Dyson V11 Review Vacuum - Best In Depth Testing and Comparison 

Thanks. Many of the videos on my channel attempt to do justice to the best technology I've come across on these products that make the vacuuming chore easier-mostly from Dyson it seems, given they pioneer and others copy. Hopefully their next flagship product will be released in March, so we'll see what's in it.

Hope you enjoy it and that it matches my review

With the V11 on auto I can hoover near the dog and he just sniffs it , with the old cheap hoover he hid under a table.

How's your experience?

haha I thought the same. Imagine some of these people who complain non-stop about 'accidentally hitting the trigger' actually owning a gun.

Always learn the trigger rest.

@@VacuumFacts I don't agree with you much but great point.

@@theanalogkid2778 You're always welcome to present a strong, objective evidence-supported argument based on well-established textbook facts to counter my own. (No one ever does of course [because they're always shown to be wrong]). :)

@@VacuumFacts I am at least glad you back up your points and I respect that. Keep doing what you love.

I don't see why so more than any other vacuum. It's very light and ergonomic so probably much less so than other vacuums, even other cheap clone stick vacs which are heavier and without the ergonomics. This is also designed for all floors and performs amongst the best overall.

Its performance is pretty much the same as far as is marketed. The extras are to compensate for the increased size to maintain cleaning effectiveness. Having to juggle with battery management is a very inelegant and polluting solution, so the V11 is better for the majority of people in that regard, especially for smarter, bitesized cleaning.

The cyclones don't get dust-loaded due to the high aerodynamic forces and so there's no need to clean them. The internal cyclone dust chamber is supposed to be dusty throughout its entire lifetime (except when factory new of course) and in no way causes any performance or odour issues as discussed here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-B8gOZ31CkvE.html . Being able to turn the machine on when the bin is open is a design flaw as far as I'm concerned given there are no advantages and only disadvantages. Hopefully they'll fix it for the next generation.

You bend down and push the machine under the bed. It reaches as far as any vacuum would. Quite why you'd need to reach further than a place no one can see, ever goes, or affects anything is another matter.

Carla what is QVA?

@@bruceiler9399 QVC not qva its like HSN. Google QVC

I can't unfortunately. See if others have tested that, otherwise ask Dyson. They'll probably say no.

There are benefits to the cordless formfactor over the old-fashioned upright model. They both clean well. It's your decision really. Look at the pros and cons of each and make a decision. Having moved to the cordless formfactor with the V10 (i.e. a cordless done properly-not a copycat clone), I'd never want a plug-in again.

Ha, I take it you saw my Kirby review then

Other than the Vuplex one you've seen, there's this that it referenced: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TjUdD6FZtMY.html

Essentially, empty the bin, rinse the filter monthly, and check for excess hair on the brush bar. In other words, just do what the manual says :) Take a watch through my videos from the first one. All relevant really to learning about how these machines work. Also helps immunise you against the nonsense the dodgy channels peddle.

@@VacuumFacts Thank you!

I use a proper PC and professional desktop video editing software. There are loads e.g. Vegas, Adobe Premiere, CyberLink PowerDirector, Movie Edit Pro etc.; all similar.

Dyson say the newer head is a bit better. Not sure about the look without seeing an image. They're always tweaking designs, so it may be a legitimate difference.

@@VacuumFacts ok thank you, appreciate it :)

Hi. Claims about losing a warranty by using a Dyson product are pure propaganda. You can automatically distrust anyone who says that or who stands by them. If the Kirby caused no problems for your delicate carpet, worn brush or not, then neither will the Dyson (or likely any vacuum). Carpets are designed to withstand vacuum cleaners; in fact, any carpet that wasn’t, wouldn’t be worth having. The Dyson manual ( www.dyson.co.uk/content/dam/dyson/maintenance/user-guides/en_GB/vacuum-cleaners/sticks/dysonv11stick/281477-01.pdf ) advises that you can use ‘-‘ mode for delicate carpets.

Whether it's worth it is a subjective matter really, determined by the individual paying. If people sold their V10 and paid the resultant upgrade price, like I did, it will work out cheaper than buying new.

Comparable to a light ball in terms of head sticking (especially on '+' mode on auto). It cleans amazingly well in auto mode too. The Light ball finds very little afterwards, even if you haven't used it for a long time and only used the V11. I'd save up and wait for a V12 at this stage though.

Thank you for your reply. I was thinking that but who knows when the V12 will be out and i can imagine it will be £600+. It is reassuring to hear that it sucks as well as the light ball, i was reading that is only used 30(ish) AW on auto compared to the 100AW that the light ball uses all of the time.

@@dikofdeath Airwatts do not directly translate to cleaning performance. You can learn more here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EhcF0MH9HfQ.html

Yes, by design and without any problems. That's why it's great; no battery management hassle; just leave it on there and it's always ready to go.

Yeah, gates down in auto-mode sucks so hard that it deep-cleans the carpets really quickly. With regular housekeeping, dust doesn't wiggle that deep between regular vacuumings, so you can get good enough cleaning with gates in the middle, which makes it far easier to push and not a workout. Plus, then you don't ever need to change any setting; just take off the wall and use.

How is it? Also me too I ordered the v11 a few days ago it should arrive tomorrow I see the v11 good enough and didn’t need the v15

@@timothyonipad hello! I’m still loving my V11. I use it almost daily, I love it so much. I don’t regret not getting the V15. I hope you like yours…”Happy vacuuming!” 🙋🏻

@@christinad3757 thanks for the quick reply:D. Good to know now I’m 100% confident in my purchase. it’s mainly a gift for my mother cos she’s been stuck with a bad one for a while but I think I’ll have some fun with it too:)

@@timothyonipad I’m sure your mom will be happy with it. All the best to you and your family 🇨🇦

It's twice as powerful, so 100% more on top of what it originally had (two 50 Watts is 100 Watts).

Vacuum Facts Awesome, cheers for clarifying 👍

There are still those that influence others on YT who claim, without evidence, it can't compete with a corded vacuum. Amazingly misleading (and corrupt) really. All other cordless clones genuinely can't replace a mains cleaner, as my testing quantifies and explains why in my other reviews. The overpriced lousy knockoffs still manage to fool people and sell like hotcakes though. Terrible how the world works to screw people over for profit.

@@VacuumFacts I was truly amazed at how strong it is and the convenience of just being able to grab it when you need it is just awesome. I’ve been telling everyone at work and all my friends about my newest gadget and they’re looking at me like I’m crazy when they realize I’m talking about a vacuum. I’m usually the guy they turn to when they need help with buying a tv or a computer but a vacuum is something completely new for me and I’m completely sold on it and I’m sure I’ll influence more than a few of them to go and buy one as well.

