I am perfectly happy with PL7 and this seems such a small upgrade that it is not worth the money. If they had included upscaling software in PL8, then I'll consider it.
For 50€ I wouldn't hesitate a moment to update, but the current price seems a bit disrespectful to existing customers with version 7. The innovations are not so huge in my opinion that I would pay 109€... Peter, thank you for your videos. I think you're doing a great job ;-)
Thank you. Software has been quite good for years now that it is hard to come up with huge improvements. In my opinion DeepPRIME XD2s is quite big improvement compared to the previous version.
@@ForsgardPeter Really, in 2024? AI masking is an obvious and much needed addition, as is expanding the range of adjustments available locally, eg curves. In C1 virtually all of the controls are used on layers and you only have one set of menus not a separate set for local. The Selective Tone controls are in desperate need of improvement as their range extends over adjacent controls meaning that when you adjust one slider you normally need to compensate for the over reach by adjusting a different slider. They also need to remove these sliders adding local contrast adjustment at the same time. Well documented on the DXO forums. I want to be able to control when and if I want local contrast added. They could have added the U-Point controls from NIK so that shape can be changed and further enhanced with for example, the polygonal U-Point? Could they make a simple UI like comparing more than one photograph more clunky than they just did? I mean they could just take a look at C1 if they can't think of how to do it with good design. Just a few quick thoughts on how Photolab could be improved, hopefully a whole team whose job is to do this could do a much better job? I have used every version of Photolab but realistically this is a good "point" update, but not a new version release. During last years Black Friday the cost for upgrading Photolab was more than you could purchase a new licence (not upgrade) for Capture One Pro. Photolab at least seem to recognise the poor value of V8 and upgrade cost is down to £99. If you have V7 you could choose to upgrade or maybe purchase a new licence for ON1 PhotoRaw 2025? DXO need to recognise that they exist in a competitive environment and their glacially slow development may bleed users as we now wait another year for what has become standard editing tools/ capabilities in raw processors.
I will upgrade from PL6 to 8. PL6 has been my primary software for a few years now with Affinity Photo 2.0 used for the stuff PL6 doesn't do, which is very little. I have not used an Adobe product since they went to the cloud and my photography improved. I used to be a Photoshop instructor... Cheers.
I've only had PL 7 for less than a year so I probably won't update at this time. I'm wanting to add Silver Efex to my PL 7, hoping for an end of the year sale/discount. :)
I just wish those "pro" companies could think bigger than the computer and the limits of iPhone/iPad 😬 why are they all afraid of giving Adobe competition 🤔
sorry but I come to a different conclusion @5:15min ! The left side is sharper (more contrasty) than the right side ( looking at image on our 32" Mac Pro Display XDR )
I updated from 6 to 8 yesterday. The only thing i miss is th eoption to super size. I take bird pictures and I do not like the Topaz Gigapixel result. The feathers and colours is not so good
@@ForsgardPeter Thanks for the offer Peter,, I am not sure there is much you can do & it seems on the forum that it is an ongoing problem, not just a local issue for me. PureRaw 4 is setting the Lightroom Classic Process version to v1 not the current v6 - that happens both as a plugin and pre-processing in PureRaw & as a plugin it creates a new collection for each day & doesn't matter what settings are used around collections, it takes the user input once and reverts to it's own plan subsequently. The noise management for the OM1 Mk2 is fantastic, a step up from Topaz Denoise but the damage to the workflow is a disappointment and as it's been like it since first purchased, that is only since the start of August and I appreciate resolving software issues can take time but their support appears to be happy to collect logs but otherwise hearing of no practical progress.
I use Capture One and integration with DxO is problematic. Previously it was seamless with Nik v5 but when they launched v6 it kept crashing my MacBook Pro - DxO were super helpful and worked for 8 months to find a solution. I love PureRaw3 and Pure Raw4 for the improvements they make to the image but, again, I can’t use them with Capture One - I can export the file, process it with PR but can’t send it back to C1 because it says I already have a version of C1 running (obviously I do - the one I used to send it to PR in the first place!). It really disrupts my workflow. I’d like to give this a try but my workflow is complicated enough and I like C1 enough not to move to using PhotoLab entirely just because DxO products don’t really like C1.
I am totally confused by this segment of photography, I don’t use Adobe - I use Affinity, so “plug in” doesn’t seem to be a thing, I don’t want two processing suites just to have really great de noise, so the whole subject leaves me 🤷
Affinity is great, but doesn't let you organize or search for or browse your photos. You really need Photolab for that. Think of Photolab as Lightroom which will do most of your browsing and editing and Affinity as Photoshop which is for really detailed and complex photo edits. Chances are you only need Photolab. And if you run into something that you want to do and Photolab doesn't do it, then Affinity probably will.
I have never used Affnity, but I have heard a lot of good about it. You might not need anything else. Plug-in is a very good way to use several software. It is just a round trip to to do a special task like noise reduction or optics corrections.
I also like Martin Parr, one of my favorite photographer of all time. As he have said he wants to make fiction out of reality. I also like how he sees that photos are always subjective. What I do not like that much about his approach is the use of flash in street type photography and documentary. He uses it to saturate the colors. I think it is a good way for that. On the other hand it alters the reality when it comes to light. Yes it makes it more fiction so it makes sense.
@@ForsgardPeter Indeed, it really is a pity that many of the 3rd part developers, like Topaz, DXO, ON1 have ignored this platform. Hell, even Adobe’s LR Mobile is missing their updated ‘Denoise’ tool that are only available on their Desktop offerings (LR, LRc).
It hard to say why the Denoise version of noise reduction is not added to Lightroom Mobile version. Mobile devices are quite powerful so i would assume that it would be possible. Maybe it is a business decision?
@@ForsgardPeter If those AI denoising algorithms use a lot of RAM (which is common for AI algorithms), there's a chance running them on an iPhone with its 6GB of RAM and an OS that kills the app as soon as it takes too much RAM is a no-go.
Noise reduction, sharpening and enlargement is possible with Topaz AI that only works with JPG files. I sometimes use it after working with DxO7, as these functions seem to work better in Topaz than in DxO.
