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"Dwyane Wade Had a Better Peak Than Kobe!" - Reacting to Hot Takes! 

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@alsorustybuckets
@alsorustybuckets 10 месяцев назад
newest episode of the Spurs 2K series: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UdUjC0D35Us.html
@IamnotfromUSA
@IamnotfromUSA 10 месяцев назад
then in 2008 it was slaughter against everyone and they didnt win by only 7 in final and 2012 also then German team would not beat 2014 Spurs right but they did 2010 lakers would not loose to euroleague champions but they did loose to them.
@Thebestoutthere
@Thebestoutthere 10 месяцев назад
Injuries hurt dwade’s career but he’s still up there in all-time rankings. That’s how damn good he was. Best player to never win the mvp award.
@iwumboyouwumbo4257
@iwumboyouwumbo4257 Месяц назад
Crazy how Rusty’s take about the Mavs aged like milk left out in an Arizona summer
@MindfulAttraction2.0
@MindfulAttraction2.0 10 месяцев назад
Dwades peak legit is kinda insane.
@omarionbrown3075
@omarionbrown3075 10 месяцев назад
Nope MJ Kobe Harden Jimmy AI Drexler Jimmy and PG all clears Peak Wade
@greatpyrenees559
@greatpyrenees559 10 месяцев назад
Lol Omarion … wtf did harden or Jimmy do
@TheIcemanthomas
@TheIcemanthomas 10 месяцев назад
@@omarionbrown3075lay of the meth
@MaineMez
@MaineMez 10 месяцев назад
Drexler??? Nah. Even Jimmy no
@MrGameonthis
@MrGameonthis 10 месяцев назад
@@omarionbrown3075Too bad peak Wade led his team to a chip unlike most of who you mentioned, stay off the weeeeeeeeeeeed.
@patrick05Morgan
@patrick05Morgan 10 месяцев назад
D wade’s absolute prime was bonkers but I think people should make a habit of going back and watching extensively instead of just looking at numbers from certain stages of playoff runs and seasons. D wade was one of the best two way threats ever, slashers, knockdown mid range shooter, and ball handlers but I would say that the thing that slightly limit him on the offensive end in comparison to a Kobe is the threat of the 3 point shot. Knowing that at any point Kobe could literally take any shot on you and that he was still likely to score is terrifying.
@chrisyoung1720
@chrisyoung1720 7 месяцев назад
Kobe was a below average 3 point shooter
@amirmoney3221
@amirmoney3221 3 месяца назад
@@chrisyoung1720Kobe wasn’t Russell west brick
@chrisyoung1720
@chrisyoung1720 3 месяца назад
@@amirmoney3221 What's your point????
@RonquixoteDIII
@RonquixoteDIII 10 месяцев назад
1:34 I don’t think that’s as big of the reason behind Kerr’s improvement but rather him allowing draymond to make the system really flourish especially defensively. A team with David Lee as part of their starting front court could never win a title
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 10 месяцев назад
I’ve heard some say that David Lee had a game that belonged to the 2000’s. Is that accurate? And was he any good?
@tysonmaddox1090
@tysonmaddox1090 10 месяцев назад
The only thing I find annoying about the whole world champ vs nba champ argument is that they picked one of the worse American sports to do it. Like you have the nfl who has a much smaller percentage of international talent and certainly no international talent that’s as good as jokic, embiid, luka or Giannis yet the nba, the most active league when it comes to international expansion in America, is the one on blast for this.
@Sqeaky6969
@Sqeaky6969 10 месяцев назад
It really is just Noah lyles complaining, a very American thing that people ignore, because no one even knew who he was despite him being one of the most successful track athletes in us history. So to become popular why not pander to American hating fanbase that's the only reason he did it and it's ironic that other countries, mostly all the ones that have no shot of winning anything in the Olympics, are supporting him don't realize they're doing the most American thing by complaining and saying America sucks
@Bearsacci
@Bearsacci 10 месяцев назад
wrong. Yeah the NBA has a good amount of international talent but ever heard of the MLB?! They literally call it the World Series.
@OffTopicKamah
@OffTopicKamah 10 месяцев назад
@@Sqeaky6969couldn’t have said it better
@franciscopereira5553
@franciscopereira5553 10 месяцев назад
They could have chosen any one of them. If you only compete against teams of your country/continent u arent a world champion
@BHPTV
@BHPTV 10 месяцев назад
@@franciscopereira5553Exactly! To be A world Champ u should rep yo country with yo countrys colors on the jersey. Not rep a city playing in A pro League with a made up cartoonish team name like The Raptors etc
@Dan42069___
@Dan42069___ 10 месяцев назад
As much as I love Dwade, if u even remotely think that Dwade’s peak is significantly close or better than peak Kobe, ur just wrong
@greatpyrenees559
@greatpyrenees559 10 месяцев назад
He had a 2 year stint where he was close to Kobe but I don’t think it’s necessarily long enough to give him that sort of praise and wade is my favorite player ever
@-Violent_Chicken_Man-
@-Violent_Chicken_Man- 10 месяцев назад
Kobe was and still is a better father than wade too 😂
@cstc1235
@cstc1235 10 месяцев назад
@@-Violent_Chicken_Man-Kobe is cooking like a bbq steak in hell his beef is down ur throat stop sucking him
@cameronno6039
@cameronno6039 10 месяцев назад
MJ is CRIMINALLY underrated. To argue Jokic is "on track" to PASS Jordan? No! MJ came in at 28-7-6 and was elite from the onset. Jokic took some time. Jokic has the potential to be the best, but so do plenty of people. Good luck to him. I'm just saying to say anyone is on track to be the GOAT is usually premature or wrong. It took MJ a solid 9 years to be on track to be the GOAT and then another 4 to earn it hands down.