Yeah, agitation and wet-cleaning are myths I've debunked on my channel. Most commercial vacuums are poor-as I've also shown, and are outclassed by a Dyson. Many are hostile at me even for saying this, but they'll wilfully deny evidence.

That claim conflicts with reality. Ask them to provide the data to support their claim; I guarantee they won't.

Yes. Most vacuums do. Although such flooring is relatively difficult to clean as effectively because of all the air gaps they generate near the cleaner head.

Suprised it's taken this long. Failures are rarely down to faulty tech or design, but simple user error (neglect and abuse). To determine exactly how a battery has failed (or what that really means), I'd only really accept detailed evidence by a professional battery expert. I'm not hopeful though. A new battery is £50 from Dyson direct.

Probably, but check the manual (or plug) for power compatibility

Vacuum Facts you mean the manual that I received with the unit after purchasing the product? I want to know ahead before investing my money on it as all my home wall-socket is 220v

No, I mean the manual you can review online on Dyson's website under the support > guides section. Alternatively, you can contact Dyson directly and ask them the question.

Vacuum Facts ohh now I get it , I might do that right now. I actually did contact them through email letter a week ago but unfortunately I didn’t get an answer from them. I even sent them message on their official Instagram account too

I just checked my plug for you. My UK-sold V11 is rated for input voltage 100-240 V at a frequency of 50-60 Hz (so compatible with Europe, the US, and most of the world's mains power).

why not just replace the filter, the bin and use an electronic duster on the cyclones?

haha well it's your money. Do you want instant gratification and a (slightly) lower cost for 2-year-old tech that still blows the competition away, or do you want to wait for a bit, pay more, but get the latest tech? Up to you.

I also note it's not on sale on the UK website :/

@@VacuumFacts That is exactly my dilemma. Honestly can’t go wrong either way. Dyson is like Apple in the sense that even when they’re on sale it is not by much. If you’re in the market to spend as much as the competition as the Dyson then the price is negligible. Eventually they’ll improve on whichever one I get so i’ll probably just end up getting the torque drive. Its 599.99 USD right now. I was tempted by the LUPE initially but I mostly have hard floors and only have rugs but no carpet. So the Dyson is more than enough. Plus I don’t like the way the LUPE looks. Always been a Dyson fan.

@@ShadowCaster3214 The Lupe also doesn't perform as well and isn't as user friendly in many ways, as outlined in my review, despite costing more. Go figure.

What have you heard? What does the manufacturer say and how does it compare on paper? For example, do they explicitly market that their product can replace a mains-powered cleaner directly? If they don't then it's junk. The best cordless cleaners have been able to for a couple of years now. There are only two I'm aware of; the V10 and the V11. What about everything else that's important (usability, environmental impact, specifics of underlying technology)? The reality is, the Tineco S12 product line is a Dyson cash-in clone that doesn't do as good a job in any area you look at of its technology.

@@VacuumFacts It is directly competing with the Dyson and holds up. It has a more powerful suction than the V10 while the V11 just barely beats it. It has better features and it's LCD display is more informative. It uses a different method to conserve battery than the V11 by increasing power whenever it detects more dirt. I just think maybe you should try one. The filtration system is also the only one that is as good as the Dyson.

Some of these things they mention on their marketing page, but it's not wholly convincing because they don't evidence any of it. It's not clear how you've reached your interpretations of their marketing either. For example, what do you mean by 'better features' and why are they are better? How is the LCD more informative? What information does it provide that is confirmed useful? What is the method you mention that it uses to conserve battery? How much more effective is it? Where is the data? How does the battery life compare? You do realise that it's absurd logic to suggest that if it can't detect dirt, there isn't any there and it doesn't need as strong suction? It's well established, utterly basic physics that more suction = more airflow through resistive pile, and therefore more potential to clean (pile separation is also critical), up to the onset of clamping. That system sounds utterly wrong and marketed to trick people who don't understand. Is it fade-free performance? What about weight? You claimed the filtration system is as good as the Dyson one; how, in what way, and where is the evidence? While I wouldn't not mind trying one; they're grossly overpriced for what you get, and I don't feel even slightly compelled to try one from the lack of good, evidence-supported reasoning presented.

@@VacuumFacts The display is more informative because it shows you important information such as the amount of dirt it's detecting. It's a more sensible method to conserve battery life than what Dyson came up with. The Dyson just increases suction based on whether it's on carpets or not regardless if the carpet has dirt embedded in it or not. You will never know how dirty it is. The Tineco is lighter and more ergonomic. It has a trigger lock which the Dyson still refuses to include for some reason. The Tineco motorized head also gets far less tangles. The main thing it's significantly worse at than the Dyson is separating dirt from the filter. It also has an app that keeps track of just how much dirt you're picking up.

OK, reflecting on that. Given that there are good reasons why the amount of dirt being detected is irrelevant, that’s not a useful bit of info to show on the screen. I don’t want to be reading a screen while I’m vacuuming; I just want to get the vacuuming done. What dirt remains in the carpet is more important and that is measured formally using industry standard testing. Dyson’s method increases suction in situations known to require more suction. Carpets require more suction because they resist airflow; without that higher suction and pile airflow, dirt can remain trapped in the pile. It’s true Dyson assumes higher suction is required on carpet-and that’s because why else would you be vacuuming if the carpet wasn’t dirty? So, it’s a perfectly reasonable assumption. And conversely, it is well-established that on hard floor, less suction is needed to achieve total pickup. So, if the Tineco system detects dirt on a hard floor, it will waste battery power by increasing suction when it’s simply not needed. You still also haven’t accounted for the problem I pointed out on carpets. If it doesn’t detect dirt-because it’s trapped deeper down and needs greater suction to remove-and switches to low power mode to ‘conserve battery’, then you’ll not get a good cleaning result. The ‘smart’ system works against the user. Again, where is the industry test data to prove it actually works? It’s because it doesn’t and they know it; any company that can show formally through independent testing that they clean the best will proudly advertise it, as Dyson does. Also, what is the battery life? Presumably it’s longer than the V11 (under situations where it should clean as well), otherwise all the claims about saving battery life are completely irrelevant if it doesn’t even last as long. Where is that data? And what about product weight? You say it’s lighter, but didn’t actually give any numbers, especially in light of battery life. Anyone can half the battery capacity and say it’s lighter. The Dyson V11 battery is extremely light yet provides huge run time greater than both batteries provided by competitor products. And then there’s all the other factors that are important to cleaning performance other than just suction and pile-airflow alone, such as pile separation. I've discussed and shown all this in great detail in other videos. The reason why the trigger lock isn’t included is well-explained and documented. I've even discussed it in my videos. In short, a trigger lock promotes battery power wastage and reduced battery service lifetime. Intelligent use of a trigger gives up to 30% more battery run time on a charge. There’s no situation when cleaning floors where a trigger lock would even be beneficial. Dyson’s trigger is feather touch and requires no more force than holding the handle, so ‘hand-tiredness’ is a lie. And where is the evidence the motorised tool gets ‘far less tangles’, as you’ve claimed? You're making a lot of claims but not backing any of them up. Anyone can do that and that’s not how you convince anyone. And what’s the point of an app that tracks how much dirt you’re picking up. I can already see what I pick up in the bin and other than that, I don’t really care. That’s just more work messing with an app. There’s literally nothing about the Tineco that’s appealing to me the more you talk about it-and in fact, the more I'm seeing that makes it so much worse and not worth my time, exactly as suspected from initial review of its marketing.

