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E16 - Bruce Bochy Ejected After Umpire Ceja's Fair Ball Call, but Batter Didn't Run! (Tichenor EJ) 

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HP Umpire Todd Tichenor ejected Rangers manager Bruce Bochy for arguing 3B Umpire Nestor Ceja's fair ball call on a ball bounding past third base (a ball is fair if it is on or over fair territory as it passes a base). Batter Adolis García didn't really run out of the box and was thrown out easily. Report: www.closecallsports.com/2024/...
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@dougr188
@dougr188 Месяц назад
I kind of feel like Bochy just wanted the afternoon off.
@kevinvilmont6061
@kevinvilmont6061 Месяц назад
Pro move
@Traestaree
@Traestaree Месяц назад
there have been some curious hills managers are choosing to die on this season
@joeg5414
@joeg5414 Месяц назад
i think it's because they want something to argue about but it's getting harder to find reasons with replay
@drewsummers7288
@drewsummers7288 Месяц назад
The ball was fielded in fair territory. If Adolis Garcia would have ran to first, he’d beat the throw for sure.
@vw8886
@vw8886 Месяц назад
Foul but Garcia should have run it out.
@jamesmartin4518
@jamesmartin4518 Месяц назад
​@vw8886 How do you know it was foul? It doesn't matter where 3rd baseman touched the ball on a ground ball that has passed the base. We can't see where the ball is when it passes 3rd base since it was too high for the camera to pick it up. Therefore, we, as viewers, just can't say it was fair or foul with certainty. Now, if it had been a line drive, and 3rd baseman touched it where he did in the replay, then I would tend to agree with your foul call. In that scenario, any ball first touched in the air, before or after the base, is foul if touched over foul territory, no matter where the player is located.
@Phil007QOS
@Phil007QOS Месяц назад
I think the broadcasters were just grasping at straws just trying to come up with any possible reason Bochy could be arguing. They obviously had nothing. Was no reason for Bochy to be arguing that.
@joelwisecup3306
@joelwisecup3306 Месяц назад
From little league up until HS ball, every coach I had would tell us run every single time you make contact. There's zero excuse for this type of outcome. If the ball winds up being foul in the end, the umpires will kindly let you know
@MikeHart72
@MikeHart72 Месяц назад
I used to bench players for not hustling, didn’t matter if you were the best or worst on the team. If you didn’t hustle you sat on the bench.
@stevehamman4465
@stevehamman4465 Месяц назад
​@@MikeHart72, this sends a message to the hole team ! First kids benched at 9yrs old for not warming up and goofing off , where me and my brothers kids. We were the coaches! Dang did that send a message, not only to the players, but the parents. You could see the whispering in the bleachers!😅 Oh,, best part was watching our wife's coming over to ask what the heck was going on!!😅😅 Dang that was 30yrs ago,,, enjoy them while you can!!
@stevehamman4465
@stevehamman4465 Месяц назад
Yep,,, you put your head down and dig it out, I dont care if it's to the first base . Our players knew if they didn't run it out they would sit! Some would run it out on one off the out of play fence. 😂 They would say , like they were taught, I ain't got time to watch the ball coach!
@MikeHart72
@MikeHart72 Месяц назад
@@stevehamman4465 I coached for many years, both recreational and competitive. The one thing asked for was your best effort, especially in the recreational league. Running the bases for example. If someone was jogging, they heard from me. If they jogged again they were benched. I would make it an example for life. No matter what you do always try your best. Coincidentally we always had teams that did well because every player gave full effort. We didn’t win every game but the team who beat us definitely had to earn it.
@milliesboy666
@milliesboy666 Месяц назад
He had to ask his agent first
@bobbrown6430
@bobbrown6430 Месяц назад
very nice presentation
@rj7411
@rj7411 Месяц назад
Send those announcers a rulebook
@teebob21
@teebob21 Месяц назад
"If we tucked $100 bills into the rulebooks we give to clubs for their managers and broadcasters, each year we'd get 95% of our money back at the end of the season." -- Jim Joyce
@fe1
@fe1 Месяц назад
@@teebob21 What a wise man Jim was
@kevinvilmont6061
@kevinvilmont6061 Месяц назад
How do we get them to read it?