@Sqeaky6969
@Sqeaky6969 10 месяцев назад
The whole top 10 is underrated in a sense just cus it's guys we've known forever but look at all their careers, most if u have curry and kobe, all started off ELITE. MJ, LeBron Magic, Kareem,Shaq, Duncan, Wilt, Bill, Bird, and Hakeem were all already at an all star level as rookies or even All NBA level in Wilt ,Bill, Mj, Kareem, Duncan and Bird's cases
@Youralwayswhining4367
@Youralwayswhining4367 10 месяцев назад
​@@Sqeaky6969curry and Kobe didn't start off great though
@annie420xx
@annie420xx 10 месяцев назад
saying mj is underrated in any context is hilariously deluded
@Sqeaky6969
@Sqeaky6969 10 месяцев назад
@@Youralwayswhining4367 they're the only exceptions but both of them have bounced in and around the top 10. I personally have Curry at 11 and Kobe at 8 or so. Kobe was still good tho in his 2nd year becoming and all star and a top 5 player by 2000, you could also chalk up Curry's slow start to a bunch of injuries as well
@ryab6
@ryab6 10 месяцев назад
saying MJ is underrated is crazy. i get what you mean tho
@MO-rl9gl
@MO-rl9gl 10 месяцев назад
How can people constantly give credit to the famous Steve Kerr Warriors system. But at the same time say he’s a mid coach. I don’t get it.
@diablejambe3460
@diablejambe3460 10 месяцев назад
Its similar to the whole "they got this many all stars, its not fair" but then also saying draymond is mr triple single and not that good.
@samdakid6559
@samdakid6559 10 месяцев назад
The Kobe slander is crazy these days
@greatpyrenees559
@greatpyrenees559 10 месяцев назад
If Kobe was alive people wouldn’t be saying this nonsense
@Herzeder
@Herzeder 10 месяцев назад
Do you realize how much bullshit has been said to glorify Kobe since his death? It's only natural that people who don't like him that much are starting to react.
@ShanksFreecss
@ShanksFreecss 10 месяцев назад
People gotta go rewatch some Kobe film
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 10 месяцев назад
30 shots. 9-21. awesome.
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 10 месяцев назад
@@jonathansykes4986 I get the feeling this is some cherry picked stat meant to be an argument against it, when in reality, it’s a pretty pointless statement
@Herzeder
@Herzeder 10 месяцев назад
Yea, go watch some actual games and just not some mixtapes. Because I really dont believe that people sucking Kobe's d- recently watched how painfully hard it is to watch him play, he was really the 00's Harden.
@kiirdeng1548
@kiirdeng1548 10 месяцев назад
The hot take for today is that the gap between Mj and LeBron is way bigger than people think. Mj was unquestionable the better scorer and defender also played so flawless in his career that he was playing at the level of Kobe’s MVP season as a rookie. People say that LeBron is a better passer which maybe true. But also Mj role wasn’t to facilitate offense and when it was. As he was a point guard under Doug Collins for sometime he averaged a triple double in the 90s.
@urbaindelva7869
@urbaindelva7869 10 месяцев назад
All true, but LeBron has proven to be an all-time great scorer as well. His way of scoring has always relied more on his physical gifts than fine-tuned skills and positioning like Jordan, and he was always more of a playmaker primarily. LeBron could have averaged a triple double if he wanted to, but he just never saw the need for it. LeBron has always been a capable defender at worst and an elite defender at best. He started shirking on defense because of his offensive role, which is understandable but still not fully excusable. Jordan was putting up MVP numbers in his rookie year, but LeBron was doing that in his sophomore year, so it's not that much different. Objectively speaking, the gap is bigger than most people think because Jordan's career is damn near flawless whereas LeBron's has a number of negatives you can point to.
@ball1slife107
@ball1slife107 10 месяцев назад
just because he did something for 11 games doesn't mean that he did that over his career, he took like the most double teamed shots in the league before kobe. I don't think lebron has passed him but there isn't that big of a gap
@kiirdeng1548
@kiirdeng1548 9 месяцев назад
@@ball1slife107 I understand why you think there’s not that big of a gap especially since lebron and MJ are on a class of there own, there is no one that is better than any of them. But even tho he did that for eleven games I’m not saying that those stats represent his whole career but I’m saying that MJ is a better facilitator than most people think. And the fact that he averaged a triple double when offense was a lot harder to come by says a lot. Plus MJ had no holes in his legacy he averaged 40 points in a finals series and averaged more points in his last playoff run then lebron did in his whole career. Don’t get me wrong lebron is great and is undoubtedly the 2nd best player of all time. But the fact that Jordan had a damn near perfect career just makes him my goat.
@johnnysake8052
@johnnysake8052 2 месяца назад
damn the Mavs didnt have to stop the Nuggets offense lmao 8:40
@champoopapi
@champoopapi 10 месяцев назад
i liked your take on the world champion stuff
@thetank5642
@thetank5642 10 месяцев назад
It’s so crazy going from LKIB to this hot take. On LKIB podcast, 3 out of those 4 idiots think Paul Pierce is better all time than Wade while here some people think Wade had a better peak than Kobe
@bbcpfghs
@bbcpfghs 10 месяцев назад
LKIAB can be pretty tough to watch sometimes lmao
@thetank5642
@thetank5642 10 месяцев назад
@@bbcpfghs just for basketball content tho. They actually have interesting conversations about current news
@joelman1989
@joelman1989 10 месяцев назад
Yeah Paul’s peak is closer to Wade and wades is closer to Kobe than people like to admit. But all that said there is a clear 1, 2, and 3
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 10 месяцев назад
@@joelman1989 I’d say Wade more so had a close potential to Kobe’s during that time, because at least when he was playing and wasn’t injured, he was excellent
@Herzeder
@Herzeder 10 месяцев назад
Better ≠ Greater Peak ≠ Career
@abtocool6350
@abtocool6350 10 месяцев назад
Dallas offense after the trade was definitely great, their offense rating before the trade was 109 and then after the trade it jumped to 119, their defense and rebounding plummeted though.
@shorewall
@shorewall 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, and that's the thing, it's all about Net Points. If you score 119, but give up 124, you are losing. BBall is played on both sides of the floor.
@valor144
@valor144 10 месяцев назад
I agree on anything you said about NBA and world champions, every little thing, besides the phrase "it would be a slaughter every time" (if they always bring their top 10-15 players). I 'm not saying it would be often , but things like 2006 semi-finals with Greece would probably happen every 10 years or so.
@mydogsnameislucy768
@mydogsnameislucy768 10 месяцев назад
That title immediately gave me a good laugh. I actually lol’d.
