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(E8) Hellcat Raptor 125cc Nibbi Carb side by side comparison Keihin Mikuni. Tuning jetting 

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26mm Nibbi carb comparison and tuning on the Grom clone Hellcat 125. It is way lager all the way around for performance, but is it needed on what I have now? Seems the Nibbi is a bit too much for my configuration but did as good as the Mikuni. I also test which jets will fit in the Nibbi carb
I ended up with a 120 main! After multiple test drives and adjustments.
Keihin jets will fit the Nibi
It doesn't have to be fast to be fun, Create your own adventures
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Nibi 26mm carb: amzn.to/2WbIQ74
Mikuni 26mm carb amzn.to/2WJmhFU
intake adapter swing plate: amzn.to/3drWVTp
It goes pretty good for a 125cc bike (55 mph after tune), suspension is nice, braking is good. 0-50 mph in 19 seconds
Links:
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Shinko Offroad DOT Grom tire set: ebay.to/3dKIoDB
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Frame bolts: The ones on a bike or metric but 5/16-18 or 24 (preferred) 5" long will work. I'd get grade 8, Grade 5 minimum. (ebay.to/2zdtG8a Grade 8) (ebay.to/2L5sCWq Grade 5)
I think it would be an awesome around town or city bike. Just like the clone it is not very fast
Available in Red, White and Blue!
PROS:
Honda clone horizontal 125cc engine
CONS:
no kickstart, Electric only
Specs: (most from Txpowersports website)
HELLCAT 125 ENGINE:
Engine Size: 124cc
Type: Electric start
Transmission: 4 speed manual with clutch
Drive: Chain drive
Cooling: Air Cooled
Ignition: CDI
Fuel Tank Capacity: 1.5 Gallons (5.5 L)
Top Speed: 54 mph (After Mods)
Horsepower: 12 (estimated)
Spark Plug Type /
Gap: A7RTC / 0.6~0.7 mm
Battery: 12V 7Ah (Included)
CHASSIS:
Front Brakes: Hydraulic Disc (Hand)
Rear Brakes: Hydraulic Disc (Foot)
Front Rim: 2.75 x 12 Alloy rim
Front Tires: 120 / 70 - 12
Rear Rim: 3.5 x 12 Alloy rim Rear
Tires: 120 / 70 - 12
Front Suspension: Dual inverted forks
Rear Suspension: Single shock absorber
Ground Clearance: 4.3 Inches (110 mm)
Seat Height: 30 Inches (760 mm)
Wheelbase: 49 Inches (1250 mm)
DIMENSION:
Overall Dimension:
70 x 30 x 39 Inches (1790 x 750 x 995 mm)
Carton Dimension: 64 x 22 x 32 Inches (1620 x 565 x 810 mm)
N.W.: 207 LBS (94 Kgs)
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Комментарии : 308   
@neonafterglow4451
@neonafterglow4451 3 года назад
Watching this just helped me with my bike! Thankyou!
@maverickkartracing
@maverickkartracing 3 года назад
I've watched this video a few times, best video on adjusting carbs I've seen anywhere. Good info since I just ordered a Vader clone last week. I plan to keep the 125 (at least for a while), and I plan to ride it off road, too.
@ccarmean85
@ccarmean85 4 года назад
Been waiting on this video and it was the result I expected with the stock pipe and head. Thanks for making these it's nice to see someone giving people good information, there are so many knuckleheads out there without a freaking clue.
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Thanks!! 😁😁
@ywr969
@ywr969 4 года назад
love your honest reviews, motocheez; that's why you have a loyal following.
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Thanks!
@kevinkyser1274
@kevinkyser1274 4 года назад
Great video! All the info about the carbs, plus how you figure out the right jets, help people like me to tune our bikes! Thanks😁
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
My pleasure
@chadtrombley8951
@chadtrombley8951 4 года назад
Thank you for making these videos. I'm not an engine guy. Bought a new carb for my boys bike. Didn't run right from the install. Took it apart and adjusted the float and it's all good. Never would have had the guts or knowledge to do that without watching your channel. Keep up the great work!