@mattvanderveen4716
@mattvanderveen4716 Месяц назад
the funny thing is the rangers broadcast was saying they felt it was the right call, and that Bochy was just trying to defend Garcia. Interesting the detroit broadcast had a problem.
@adamwatkins1150
@adamwatkins1150 Месяц назад
The last 2 seconds of the video show that ball was fair. See, even when you do everything right as umpires, the coach just demands to hit the showers.
@jesuscage
@jesuscage Месяц назад
What it really comes down to is Garcia not running to first whether it was fair or foul, manager had nothing, good call blue
@totallykoolyeah
@totallykoolyeah Месяц назад
Hey, those are champions on the base paths there😊
@jamesmathison6877
@jamesmathison6877 Месяц назад
Announcers need to watch these videos!
@binder38us
@binder38us Месяц назад
Hometown announcers can be rather...ignorant.
@joeg5414
@joeg5414 Месяц назад
baseball is the worst about it for some reason. I guess because these guys spend so much time with the team. The get too attached and can't see through their bias
@binder38us
@binder38us Месяц назад
@@joeg5414 Yeah. I miss Vin Scully
@TheTapeandscissors
@TheTapeandscissors Месяц назад
This is Jason Benneti who just went to the Tigers broadcast from Chicago and long time Tigers guy Craig Monroe. Not Texas lol. RU-vid commenters can be... a lil uninformed.
@mrthingy9072
@mrthingy9072 Месяц назад
Always gets me when I see professional baseball players making mistakes that I've taught Little League players NOT to make.
@rc24caldwell19
@rc24caldwell19 Месяц назад
As a frustrated Jays' fan, I could not agree more....see Guerrero Jr, Vladimir as a frequent example of these
@matrixphijr
@matrixphijr Месяц назад
"Call was late. Typically on a play in front of the base like that..." Lol what? It can't be both.
@BobbySacamano
@BobbySacamano Месяц назад
Wait... 00:33 what was up with that baserunning path? It looks like the runner was attempting to impede the throw from 1st to 2nd, and this comes before the shortstop's potential obstruction.
@mse326
@mse326 Месяц назад
There is nothing wrong with running there. Until a tag attempt there is no basepath. Running in a spot that you think will be between the throw and the base is perfectly legal and in fact the correct way to run the bases
@bigpoppa1234
@bigpoppa1234 Месяц назад
It'd be a brave umpire who would call a runner simply running to the next base out for "intentionally" making contact with a throw ball or intentionally impeding the fielder.
@BobbySacamano
@BobbySacamano Месяц назад
​​​@@bigpoppa1234 it appears he changed his path to go over to the grass. For what reason is what I'm wondering.
@tw1nn319
@tw1nn319 Месяц назад
@@BobbySacamano to block the throw, had he been hit by the ball, interference could've been called on intentionally interfering with a throw
@BobbySacamano
@BobbySacamano Месяц назад
​@@mse326 You can run wherever you want to get to a base as long as there isn't a throw or tag attempt? I honestly wasn't aware of this.
@noellutsey5620
@noellutsey5620 Месяц назад
Broadcasters can be so dumb sometimes
@NatoBro
@NatoBro Месяц назад
Maybe the broadcasters need a rules and umpire mechanics refresher so they don't sound so stupid. Glad I missed that game today! lol Craig Monroe must of had one too many hot dogs at that point. 😉
@bigpoppa1234
@bigpoppa1234 Месяц назад
They'll just forget and go back to their broscience headcanon rules within a month.
@christalball93_
@christalball93_ Месяц назад
Or just don't have gender diversity quotas
@decline2state
@decline2state Месяц назад
1. "Must have" . . . 2. They seemed to know the rules a bit better than Bochy-unless Bochy was trying to give his batter an excuse for giving up on the play.
@wrhiv72
@wrhiv72 Месяц назад
respect my goat CMo
@NatoBro
@NatoBro 29 дней назад
@@wrhiv72 😂😂 I'm a Tigers fan. I love CMo, but in this case, he was a bit off. 😉
@_pocketsand
@_pocketsand Месяц назад
watched the game live. the broadcaster were bozos.