@superace6
@superace6 10 месяцев назад
It’s pretty close tbh
@cfl4286
@cfl4286 10 месяцев назад
@@superace6no it’s not 😂
@superace6
@superace6 10 месяцев назад
@@cfl4286 100% is but you’re 12 and did’t watch prime Dwade play
@dontaviousdouglas2309
@dontaviousdouglas2309 10 месяцев назад
@@superace6Facts
@MaineMez
@MaineMez 10 месяцев назад
It’s not close. His peak was 2 years
@Lawson32PHX
@Lawson32PHX 10 месяцев назад
Rio Grande (G League) took Bronze earlier this year in the Intercontinental Cup, the FIBA equivalent of a club World Cup. If the Ignite win the Tournament over this weekend they'd be the "World Champions" of Club Basketball. I think it's fair to consider the NBA, who drafts from every team competing in that World Championship, a (not THE) World Championship caliber league.
@user-uf6wx5zb4b
@user-uf6wx5zb4b 10 месяцев назад
lol and no one talks about this our G team is getting medals against other countries
@rafaellemkedepaola515
@rafaellemkedepaola515 10 месяцев назад
D wade had the better shot iq. That is why they have very simmilar ts % and why i would rather have him.
@atlien1988
@atlien1988 10 месяцев назад
Be prepared to lose more often
@PxPappy
@PxPappy 10 месяцев назад
With the Darius Garland one I think that fits Trae young more
@Sqeaky6969
@Sqeaky6969 10 месяцев назад
I think kerr has gone from overrated like being considered a top 15 coach ever to becoming massively underrated. Simply put curry isn't the curry that we know today without kerr. If he still had mark jackson as his coach he'd just be another great player who never got a ring
@carltonrudolph
@carltonrudolph 10 месяцев назад
Bra he put draymond in over a former allstarr damn near allstar david lee also move iggy to the bench when he was still a starter. Litterally took the same exact 50 win team and won 67 games and the chip the very next year ctfu
@ainnocent
@ainnocent 10 месяцев назад
One thing people seem to forget about Kerr as well is that he maximized what Draymomd ended up becoming. Remember, Draymond was coming off the bench before Kerr. He became a completely different player under Kerr and Id argue was the piece they needed to be that truly elite team. Dont judge a coach simply by a few months of a tournament comprising of players that not only have to get used to each other, but a whole new way of playing in FIBA.
@danielmacpherson8487
@danielmacpherson8487 10 месяцев назад
I really hate the discourse around those Nash MVPs, so many people moan about how the MVP isn't about who is actually most valuable but about who is popular/stats/narrative and a guy wins 2 MVPs for being clearly the most valuable player to his own team of anyone in the league during those seasons and people scream that it wasn't their favourite player. ik I can't prove these are the same people saying these things but it's just insane to me that we single out Nash like we do.
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 10 месяцев назад
Because those are still some of the weakest MVP’s ever. They aren’t garbage, and it’s not like he wasn’t MVP caliber, but there is a lot of reasoning for him not being actually chosen. Yes, he did lead his team to a very successful RS and got them well into the Playoffs, and likely should’ve had a Finals run in 2007 (easily would’ve won against the Cavs), if the Spurs didn’t cheat. That however does not mean he wasn’t still mid Defensively at least, and had to have a great Defensive team in order to essentially make up for his lacking Defense and then bolster his incredible Offense. It also doesn’t mean that Kobe or Dirk or Wade or even LeBron weren’t possibly better and more deserving any of those years
@shorewall
@shorewall 10 месяцев назад
@@Jonathan-A.C. I think context is important. We were just coming off of the 2004 Pistons Championship, where defense and ugly play ruled. So the league changed the rules, which allowed Nash, and Kobe, and all guards to flourish offensively. But I think Nash and D'antoni took best advantage of it right away. And it was something we hadn't seen before, so it impressed itself more. It was ahead of its time, it was fun to watch, and it lead to winning. And Nash was the most important part of that. Going further, Kobe was putting up stats on a bad team, with no one to share the ball with. Anyone could score 40 points on 40 shots. He also was responsible for breaking up the Shaq-Kobe Lakers, getting Phil Jackson fired, and had a Rape trial. How can you call that the MVP?
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 10 месяцев назад
@@shorewall Kobe was not an Inefficient shooter, and in fact, during that stretch of time, he was a decent bit above average. The whole rest of that is pretty much pure bs, unless you’re just saying this from an “optics” standpoint. Both he and Shaq are responsible for that clash, the Lakers rehired Phil the next season after Kobe’s single one without him, and he blatantly did not “cause” any rape trial. He had consensual sex, she tried to flip some bs on him, and then boom, trial commences. That one especially is not whatsoever his fault. You can call him the MVP for maintaining at least the level of individual Offense that Nash brought, except with actual high caliber Defense. Especially during that 2006 season, there’s zero reason why Kobe wasn’t better than Nash, except for the fact that Nash was on a more winning team
@atlien1988
@atlien1988 10 месяцев назад
How in the hell is Steve Nash more valuable than a guy that leads the team in every major statistical category (excluding assists) & their best defender in 2006? Why does he get sole credit for the Suns success, when that team was loaded? People love talking about how _horrible_ the Suns were before he arrived, but fail to mention how the Suns dealt with multiple trades, injuries, & coaching changes the year prior to Nash arriving in PHX on top of him not being the only addition to that 2005 team. Nash was absolutely important to the Suns, but he didn't deserve either MVPs.
@atlien1988
@atlien1988 10 месяцев назад
​​@@shorewall Kobe didn't take 40 shots to score 40 points, he wasn't responsible for Shaq getting traded or Phil fired. Kobe was actually on the verge of leaving the Lakers & the team chose him over Shaq's request for a bigger contract as he was getting older AND wasn't taking care of his body. They ultimately made the right decision. Phil & Kobe had rough patches, arguably because Phil always coddled Shaq (love Shaq btw), but his beef was ultimately with the front office. Yes, Kobe's trial was front & center in 2004 so it makes sense. However, what doesn't make sense is PJ Brown receiving MVP votes in 2005. It's silly stuff like this that makes you laugh at most of these awards/voting. Everyone understood that Kobe couldn't be the MVP in 2005, however Steve Nash? Shawn Marion was an elite 2-way player who averaged 19pts, 11rebs, 2stls, 1.5blks. STAT averaged 26pts, 9rebs, w/ almost 3 combined stocks. In 2006, Marion was even better & the Suns were loaded. Again Nash was great, but he wasn't even giving us peak John Stockton who never even came close to sniffing an MVP trophy unless he was sitting next to Karl Malone. Stockton never finished above 7th in MVP voting while Nash won TWO consecutive with Shaq, Kobe Duncan, LeBron, Dirk, Wade, McGrady, etc all having better seasons.