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Awesome!! Glad I could help 😁
@BarnStangz
@BarnStangz 4 года назад
Pretty cool little experiment you did here with the different carbs. I do like how simple they are, but it can be a challenge sometimes. You are right though, the Nibbi will be better suited for something that can move more air. The engine is nothing more than a pump... I'll tell you what would be cool, if they made some kind of fuel injection kit! That is the kind of stuff I'd like to experiment more with!
@sovereignentity4924
@sovereignentity4924 3 года назад
Thank you for your easy to understand explanation on the how to man...🙏 Great breakdown..! 👍
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 3 года назад
TY
@joesjunkgarage
@joesjunkgarage 3 года назад
Great information. Thanks for taking the time to produce this video! Was wondering about a larger carburetor for a Boom Vader 125cc.
@MitchellGWhitehead
@MitchellGWhitehead 4 года назад
Fantastic video brother
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Thanks!
@jacebigelow
@jacebigelow 4 года назад
Great video with lots of tuning !! You did everything right ! 😁👍👍 I was going to say the same thing as another subscriber; I think at this point you are limited by the head's CFM with the small valves. About 25 years ago I did something similar with a radio controlled boat. It had a 22cc 2-stroke McCullough. I took the engine out and mounted it to a weed wacker shaft and line head to act as a 'dyno' and give it a load. A digital engine tachometer gave me "data". I tried 3 or 4 different bigger bore carburetors from various weed wackers and small chsinsaws. All had same mounting pattern, fuel pump diaphragm pulse holes, and Hi & Lo needle valve screws. No matter what I tried, the stock carb (smallest bore) gave the best RPM. So i put the stock carb back in 🤷‍♂️ lol. Hey I have the same DeWalt (rubbermaid) cooler as you, its over 20 years old I think. Serves me well on countless road trips thru VT and NH. Cheers from Saratoga!! 🍻🍻
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Thanks!
@factdesignbr
@factdesignbr 4 года назад
Yaaay finally a new video.
@nitebirdscuffle4213
@nitebirdscuffle4213 4 года назад
Really nice vid....Looks like the Nibbi slide is too large and cant pull enough fuel through......really great example of more is less......thanks again for all the time and effort it takes to post this
@chadcarter9581
@chadcarter9581 4 года назад
This is great information! Thank you it’s a big difference in price I’ll buying the cheaper carb then and save up for the z190 swap
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@Bittydog1956
@Bittydog1956 3 года назад
Hard to beat a mikuni but the intake has to match the exhaust . Good job on the video 🏍🧀🦦
@mrhomegrow
@mrhomegrow 4 года назад
as I suspected, good deal brotha thanks for the video I'll stay tuned for that motor swap
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Sweet! thanks.
@scanadaze
@scanadaze 4 года назад
I put that same carburetor on my 250 Hawk. I also upgraded the exhaust pipe. For power? The hills I used to go up and had to some times shift down into 3rd gear, now I can stay in 5th. I'm a big guy. 40 degree hill at an full stop in the middle of it, way no problems taking off. 45 back tooth and 17 front. For the engine? Only an oil cooler. No other modifications to the motor. Way more power then I will ever use. Only problem I had with the carburetor. Where I live I had to drop the needle to the lowest setting. Other then Idle Jet was to big. Dropped it down and then set my main jet. Hatted it at first. Now I love it. For sound I'm out doing the Harley-Davidson. Now they dont show off around me. I do. Just doing that I turned my Hawk into an really cool monster. Love the thing and that carburetor is yes a pain to get it set but amazing when it is. Take care.
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Awesome
@craigpoling9319
@craigpoling9319 2 года назад
Had the same problem with the 24mm NIBBI on my 125cc Loncin. Changed every jet and needle setting a thousand times but couldn’t get rid of the poor quick-throttle response. Great video!
@user-ru4xb3tn5i
@user-ru4xb3tn5i 8 месяцев назад
What did you go with? I am having same issue, same motor.
