sal for taking these servers down!

I used to play purple prison. Immediately left when I hit a point on the game that had artificial difficulty. The server’s been p2w for YEARS.

What... just watched the other POV didn't expect this

When I was 14, I was playing on a prison server, and played for several months. When I turned 15 I got a job washing dishes for $35 per night (about 5$ per hour) on the weekends. I saved up some money, and bought the highest rank on that server for $200, and a month or so later, the server shut down in an exit scam. Honestly upset me as I worked 3 weekends and it was a complete waste of my money. Being almost 25 now, Seeing these videos provides me a little bit of satisfaction, as even thought it may not shut the servers down, it hurts the income of the predatory owners, and might prevent a young teen from wasting hard earned money on these scams. Keep doing what you do Sal, for the good of the community.

All of this could be solved if Mojang had competent developers and actually enforced their TOS lmfao

This phrase fits these (or every p2w) server owners: "Regardless of position, a person is the same greedy devil"

Love the breaking pay to win servers videos! Keep it up

i wish you made longer videos i love watching these bro

When I was a kid I was watching a RU-vidr who made some trolling videos in this server. It was around 2015 I think (damn, 7-8 years ago). After that it was shutdown for sometime until a new owner bought it or the old one reopened it I guess.

Instead of using a trapwire hook the shulker box would be the most anti dupe thing ever, not stackable and not able to be in other shulker boxers, so the dupers would have to work harder or something

Thank you so much for trolling on Purple Prison. I search for "Minecraft mmorpg server" once every while to find a wynncraft alternative. This server will always show up, although it is just not an mmorpg, not even an rpg to begin with. I honestly dont see why people play on this server lol. Thank you so much!

I useto be one of the nerds who loved playing on this server and useto defend it with my life whenver anyone said the server was p2w, it gets to a point were you just cant take it anymore. You play the server for maximum a few days before reaching 1z, the first prestige, at that point you, realise how pay to win the server is, realising that youd need to grind for weeks to progress even slightly, its pure insanity, all p2w servers are the same, you have a bit of fun for a few days, then the weight of how p2w the server is falls ontop of you and you just give up. You guys are doin amazing work here.

You know something is up when they name their ranks after MC blocks lmao

Its really gross how "clinical" this particular server works, not only are they running an illegal business that scams children, but they are so swift to protect their profits, its insanity. The way they handled the situation rivals that of the most competent developers and admin teams.

I can’t remember exactly but I swear to god I used to be a regular this server a few years ago, it’s really surreal seeing one of my favorite RU-vidrs make a video on it

I used to play on the Purple Prison server with my cousin and we did not spend a single cent lol. We got rich from events and killing pay to win players, but eventually got bored of it and moved on. And that 90% sale thing never goes away.

Purp Pris is like 6 years old, I don't think reporting servers even does anything, besides, the eula-complient Bedrock store is even worse than these eula-noncompliant java servers.

Pretty sure fake sales are one of the very few things that are actually illegal under false advertising laws in the US.

this should a ongoing series tbh

do more of these "economy break" videos sal! i love your style of videos and i love wathcing these lol.

One question I always wanted an answer to, how do those servers have such a player count? Or rather, why would you play on such a server

Insane... they pay2win brings so strong adventages, that even with duping you can't reach what you get for money... why do players play there.

I love these type of vids keep it up

I need to hire this man for my server to find any dupe glitches and ways to fix it

Wait... Aren't the fake sales illegal, too?

When the server is so P2W that literal cheating is still not enough

RU-vid really asking me “feeling lucky?” Gambling for videos and this is the only video I get from clicking it

I imagine they might have something simple where if they notice a crate being opened with the same NBT tag as one already opened, then that sounds alarms

the 90% off tactic is actually super illegal to do

I always wonder how you discover duplication glitches for these servers. Do you just use old dupes that are patched on 2b2t?

Glad to see these guys back at it

I just love how high quality this video is.

Gotta dupe on minecraft central, sever fakes player numbers and is blatantly pay to win

I was staff on this server. The staff team itself is very toxic, and mean! There’s many pedo’s as well throughout the team! Server is filled with people who will dox you! So play at your own risk lol.

Im so happy to see this server on this video

I remember joining this server under the "Hunger Games" tag on a website, its hilarious to see it appear here after I play on that server.

PP i actually hate that server

to be fair... How else do you want servers to make money? People are money hungry on minecraft just as much as real life. Real life's pay to win aswell haha is what it is

WOW A VOICED COMMENTARY O.o Awesome video as usual ! ❤️

I used to watch this channel when you had 70k subs, now you have 10x that. Time flies so fast.

*How about ddos attack's ? Maybe is works for this to shutdown Pay-To-Win Servers ?*

These videos never get old

Protection effect caps at 20 total levels across your gear, unless they modified enchantments on the server, that protection 30 armor set is some quality bait

i love that he keeps making these videos

Purple Prison: Posts fake discounts Overwatch 2: 'Hey, we can do that too!'

Nice double video with TheMisterEpic

Dude I actually used to play on that server. More of a tuned out mining and selling session when I was bored. I didn't even know they had a store

Watching Sal going to other servers is literally th e best thing!