@JimboCruntz
@JimboCruntz 10 месяцев назад
1:02 I have a counter hot take, the Warriors could've been the Warriors earlier if they didn't have Mark Jackson as a coach. There's a reason he doesn't have a job.
@IamSSAINVINCIBLEx
@IamSSAINVINCIBLEx 10 месяцев назад
Wade had the better head to head record and numbers across the board and Wade also had the better playoff numbers across the board. Kobe was the player Wade has blocked the most in his career and Wade is the player Kobe has been blocked by the most in his career.
@MikeTheNBAGuy
@MikeTheNBAGuy 10 месяцев назад
Jerry West has a real case to be a top 10 player and the GOAT PG, he but he gets underrated because he only won 1 championship
@randallalton6310
@randallalton6310 10 месяцев назад
How long does it take to drop a like on this video? And, how would you describe the difference it makes?
@balazsulveczki342
@balazsulveczki342 10 месяцев назад
I think Jokic to Goat path is basically nonexistent. Jordan was the best player in the league for 10 seasons, and 8 of them are unquestionable, and converted those dominant years to 6 rings. In case of Jokic, we are at possibly 3, and this last 1 is basically unquestionable, conveted into 1 ring. He's 28. So basically if he's unquestionably the best player in the league for the next 7 seasons until 35, and convert them into 5 rings, then they are equal. If thats a "realistic" path, then yes, its possible, but come on. And I know this is not the universal goat argument type, but show around what is expected for goat candidacy.
@hectorvanderdys4128
@hectorvanderdys4128 10 месяцев назад
Couldn’t have said it better
@1000peelboy
@1000peelboy 10 месяцев назад
I think prime d wade was better just by a very slight margin
@dontaviousdouglas2309
@dontaviousdouglas2309 10 месяцев назад
Agree
@greatpyrenees559
@greatpyrenees559 10 месяцев назад
Wade was never better than Kobe. People for some reason bottle up that 06 playoff run and consider it his peak. Wade is my favorite player of all time but at no point was he better than peak kobe
@1000peelboy
@1000peelboy 10 месяцев назад
@@greatpyrenees559 do you remember how good Dwade was in 2008?
@greatpyrenees559
@greatpyrenees559 10 месяцев назад
@@1000peelboy do you remember 05 Kobe. Trust me I know how good wade was and when I played I emulated him so much people used to call me wade when I played. Like I said before he was my favorite of all time but I can’t say he was better than Kobe even during his peak. If he was never injured there was a possibility my opinion would be different but he was never able to combine the shooting he developed later on with the athleticism to reach that level
@1000peelboy
@1000peelboy 10 месяцев назад
@@greatpyrenees559 I guess you’re right I’m just such a big dwade fan to lol. Kobe clearly had the better career and more accolades. But prime wade was almost as good as Kobe
@maxtheedawg
@maxtheedawg 10 месяцев назад
Rusty please answer. I just watched back to back vids, and in your hot takes on the main, you just said the mavs can be contenders, and when that comes up here, you completly flip and dismiss them of being competitive. I get its "hot takes" but don't they still hold value when you say them? Bruh
@alsorustybuckets
@alsorustybuckets 10 месяцев назад
rudy here but basically the difference seems to be the level between "will make the finals" and "could be contenders"... one is confident and the other is much more of a hedge. While the mavs' D is still questionable, I believe upon further investigation of how their off season went, Jacob started to see the vision. These hot take reaction are much more of a mere reaction, whereas the main channel stuff has some more research put into it.
@d4v1do
@d4v1do 10 месяцев назад
Hard to even say when D Wade peak was
@dontecool21
@dontecool21 10 месяцев назад
06-08 probably
@superace6
@superace6 10 месяцев назад
@@dontecool2109 was peak wade
@dontecool21
@dontecool21 10 месяцев назад
@@superace6 yeah i could see that too
@superace6
@superace6 10 месяцев назад
@@dontecool21 ya I think it’s ether 06 or 09 but 09 wade was something else
@GloryBoa
@GloryBoa 10 месяцев назад
@@dontecool212008 was literally the worse year of his career and he was hurt and didn’t make the playoffs y’all don’t know nothing about wade career lmao His peak was 2009 and his prime was 2005-2011
@Jeff_2x
@Jeff_2x 10 месяцев назад
I still don’t get what’s so hard for people to comprehend about this world champ debate. If you don’t play teams outside not only your country but continent you are NOT a world champ no matter how good your domestic league is and despite how much international talent the league has
@shorewall
@shorewall 10 месяцев назад
There is no league that compares with the NBA. If your definition holds, then being the NBA champ is better than being the World Champ.
@miguelawsome2273
@miguelawsome2273 10 месяцев назад
The Kobe disrespect outta hand
@donaldhutchison4652
@donaldhutchison4652 10 месяцев назад
He ain’t here to defend himself now so ppl just say anything 😂when he retired lol had him literally 2nd all time. Then it was top 5 now ppl think he’s not even top 10
@Big_Krone
@Big_Krone 10 месяцев назад
Yeah sure, but also people do not understand how good Wade's peak was. MJ like and that's not an understatement. Go look up his numbers and the way media talked about him. Dwade played at kobes level for a few years for sure. Difference is Kobe did it for longer and got more chips. Wade was only able to hit his true peak for 2-3 years and then dropped pretty significantly after injury and becoming a 2nd option to LeBron
@hibiki8473
@hibiki8473 10 месяцев назад
I'm a heat fan. So D.wade is my guy but trying to compare him as Kobe is crazy
@Big_Krone
@Big_Krone 10 месяцев назад
We are talking about the #2 and #3 sg ever. Not like DWade is a #10 sg or something. DWade had one of the greatest peaks ever
@MindfulAttraction2.0
@MindfulAttraction2.0 10 месяцев назад
​@@donaldhutchison4652and yet y'all trash wilt and he dead.
@Herzeder
@Herzeder 10 месяцев назад
Talking about Kobe is like talking about MJ: It's impossible to have an interesting debate about them without having a flood of mentally challenged fans who take offence at the fact that their God is being compared to a mere mortal.
