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E0S1 Blade NEGATIVE CYCLE | MoC 12 | Honkai Star Rail 

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In all seriousness, don't take what I say too seriously. At the end of the day, we all love our Blade's just as much as we do seeing our friends losing the 50/50 to Yanqing.

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@jacoblee4709
@jacoblee4709 4 дня назад
Honestly the problem isn't that Blade is backloaded, it's that a) his numbers are too low b) using him as a sub-DPS is worse than using an amplifying support (yes, even with Jingliu) c) he needs a healer for both sustain and DPS (losing more HP = bigger Ults), and forgoing another support is a DPS loss Back when Yanqing (wind weak) was the MoC boss, I ran a 6 actions per cycle team using 8k 70/150, 4 pc Longevous + Salsotto, E0 S1 Blade with E0 S1 Sparkle, E2 S1 Bronya, and E1 Ruan Mei support. Pretty much the best hypercarry team you could ask for at the time. Blade couldn't even 0 cycle after landing all his Crits. Replacing Luocha for Bronya or RM changed the clear from 1 to 2 cycles. And yes, I used every single tech possible- snapshotting both Sparkle's and Bronya's buff during Blade's Ult, using Bronya's Ult buff during Blade's Skill turn to extend the buff duration. MoC is even tougher now, but Blade is still stuck at that same ceiling. Keep in mind that he becomes a very fragile character when played at his ceiling, because supports offer more damage for him than sustains. So the bonus of him being a tanky character doesn't even matter. Please buff his numbers Hoyo. I don't think even Jade will be enough to save him at this point if I'm being honest, because you're still replacing a support to use her.
@generalsaverngild
@generalsaverngild 4 дня назад
Truly the most truest of words. If only I had Silver Wolf, I could delete half the game.
@milkeewayy_5835
@milkeewayy_5835 5 дней назад
It genuinely sucks using blade in the current meta, coming from a blade main
@generalsaverngild
@generalsaverngild 4 дня назад
Maximum cope until our 5-star HP buffing unit comes out
@kooweijing9061
@kooweijing9061 4 дня назад
Patience is the key my friend. For now, I can only think about Jade + Blade + Bronya/Robin and Lynx/Huo Huo/Luo Cha. But there's still unrevealed Xian Zhou characters kit. I'm looking forward to the new 5* fire abundance character. It's been a while since we've seen another abundance character.
@generalsaverngild
@generalsaverngild 4 дня назад
@@kooweijing9061 At most it'll probably be a hybrid Abundance but that's what we expect due to the recent increase of hybrid characters.
@MihaiCornean
@MihaiCornean 3 дня назад
Jingliu has the same issue in this MOC. Brute forced argenti with 24 cycles left only while using both bronya and sparkle
@generalsaverngild
@generalsaverngild 3 дня назад
I was able to achieve 22 cycles with Jingliu, Bronya, Luocha & Tingyun. Maybe if I had Robin & Sparkle the cycle would be pushed up to 26. Though that's still relatively low since MoC does have 2 sides.
@oneandonlyvigil
@oneandonlyvigil 4 дня назад
bro i only use bladie with jingliu nowadays for moral support and copium
@generalsaverngild
@generalsaverngild 4 дня назад
True
@AzizHakberdiev
@AzizHakberdiev 2 дня назад
To brute force MoC we have SW, that makes enemy weak to what you need, but even SW is not enough for blade. Mihoyo must have been balancing him with a lot more triggers of talent in mind, but there are no supports that can buff him based on hp *loss* like fighting spirit in SU for example. Blade isnt the only one, godforsaken arlan could become usable too
@generalsaverngild
@generalsaverngild 2 дня назад
Hold up brute forcing is when you clear the content off element. Using Firefly/Boothill, you are still in fact clearing them on element. SW is not enough for Blade? I want to know if you own Silver Wolf so I can see where your statement comes from? Btw Mihoyo is now officially HoYoverse as of 2022. Jade is the new and upcoming Sub DPS. Her skill casts a buff on one ally, increasing their SPD by 30% and reduces HP by 2% every time the applied ally does an action. In fact, this is one of the only HP reducing units outside of Simulated Universe & Jingliu. I don't think there's anything changing Arlan's damage. He just doesn't have the kit to increase his own potential solely because he has no buffs other than DMG% inside his kit. E1/E2+ 5-Star Limited supports or go home. Sources used for this talk: Channel Name: MrPokke (Only Good in Pure Fiction? | Jade Early Access Review) Link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WiBYWDcHDl4.html Channel Name: velleity (Arlan 0-Cycles Yanqing - Memory of Chaos 12.1 v2.1) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MNRlLnBlFhc.html
@AzizHakberdiev
@AzizHakberdiev 2 дня назад
@@generalsaverngild enemies are 20% more resistant to elements they are not weak to, some of them have higher res against certain element as well. While boothil and firefly can apply their respective weaknesses to enemies, it only helps them to break, while SW additionally reduces 20% res towards implanted weakness, making it work exactly same as native weakness. Even though you have res pen of Ruan mei, it is not as much as if enemy was weak to wind. If bronya wasn't helpful, just give blade some speed and replace bronya with SW, you will see the difference Any team with SW can brute force in MoC, especially mono quantum. But blade is not because he isn't really cut out for that particular type of content to begin with. He is meant for scenarios where he absorbs damage and gets stacks. Once jade drops he will become S tier in pf, he was already in A tier there. Slightly worse than erudition because it is not 100% that enemies will hit blade, but Lynx can fix that too
@generalsaverngild
@generalsaverngild 2 дня назад
​@@AzizHakberdiev Okay so basically you're saying that 0% is the base for all on-element DPS right? While 20% is off-element? I think we've got different definitions of brute forcing. Mine's just the simple off-element concept. Yours is essentially "Math is out". If it's 0% or close to it, then it's "essentially" on-element. I'm not smart enough to figure out formulas but I'm not stupid to believe in simple concepts. I think yours is perfectly fine. If you think that math solves it then go ahead, I won't treat your words any differently. Using Ruan Mei here was for the buffs and not to prove that brute forcing is what you think it is. If I increase Blade's SPD then he'll lose his HP & CRIT stats. I don't own Silver Wolf but I know her strength because I used her before on another account. I'd like to see your exact numbers. If not, that's okay. I'm planning to pull on her second rerun or if not, get a unit that powercreeps her. Blade being able to brute force or not is the thing of the past. It's just funny to bring it up now since he's a DPS I like. I don't think Jade will ever make Blade good in MoC but surely in Pure Fiction she will. I'm not into Pure Fiction so I have nothing left to say. Lynx has the possibility to increase aggro but sometimes RNG gets the better of us.
