Dylan vs John Argue Live | Moderated & Instigated by Mark 

Losing 12-0 then even speaking about basketball feels like one of the 7 deadly sins😂😂

Keep in mind, John was walking at night to McDonald’s, arguing on the phone discord 😂

Mark saying "don't bring me into this" while bringing himself into this

John playing mind games with Dylan is funny 😂

Dylan is sorry in 5s and John is sorry in 1s. That's basically it 😂

Both had very solid points, felt like an ace attorney trial

John’s level of self-awareness is hilarious 😂😂

“I’ll do it to you Dylan.” I don’t think John was talking about Basketball anymore, he was about to smoke his ass.

This is the most ghetto ace attorney video ever 😆

@6:42 “John never hit a shot, as matter of fact Ion think john even touched the ball”😭😭 How you arguing with tony snell Dylan.

John’s argument, in a nutshell: “I’m better than you when I have help” 🤣

This argument was annoying as hell bc its basically just Dylan admitting that he can’t shoot 😂😂😂😂

Nah im with dyl on this one. If john cant lock him up 1v1 and he claims he's getting no help then somethings not adding up. The main two differences between 1's and 5's is teammates and spacing. If john is locking Dylan up alone as he claims then he should be able to do that 1v1. What i think is happening is Dylan can't plan his plays well. He doesn't know how to get to a position to score because theres people all over the court and he can't space well. If thats the case then he can 100% get pass john easily he just has nowhere to go AFTER the fact and john is thinking "Damn im really locking him up he looks lost"

I think im with Dylan on this one. John being petty asf, he trying to take any dub he can. He still funny asf tho 😂

Dylan is right but Johjn likes being obtuse because Dyl can't avoid the bait lmaooo

I get what they both saying. 1 v 1 defense is different from 5 v 5. Dylan is saying John is not the problem. It’s the other 🥷 on the court. They might not be helping but they still in the way. I’m assuming that in the 1v1 all of Dylan’s points came form simple blow-bys and John couldn’t keep up. 5 v 5 gives you a lot less space to work with. Sounds like it’s more Dylan being a one dimensional player than John doing anything to stop him other than fouling 😂😂😂

Lmao. This how you argue with ya brothers. No blows. Jus calling each other trash 😂😂😂

I like how Mark said “dont put me in this” …. Then proceeds to start an argument with Ipi 😂😂 natural instigator

Dyl is def right. You can’t say you can lock a nigga down and not be able to do it 1v1. That means for whatever reason he needs the other four people to have a chance. And also 12-0 is crazy 😂😂

Chat spamming “2 Point Patel” i’m dead 😂

Their inability to tell John how trash he is is mind blowing to me lol 😂

Damn 12-0 is a sorry 1v1

Right, wrong, indifferent...12-0 is crazy 😂😂 That's enough for me not to bring up this argument if I was John lol

Bruh, if you lose 12-0 1v1 don't say a word. Doesn't matter about team games, you're still sorry John 🏀.

Basically Dylan is just scared of the other ppl but not scared of John 😂

Dylan logic making sense ngl

I do get John's logic. His tactics rely on the 5v5 environment. He's not claiming that he is better than Dylan in a 1v1 environment or that he's better than Dylan at all. It's just that in a team environment his tactics are enough to stop Dylan.

I don’t think the 1v1 argument works, because to win 1v1 you have to be a better SHOOTER and DEFENDER. John is only arguing that his defense is better than Dylan’s offense.

Nah I love the fact that Dylan keeps bringing up a 1 V 1. Like bro John admits he can't beat you on a one on one, and that everyone says he gets locked up on a 5 V 5. They literally running in circles with this bruh.