@raiderleader4220
@raiderleader4220 10 месяцев назад
most redditor youtuber ever
@KevinMcCarty21
@KevinMcCarty21 10 месяцев назад
based rusty
@TheBadgerInMinecraft
@TheBadgerInMinecraft 10 месяцев назад
As knicks fans watching Randle and toppin playing 5 mins a game is a war crime committed by Tom thibodeau. Also starting elfrid Payton for a whole season is the crime of the century. Tom is the best worst coach ever
@zach6699
@zach6699 10 месяцев назад
Hey Rusty
@spojsvojs
@spojsvojs 10 месяцев назад
I didn't saw the video but how is this possible in Christian Bale way
@SomeGoodBroth
@SomeGoodBroth 10 месяцев назад
Once again my mavs go under the radar.
@thetrib1
@thetrib1 10 месяцев назад
Mj is the boat guard slasher btw
@Nuthinnull
@Nuthinnull 10 месяцев назад
Wade
@daviesugo7641
@daviesugo7641 10 месяцев назад
You don't become a champion by assumption. You have to win a championship. Gsw was by far the best team in 2019 but dod not win the championship, same with USA this FIBA. But that's not how championships work you have to actually compete and earn that right.
@sheyarjames4904
@sheyarjames4904 10 месяцев назад
The US team did get beaten in the Olympics before while sending some of the best players in the league (Duncan, KG, AI...), if we follow the "this team is far and beyond more talented than this team and therefore they have no chance of losing then look no further than what the Heat did this year, they eliminated two teams which were so much more talented than them by playing their hearts out, we have seen the same thing happen in Football as well (Greece winning the Euros in 2004 while having a line up of players that noone heard of), point is, sports in general aren't logical and you can't just make conclusive predictions based on some educated guesses...
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 10 месяцев назад
⁠@@sheyarjames4904 Yeah but I mean, cmon bro. 2004 US team was an exception and didn’t even have all the best players. If you stick the best US Basketball players in there, they’re gonna win, even heard less of chemistry. That’s just how dominant they are. It’s much more of just a fact. It doesn’t mean other teams are worthless just because they aren’t star studded
@joel8692
@joel8692 10 месяцев назад
​@@Jonathan-A.C.nah man a team with Iverson ,duncan KG should of won
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 10 месяцев назад
@@joel8692 Most of the dudes on the team were rookies, including people like LeBron. And AFAIK, they also had coaching problems. But the point is, there’s a reason why it’s one of two exceptions in the history of the US Olympic Basketball teams (in terms of like, modern day. Even in regards to total history, it’s only one of four)
@patrick05Morgan
@patrick05Morgan 10 месяцев назад
If u make it to the league and you manage to win a championship Idgaf what dudes in the NBL or Taiwanese league are saying. You can call yourself a world champion.
@John.Asante
@John.Asante 10 месяцев назад
I'm not even American but seeing Jimmer Fridette go to China and become a god is pretty telling in the skill gap
@urbaindelva7869
@urbaindelva7869 10 месяцев назад
6:13 I disagree with you on that, Jacob. We are far from a great country, but we're better than most, so you should have more patriotism and more pride in that. As for your point about the "NBA champs are not world champs" take, the most important word in that phrase is "champs." Being champs eclipses whether you're part of the world or the NBA.
@abaddonfrazier4772
@abaddonfrazier4772 10 месяцев назад
I mean… when it comes to the world champ agruements.. i’d say the most egregious example is the MLB with the “world series” NBA in comparison has alot more international players. I could absolutely be wrong cause i have never watched baseball but the NBA has the collection of the best in the world, MLB got at max the best in the west with its large latin player population. But again i could be wrong. I’ve only seen a couple MLB players not directly american or latin american.
@bilindabutcher8913
@bilindabutcher8913 10 месяцев назад
US took upcoming young players to the World Cup yet put them with them old ass coaches why not try taking Will Hardy, Willie Green, Jamahl Mosley as coaches. + they actually coached the players before
@shorewall
@shorewall 10 месяцев назад
Because nobody in the US cares about the World Cup.
@spaceman_spiff2391
@spaceman_spiff2391 10 месяцев назад
The biggest reason that Team USA has so many problems in FIBA and even struggles versus expectations in the olympics is passion and chemistry, not the lineup. On paper, a FIBA team with ANT, Brunson, Mikal bridges, Haliburton, Brandon Ingram, JJJ and others should slaughter the competition. The problem is that other countries teams play together with basically the same lineups for years and years, developing chemistry and continuity, while the US basically throws together a new team every international tournament. It's a terrible approach. Also, players from other countries consider it the greatest honor to play for their country and would sacrifice every other kind of success to bring home the gold for their nation. I can't say the same for many US players.
@clanwaddell5628
@clanwaddell5628 10 месяцев назад
Julius Randle has no right hand
@kb24shortoreo21
@kb24shortoreo21 9 месяцев назад
Prime Kobe vs prime wade. Off the backboard buzzer beater
@reallydoe2052
@reallydoe2052 10 месяцев назад
He did
@Justin_Watson23
@Justin_Watson23 10 месяцев назад
If you love your people & want better for them, then you're a patriot. Bootlickers don't get to claim that term. You'll get there. ✊👍
@dylanhaire9105
@dylanhaire9105 10 месяцев назад
hot take James harden is one of da influential player of all time
@matthieusaade3616
@matthieusaade3616 10 месяцев назад
5:10 If the Euroleague winner called themselves World Champion, y'all Americans would not be okay with it. So yeah it does matter . And also as long as Denver so doesn't compete against the best team in Europe and win they are not the world champ.
@shorewall
@shorewall 10 месяцев назад
Do you think Americans care what any other league says or does? We have multiple Pro Wrestling companies calling their champ the World Champion. And no one cares. Because that's what it is, Pro Wrestling. Americans don't care about the leagues in China, or Europe, or wherever, because their best players come to play in the NBA. So we see the best anyway.