The shark cordless (the equivalent ot the V11, rather than a mains cleaner) is adequate, but as my review showed, there is far superior technology out there ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-I9wBMTuX8iU.html

Boost is for quick pickup of extreme spills (like knocked over plant pot), not for general cleaning. Default mode 2 is designed for general cleaning and optimises power and battery life.

Around 6 mins on boost for me it's for patches on the carpet that are really bad like where people's shoes first make contact with the carpet after the door mat or walked in spilled coffee jar. Auto still tugs at the carpet and fills the bin.

Thanks. I'll try and tone it down in the review videos. Unfortunately, there's a lot of deliberate misleading nonsense out there and hostile attacks on my channel which often needs a stern smackdown. Compared to the abuse I get on here, I'm pretty mild :)

Think it’s aggravating to the author when he knows there’s disagreements that are directed to him and his work so he’s just trying to defend his stance; not an issue but lacks context for newer viewers

Also thank you for the video. I truely appreciate the effort you put into it.

Thanks. The Dyson cordless cleaners are intended for home use and not for those providing a cleaning service, who vacuum far more than typical home users. As such, the lack of battery hot-swappability for that purpose is a moot point. When it's included for these home use products, it's a sign of technological inferiority and shouldn't be respected at all, given the significant additional environmental harm it does, not to mention battery management hassle and ripping off the customer who can get their cake and eat it now with better products.

@@VacuumFacts Is this still your opinion after the release of the V15? Not trying to troll, honest question. It is perhaps a response to market demand and or increasing use by proffessionals / small business owners. And not supplied as standard (except with the new version of the Outsize I think? Though that is very much targeting owners of larger footprint housing or small business users) which mitigates the environmental concern.

@@craiglawrence5211 Yes, for most bite-sized home use. I'm sure it was introduced mainly to cater for their foray into the commercial world, where such a feature is a clear advantage with current battery technology. The other point I was making was why hot swappable battery tech was introduced in non-Dyson copycat models. Their machines were so inefficient and power guzzling that they absolutely had to bundle tons of batteries with the machine to match run times, and therefore needed hot swappability. Dyson could get away without the battery management hassle and a single battery because their motors were much more efficient. People didn't register this and failed to see the introduction of a hot swappable in non-Dyson machines as a copout. I still think it's unnecessary for most people with the V15. Again, Dyson introduced it at the time they moved into the commercial world with lots of floor space and much heavier usage than in a home, which makes sense. Dyson still only bundle one battery in most models. But when you see copycats bundling 3 or more batteries (at cost to the user) just to match run times, people should be aware of the unnecessary pollution their total lack of efficiency is causing. Dyson may now be guilty, but nothing like on the scale of the copycats, minute-for-minute runtime compared.

No, never had any problems. It's designed to be very hard to break it. Did he use it as a pogo stick? :)

@@VacuumFacts I don't know how really. He blamed the dyson but the dyson is not to blame, becouse i use a vacuum cleaner and i know how strong and durable it is. Ok THANK YOU for your reply. We are now trying to buy a new one, but it is difficult because of the corona virus and we don't have a Dyson store in our country and we do not have an official dyson store online...

@@bojandjordjevic1890 If it is still under warranty, call Dyson and they might fix/replace the parts for free.

Lol then there'd never be any reviews. And I'm still accused of being a Dyson shill by the haters, regardless. Can't win.

@@VacuumFacts it's just good when a reviewer says if they got it for free from a company to review, or if they paid for it themselves. I mean either way, I'd hope the reviewer would still give an honest opinion either way. Unfortunately it doesn't always happen like that. But yours seemed legit, and honest.

If you get given something for free, the expectation is that you say something nice to help the people who gave it to you shift units. So therefore you have to say something nice, the review becomes biased, and you become a marketing shill. I'm warts and all and can't be bought or corrupted. If someone ever gives me something, it'll be on the understanding that anything bad or inferior will be exposed. I don't expect to ever get anything for free, as such :P

There are many 'vacuum enthusiasts' out there that love coming on my channel and being hostile, who sing praise about the Sebo machines. Unfortunately they never provide any convincing objective evidence to support their claims, and when you combine that with their continuously debunked and misleading content and myth-spreading, it all adds up; there simply isn't any good reason to believe a high-end sebo performs amongst the best at all.

@@VacuumFacts Sure is bummer, I spent good money for this machine. I will keep it but Sebo pulls carpet debris no better than my Dyson V11.

Yeah, been like that for a while now. Much like the old DC35.

@@VacuumFacts yes since Spring 2020 they updated all V11 models to click-in removable battery. Very nice upgrade.

I guess, although I doubt most people would have a reason to take their battery out. I've never needed to once in all the time I've had my V11. Even in the rare off-chance of a battery failure, two screws to slot a new one in was suc a minor issue. There's also no need for two batteries for most use cases either; unlike inefficient competitor products, 1 battery lasts far longer than any sensible person would want any single cleaning session to be, and smarter vacuuming this wall-charging, cordless formfactor allows means people can break cleaning up into more bitesized, manageable, and less tiring sessions. It's a trivial upgrade really from what I can tell.

@@VacuumFacts people with bigger houses would find themselves the need for additional battery. We were vacuuming one day and the battery died after 45 mins of vacuuming the 2nd floor. We could easily swap another battery to finish the 1st floor without wiating for the battery to charge.