@AzizHakberdiev
@AzizHakberdiev 2 дня назад
@@generalsaverngild I forgot to add that there's 10% all type res as long as enemy is not weakness broken. You are in fact dealing with 30% tougher enemies, because you are not breaking them at all. Having SW here can reduce enemy resistance for up to 40%. But you are still not killing trotters. It is not brute forcing anymore, it is simply having a massive unnecessary disadvantage
@generalsaverngild
@generalsaverngild 2 дня назад
@@AzizHakberdiev Thanks for telling me that. I have a better understanding of your view. So it means I'm hitting only 5% less total damage with Ruan Mei. Trotters are a different story. I'm sure it's not gonna work but it's hella funny to do this kind of run.
@thatkid5936
@thatkid5936 4 дня назад
blade was my first 5* I unlocked and I love him but i dont think even with the health boost supports he will become meta as they will also release another health based attacker which will do everything blade dose but better...
@generalsaverngild
@generalsaverngild 4 дня назад
I'm sure there's bound to be hesitation between newer CRIT HP DPS and the older ones. This happens all the time but I am sure that players will still use Blade for Wind weak enemies or "that boss" (Disciples of Sanctus Medicus: Shape Shifter | the one who likes throwing reviving fodder onto the field). Being "meta" and becoming "meta" are two different things. I believe that Blade does not have the capacity (damage ceiling) to become meta but he does have the potential to make a new meta. That being HP scaling DPS.
@kennethyoung7457
@kennethyoung7457 4 дня назад
Its actually insane how weak Blade is like 4 star only teams are clearing faster than Premium Blade teams. People saying any character can clear the content are misleading new players straight up.
@generalsaverngild
@generalsaverngild 4 дня назад
I have no clue what you're talking about when you mention "content". If you're talking about all endgame content (MoC, Pure Fiction, Apocalyptic Shadow), every character can in fact clear them. It's a question of how you clear that content. I'm sure there's a theoretical possibly that someone is clearing MoC with Blade (whether that be E0S0, or E6S5). I also have no lead to which person you are referring to when you mention that "People saying any character can clear the content are misleading new players". I'm sure it's just some way to express yourself and that's perfectly normal. I agree that there are some people who misinform others. But I do hope that their best intentions were meant to help others. Standing corrected even if your points had no valid direction has no shame. You mentioned that Blade's premium teams are being outpaced by 4-Star only teams correct? I stand perfectly firm on this. I do in fact know this myself. It's very valid to talk about premium teams especially surrounding the latest content. Blade has been suffering for multiple patches, even right after his release. I'm sure there's bound to be a HP support for Blade or future characters but until then, we must use the best of which we have. Those characters being Ruan Mei, Bronya, Sparkle, etc. Blade is probably one of the most interesting DPS to talk about and I hope players realize that powercreep will always exist. There will come a time when there is only a Wind weak enemy. By that time, I'm sure a new Wind DPS will come out. But until then, Blade is still a viable DPS and certainly the strongest Wind CRIT DPS we have outside of Dan Heng. Of course, Black Swan is an exception but that's when you have Kafka, or when you use future DoT units. Blade will stay as the strongest Wind DPS as of the latest patch.
@AGRYGVT
@AGRYGVT 3 дня назад
As a Blade main I'm really disappointed to see him in his current state 😔 200K may be unreachable for me... I'll dispatch you in 12 cycles
@dontdoitpls4237
@dontdoitpls4237 5 дней назад
its sad to see that blade exists as a character when u compare him to ff lol
@jacoblee4709
@jacoblee4709 4 дня назад
Yeah, the one plus is that Firefly needs her E1 to be on the same SP efficient economy as Blade. But once you get that E1? There's no reason to run Blade over Firefly, ever. The one use case he might have in Pure Fiction, well, even trash enemy HP is too high for Blade's followup attacks to one or even two shot them.
@generalsaverngild
@generalsaverngild 4 дня назад
Since Firefly is the newest DPS I felt it was right to compare him with the newest DPS unit. Always fun to talk about old vs. new
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