@tbucfromsoundcloud
@tbucfromsoundcloud 10 месяцев назад
I always have said Wade's peak is amongst the greatest ever and I still stand by that
@Sqeaky6969
@Sqeaky6969 10 месяцев назад
Wade's peak is only good from a stats standpoint he never made any noise in the playoffs despite being in the weakest conference of all time. Compare that to other players peaks who aren't considered nearly as highly as dwade and even they performed better. For example George Gervin in his peak was the best scorer in the league a top mvp candidate AND led his team deep in the playoffs yet no one would say his peak was better than dwade despite it being more succesful.
@Querymonger
@Querymonger 10 месяцев назад
​@@Sqeaky6969A 3 time champ never made any noise in the playoffs?
@Sqeaky6969
@Sqeaky6969 10 месяцев назад
@@Querymonger during his peak which I'd say was 07-10 he didn't make any noise. I don't count 06 cus he wasn't all time great outside of shooting a bunch of ft's in the finals and that counts a lot for people but for me not so much. After Shaq left Wade had an okay team with solid role players, which in that east was good enough to make some noise but wade never played at that "2006 level" in the playoffs after the finals. If we're really gonna put Wade's peak against someone like Kobe we also have to compare It to guys around him as well. Harden in 2015 I'd say is very comparable at least team wise, Dwight was old and bounced around the league a couple seasons after, yet him and a team of role players made it to the wcf even coming back down 3-1 in a much tougher conference than dwade had ever been in
@Querymonger
@Querymonger 10 месяцев назад
@@Sqeaky6969 so when he had big numbers but didn't win, he's "only good from a stats standpoint". When he wins with less stats it doesn't count cause that's "not his peak". So what exactly would D Wade need to have done for you to consider him great
@Sqeaky6969
@Sqeaky6969 10 месяцев назад
@@Querymonger I would've liked to see him perform well when they win, I didn't discount his numbers being good because they won, I discount them because those numbers only came when he was in a most likely rigged finals. I actually think dwade is underrated not for his peak but because people think he had declined once LeBron got there because his numbers weren't as good. Think about it from a team perspective what's better ur best player scoring 40 but no one else in ur starting 5 even getting 10 or scoring 20-25 but also having 6 assists playing good defense the whole game and everyone else In ur starting 5 scoring 10+. When u really talk about Kobe's peak he could do that he could have 30+ 5 and 5 while also getting his teammates involved, During Wade's peak he just wasn't able to do that even alongside LeBron he had to take a step back otherwise him and LeBron would suffer and so would the team's offense
@pauliusmatonis1492
@pauliusmatonis1492 10 месяцев назад
I don't understand whats so hard to get about WC. There are NATIONAL teams, and there are LEAGUES. To be a World Champion you play for your CountryS NATIONAL team against other countries and you win a World cup like Germany just did. You don't buy those players most of the time it's home grown. If you win NBA, Euroleague, 5th elementary school league - you are that league champion. Every sport works that way all over the world. You can't BUY title of "world champion" thats the whole point. Thats why it's hard. All over the world title of Olympic or World champion is worth more than league championship for every sport.
@xmatrix035
@xmatrix035 10 месяцев назад
Steve Kerr is mid coach?, but exellent politician. Just like Phil Jackson
@Whoisveneno
@Whoisveneno 10 месяцев назад
Let me cook
@oephry3253
@oephry3253 10 месяцев назад
Hot take: Anyone dying on the hill that NBA teams can’t call themselves world champions is a virtue signaling loser who wants brownie points for saying “Everything doesn’t revolve around the US.” If you want to say that we shouldn’t call them that to be respectful to the Fiba World Cup then sure, I can get behind that. But claiming they can’t say that because they technically haven’t competed against the world is such cope. The NBA filters out the trash to get the best players and form the best teams in the world, which is obviously why we believe the Nuggets would smoke the Fiba cup is they competed. Also can Dennis Schroder as the Fiba MVP call himself the best player in the world? I think we all know he’s not even close to it.
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 10 месяцев назад
Facts
@Julian-hj4yn
@Julian-hj4yn 13 дней назад
The mavs made the finals…
@blackhawk156
@blackhawk156 10 месяцев назад
The winners of the Prem dont call themselves World Champions, Thats why the Champions league exists
@dantu5377
@dantu5377 10 месяцев назад
Joking would need to 3 peat
@pilapila183
@pilapila183 9 месяцев назад
It doesn't matter that the Americans would win if they really tried. We don't give awards for what ifs. Does Lebron have the right to go to every local 1v1 tournament and claim the first place title because he would have won if he entered? That would be ridiculous. You don't play, you don't get to claim the title even if you are better than everyone who did.
@kb24shortoreo21
@kb24shortoreo21 9 месяцев назад
It is world championship because the best in the world plays in the worlds best league.
@cormactierney3626
@cormactierney3626 10 месяцев назад
Where has this idea come from that the nuggets are a great defensive team? In the playoffs they were average, about as neutral as you can get. They were better than expected, but then in the finals they came up against a heat team that didn't stress the defence at all. If it's the Celtics in the finals I think the weaknesses of the nuggets defence, especially being able to drag jokic out of the paint on an island, become painfully clear and instead people are talking about how you can't win with a defensive liability like jokic as your center. I'm not saying jokic is always a liability, I'd say he's fairly neutral impact, but that kind of inflexibility is always going to be exposed by a bad matchup and the negative effect of that is only amplified when you're playing the most important defensive position on the court
@justc1re617
@justc1re617 10 месяцев назад
Did you not watch the playoffs? Jokic might not fill up the stat sheet defensively but he certainly showed he can be an effective and reliable defender in the postseason. You're also just blowing over the fact that he runs the best offense in the league easily. You don't exactly have to be Hakeem when your offense can outscore 90% of the league and your defense is making things difficult for the other team. That's why the swept LA. They got stops and the Lakers couldn't. The games were close you should be able to figure it out. Obviously Jokic isn't a 2 way God but acting like he's not a solid defender when it matters is just pure ignorance.
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 10 месяцев назад
Lol, what. They had the 3rd lowest DRTG, and he was a staunch enough Defensive presence. Shit bro, he had the 8th lowest DRTG in the Regular Season. He is not whatsoever a Defensive liability
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 10 месяцев назад
@@justc1re617 Exactly. Eye test proves this, stats prove it, and even abstract thinking proves it
@justc1re617
@justc1re617 10 месяцев назад
@@Jonathan-A.C. exactly. People literally just didn't watch and hate on Joker bc they don't understand how impactful he is. It's actually hilarious how often Joker is underrated
@shorewall
@shorewall 10 месяцев назад
@@justc1re617 They say Jokic is a bad defender and Embiid is a good defender, when they are really about the same. Embiid just picks up more blocks, so people think he's really good on defense. Just watch Game 7 against the Celtics, and watch Tatum PnR Embiid to death, which is what they said would happen to Jokic.