Wow, you spent 45 minutes vacuuming in one session and wanted to carry on? Quite the marathon chore. I've had enough after 20 minutes. But I and many others have taken advantage of the cordless formfactor and broken up the weekly mega whole-house cleaning chore into smarter, bitesized cleans. Took a bit of getting used to but it's so much better. Maybe upstairs one day, downstairs another. Couple of rooms here, couple of rooms there when it suits or is needed if high traffic. Plonk it back on the wall to charge when done. Never needed more run time. But yes, for those that favour an endurance clean, then more batteries (at the expense of the wallet and environment) can help and the hotswap can help. Although, then you've got the problem of battery management and remembering to charge them all, and storing them, and getting them out again, which is a pain.

Because it takes ages and prevents it from being used in a digital on-off-on-off smart-battery-managed way to maximise run time from charge. Old conventional motors which spin up slowly are also heavy and bulky. If you wait an hour, there's a new video coming which will cover this very point by example.

Vacuum Facts Looking forward to that 😁

Most people don't try to put their Dysons inside their wallet. The following is also true "Every X is also Y pounds heavier on your wallet too".

$499 NOW on QVC such a great deal and comes with the new STAND

But still clean better than any other vacuum on the market.

Yes

Luckily, manufacturer's provide the 30 day money back guarantee for exactly this kind of purchase questioning, so take advantage. You can always go back to something else if you don't like what you try.

Yeah; that's the new V11 standard now, as illustrated on their website. Much like the DC35 from many years ago.

Let's just skip to the end of a boring conversation we've had several times before on loop. Probably not suited for loop pile carpets and owners that are precious about 'fuzzing', so the likely tiny number of people who have them, globally, should look elsewhere. Oh dear, what a shame.

Vacuum Facts Likely tiny number? On what basis do make such a contention? Boring? If your carpet were not cut pile, and you didn’t know about this issue prior to purchasing such an expensive cleaner, how would you feel, Johnny? By all means, try your Dyson on a red loop pile rug (as I have with my V7) and tell me just how much red carpet fibre is extracted, mixed in with the grey dust. You should have mentioned the loop pile concern in your V11 review; it surprises me that didn’t. Dave

Lack of evidence to the contrary (you original said it was popular without supporting evidence), and simple deduction given the hugely wide range of carpets available and only one category is loop pile (confirmed on national carpet retail websites). If I didn't know about this issue before purchase, I'd feel like a total and utter idiot for failing to bother to research beforehand if it's such a big issue. Then I'd take advantage of the money back guarantee. But of course, it's a non-issue and you're literally the only person who talks about it, which says it all. It wasn't mentioned in the review because of the lack of genuinely convincing evidence that it's relevant and widely a concern. You're welcome to provide some. Boring topic. When I see convincing evidence as above, I'll comment again; until then all conversations about a loop pile issue will be literally ignored.

Vacuum Facts Read the manual. It’s in the V7’s, about unsuitable carpet types, as well as in the V10’s. Is it in the V11’s? We’ve been down this road before, and the question is: if YOUR carpet were loop pile, and you yourself knew prior to a considered purchase of a Dyson stick vacuum cleaner, would you have purchased the V10/11? As for loop pile carpet’s popularity, what evidence do YOU have that it is not popular when it is freely available for purchase at any carpet outlet? If loop pile were not popular, it would be hard to find. Checkmate, Johnny. www.godfreyhirst.com/au/carpet/carpet-explained/carpet-styles

Vacuum Facts www.thespruce.com/right-way-to-vacuum-your-carpet-2908791

I think it's a poor misstep by Dyson to pander to a mindless audience who thinks doubling everything is automatically better without considering things more carefully, and who apparently can't seem to grasp the bitesized cleaning approach over the tiring mega-clean chore they seem to be unable to develop beyond. Dyson have fundamentally undermined their entire argument about doing things right by kludging a double-battery double-pollution solution for capitalist gain, rather than solving it more elegantly with new technology. On the plus side, they're only supplying this to a US audience (and possibly limited other markets), and I also suspect this is just a temporary state of affairs as they continue to work on their new battery technology which will provide these benefits and more with a single-battery solution. The usual dodgy YT channels that don't seem to have a clue about anything other than the cosmetic, seem to have fallen for it hook, line, and sinker and drool over a removable battery rather than seeing the consequences of that. The rabid vacuum enthusiasts must also be recoiling back into their own toxic pool of bile to hear me criticise Dyson; it fundamentally undermines their entire stupid argument that I'm a Dyson fanboy. I'm not Pro Dyson; I'm just pro-tech and anti-idiocy.

Horses for courses; the Outsize has a dust container twice the size of the normal V11, and not practical due to weight to carry a double size accompanying battery. It’s designed for very large homes, so not really relevant for most.

I wouldn't mind actually, but who the hell has £1200 floating round... I don't :/ Outrageously priced and there's simply no excuse for that cost. Pure scam. But if a rich benefactor wants to buy me one, I'll happily assess its alleged virtues. I love how they don't provide ANY data at all on its performance or filtration quality etc. All the hallmarks of inferior tech scam right there.

@@VacuumFacts I totally agree. It's even more expensive where I live (Slovenia - about 1800 euros for the whole package). I've had a chance to test the new VK200 out at home for a day (a relative of mine sells them). It's a beautiful machine don't get me wrong and it does clean but thats when I started questioning it. The wet cleaning head (btw 600 euros on It's own) It's so messy and bulky it's a nightmare. Maybe if you have a really huge house with a lot of tiles this would be great, but not for small homes. Regarding the filtration the official Vorwerk site shows that the bag is so efficient that it filters like a HEPA exhaust filter, which I doubt. When I see a particle counter video on YT with a full bag I'll believe them. And the most disappointing fact is the hose. Really badly thought out. I think that the SEBO Felix as good as the Vorwerk if not better for 1/3 the price. I need a powerhead (a few carpets and I like to vacuum my mattress) so I'll be getting the V8 or V10 probably on black Friday when the prices drop, not in a hurry :)

Yes, that Sebo felix is another one that needs some facts exposing about it. Maybe one day...

@@VacuumFacts i just purchased one for £300. It's an amazing cleaner! There's one more available at this price if anyone is interested

A solid state battery will be a big improvement. I am loving my Vorwerk. You say they are inferior to Dyson but you have never used one. I can tell you they are absolutely fantastic! I'm so impressed with mine :)

Yes, there are only two cordless vacuums out there which are mains replacements; the V10 and the V11; so, if not one, then the other. Personally, I'd save up and get the next generation Q2 2020.