@nicholasuszko
@nicholasuszko Месяц назад
"Welcome to 'Whose call, is it anyway?' Where the rules are real, and the announcers' opinions just don't matter. That's right, just like a strike zone to Angel Hernandez, they just don't matter."
@milliesboy666
@milliesboy666 Месяц назад
It was the correct call all the way. Batter should have run.
@RobBot34
@RobBot34 Месяц назад
you said benetti was wrong but your explanation was exactly what he said. He was commenting on what bochy may have been saying and explained the plate ump usually has the call on balls like that in front of the bag.
@mse326
@mse326 Месяц назад
No that is not what she said. The plate umpire has the call for balls that are touched foul in front of the base, like on bunts. When the ball is going past the base, even if it is a ground ball, it is the base umps call on whether it went over the bag or not
@MwD676
@MwD676 Месяц назад
Ball very clearly beyond the bag. U3’s call. If we are talking about the ball passing the bag in fair or foul territory, we are talking about the base umpire’s call.
@DDAUmps
@DDAUmps Месяц назад
@@mse326 He* said.
@rayray4192
@rayray4192 Месяц назад
Bend Oregon was screwed by an umpire error. Hey Sparky, it wasn’t your call. Then Little League refused to get the call correct even with replay. Little League needs better umpires in the play offs.
@terryrose4804
@terryrose4804 Месяц назад
I like your videos. But I'm left confused. Was it or wasn't it? I'm sure the points matter.
@CloseCallSports
@CloseCallSports Месяц назад
That’s a primary reason fair/foul at 1B/3B isn’t reviewable - it’s especially difficult to tell if the ball was over fair territory (including the base itself) as it passed the front edge of the bag.
@terryrose4804
@terryrose4804 Месяц назад
@@CloseCallSports Thanks for all you do. Your vids give me a lift.
@SgtHolton
@SgtHolton Месяц назад
There's no camera angle that will show you definitively. And not a camera angle that will give you a better angle than the 3B ump who is standing on the line. Even the 'down the line' camera here is slightly in fair territory, and thus will make a ball on the line appear foul from its angle. So CCS is defaulting to believing the 3B Ump to be correct, as there really is nobody else on the field with a better view of the play. He may be right, he may be wrong, but there's no use speculating when you can't know.
@terryrose4804
@terryrose4804 Месяц назад
@@SgtHolton All the videos are based on speculation and conjecture. But may not be the only explanations for the subjects examined. 🖖
@milliesboy666
@milliesboy666 Месяц назад
It was fair because the ump said so
@BIOHAZARDRUSGaming
@BIOHAZARDRUSGaming Месяц назад
Video 9 of Petitioning for an Ejection Pace Counter in the description of every E video!
@boleins9693
@boleins9693 Месяц назад
There definitely was more than 1 BOTCHY-ED calls by the umps
@deputyduffy
@deputyduffy Месяц назад
hey, no one ever said Adolis Garcia is Smart....
@DJTexan
@DJTexan Месяц назад
Why is there a rentacop following Bochy into dugout?
@FrankinDallas
@FrankinDallas Месяц назад
Angel Hernandez needs to subscribe to this channel!
@tappyoklahoma
@tappyoklahoma Месяц назад
on another episode of "the spin zone"....
@stevehamman4465
@stevehamman4465 Месяц назад
So ,, a runner turning to third AFTER passing secound base and is obstructed , it is a delayed dead ball. Then after the play has stopped, the umpire never inflicted punishment for the obstruction!! The runner already had secound, wheres the punishment?? Its not about him going back to second , the rule infraction happened between second and third! The punishment for obstruction should be , runner to third! If not, theres no need to call it!
@alanhess9306
@alanhess9306 Месяц назад
On type 2 obstruction, there is no automatic base award. The umpire judged that absent the obstruction, the runner would not have made it to third base. The umpire was correct.
@warspite1515
@warspite1515 Месяц назад
👍👍
@mickylawless1941
@mickylawless1941 Месяц назад
Your breakdowns are always great! I'm curious as to why umpires do not seem to know the rule book? And as for broadcasters, they too, should bloody well the frigging rules.
