Adam this edf looks great if all goes well in the middle of OCt you know I am coming back to edf great flying and review Heidi great Video Recording 👍👍👍👍😊😊😊😊
Very cool Adam! It is cool that they added lights onto the smallest one and the flight modes is a great way to train folks on how to get the most out of flaps 👊🏻💥👊🏻
@ModelAV8RChannel Yes, Sir! There is no stock in Aus for about 4 more weeks, so I'll have to wait 😄 Love the 90mm- put a Kingtech K-45 in mine, E-Flite certainly knocked these evolution offerings outta the park I'm sure everyone will enjoy flying them indeed! Cheers
I like all youtuber modelers but your channel has a great format, you can see that you have a lot of experience and talent in telling about it. When is bush flying again?
Fine demo flying. Seeing how sleek and fast looking the Viper is - doing some of the flipity do dah (tumble) type maneuvers isn't the first thing that comes to mind. But I can tell you had a good time with it all.
Lights are a nice upgrade. Spec it for 6S power and add retracts. Quite a few 64mm jets are hitting the marked spec'd for 6S power and have retracts. The Horizon Hobby faithful will enjoy this airplane but keep in other manufacturers are spec'ing their 64mm aircraft with things eFlite has yet to introduce (FlyFans 64mm L-39 comes to mind for comparison).
You know I flew one of those L-39s and it flew well, but felt heavy (guy was using a 3000 pack). I think when you get to that feature level, just make it a 70mm and use batteries many already have...they can take more common 3200 and 4000 6s and the slightly larger size handles the extras better . The whole point of airplanes in this category (64mm) is simplicity and being able to use common 2200 to 2600 4s packs that many already have. That flyfans is a good price...until you add RX as good as this Viper comes with and then buy batteries for it as most folks don't have 1800 to 2200 6s packs, which it flies best with from what I read about it. Lighter that way. The truth is...there are just a few 64mm 6s single engine jets available, but there are dozens of 4s 64mm out there...which is why most already have batteries for them.
They still charge $250 for the F-15 bank and yank with no smart tech, flaps, lights... This is the first time I've actually been excited for a release. This will be my new main grab and go jet!
It's unfortunate that E-Flite missed the mark making this a 4S jet instead of a 6S jet.. The HobbyKing 64mm Viper only really has 2 things going for it, Fully Painted BRIGHT colors and the 6S power system, though a majority of people that purchased the 1st run can't get the reverse thrust to work. But otherwise the E-Flight 64mm Viper is far superior in every way. and their Servo's are Many times superior to HobbyKing's.
@@FlightLogProductions but the best 64mm Edf, the Freewing 2500kv costs around 40$ in offer. The paint would be much important for me as I don´t like unpainted foam :/, it looks so cheap :P The Hobbyking had/has indeed a very nice finish! I was amazed but sold it anyway since I have enough planes with retracts now....
Hell yeah! Give it the beans! Been waiting for this review since HH released their video on YT at 9:30 this morning. I'd say they knocked it out of the park with this bird. On packs I have an abundance of, it's gonna be hard for me to not spend a few nights in the dog house for this one. Not that it's over priced at all. Just the last 4 planes I bought this summer were each " the last plane I'll need until at least Christmas"... 😊 Awesome job, Heidi! Great, informative and demonstrative review, per usual, Adam. PS- love the timely "pops" during the flights. If only the Viper had rocket pods 👍
Hey Al! Thanks man Heidi and I appreciate the kind words brother! I totally understand man. This one is a winner. Super feature packed...and the performance doesn't suffer as a result. Don't always get both. Yeah somebody was enjoying some target practice.
Good stuff AV8R, but all things considered, seeing how the $ is a bit high for what it is, I'd rather spend $40 more to purchase the full function 70mm F-22 from MRC. Most of us have a gyro rx laying around that still work just fine. AirHammer out!!
@@ModelAV8RChannel I use the DX8G2 w/forward programming. Like you, I'm unsure if it's compatible. I'll check, but probably not. Edit: I'm frugal and I've always wanted a F-22.