@@VacuumFacts Too bad there were most likely delays due to the current pandemic, but at least we got the outsize.

@@zoroz93games34 The outsize was a kludge to keep the 'top spot'; competitors were out-bragging on battery life because they were shipping 2 or even 3 batteries, telling a half truth. So Dyson, not having their solid state tech ready yet, were forced to ship with 2 batteries too, in a sloppy and stupid non-solution to keep bragging rights, beating the competition at its own game.

No. Is there a reason why I should? I'm not able to find a good reason after looking at the technology.

@@VacuumFacts its a cool looking thing. Some good reviews. Think it looks better than the V10-11 and seems to run longer.

@@johncolquhoun6416 Yet there's no formal test data and it's just a naff clone, really

But it looks good. Lol Is that not why people by apple stuff. Form over function. I'm still getting a v10 thanks to your fine reviewing. Thanks

Ha; god knows...but a turd in a hat is still a turd. Their tech is hugely behind.

You haven't watched the video. Short answer: yes. Auto + mode is an exceptional deep-cleaning mode. Maximum optimisation.

@@VacuumFacts I was watching it and wondering if its worth upgrading to for those of us that already have a V10. While the V11 unit is better the eco system around it hasn't caught up yet, most noticeably the lack of a DOK and Dyson US doesn't even list the soft roller as an optional tool.

@@Boodieman72 Unless you sell your V10 and pay the resultant upgrade price, the V11 is not worth upgrading if you're paying full price. The DOK I just don't think is that useful personally. I'd encourage wall-mounting. I suspect the soft roller's days are numbered, despite being a superb tool; the main head does it all now, really.

@@VacuumFacts The soft roller head is for larger items that would get snowplowed by the main head. They need to redesign the wall mount then. As you showed in your video there isn't enough space to have some of the tools mounted. I like the DOK because it keeps all the tools in one place and easily assessable, especially when you have all the tools Dyson offers for the unit.

The main head can remove particles just as large as the fluffy can handle, up to the limit of what should sensibly be vacuumed. It does not snowplough as shown in my videos. I'm genuinely struggling to see the value of the fluffy now and I haven't used it once since owning a V11. Pity because the fluffy is an amazingly well-designed tool.

I couldn't find another channel or website out there that did things properly. So as they say: if you want something doing right...

Glad you enjoyed it. As you rightly concluded, the facts and evidence presented in the video speaks for itself. If you spend time looking around though, you'll notice the propaganda, hatred, and naysaying that you felt constituted potential 'insecurity' on my part, and you'll realise it was nothing of the sort and there is genuine palpable hatred of the Dyson brand out there, purely because of their objective superiority. Every opportunity to believably, but misleadingly smear the technology is taken (and the rest of the videos on my channel debunk those myths and attempts to falsely harm the image of genuinely good technology). The tribalism out there in some enthusiast communities is really quite shocking. I do understand how simply echoing this could be interpreted as overdoing it. While I don't think I overdid it given how familiar and exposed to the hatred I am than most (a lot of the bile gets channelled directly to my videos in fact), I will reflect on how it might come across to others less familiar, and how I might present future reviews to avoid the risk of misinterpretation. Thanks for the feedback.

@@VacuumFacts You're welcome. And just to re-iterate, the insecurity comment was only an immediate perception not an accusation. I really liked that you addressed what seems like all the "issues" raised by other so-called reviews. I'm just saying that you didn't need to echo the name calling so much. The fact that you can credibly refute false observations with facts and clear demonstrations is more than enough to win people over. One of the reasons I avoided Dyson for so long was my own sense that the products looked and felt very cheap and tacky when you hold them and see them close up. I also see a lot a negative reviews about Dyson fans which I think are justified - mostly because Dyson themselves set false expectations about "room cooling" capabilities. Having said all that, and having watched your review, I feel that the plastic design and build is justified in the case of the cordless vacuums, and that Dyson fan performance is not a good proxy for cordless vacuum performance!

Performance testing shows it exceeds many mains cleaners. It has completely replaced my mains unit, and that was a high end product. Only two battery powered devices have achieved this; the V10 and the V11, and they are the only two which are marketed as mains replacements. There is plenty of evidence on YT of people cleaning large houses in a single go with the V11-not that smart housekeeping nowadays involves a weekly-chore whole-house mega clean in one go. Smarter use that this formfactor allows involves breaking it up into shorter, easier, bitsized sessions. This product has 'changed my life' when it comes to the annoying chore of vacuuming. It's true that it is fantastic for quick clean ups, but the rest of your opinion simlpy doesn't match the evidence.

True!!!

The guy in the video demonstrates a staggering lack of understanding of what's important in vacuum cleaners, or is deliberately trying to mislead; either way, not respectable. And of course, many out there just buy into it without thinking. Airflow measured *at the open hose* has no relationship to the cleaning performance at the head *through carpet*. Plenty of videos explaining the details and science of this on my channel for those who care to educate themselves. Anyone who thinks otherwise is simply too ignorant to be worth listening to and needs to increase their knowledge.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mqnwOvFNek4.html and ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WzkFvMLy-Eo.html

It is literally embarrassing that people make videos like the one you linked to in the original post. It shows a frightening ignorance of utterly basic science taught to every child in the developed world. And this guy either didn't understand it and has humiliated himself to the world, or did understand it and purposefully tried to deceive people like a corrupt scumbag. Either choice is attrociously insulting to viewers. Don't be fooled by this disgusting behaviour; there are more impressive and caring people out there who've gone to great lengths to expose this kind of verminous filth and help protect innocent viewers. Also look out for nasty pieces of work who try and defend the corrupt.

Vacuum Facts what are your thoughts about Miele vacuums?

Their bagged technology suffers from all the problems of bags ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ptN0kkOtGSM.html ), and while perform at least adequately, do not perform the best, as evidenced by their lack of claims to the contrary or industry standard test data. Their bagless technology is attrocious compared with industry leaders.

ha, there's not that much. It's a way to identify who stops at cosmetics instead of seeing past it to the more important facts. It's also an address to all the haters who wilfully spread propaganda and nonsense.

It is a premium after all and like you said “those Chinese once” are just USABLE barely to be honest in my opinion

​@@timothyonipad after I have made that comment, I learned Dyson has more affordable vacuums for other countries like the Dyson Micro or Slim. The $100 Chinese vacuum range are usable, only they don't have the power for large debris and less reliable build. Having said above, Dyson can still improve pricing on older and smaller models

People were badgering me to review the V11 (which I didn't buy initially-exactly because I had the V10). But I caved and interest got the better of me. So, I sold my V10 to a friend in the end and bought the V11 for a bit extra. Everyone was happy in the end (except the haters of course!).