@alanhess9306
@alanhess9306 Месяц назад
Just curious as to what happened in this video to make you think the umpires don't know the rule book.
@freddyrenteria4197
@freddyrenteria4197 Месяц назад
👍🏽
@jumperguy9867
@jumperguy9867 Месяц назад
Look at the title of this video. There is no such things as a "Fair Ball Call", at least not a verbal one. It's fair unless an umpire makes a FOUL ball call. Bottom line - if you do not HEAR the umpire audibly call foul ball, it's fair!
@helviojr
@helviojr Месяц назад
Commentators should have to make a rules test before having a license to mislead fans granted.
@minaeldiwany3215
@minaeldiwany3215 Месяц назад
The third base umpire should be the one calling fair or foul ball not the home plate umpire
@vw8886
@vw8886 Месяц назад
Foul but Garcia should have run it out.
@caras2004
@caras2004 Месяц назад
Simple little league fundamentals It's a fair ball until it's called foul.
@dragontm1090
@dragontm1090 23 дня назад
Bochy needs to retire, he can't manage a bullpen to save his life
@Mark-wd5zb
@Mark-wd5zb Месяц назад
The broadcaster did not say anything wrong. Listen again. He clearly says at the 1:46 mark, "because typically you will see on a play like that IN FRONT OF THE BAG, you'll see the plate umpire signal as well." The broadcaster clearly states that the plate umpire makes the call if the ball is IN FRONT of third base and then you go off on a tangent saying the exact same thing the broadcaster said but then saying he was wrong in what he said. Obviously in this case the ball was BEHIND the bag, so it isn't the plate umpire's call but the broadcaster was stating what happens when the ball is IN FRONT of the bag so I don't know why you went off on the broadcaster like that. You cut him off after that so I don't know if we went on to say something incorrect as the audio continued. But the audio you presented here in this video is not incorrect. You owe this broadcaster an apology.
@tw1nn319
@tw1nn319 Месяц назад
"Obviously in this case the ball was BEHIND the bag" so why is the announcer bringing up a play in front of the bag? no apology necessary...
@bethhentges
@bethhentges Месяц назад
@@tw1nn319 To explain why the coach is wrong.
@StaxRL
@StaxRL Месяц назад
lol
@tw1nn319
@tw1nn319 Месяц назад
@@bethhentges I’m pretty sure he’s trying to say that the coach is right, but you can have your own belief regardless
@mikegresham9424
@mikegresham9424 Месяц назад
Runner is safe his feet never went out of base line he was still connected to the ground
@metzilla
@metzilla Месяц назад
your comment has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING
@MikeHart72
@MikeHart72 Месяц назад
What does his feet being on the ground have to do with anything
@mikegresham9424
@mikegresham9424 Месяц назад
Horrible
@protexroofing5939
@protexroofing5939 Месяц назад
That 3B ump made a terrible call earlier in the game on an Evan Carter check swing. Absolute terrible call. Adolis hit a solo shot in the following at bat...wouldve been a 2 run homer if 3B ump had made proper call
@RobBot34
@RobBot34 Месяц назад
you've never actually enjoyed a baseball game before have ya? evan carter struck out on a foul tip...
@critter2
@critter2 Месяц назад
than swing or dont very simple
@COTTAGE81-fp8lc
@COTTAGE81-fp8lc Месяц назад
That Was A Bad Call By The Umpire I'm Glad Bruce Bochy Was Thrown Out Of The Ball Game By The Umpire Man
@dougr188
@dougr188 Месяц назад
And this kids is why you don't do drugs.
@minaeldiwany3215
@minaeldiwany3215 Месяц назад
That was a good call
@griffenberg
@griffenberg Месяц назад
Ball looked fair to me. Any kids who got this far in the comments look at what this guy posted and please stay in school believe me it will be better for you
@Extem1
@Extem1 Месяц назад
Capitalizing every word in a sentence tells everyone know that you're not smart.
@COTTAGE81-fp8lc
@COTTAGE81-fp8lc Месяц назад
@@Extem1 Oh Believe Me My Brother I Am Very Smart My Brother I Really Am Now Bro Period Bro
@dragontm1090
@dragontm1090 14 дней назад
Rada
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