@Fernando_616
@Fernando_616 10 месяцев назад
Kobe was a better shooter AND defender than Wade dude. It’s not as close as some suggest Edit: lol… how many kids watch this channel? Either that or y’all mfs are devoid of history
@Nuthinnull
@Nuthinnull 10 месяцев назад
Wasn’t a better defender
@jimmycharlotin7050
@jimmycharlotin7050 10 месяцев назад
Like I've been saying this for the longest the media has the biggest on our sports fans to somewhat diminish kobe bryant legacy brick by brick and layer I always felt that because of the eagle Colorado incident, the toxic situation with Shaq and Phil and when he publicly called ESPN a bunch of idiot because of them ranking him 25th best basketball when he led his team to the playoffs with torn Achilles lol listen to nba basketball players not pundits such as nick wright
@Fernando_616
@Fernando_616 10 месяцев назад
@@Nuthinnull Dwade: 3x All NBA Defensive 2nd Team Kobe: 9x All NBA Defensive 1st Team AND 3x All NBA Defensive 2nd Team Shut your mouth 🤫 😂
@Virgil191
@Virgil191 10 месяцев назад
@@Fernando_616a decent bit of kobes all defense teams were pretty much just off rep by the end that he didn’t necessarily live up to, especially in his last few
@Fernando_616
@Fernando_616 10 месяцев назад
@@Virgil191 😂… they were all from 2000-2012. Only reason he doesn’t have more is because injuries set in. This isn’t close and I hope you can do better than that
@belafrank9866
@belafrank9866 10 месяцев назад
They loose because they can't play Team basketball and never bring any effort to the court.
@spojsvojs
@spojsvojs 10 месяцев назад
Bring it on the best players you are still equal with Yugoslavia 5:5 on WC
@-Violent_Chicken_Man-
@-Violent_Chicken_Man- 10 месяцев назад
Bron KD Jimmy and Tatum literally clears yogoslavia (or whatever that country’s name is)
@susanlee594
@susanlee594 10 месяцев назад
Yugoslavia dissolved... I'm sure we beat a country with no basketball team.
@spojsvojs
@spojsvojs 10 месяцев назад
@@susanlee594 ok I will correct myself since all the trophies by heritage went to Serbia then is USA - Serbia 5:5
@spojsvojs
@spojsvojs 10 месяцев назад
@@-Violent_Chicken_Man- 40yo, a washed star, choker great selection man 🤣 You could at least try
@susanlee594
@susanlee594 10 месяцев назад
@@spojsvojs Ok, that makes more sense. But USA still wins
@zappa3837
@zappa3837 4 месяца назад
I though Mark Jackson had faith in Steph and Play before Kerr. Is that BS?
@carltonrudolph
@carltonrudolph 10 месяцев назад
Wade dont even believe this
@agustindavid
@agustindavid 10 месяцев назад
Hola Rusty
@bradycoop
@bradycoop 10 месяцев назад
Curry probably highest all time with not being able to play defense.
@omer3107
@omer3107 10 месяцев назад
Americans are sure that they will beat everyone with their A team but will they? Of course if you take the union it will destroy small european countries but if you take specific states its a better comparison. Of coutse if you take a pool of 400 milion people they would beat europe who is seperated but if you level the playing feild and count the european union vs the union of the states its a damn good game and i think europe can win. Luka Jokic Giannis and many more great players
@shorewall
@shorewall 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, yeah, if you do this and this or that and that, then Europe can do ok. Import Africans to win your sports for you. At least we had the Africans in our country already. :D
@omer3107
@omer3107 10 месяцев назад
@@shorewall right they just magically appeared out of nowhere
@conorwatchvidz
@conorwatchvidz 10 месяцев назад
Randle obviously deserves criticism, but the hate and narrative surrounding him is way out of hand
@bakedizzle24
@bakedizzle24 10 месяцев назад
mavs invested heavily in defense this summer and their ortg with luka n kyrie both on the floor was 124.2 what the fuck are u talking about? sure they prob won’t make the finals but your take was just way off the mark as far as reasoning goes lol
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 10 месяцев назад
Great vid, although the point about patriotism is apt. If you don’t like the country at all, leave. Unless you think it’s still the best overall country, then it just doesn’t make logical sense to stay. And that’s just taking a look at it from a logical standpoint, not so much making any particular argument
@Herzeder
@Herzeder 10 месяцев назад
Yea like leaving a country is easy, right ? "logical standpoint" lol
@belarod5295
@belarod5295 9 месяцев назад
Make more sense next time
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 9 месяцев назад
@@Herzeder It really isn’t that hard to do in most cases if you want to leave. You’re not stuck in a war zone
@Jonathan-A.C.
@Jonathan-A.C. 9 месяцев назад
@@belarod5295 What doesn’t make sense about it?
@marker7443
@marker7443 10 месяцев назад
Jokic could never be like Jordan because Jordan was so much more than just a basketball player. Part of being the GOAT, whether people want to admit it or not, is having that superstar aura. Where your face is plastered on every new product like Gatorade or Nike. Even if Jokic was a “greater” basketball player, he could never be like Jordan or Lebron because he isn’t a traditional superstar.
@dontaviousdouglas2309
@dontaviousdouglas2309 10 месяцев назад
Peak For Peak Wade Was Slightly Better Imo.
@Coloradocrumble
@Coloradocrumble 9 месяцев назад
I certainly don’t call the USA the greatest country on earth, we have a lot to learn from other countries. but you’re supposed to take pride in your home, your friends, and your family. You want to tell Jokic or Luka that they shouldn’t take pride in their country? Because that’s effectively what you’re suggesting.