@vincekane4119
@vincekane4119 21 день назад
I'm having the same issue
@kevinnashskitchen3517
@kevinnashskitchen3517 4 года назад
Good info. Thanks
@sixpacksandsrts9122
@sixpacksandsrts9122 4 года назад
How about a day in the life video. I could watch you wash dishes even. Hour long video of yours. Damnnnnn
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
LMFAO! Maybe my Vette and my MW3 Rubicon walkthru
@mikeizzano172
@mikeizzano172 4 года назад
Hey Moto ,enjoy watching your exploration haha....it’s always been the same,trying to get the best performance you can without increasing the bore, you made good progress for a motor that fits in your hand. But that’s what makes you tick. Most people just say ,ooh you can’t do that blah blah blah .... but Moto says..let’s see what we can do ! Ask the guys that run the quarter mile in under 4 seconds at 308 mph,that started way back when somebody said,,,ooh you can’t do that ! Good clip as always,make that motor sing.... or at least hum a better tune .
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Thanks. Yes, squeeze every last pinch of power.
@Peep18m
@Peep18m 4 года назад
Nobody talks about the best carb that there is and I’m kinda glad because they aren’t sold out yet 😂😂. I’ll share once I order one and not until then for obvious reasons 😂😂👍🏼
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
I think I know what you're talking about. They're expensive too.
@Peep18m
@Peep18m 4 года назад
MotoCheez yes they are 😁
@Peep18m
@Peep18m 4 года назад
MotoCheez that’s what I’m getting for my 190
@yehudabuehler4780
@yehudabuehler4780 3 года назад
@@Peep18m what is the best one
@MitchellGWhitehead
@MitchellGWhitehead 4 года назад
Oh hell yeah!!!!
@mikeharlick3513
@mikeharlick3513 4 года назад
Speaking of air cleaners, have you come up with some recommends for mini? What size was the k&n filter was that you had?
@keithschneidly3922
@keithschneidly3922 4 года назад
Years ago I put a Dellorto racing carb on a mini bike that had a Tecumseh 4.5 hp flathead with a tube exhaust, belt drive centrifical clutch jackshafted to a chain. It would either smoke the tire or wheelie. That carb unleashed a lot of ponies. The nitro may have helped too. This emogi describes my face after whacking the throttle open 😵
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Hahah. Nice! Yes, a well tuned carb will do wonders
@manusia723
@manusia723 4 года назад
In indonesia we use all type of that carb (PE SERIES) easy setting but you must install velocity stack to get the best result of Air fuel mixure. If you install a pod filter like that, it's hard to get the best result. Cheers🙌
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Makes sense... But I need an air filter for where I ride
@Illness.og.
@Illness.og. 2 года назад
Appreciate this video, I am buying a Hellcat very soon
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 2 года назад
Awesome!
@Illness.og.
@Illness.og. 2 года назад
@@MotoCheez I’m excited I have no experience in carbs or motorcycle engines but I love to learn and it’ll be easy since I know cars
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 2 года назад
Yes!
@randyrejer4219
@randyrejer4219 4 года назад
Very interesting
@naterides1559
@naterides1559 4 года назад
Hey motocheez, I have the TBR7 with a full exhaust and stock carb with a 115 main jet. Would I benefit going with a Nibbi carb? Thanks in advance.
@ephenj
@ephenj 3 года назад
the second isn't a genuine VM26mm carb it looks way more like the nibbi but just not as trick. Very good information regardless about what's out there now for decent prices.
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 3 года назад
These bikes are still hard to get new. Been a shortage all year.
@Slane583
@Slane583 4 года назад
I have a large NIBBI in my wish list on Amazon for my YZ 465 build. Surprisingly, the NIBBI is actually cheaper than the stock Mikuni and far cheaper than the alternative which is a Lectron carb. Since I don't have the bikes original carb I'm gonna try a NIBBI on it. When I'm able to buy all of my parts that is. :)
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Ya the bigger Nibbi carbs are worth every penny
@Slane583
@Slane583 4 года назад
@@MotoCheez Good to know they're worth a buy not being an "offical" Japanese brand.
@Russell_and_Rosko
@Russell_and_Rosko 2 года назад
I might put a 26mm nibbi on my kz200 scrambler build. Free flow exhaust is all that’s done. Stock head. KZ250 internals will fit the 200 case which sounds like an option in the future. I love small bikes if they’re zippy.
