E-Flite UMX Waco BNF Basic with AS3X and SAFE Select - Model AV8R Announcement And Review 

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Thanks Jon! You know I will...

Lol, done that Al!

I hear you man. There are many factors that cause this to happen. One thing for sure...if a plane/heli is selling well, and the factory in China that makes it stays in business, it ain't going anywhere anytime soon. They don't just discontinue stuff to discontinue it. Its simply business. Warehouse space is a precious commodity, and you can't have product taking up space that collects dust. The other issue is that these factories are so busy that many won't make parts for an airplane that isn't currently in production, and the ONLY reason a plane isn't currently in production would be because it doesn't sell well. If it sells well, it stays in production. If it doesn't, they try something new, and its not like they don't try to promote the bad sellers into selling well with special offers, sales, etc. first...they do. Its way easier to just rock on with a good seller than to spend two years designing and developing something else. That said, there are many planes on the HH website that have been in production for years, and many that were in production for years before they fizzled out. I've done this for a while...if I like a plane, I just get the spares I know I might need, Props, prop adapters, maybe a gear set. The other thing to remember is that parts are often available even if it isn't from the original company. I just bought a NIB RX/ESC board for a UMX Gee Bee and got her back in the air. I just searched the part # and a couple of places had them. That plane has been discontinued for 6 or 7 years. If you're willing to do a little modeling...you can keep anything flying. Also...the OG Waco was in production for several years. I suspect the new ones will be too and with the upgrades...hopefully much longer.

Can I please get the whip it back? PLEASE????

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Ryan. They are both nice. Glad to see HH decision to release both versions. 👍👍

Thanks GB! Love them!

Thanks man! I don't trust folks that don't like SRV...lol.

Thanks Jeff! It is a great UMX!

Your videos inspired me to buy the original and my son and I have had some great times with it so thanks for that. Got 2 OGs now but going to add the yellow one for sure.

@@jjs3287 That is very humbling. I am glad you and your son were able to make memories together, sharing the pure joy of RC flight! Blue skies, happy landings my friend!

Purchased one just before you released your videos on it, seen 'em all ;). I've thoroughly enjoyed it for years now. Can't decide, might get both, red first!! 👍🖖

@@airhammer6203 Yeah buddy 😁👍😎!!

Thanks brother John! I know you'll love it!

The OG Waco was one of the all time greats. This needed to happen! I think a ton of us are glad it did!

Thanks Frank! Yep, Yellow is mello! Lol

Yes, got to be. I used to have the Dynam in yellow and it was a stunning looking plane.

​@@jjs3287 I still would like to get that biplane. I hope a new larger one gets released from some manufacturer

Awesome Gina! I thought about you when I flew them!

@@airhammer6203 I bought my Dynam Waco after a 10 year break from flying so was too rusty to fly it. Sadly I let it go after it crashed on maiden. They do come up for sale from time to time used but everyone keeps telling me to get the more expensive FMS Pitts.

Thank you Noel! Man these are so pretty! How small of a camera do you have??

Ohhh it would carry a 17g camera no worries Adam

Thanks brother Will! I agree, pretty planes.

It really is Joel. Prettiest UMX ever in my opinion. You will LOVE it!

Yeah man we all have, the Waco needed a re-do. Such a great plane, and I'm with you ...it and the Pitts are 1 and 2 all time.

Thanks Mike!

Get one Ian, you wont be disappointed!

Thank you Ian!

Thanks man!

Thanks! 👍

Like Deion Sanders. Baseball, or Football? Both!

Enjoy it!

Thanks! 👍

Hey Rick! Happy New Year to you and yours as well man. Thanks so much for the kind words! I am deeply humbled. Sims are great, and the repairs are cheap! Lol. When I started learning 3D I was on one all the time. Enjoy the biplanes on RF!

Dude...I've been having fun teasing with the OG Waco shorts! Lol. Awesome upgrade.

Thanks man! I wish they'd do a Stearman like this on 3s...

Thanks man! Yep...yellow one is a beaut!

Lol! If momma ain't happy...no one is!

Thanks man...you too!

Thanks man! It was a beautiful morning and a beautiful plane!

Thanks very much! We appreciate the kind words. You'll enjoy it. They really have some grunt on 3s. Very glad they updated this one!

Thanks! You'll enjoy it. One of the great all time UMX planes.

Thanks so much Tobias! We try my friend! We can't make a link for the EU warehouse, but thats alright... you get you one and have fun with it!

They are a lot of fun in a small package.

Awesome man, you'll love it!