I don't believe you, or I don't believe you're using it sensibly. That completely conflicts with my / sensible usage. Happy to receive full objective evidence of exact usage and exact reproduction of claimed failures for careful review. I suspect it'll never come though...

Vacuum Facts I don’t care if you believe me or not, I don’t need to prove anything to you & I’ve already sent the rubbish back for refund

@@michellepolito3863 o_0 ok thanks for sharing >.>

Vacuum Facts I’m not a hater of Dyson & I really wished it was okay for people with disabilities because it does pick up heaps of dirt. It’s not good for having to clean the cleaner so much. I watched heaps of reviews videos on RU-vid & was so excited about getting it. Not one video said much about the filter or blockages, just how to clean it not how in-depth I had to be st cleaning the whole machine. I did use the machine as directed emptied the dust collector before it got to the full level shook out as much as possible the debris around all areas. I was absolutely covered in dust by the end of using it for 30-40 minutes & cleaning it for over 1hr trying to get it working again, the only way was putting a new filter on it, & I really did do a good job of trying to get all the dust out if the filter it came with, eventually I got it working too. If I didn’t have disabilities then I’d most probably kept it, but still didn’t like the blockages so much & over time the amount of dust collected would’ve reduced but I just don’t have the ability to use it. I thought I’d just put this with the comments. Also sorry for how I wrote the first comment it wasn’t the greatest way of saying a comment 🍻 Dyson’s recommendation due to my disabilities was to get a refund as I couldn’t look after it the way it needs to be.

OK. In contrast, I've been using it for the better part of a year and the filter hardly has any dust on it. And you can see in my other videos just how much fine dust I've been picking up. The only way I know of to dirty the V11 filters is to either abuse the machine or fail to follow the simplest of instructions-namely empty the bin before the max fill line and don't turn the machine on when the bin is open (this is outlined in the manual). I've got other video evidence (coming) showing no performance loss even if you fail to wash the filter for several times longer than the manual recommends. As has been proven scientifically and held up in court, Dyson machines don't ever lose suction if you follow the instructions correctly. If your disabilities prevented you from looking after it the way it needs to be as you say, then it's good you got a refund. Given that Dyson machines are the easiest to use and have less maintenance than any other when used correctly, I know of no other machine that will be less difficult to use correctly. Every other machine has a bag or filter which acts as the primary dust separator and gets blocked and dirty much more quickly.

I had Dyson v11 absolute, i am from India and it doesn't fit my need so i returned it!

It's essentially been incorporated into the review; I needed footage to fill the parts when I'm talking about something where a static image would have been boring, so I recorded a house clean and stuffed it in those sections. I used all the footage too. The only long clean I did with the V10 was when I used Zorb.

@@VacuumFacts Ah, thank you. I was thinking of the office clean where you compared the ghastly Henry to the V10. Thanks again for a wonderful channel. Incidentally, thanks to your video and advice, I started to use my V11 today set to Auto with the torque head set to +. Incredible suction!

ha nice. I'm actually finding auto+ to be really arm-tiring. I actually think auto-arrow might be default :/ But auto+ is crazy good for the power it uses relative to boost. Not heard anyone lie yet and say you can only deep-clean with boost and "only get 6 minutes, so cordless are shit".

Vacuum Facts I agree that the Auto + is a bit of a push compared to Auto Arrow but the suction is so good. Nice to have the options. Oh bugger the people who mention the Boost mode being 6 minutes long, I will seldom use it anyway. So happy with this cleaner and I’m now looking forward to the V12, 13 and 14. Know anyone who wants a kidney? It’s practically showroom new.

ha How long have you had a V11?

I'd hope you realise by looking more carefully at all the comments that I'm quite friendly, helpful, and cordial to those who don't comment in a hostile or unfriendly way, or make misleading or outright false claims to the detriment of others (that doesn't mean you have to agree with my opinions). Civil comments are treated civily; trash comments are taken to the bin, and if some people are sensitive to that, then too bad; it's a public forum.

Vacuum Facts - Yeah you’re just proving my point hun.

Vacuum Facts - It’s not up to you how you come across to people... it’s up to them.

If providing a clear answer is misconstrude as 'condescending', then you're right; how people react tells you more about them and their hypersensitivites. I'd recommend skipping to 5:45 in this video to see the kind of comments I'm subjected to before passing final judgement. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QKxqRYil9kg.html

I too agree with you kimberly. Somehow i find out this guy have some ego over his purchase of dyson product, become over protective to defend his investment on this pricey device that is so advance just for the sake to suck dirts and thats all. He never tried other brands that can perform 'almost' equal to V11 and sell lesser than half the price. He need expert evidence (haha) in order to justify battery issues while did not believe in any manufacturing defects, and still Dyson provide warranty for what? .. i do knew Dyson is good, but I do notice as well this guy talking trash and bragging his v11 purchase in the comments, rejecting other ideas im sarcasm... make me see this guys as uncivilized people that do not know how to talk nice to others. I saw, and many saw it too..

Maybe, but that might have other effects on the long term stability of the holder fix onto the wall. I keep the tool nearer where it's used anyway now, which is better.

Solid point, I have not had any issues yet as it is a pvc shim sheet cut to fit exactly behind the dock itself along with slightly longer screws as to not throw off the proper screw depth. Thank you for the awsome in depth video review!

hmm, might be worth a try :)

Dyson abandoned the electric vehicle because it could not be commercialised profitably (like their washing machine) in the end, not because it wasn't a good idea or the product wasn't good. Their batteries however are a different matter entirely; they are a component, not a product, and, like their industry-leading power-dense micro-motors, have wide application potential in many product lines. Competitors are still about 10 years behind Dyson in power dense small motors, which is really embarrassing for the tech industry. Solid state batteries will take off big and completely supersede Li-ion in the next 5 years as they mature. I suspect Dyson will get to commericalisation first, but many other big name companies are hot on their heels and investing big, and will follow possibly this year. It's a major technology that is about 20 years behind due to neglect of support for academic research back when Li-ion was completed. Serves the short-sighted profiteering industry fiscally-conservative suits right, yet the rest of us lose out. Dyson bought the academic spin out companies from which the technology derived. Following on from solid state technology will be the other competing chemistries which are vastly superior still. Dyson apparently has other competing technologies in-house being developed. 20 years behind, but battery tech is finally undergoing its renaissance.