All the people that hoop ya know exactly what type of hooper John is Ik he gotta be hacking crazy it’s always the non hoopers that swear they got the craziest defense 😭

John wrong and it’s simple. You either lock someone down or you don’t. If he can’t lock him down in a 1v1 then the legit ONLY difference in a 5v5 is the team aspect. And he’s trying to take credit for all of it. The issue is that John be taking credit like he’s locking him down but for some reason he says he can only do it during 5’s….but says he don’t need the help of teammates. Make that make sense. In 5’s the court shrinks and the teammates just standing there limits a player from doing things. It’s not John by himself locking him downn

They both right to an extent they just arguing to argue😭 imo 5v5 really shows who's really a hooper. 1v1 just shows how u rank with that opponent, that's all

We gotta see this live 😂 this might be better than the finals

I’m mad I missed this live lmao

Mark: "So what happened between you two during basketball?" Also Mark: "Don't put me in this"

John was on his head 😂

It sounds like there is less space for Dylan to drive in a 5v5, so even if John's teammates aren't really helping, Dylan is still having an issue with their presence in the lane, but in 1v1's he just has to get by John once in space.

I'm with Dylan and L teammates. To lock someone down with no help means you should be able to do 1v1, the only difference with 5v5 is you get help and usually if help comes the right basketball move is to pass to the open man.

The chat said “2pt Patel”😭😭😭😭

All John is saying is that he is good at defense in a 5v5. Of course Dylan would blow him out in 1v1 as they already established that he is not a scorer or good at ball handling. If you are on a team, everyone does not have to be main scorers.

I think it's more of a Spacing issue which is why Dylan was struggling in THAT 5's, I don't think spacing should be automatically categorized as "help defense" dylan being swift would be able to easily win in a 1v1 situation since he has more space to play.

yall meat riding dylan rn i get some ngas dont f with john but he was right he never said he was better he said every time they played 5s he locked him up and Dylan's teammates even said john was not getting help it sound like dylan needs hella room to run around john and make points

So John is basically Kuroko, he can't actually score on his own - he needs his team to be effective with his tactics. lol

John is a whole character 😂

So I figured it out, John do be locking Dylan up, but John already said he can’t shoot for shit so Dylan would eventually win the 1v1 since he can shoot and John can’t. It’s basically a person that knows how to use a gun vs a person that is scared to hold a gun but good at self defense.

john be convincing them like the crooked man

“Four pretty cold niggas and John” is OD 😂

Everybody is repeating John side of the story and Dylan is just grasping at straws. Lol

How is this an argument lol. They established that John can't guard Dylan 1v1, but they're saying he has him in a 5v5 just to instigate lol.

this was hilarious, if john is gonna do one thing it’s troll. and i think he does that better than dylan ngl 🤣

John’s whole argument proves Dylan’s point about it’s the help defense and not John😂

I see what John means, in a 1v1 Dylan would have the entire court to use so that he can get around John but in a 5v5 Dylan doesn’t have that freedom and is more likely to have drive right past John instead of going around. Doesn’t necessarily mean that John is receiving help but the pressure that others bring doesn’t allow for Dylan to wash him. Also everyone else was basically sayin that while John sometimes received helped there were also times where Dylan just couldn’t score on him.

Dylan and John beef stem from way back lowkey from the COD days John lowkey holds grudges and don’t like listening to criticism. Now John and Ben beef is on a whole different level 😭💯 like John is Ben L straight up.

John is honestly unintentionally funny lmfao everytime he try to be funny it's mad cringe but let that man start being honest and real bout some shit it be funny asf fr idk why it's like this 😂😂😂😂

"Instigated by Mark". As it always is.

Yo John is quickly becoming one of my favorite RDCWORLD1 Members. He is Funny AF 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

they was arguing for over an hour 😂 i went to sleep and woke up and they still on the same points

5v5 even if no one helps is still different that a 1v1. Theres always the pressure of the possibility of someone might help him out and then u gotta consider whether you will pass to your teammates.

Every friend group has a Dylan vs John type matchup. My friend group has two Mo vs jak and myself vs my arc nemesis sha 😂

It’s A Simple Answer. Spacing.

Its crazy how they’re both right and wrong at the same time. Soon as mark get back this happen mark gold medal is secured for life.

I’m with John on this one

Dylan's argument should have been something like "ANYONE is locking me up in 5v5. You aren't special."

