Just a note to say thank you. I purchased DXO and your LR Sports presets. My images from this past weeks games look great. Thank you again for your videos and recommendations.
I trialed it and they improved A LOT since ver 2 or 3 I tried a few years ago . i had to buy it now, it helps so much with bird photos on my Canon r7 !!
I remember switching to DXO. I thought the LR Ai Denoise was giving me some weird smudging in high saturated areas and I had to work around that by layering a denoised copy under the original output and mask/blend them. I trialed a few different software including Camera OEMs and ended up with DXO because the files were usable right out of the gate. It was also quick.
If you grab DXO photolab it has pure raw built in I import all my photos in dxo photolab apply my preset then my preset also is set up do add the denoise on export, I pick a folder let it go and it adds the " color" adjustments from my preset and the denoise as well, it also has a few levels of denoise to pick from
Good info Jack, I'm going to give it a try! My experience mirrors what you said. Ive had issues bulk processing sports photos in Photo AI and i always have to adjust the noise reduction down as it over does it. For wildlife photos i still use the regular topaz denoise as it always does a better job than Photo Ai.
Thanks for the great info here Jack. Are you using the DXO prior to edits in Lightroom, and if so any issues with Nikon raw files, which I still have with topaz?
I'm using it prior. And yes, issues with the new Nikon compressed RAW images is part of the reason I stopped using Topaz Denoise. They work in both DxO Raw 4 and Topaz Photo AI.
Using DXO Photo Lab and yea it's better than the others and what I find the faster your GPU and CPU on your computer the faster it batch processes files!
Great content as usual. Always appreciate what you share. Love DXO Pureraw 4, but it has significant performance issues when running on Mac hardware. Even with Mac M2 Ultra and 64GB RAM it still takes forever to batch process when compared to Denoise AI. End result is amazing though so I'm having to simply be patient. Seems to be bad coding as the app barely touches the GPU and CPU utilization. Wish Topaz would revisit their decision to abandon Denoise AI or DXO refactor their code to make better use of modern multi threading.
With a Macbook Pro M3 Max and 64Gb 1 Photo needs 7 Sec. for 200 Raws 20-25Minutes. Its okay, but when you need to deliver directly you cańt go with a extra Program. For Formula 1 i have no time, but for local soccer its the best program for sharpening and denoising
I'm still rocking Topaz Photo AI but the batch RAW processing never worked for me. The colors would be drastically different. Looks like DXO is the move!
So, the question is does adding denoise increase sales. vs. not adding denoise.? Thanks for keeping up with the different denoise software. It saves me the time doing it. ha ha
so Jack here is a big question, is it possible that DXO noise reduction could be the answer for shooting high ISO images like a HS football field at night using a F4 lens, for alot of this it could really open up possibilities
It depends on your camera. Some models (full frame 20-25 megapixels) tolerate noise better than others (full frame 45-60 megapixels or crop frame)- even with the best noise reduction. Also, it depends on your tolerance for noise. For example, my 25 megapixel Nikon D5 responded much better to very high ISO noise reduction than my 50 megapixel Z9. Even so, I’ll go to ISO 20,000 in the Z9. So, long story short, it depends on a lot of factors - how dark are those fields, how does your camera sensor perform, and what is your tolerance for the results? Long story short - there are some gyms and fields I could get away with f4 and 1/1000 sec. There are others I wouldn't even try.
Have you tested ON1 NoNoise AI 2024 against DXO? I'd be interested in the results. I went to ON1 because I was unimpressed with Topaz Photo AI but I'm open to other options if they are better.
I did some time ago, but I don't think I included it in a video. I don't recall it being better than the others I've used. Topaz Photo Ai is tricky to use, and you have to babysit it.
Im using pure 3 and its fantastic with my Fuji crop sensor files & as result i dont need full frame heavy gear anymore. Would it be worth upgrading to Pure Raw 4?
Does DxO Pure RAW 4 have AI sharpening capability like Topaz Photo AI 3? I’m looking for a program that will do noise reduction and also re-imagine detail in motion blurred or out of focus images, especially images with faces that have missed focus. What would you recommend?
How heavy are you going on the denoise in LR? This seems like a skewed comparison that you shouldn't really be making as pureraw does a lot more enhancing than purely the LR denoise tool. And it seems your using the denoise tool at quite a high % which explaines why all your LR denoise comparison shots have such loss of sharpness and look more denoised. A better comparison would have been if you would have put the denoise slider at 20-30% and left alt sharpened, left alt detail, left alt radius and left alt sharpness masked the LR denoised version . Pureraw is trying to perfectly do all this for you and sometimes is great, other times isn't but ultimately gives you less control over your denoising and sharpening process it as it works destructively. + In a general healthy workflow you should denoise and sharpen after editing to eliminate the potential of artifacting on a denoised images as you stretch the dynamic range while processing.
Super helpful and insightful! These tools are phenomenal… And only getting better with every release. Looking forward to them being built directly into the cameras… At least the noise, mitigation AI.
I beg to differ, it's exactly the same engine that runs both applications. If anything PhotoLab is superior because you're working with the original Raw file plus there are fine adjustments one can make in PhotoLab.
I have had limited success with 4. It will start erroring out files, but it never tells me what the error is. Once this errors out, the rest continue to fail.