@@VacuumFacts Global warming has something to do with the renaissance as we need cleaner energy. There may be electric planes in the future believe it or not. You would need quite a few Duracell batteries for that wouldn't you 😂

@@2711marcus Yes I'm aware of the future of travel and the associated technologies. And yes, greener technology has been championed by the best companies out there for a while now, despite hostility towards it; to wit: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qJBvuQM7ZK8.html Note their reference to vacuum bags

I've heard of a statistically insignificant number of people, who turn out to be screwdriver warriors and Dyson-brand haters, who've had possibly self-inflicted problems with their head. There's no evidence of how it was caused or that it can be reproduced. This was effectively covered in the video; have you seen it? The cost is likely a premium surcharge to pay for the effort of producing such a top-end product. Unless that's what you meant. Again, this was discussed in the video. :)

Vacuum Facts The channel I saw the video of the damaged head was Beko1978. I do feel like cordless will be the future for the home. I can image there will be more copies and people will accept the lesser cleaning performance. I think corded vacuums will still be used commercially. I do like the v11 actually but the only thing I would worry about is the battery maintaining a good charge. I’m certain the rest of the cleaner will last many years.

There's no need to worry about the battery. No one has ever shown, in a formal, trustworthy, and reproducible way, that the battery on Dyson cordless lose their charge. Some haters vaguely claim they have, but no good evidence that's convincing. Testing shows they lose about 80% of their max original charge after about 15 years relative to competitors' after only 5 years (assuming used responsibly with the trigger and not max mode all the time). The V11 warns you if you use max mode all the time that it damages battery health. And even if you win the bad-luck lottery and the battery dies, at worst, it's £50 for a new one.

Vacuum Facts It’s nice to hear problems with batteries have been ironed out. Also thanks for making these videos.

Oooh I like the term screwdriver warrior! Possibly not in the way it came across though... Are you suggesting I broke my head on purpose? Because I can assure you I did not. New head is fine though, hasn't broken yet

Yes, hatred of Dyson products tends to resolve down to petty tribalism by those who value myths over facts. The truly fundamentalist wouldn't change their mind even when you show them the objective empirical evidence. They're beyond help. It's the thinkers, that are smart enough to actually fairly listen and reflect, who I do my channel for.

@@VacuumFacts I agree with you all the way and thanks for what you do

@@Bassmunchkin1 I have been buying Dyson vacuums for 20 years. My first Dyson was the De Stijl cylinder (1998 I think), then I moved on to the Animal cylinder, way up to the cinetic upright, the Small Ball upright and the Light Ball and V10 and recent V11. I still have the very handy V6. I normally sell the old models towards the new model. Each new Dyson vacuum that is released has better technology than the last and improvements that I really like. I bought the Light Ball upright last year (or was it 2017? I forget) and I still think it is a wonderful cleaner. However, when I use it now, I realise that I want to put it away and use my new V11. No other type of vacuum is ever required now. The convenience, weight, cleaning power and all-round bloody brilliant V11 made me realise I do not need to lug anything heavier around. Great for my back. If something better hit the market from another manufacturer, I would buy it if I liked it. As Vacuum Facts says, Dyson are 10 years in front of any competitor and so I cannot see myself changing to any other company soon. Dyson are simply the best out there.

I really like mine, despite my reputation in such matters. But that doesn't count for anything!

Hi@@nespressoman I had a refurbished Henry corded model arrive yesterday as I'm doing quite a bit of house refurbishment and respect to Dyson, they do say my V8 is only for general house cleaning, not plaster and brick dust, so felt it best to use the correct tool for the job. I still scooped up as much dust as possible and only used Henry for literally the dust left behind, including the stairs, and lifting it, balancing it whilst vacuuming was a struggling task for my heart failure. I've lifted my V8 out of its docking station this morning to vacuum the side and the floor and WOW, the weight is a feather, the suction is as knew, the sound is so quiet and the air coming out of the Hepa filter smells so fresh. So Henrys suction for building work is number one for that type of job, but my Dyson V8 will stay number 1 for my home vacuuming, as the positive reasons far out weigh the negative, even though I've used the V8 a few times, for plaster dust pick up and stripped it down and washed the cyclone and motor housing completely afterwards. I do admit that Dyson request that we don't vacuum plaster and feel that it's designed purely for the home cleaning tasks. After all, you might take a dumper truck through a water logged dirty building site, but a Rolls Royce car... you'd keep to the road wouldn't you.

And given how poor the Shark cleaners perform relative to the Dyson cleaners, that really does say a lot about the Kirby cleaners...

I am aware of that organisation, along with many other similar ones. Consumer reports are glorified cowboys. Their 'testing' isn't replete nor to international industry standards-universally accepted as the golden comparative metric by all manufacturers and the courts. Plus, they're behind a paywall and base conclusions about objective matters on subjectivity (such as opt-in user opinions) and show evidence of bias. Many similar organisations draw conclusions on factual matters that conflict with empirical evidence. They are not respectable or credible. Plenty of objective evidence and good science-based explanations on my channel for matters associated with the vacuum cleaner product class.

Watching some of the youtube videos some reviewers overfill the bin and some teach how to unblock blockages, The V10 and 11 are modular design so as time goes on one can order any part themselves and easily swop it.

It was a lot of hard work and I'm supposed to be doing other more important things... :) Yes, the V11 is vastly superior and has much better performance than the UK V10.

@@VacuumFacts I looked at the v11 and compared it to the head on my animal and they're the same but on the v 10 motorhead ( direct drive like the UK head was) the bristles are stiffer which helps with pick up that's where they're getting the better agitation they was speaking of. I see no difference and hear of not much difference of the us v10 and v11 cleaning wise. So.. I cant get the v11. Besides the issues with the brishroll are something I'm keeping an eye on. Amazon reviews and ibasiac and some kobe #### channel have the issue also. So idk. I wouldn't care though I'd get it but cleaning wise I cant see a difference jsut the direct drive and torque head difference which my animal has the torque head so idk why I would upgrade to the v11

Btw I have never been so excited to watch a 30 min video lol good presentation I jsut wish there could be a comparison of v10 vs v11 ( not direct drive compared to torque head) that's the best way

Yeah I had to sell the V10 to get the V11 so wasn't possible unfortunately. My data for the V10 isn't quite the apples-to-apples comparison with the V11 either, because there are subtle differences in testing which I've no real control over (hence why formal industry testing is better which do everything ultra-precisely). More than the head changes alone give rise to improvements in performance; the increase in suction pressure in auto mode on carpet play a major factor. I couldn't say what the differences are between the US V10 head and the V11 head. Vac Wars suggests improvement between the two machines, but his testing contains sloppy flaws and not as trustworthy as it looks at anything beyond a qualitative level. Yeah the video took me ages.