@michaelserfaty6921
@michaelserfaty6921 10 месяцев назад
James harden was the best player in the league for the small stretch he was healthy in Brooklyn. Almost nightly triple doubles with 10-16 assists a game. Actually trying on defense. Also the "best tennis player in the world" doesn't have to play vs every person who plays tennis to show he's the best in the world. If they beat the top 30 players I think they're confidently #1
@michaelserfaty6921
@michaelserfaty6921 10 месяцев назад
James harden held players in the post to 36.1% shooting. 4th best in the league behind Rudy Gobert, Julias Randle, and Bam Adebyo. Right infront of Steven Adam's 36.2%
@abtocool6350
@abtocool6350 10 месяцев назад
@@michaelserfaty6921when it was just him and kyrie when kd got injured, they were 22-5. I remember him in that stretch being top 3 in mvp.
@crashlight54
@crashlight54 10 месяцев назад
Dunno if you use just Tweets for these, or if RU-vid comments are eligible too, but here's my hot take: Patrick Ewing is overrated. Wicked talented player who had no business being a first option
@kingmeh9505
@kingmeh9505 10 месяцев назад
Is Dwayne wade a better slasher than jordan ?🤔
@dontaviousdouglas2309
@dontaviousdouglas2309 10 месяцев назад
Yes But It’s Close. Top 4 Slashers Ever - Bron , Wade , MJ & Westbrook. Can Get 2 Feet In The Paint Whenever They Want To.
@kingmeh9505
@kingmeh9505 10 месяцев назад
@@dontaviousdouglas2309 I’m definitely ain’t the type to disrespect wade but I dunno jordan jumping ability I feel made his shot making more effective then wade but on top of that wade had a lot of fakes in his bag too 🤔
@dontaviousdouglas2309
@dontaviousdouglas2309 10 месяцев назад
@@kingmeh9505 Nah Slashing Is Just About Your Ability To Get To The Rim.
@kingmeh9505
@kingmeh9505 10 месяцев назад
@@dontaviousdouglas2309 then Jordan ability to get to the rim might be better fr
@raiderleader4220
@raiderleader4220 10 месяцев назад
why aren't you proud of being american lol my family struggled to make it here
@shorewall
@shorewall 10 месяцев назад
For real. I don't understand it. People kill themselves to get here. Be grateful that we get to live here. Being unpatriotic isn't smart or cool. And being patriotic isn't the same as supporting the government no matter what.
@belarod5295
@belarod5295 9 месяцев назад
@@shorewallYes it is. He’s supporting America in his own way stop bitching about it.
@4kilometers
@4kilometers 10 месяцев назад
mj is the most iconic mf of all time no one will ever achieve that
@kohsmoger1567
@kohsmoger1567 10 месяцев назад
So Rusty you don't think steph is top ten yet?
@docrussojr
@docrussojr 10 месяцев назад
No. He still has some work to do.
@kohsmoger1567
@kohsmoger1567 10 месяцев назад
@@docrussojr I think one more ring and finals mvp puts him in there. With a few more all nba first and second team selections
@onarf
@onarf 10 месяцев назад
You are comparing DJ prime to Capela? Aint no way casual
@samVasquez-xb7be
@samVasquez-xb7be 10 месяцев назад
I find a peak a 3-5 year run. Wade did not have a better 3-5 run better than Kobe . A individual season he was better than Kobe yeah maybe.
@LucrativeLessonsWithLandy
@LucrativeLessonsWithLandy 3 месяца назад
this isn’t a “hot take”. he was the best player ever at his peak.
@alexfish128
@alexfish128 10 месяцев назад
Nba champs are the world champs
@jaydough8729
@jaydough8729 10 месяцев назад
All steve Kerr did was take Marc Jackson’s job 😂😂🤦🏾💯 and be a visual representative of a person who played wit Jordan so somehow winning is culture 😂😂🤦🏾 ooh yeah didn’t he play for the spurs ? Doesn’t really matter … Marc Jackson is the one who took them boys off the leash they literally was gonna break off of anyway 😂😂😂🤦🏾 they shoot to good and 3’s were rising regardless
@MaineMez
@MaineMez 10 месяцев назад
Steve Kerr changed the system that started the dynasty. He the one who started draymond and took curry off the ball and started the free flowing offense.
@shorewall
@shorewall 10 месяцев назад
Wow, a Marc Jackson defender? Lol.
@TheBadgerInMinecraft
@TheBadgerInMinecraft 10 месяцев назад
I agree randle is a scrub
@johncolomb8173
@johncolomb8173 10 месяцев назад
Deandre Jordan was better than Julius Randle at his peak
@Bearsacci
@Bearsacci 10 месяцев назад
This guy is ignorant with the Kobe vs Wade take. He even said it him self why! Just the fact that Kobe’s peak lasted way longer than Wades made Kobe way better.
@Herzeder
@Herzeder 10 месяцев назад
That's the weakest argument I've read. A peak can last longer while being significantly worse.
@MaineMez
@MaineMez 10 месяцев назад
His peak was better and longer tho.
@usmnt4423
@usmnt4423 10 месяцев назад
The world championship dude used the wrong “their” twice. Take completely invalid.
@blackout8777
@blackout8777 10 месяцев назад
overrated? Kerr drafted his team and built a dynasty how is that overrated??!
@0014000
@0014000 10 месяцев назад
What do you mean he drafted his team?
@urbaindelva7869
@urbaindelva7869 10 месяцев назад
Uh, no. Steph, Klay, and Draymond were all drafted years before he was hired. Also, coaches don't draft players. The front offices do.
@coopertodd28
@coopertodd28 10 месяцев назад
Julius averaged 24-10-6 wtf lol
@urbaindelva7869
@urbaindelva7869 10 месяцев назад
Then stunk it up in the playoffs AGAIN.
@quis.j6844
@quis.j6844 10 месяцев назад
Can the Denver Nuggets beat the German team that just won WITHOUT Nikola Jokic? That answer is no. There you go
@icebergslim9568
@icebergslim9568 10 месяцев назад
MPJ dropping a 50 piece with no drink
@shorewall
@shorewall 10 месяцев назад
Why would you take Jokic off of the Nuggets? What point does that prove? Jokic plays in the NBA.
@-Violent_Chicken_Man-
@-Violent_Chicken_Man- 10 месяцев назад
@@icebergslim9568WHO?
@susanlee594
@susanlee594 10 месяцев назад
Do the Germans win the world cup without Schroeder? No
@quis.j6844
@quis.j6844 10 месяцев назад
@@shorewall the point is that Jokic would not be eligible to play because he is not from the US. NBA is a league not international play
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