F-22's are awesome too man! Just FYI, you can still bind to and fly a BNF model with AS3X+ with a G2DX8. You may not be able to go in forward programming and make adjustments to it, but the factory AS3X+ settings will be fine for most pilots.
Beautiful model! Well explained-Flown-Filmed. Love my original Viper. Glad to see the Oleo’s as on the Tomahawk. I recon it will come in @ A$499 when released here. Perfect little jet.🇦🇺🦘🪃⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Wow. The features are amazing for a 64mm. Alot of people are crying about the price before they see a great review like you give. That's why I always wait to pull the trigger until I see your videos. This is my price point for sure. Kinda like buying steaks these days. I'm not paying 14 dollars a pound for steaks or 500 dollars for a piece of foam. This is a great plane all the features we want. Retracts everyone says would just raise the price to 350. Horizons technology is getting so good that pretty soon we are going to forget how to program a reciever lol. I guess that's s good thing. Thanks adam. Like to see some bush flying one day.
Thanks very much Jay! We appreciate the kind words. It really is "Top of the class" as they say. Features are very nice, but if it is at the cost of performance they aren't worth it...the Viper 64 has both, and that really impresses me. I have flown a couple of 64's that can perform with it speed/climb wise, but none this feature packed...and it out performs most 64's. We do need to do another bush flying vid...got to find some good places. Losing our old field really hurt us in that regard. It was perfect for it.
I heard your comments. I happen to have an ix12 with the latest firmware BEFORE this last update. Am I NOT going to be able to update the tx to as3x+ and if not could I still BNF with this plane?
You can still fly a BNF with AS3X+ with an iX12...you'll just be stuck with the AS3X+ settings for the model that are programmed in at the factory...however those settings are usually very good for most pilots. It is my understanding that you cannot update the iX12 with the expansion update or take advantage of the SMART TX file with the iX12.
I have the dx6e transmitter and uploaded the as3x+ onto my Ar630. Turns out the dx6e is not capable of as3x+. They are incompatible. I had to send my Ar630 back to Horizon to have the software reflashed back a version.
Good to know thank you. Might be worth an upgrade...the NX7e+ is the same price the NX7E was, but now has 14 channels and voice capability...not to mention all the perks of AS3X+ and SMART TX files. Best deal going on a transmitter if you ask me.
If I get this BNF version, can I bind my NX6 without the AX3S+ transmitter update on it? If not, and I go ahead and update my NX6 with the AX3S+ update, do I then have to up date all the models (approx 20) in my NX6 to AX3S+?
Yes, you can bind your NX6 to the Viper and take advantage of AS3X+ without the update. However, it is well worth doing the update. It will turn your NX6 into a 14 channel TX and you'll be able to load SMART TX files into your transmitter from the RX in BNF AS3X+ planes. You do not have to update all your RX's. You will still be able to fly and tune the OG AS3X. Once you try AS3X+ though...you'll be updating some of them I'd bet.
Wow, this small one has the same edf as FMSs 64 but 70A esc. Why should this push more than 45A? Just because of the airframe? But nice to have telemetry 👍🏼. It should take easily a 5S pack for a bit extra punch. I have flown a time that motor with 5S 👌🏼
The Avian ESC has a different timing set, so you get a few more actual KV. The 70 amp is for more margin/headroom. Often in flight loads with an EDF go up. Horizon has made it clear they are committed to making sure you get great performance with power systems that can handle abuse even in the worst WX conditions. You won't overheat this one even in July in Georgia with 100% humidity, lol.
@@ModelAV8RChannel Hi Adam, thanks for your answer :) I did not think about timing and maybe Pwm. That may improve the power output and with a bigger ESC there’s more safety on the escalator side. Motor wise it will be OK too as I tested it with 5S no problem :) 6S went good just a few flights 🤣. Happy flights from south east Bavaria 🇩🇪 🇨🇱