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 2 года назад
Nice!
@dragonslayer19695
@dragonslayer19695 4 года назад
Love the videos, and still didn't make it first. LOL. Will keep on trying.
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
You're second, but Jim Woods won before! so Keytag is yours. send me your name and addy instagram or facebook
@l.a.c.1107
@l.a.c.1107 4 года назад
🥳🥳🥳🥳
@toldroyd1
@toldroyd1 4 года назад
awe heck, just throw a pair of Holley double pumpers on it.
@justdetecting2098
@justdetecting2098 4 года назад
Sitting on toillet look up pops up😁
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Like it was meant to be!! Hope it helped :)
@Paul_VanGo
@Paul_VanGo 3 года назад
It seems everybody who bought a Nibbi for its looks had massive troubles with them, and when they went for a 26 'Mikuni' it just ran perfectly, right out of the box... Thanks for the video. I go for the $35 kit, instead of this bling pos paperweight...
@JSNMSR
@JSNMSR 3 года назад
Just recently bought a new hellcat. Changed a few things including changing out the carb for the mikuni. What main jet and needle setting did you end up with on the stock motor?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 3 года назад
Hmm. I don't remember. I think 110 main. Have to check that video I believe I said it on there
@kazamo83
@kazamo83 Год назад
Nice video man.shared it in some groups👍.what did you end up using for pilot?that wasn't listed,thanks!
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez Год назад
Thanks, I don't recall, thought I said in video or description.. 38 maybe?
@kazamo83
@kazamo83 Год назад
@@MotoCheez it was a 40 then cause you said it came with 2 40's 😂.thanks bro!!
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez Год назад
@@kazamo83 haha. See!
@dirtsquadatv2714
@dirtsquadatv2714 3 года назад
Kehin is Pronounced key in. Great video
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 3 года назад
I've heard that, I think I've been saying it wrong my whole life! Thanks
@brianwelteroth9248
@brianwelteroth9248 4 года назад
10x rule again for your intake. (Just like with the corrugated intake on ?Dumpie? was it?) That new carb has a much bigger throttle bottle bore over the stock intake. The semi-immediate air flow step down into the carb and possible out of the carb is experiencing a lower average air velocity through the carb then stock due to turbulence. You need a bigger intake if not also some porting of the head to run that carb.
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
The intake all the way into the head is 26mm, I think it's in the head.
@lukeFugate
@lukeFugate 4 года назад
Would the Nibbi work on the Hawk? Would there be enough of an improvement to be worth it?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
I've seen others do it and get some good results. Of course the one I bought is too small for a hawk
@textor33
@textor33 3 года назад
I tryed 120 main and the stock 40 pilot. Just bogs and high idle I've spent hours trying all kinds without any luck .
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 3 года назад
120 too high. Try 110. What's the slide needle set at? Choke off of course
@gregslair4278
@gregslair4278 4 года назад
I know you're looking at the 190 swap. I've been looking at the Hellcat too, but you an get a Lifan KP-Mini 150 for around $1800 shipped and with exhaust and carb should be close to the 190cc at roughly the same price as the Hellcat + 190 engine? Your thoughts on that?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
The 150 is a 5 speed? I thought the 190 had the Yamaha style top end or something. Almost 18hp? Not sure to be honest. I see now 5 speed... Hmm yeah looks decent.
@charleshoward8971
@charleshoward8971 4 года назад
Should really open up the exhaust too see the difference, it would definitely help breath or flow, could smooth out the exhaust port and the header pipe to match
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Would definitely help a lot
@jcarter855
@jcarter855 4 года назад
I'm still torn, I see the joy of wrenching on the cheaper bikes & saving a TON of cash vs picking up a honda & just hitting the road/trails. Currently around here you could pick up a 2019 grom for about $2700 +tax ect & a 2019 CRF250L for around $4570 plus tax ect or just order the Hellcat + a TBR7/Hawk for about $2600 total shipped... So many conflicting emotions..... :D never should have started watching this channel :) As Always, Thanks Man!! ;)
@jcarter855
@jcarter855 4 года назад
@@MotoCheez For the money I'm thinking you're spot on. So many other places that extra savings could go right now. Plus over here on our side of the U.S. there's only so many Nice days to truly enjoy them before it's gragrage time - unless you're hard core & love to freez your butt off, that is. Thanks much for the deep dive into the carbs man, I'll be putting that knowledge to good use here soon hopefully!!