Timber bipe would be cool/interesting. :)

Awesome man! Hmm, Timber Bipe...that might be fun!

Sweet. You'll enjoy it. Great flyer!

Thanks Logan!

Me too!

Thank you! Cheers!

It is! Purdy too...

Brother Mark! Thank you, we appreciate you. I tell you what bro...you make it to SEFF next year and I'll do better than coffee.

Lol! I totally understand Tony! Hide the small ones...lol

Isn't that the truth? They are releasing a UMX Conscendo next. My wife is already unhappy, that plane is going to REALLY set her off. I HAVE to get it.

Thanks David! Yes sir, a big un' would be sweet!

It does! If the grass is short it may be alright, if not you can hand launch it.

Thanks Jude!

Thanks very much William. I'm with you. I like all kinds of flying and all kinds of planes. We are here for everyone in the hobby ...and we try to keep in mind everyone has different tastes. We actually get crap from a few because we DON'T roast planes. lol. We figure "objective review" means judge the plane based on what it was intended for and what was promised of it. Sounds fair to all involved to me. The truth is most planes nowadays either deliver just that or get so dang close it isn't worth complaining about. And yet...so many do. Lol.

Me too!

Thanks man! It is a fun one!

Thanks very much for the kind words Jim! So a couple of things just FYI... The Waco's will be shipping just before Thanksgiving or just after (depending on how quickly they can get them checked in/shipped out). You can always cancel a pre-order. The F-14 debacle was because of covid. The factory in China shut down. Nothing HH could do about that. They hated it too! Lol. Hope this eases your mind on pre-orders. Happy flying!

Hey Jay, thanks very much man. Heidi is great on that camera! I had to think about that for a minute... the Durafly Gloster Gladiator is a great flyer and it is in the size range you asked about. We have a vid on it if you want to check it out. I just checked and HK has it in stock in the US warehouse.

Absolutely, that is what we did at the soccer field.

@@ModelAV8RChannel That´s great. Thank you =)

I don’t think it’s comparable to the aerobatics of the Umx Pitts. Seems more of a scale flyer with good power.

Thanks! They are both very powerful on 3s. They are similar in aerobatic capability, but the Pitts has the edge a bit. Lets face it man, none of us NEED another plane period, but we sure as heck want em'! Lol. Its a fun ride...sure is pretty.

Every RC aircraft is fly by wire, and the millisecond the gyro adds doesn't change much if it is set up right. Gyros can mask a lot of feel and piloting requirements, but only if the gains and priority are set incorrectly (too high). I can feel the difference, and you can see it if you pay attention. The white one will get slower. It's subtle, but there.

@@ModelAV8RChannel I'm glad you covered the difference. I really like the in close, slow flying and was excited to see the light weight option.

Oh yeah!

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They both have 1900kv motors, but with different pole counts, and different props. The Pitts is louder, but also more powerful. Both have plenty of punch, and both knife edge very well.

Jon thank you for going through our link. We appreciate the support. They actually already released and the first shipments sold out. They will definitely be getting more in.

Both very stable. Not enough difference to make a difference. I'd get the one you think looks better.

Struts on the Waco are plastic and never had an issue breaking that I know of...unless you really smack it. Of course, then it ain't the planes fault. Lol.

The pink one. Always the pink one.

@@ModelAV8RChannel Thanks! I’ll pick that one up

Horizon said either just before or right after Thanksgiving in the RCG forum.

@@ModelAV8RChannel Thanks for the info! I have to say, you are more knowledgeable about RC and a better pilot that most of your fellow RU-vidrs. 😎👍

Thanks for the kind words Paul!

Thanks for the kind words Paul!

Here is a video of a guy that sells them and works for the Waah-Kow factory. Pretty sure he knows how to pronounce it. So do I. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fYseIJGjG7I.html

I reckon Earl. I dunno though, thats kinda like comparing a 426 Hemi Challenger to a Boss 429 Mustang. There similar, but are they? Lol.

Oh....OK. I'll order the yellow after I get back from a trip out west.

Thanks man! I'll fix that right now...

And fixed! Thanks for pointing that out!

Not according to the guy from the Waco Aircraft company. It ain't pronounced like the town in Texas. If you're gonna correct people... Watch this... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fYseIJGjG7I.html

spent a good share of my life near Waco Nebraska. I know people that flew Wacos. first time ive ever heard wockoh.

I'm sure if you're talking airplanes, either way you say it they'll know what you mean. Awesome airplanes. Great they still make old school stuff like that.