John accomplished his mission. He just wanted to annoy Dylan and get him out of rhythm and it worked. If Dyl job is to score and he only got 3 points then he got locked up

I am always here to support John. Please be back on the stream more : ) You mad funny!!! This was funny as shit! Lock him up 🤣🤣

I see where John coming from. A 5v5 and a 1v1 are two different games

Basically John sorry at 1s, Dylan sorry at 5s, and Mark shows us why he's the gold medal champion for Instigating

"I don't think anyone in the chat is buying your story Dylan." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

0:00 off rip got me rolling

“Are we arguing for 3 points !?” 😂😂😂😂

John taking credit for help defense is crazy

I get what John was saying and bringing up the 1v1 12-0 is unfair because John already admitted to not being good at anything on offense so eventually it’ll lead to the game ending in a 12-0 if that make sense

John's rebuttal game ain't never been this crazy lol

Jon has a couple of points admitting that he's not a hooper or is better than Dylan, but shouldn't assume correlation equals causation because the fact was proven in a 1v1 setting he can't guard Dylan. Dylan doesn't need to stoop to Jon's level and is letting him win in that aspect. He should bring better proof/facts because Dylan's arguments/points are subjective. He should stick to mutiple things like in a 5v5 setting, spacing on the floor is a thing not just help defense, he is looking around to set others up not just put your head down looking to score for yourself because if you weren't looking around in 5v5 setting you should just play 1v1. Maybe he is getting fouled a lot and isn't calling it and his teammates even see it, but at some point you have to call the foul because let's say it isn't Jon and it's someone else and you don't call foul they will either keep doing it cuz they don't think it's a foul cuz you're not calling it or they are going to foul you harder and that isn't basketball anymore. From a 3rd party looking from the outside not knowing much about basketball it would almost seem even or slightly tilted towards Dylan. But if Dylan just defended himself better, case would be closed. TLDR: Dylan should've won the argument, but doesn't know how cuz Jon is in his head

THE UNDISPUTED THUBNAIL!!!!!!! IM DEAD

I never laughed so much watching one of their streams 😂

why john look like a 2k player in the thumbnail 😭

mark might be an instigator but john is pure evil

Funny how the rest of the crew are saying John can actually lock down Dyl, but somehow Dyl's 'proof's in the pudding' explanation is getting traction😂😂😂. The issue is if John is that bad at basketball he won't make any shots no matter how open he is.

How is John so sorry at everything these guys do. Basketball, COD, Mario Kart, every fucking game they play he is sorry. Is that just his thing?

John's strongest W since eenie meenie miney moe and the Leland wave wars

Why didn't Dylan just say "lets run 5s then" and prove that John is sorry...?

This is basically just Dylan saying he can’t shoot while John and Mark clown him

When was this? Bro twitch don't be sending out them notifications bruh 😂😂😂

Ippy confirmed new RDC member?

You really goated with these thumbnails bruh😂😂

“The proof is in the pudding” -Big Dyl

We need to see a live video of a 5v5 staring john and Dylan

Dylan be capping

dylan gets nervous when more people are watching him hoop, hence why he appears to be get locked up by john 5v5

I think John is locking Dylan up cause of spacing cause in a 5v5 u have less room to just dribble around

the faces mark is making be killin me 😂😂

Bro if a nigga 12-0 you, you can not gaurd him in no way shape or form😭. Dylan is right the difference in the 5v5 is help D, it’s clear he don’t have a problem getting past John, it’s just that he doesn’t know how to score on the other defenders helping in, so therefore any logical person can see it’s not John locking him up, it’s Dylan not knowing how to score on help D😂

John conned himself into RDC but Dylan will be dammed if he lets him con everyone into thinking he’s got big Dyls number😂

They fr arguing who is better between the sorriest offense and the sorriest defense 👏🤣

“GUYS PLEASE” 💀

Nah cause I could understand this. Playing 5s will change the way you play defense, doesn't have to be help, it could just change the way you man up because you know there are other people so it changes the mindset and I guess the mindset change could in some ways help someone clamp.

Its simple. Dylan struggles in transition

5v5 Is a lot different than 1v1. John probably better at managing space when it comes to 5v5 to lock up or prevent his guy from scoring efficiently. That’s all it is.

if all John has is defense, of course he can't do 1's, all dyl needs is the stamina and time. that 12 prolly took over an hour