@jasonjulian1
@jasonjulian1 4 года назад
MotoCheez wait, so you got rid of the Honda too? I hadn't noticed. That was a nice bike, but I didn't see it doing anything that your DRZ or even the Hawk wasnt able to do.
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
I sold the crf250 a while ago and got the DRZ400... Underpowered for a 250, even after the mods... Honda failed on that one. The WR250 way faster
@jasonjulian1
@jasonjulian1 4 года назад
MotoCheez a good call I think. That's what I get for watching your videos out of chronological order..
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
@@jasonjulian1 🤣😂😂😅😅😁👍
@vharrald
@vharrald 4 года назад
Sounds like the bigger carb was not it was all choked up to be...
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
HEHE, see what you did there Santa!
@ronaldprovencher7570
@ronaldprovencher7570 3 года назад
I am going to try it on a MotorSport SSR 140CC wish me luck ..
@frankmc5021
@frankmc5021 4 года назад
Ub40?
@MrKouik
@MrKouik 4 года назад
Maybe the Nibbi would benefit from a velocity stack and a resonator box. Sometimes its the little things that counts... Well thats what my wife tells me! XD
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
It probably would. Velocity stacks help for tuning. I'm waiting on my adjustable angle adaptor then I may play some more.
@whatsup1407
@whatsup1407 4 года назад
Whatever happened to your black C5? You briefly showed it in one of your videos. Lets see how much faster you made that over stock.
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
The C6 I have? I do plan on doing an introduction to it soon :)
@timdoyle8199
@timdoyle8199 4 года назад
Do you think that chamfering or opening up that in take a little bit helped at that point...? Thank you
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
The stock original, yes it did. I messed with it before the larger one came in
@RatdogDRB
@RatdogDRB 4 года назад
Velocity. Without good air velocity, your air/fuel mixture isn't quite as efficient, is it not? So, yes, more airflow capabilities of the head, free breathing exhaust, boost pressure... the benefits of the NIBI may begin to shine.
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Agreed!
@sasqui2001
@sasqui2001 3 года назад
Did you end up putting the needle up to the bottom notch along with the 2nd largest main jet you landed on?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 3 года назад
Yes
@TurboTyler
@TurboTyler 3 года назад
Maybe put a long intake pipe to slow down the velocity, or a long intake pipe with a smaller filter. Also when you put a much fatter jet you need to raise the needle and adjust the a/f screw
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 3 года назад
I've tried combos like that with intake horns. Does work. Fatter jet doesn't mean you have to raise needle or mixture. Mixture screw is idle to 1/8 throttle roughly. The needle fine tunes 1/4 to 3/4 mixture, main jet is 3/4 to WOT. All overlap a little if course
@EasyRiderGreg
@EasyRiderGreg 4 года назад
I remember when I was 18, I put an 800 CFM carb on Barracuda I had and it just bogged when I would stomp on the gas. I had to step down to a 700 CFM.
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
I remember those days!! Quadrajet!
@skyb8687
@skyb8687 4 года назад
@@MotoCheez quadra puke..(actually some dudes could tune em)and I'm 36
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
I can still tune them! They're rough. Metering rods...
@skyb8687
@skyb8687 4 года назад
@@MotoCheez you old timers know all the tricks !! Just joking motocheez you rule!
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
We got bored a lot more with nothing to do. No cellhones etc so we tinkered 😁
@bikebros5880
@bikebros5880 3 года назад
You need the nibbi 26 for that bike. I got a 28 for my lifan kp mini150 and it works great
@shevonsmith27
@shevonsmith27 3 года назад
Hi I have a kp mini to with the nibbi pwk carb but cant get it to run right. What jets did you use???
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 3 года назад
I listed in description, I think it was a 105 main and 45 primary....