@@VacuumFacts as far as vacuum wars his videos on the v10 has the same sand pick up and airflow as the v11 as new now that he has a neglected v10 the airflow and sand pick up have dropped go watch his beginning videos from when he first got the v10 and u will see it I made a comment on his video of the v11 stating just that. New to new there wasnt much of a difference except suction going through the roof.. but the cut off may interfear with that so I'm not sure

Both are excellent. 11 is better than 10 but costs more. Other than that, the decision is yours.

@@VacuumFacts thank you! have you got to test roidmi f8?

Maybe one day, but it's clearly not supposed to be in the same league as the V11, and it's probably inferior to the V8. It is on paper, at least.

@@VacuumFacts indeed the cards say that it exceeds the v8 reaching almost the level of the v10

@@lucas_8383 Yeah, but I've not seen any convincing evidence of that. Big claims are easy to make, but only the best unequivocally evidence them.

Maybe, but then how do you explain why so many manufacturers jumped on the bandwagon when Dyson's took off? Bagless wasn't a faze; Dyson showed how awesome they were and virtually everyone does it now. What about clear bins? Dyson did it, it was great, and now everyone does it. The reason why the competition are struggling with cordless is because highly advanced technology is needed to do it properly, and the competition are just so bad that they can't achieve it properly. Dyson has rocketed so far beyond them that it does look like they're sitting down doing nothing. Improvements to battery technology will likely accelerate (shortcut) some issues the competition are having, and maybe they'll develop new motors which can do the job, but Dyson are so far ahead now that it'll take some time. The EU regulations are a wonderful expose of bad technology, as I discussed in one video. To meet them, the weak manufacturers who got passable performance with brute force had to cut back and they became really bad performers, exposing their weak designs. Interestingly, updated regulations will be coming into effect in the future which properly account for battery pollution and the cordless form factor. So all these lousy double-battery polluting machines will be exposed there too.

Vacuum Facts I personally don’t think Dyson are ready to release their V10/11 as a mains replacement because from what I have seen on the specifications and from owning one. The V10/11 only gives you mains performance on high power, which won’t last much longer than 10 minutes? I think it needs to be better than that for a mains replacement, that said, mine rarely dies on me but I tend to use just the medium setting. I do agree that Dyson leads in its advancements and others copy to keep up with what consumers demand. That is the way for cordless anyway. I would recommend Dysons to someone asking for a cordless or bagless vacuum as in those areas they seem to do it best.

I think that's a misconception and there is evidence to show it. You actually get 'mains performance' (whatever that really means, given performance is so variable between cleaners) with the default mode. I showed against the mains Kirby that the V10 surface-cleaned to the same level and deep-cleaned better in mode 2. The V11 removes virtually all deeply engrained dirt in auto mode on the most difficult carpet type after a few passes. It likely exceeds many mains-cleaner performance. I hope to test this in future, actually. Max/boost mode is actually overkill which achieves a comparable level of result but faster. It's designed for spot-cleaning heavy messes and doesn't really give advantages for general cleaning when dirt concentrations are much lower. If I had the money and time, I'd look at more machines much sooner.

Not convinced I believe this given much of it is counter to evidence. Plenty of replacement batteries available.

@@VacuumFacts Not through Dyson. I want an original Dyson battery, not some chinese knock-off. They are not the same.

Thomas Bassett hey they do sell the v8 absolute battery your looking for it’s back in stock on the Dyson website. I just checked today. I heard from a friend receiving complimentary battery from them so maybe you can call again and speak with someone. They do sell out quickly though maybe you will get your hands on one.

A few things inaccurate about your post which you may wish to correct. I haven't blamed specific people and people can otherwise assume what they want without evidence. I don't know why anyone would deliberately damage it; who said they had? I haven't. Where've you got that from? Or have you simply bought into mindless propaganda being spun by rabid troublemakers instead of properly fact-checking? That would be silly. Secondly I've seen videos and based on the comments and claims within them, have conjectured alternative and perfectly reasonable possible causes. No one really knows or likely ever will; I've said as much. People are misinterpreting reasoned conjecture with factual claims, which is rather embarrassing, then trying to perniciously spin a false smear. All the hallmarks of a rabid enthusiast community. And not a single comment about anything discussed in the associated video, either, which says it all. I presume you bothered to fact-check the things I said which make it clear you're making incorrect assumptions about your original post. I've stated that all products have failures and the pinned post discusses how to distinguish random from systematic-the latter being misleadingly assumed without evidence.

@@VacuumFacts but ive asked you for some facts which you haven't provided yet. Pot kettle at the moment

@@VacuumFacts I would like to say calling a community of people that doesn't believe that Dyson cleaners are the best thing since sliced bread "Rabid" isn't exactly the best thing to do.

@@ollialbone3019 don't forget we still need the evidence of the abuse this 'popular' RU-vid whose head broke, which by process of elimination can only be one person. I see he has skirted round this by focusing on the other RU-vid who is not present to defend himself, unlike myself who is here and all ears for the evidence for this slander and slur! Should I paste my analysis and noted again incase Mr Facts has forgotten what he needs to find? You can hide behind edits but you can't hide behind real life

@@beko1987 you're so right mate!

It's faulty logic to suggest if someone praises a product made by company X, that they work for that company. Secondly, you claimed dyson tech is so complicated that it fails more than others. That is a factual statement on which there is evidence bearing. Can you provide strong evidence to support your claim, or was it just a subjective opinion misleadingly dressed up as fact? The latter wouldn't be very respectable. If you owned an earlier hand model that only 'lasted 5 months', then a) what on earth were you doing with it, and b) why didn't you claim on the 2 year warranty? I don't even believe you, and that's a much better opinion than what I'd have to think if you did actually break it given how durable and reliable they actually are... Not a good image you've painted of yourself with a 3 sentence comment o_o

Ha. I think the V11 is fantastic because the evidence shows it to be; it's as simple as that. My subjective opinion is therefore informed on objective grounds. Not convinced it's reasonable to cite discounts, which are transient and not always available to all, as evidence of the lesser cost of one machine over another. The RRP is the only fair and comparable metric, and the RRP of the Shark shown is comparable to top Dyson models. I'm not baiting anyone; everything I said is true :)