@napadaanlng69
@napadaanlng69 2 года назад
I have the 115 nibbi jettings and a 115 unbranded jets you can get from motorcycle shops. They are different sizes the 115 nibbi jets are smaller despite the same number size. But when I check the 122-125 nibbi jettings, it turned out to be the same with the 115 unbranded jettings? I dunno if its only me with the nibbi brand jets?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 2 года назад
Hmm, I thought they were same as Keihin jet numbers...
@hopper1072
@hopper1072 4 года назад
So I know that you sold your Brozz 250, but would you purchase one for in town and fire road/dirt road/powerline riding? I’m new to off road riding, have been street riding for 27 years. I’m looking to expand my types of riding. I would appreciate your thoughts, I love your shows!
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Yes. They're perfect for that! I have a comparison chart on motocheez.com depending on what you're looking for.
@hopper1072
@hopper1072 4 года назад
MotoCheez Yes, I have seen it. Just was curious as to why you got rid of it and not one of the other bikes
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
My friend Tim begged me for it, he rode it several times in my videos, I had 17 bikes! Had to sell off a few. I'm down to 14 bikes now...
@hopper1072
@hopper1072 4 года назад
MotoCheez slacker🤣
@thomaswaldorf9141
@thomaswaldorf9141 4 года назад
Open exhaust up a little and try timming change. advance a little.also do a little porting on the head
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
That would do it for sure. I ordered a ZS190
@throttlefamily4655
@throttlefamily4655 4 года назад
I thought the same thing on ours I have similar videos I finally got the nibbi dialed in and released a video on it they are so finicky. You have done almost everything right mine is on a ssr 125 so very similar motor. I personally prefer the cheap amazon mikuni over the nibbi. I had to run a 120 main and 48 pilot but if you have your air screw off by just a tad. These carbs run like garbage it may be because they are machines so nice that the air isn’t getting disrupted. I know someone running a 28mm on there ssr 125 and it runs great so too big in this case is not actually the case. Great video love the content just wanted to share my experience with you as well.
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Agreed. But my exhaust I'd why it may have been too big. I did get it to run good and they are finiky
@throttlefamily4655
@throttlefamily4655 4 года назад
MotoCheez yes they are. I had to do the same and take the carburetor off several times. Maybe your exhaust is to restrictive.
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
It is
@JoshRex7ven
@JoshRex7ven 4 года назад
Where do you buy your jet kits?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Ebay and Amazon, I have links in video and on Motocheez.com
@joshuadempsey9422
@joshuadempsey9422 Год назад
Idk if you messed with the air adjustment on that nibbi but I think you could've had it going 64 mph if you got it tuned just right plus your take off from 0 to 35 would be outstanding
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez Год назад
I did
@joshuadempsey9422
@joshuadempsey9422 Год назад
@@MotoCheez ok I just didn't see it on video I guess. My bad brother. Just tryin to help you guys out 👍
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez Год назад
The air adjustment controls the part throttle and idle mixture in relation to the primary jet.
@kevinkev1530
@kevinkev1530 2 года назад
👍🏾👍🏾
@kevinmarshall5102
@kevinmarshall5102 3 года назад
What jet sizes with the second carb?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 3 года назад
I think I did 105... Sorry I forget
@Jesus-eu4gn
@Jesus-eu4gn 2 года назад
Holy crap. Can you do a detailed guide on how you just identify when its lean or rich?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 2 года назад
I will next time I do a rejetting
@Jesus-eu4gn
@Jesus-eu4gn 2 года назад
@@MotoCheez thank you! I see that you can determine if its lean/rich just by sound. I want to learn that too
@jeep89ltd
@jeep89ltd 4 года назад
What jets did you use for the mikuni? I can't get mine to run right, bogs everywhere all over the throttle
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
I had one in my old kit.. I have links on motocheez.com what size in it now?
@jeep89ltd
@jeep89ltd 4 года назад
@@MotoCheez I'm not sure, whatever came with it. Trying to get an idea of where to start with the mikuni, any ideas? I'm in PA, about the same elevation as NY
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Try a 105 main with needle up one notch (one notch down on needle)
@poweron1807
@poweron1807 4 года назад
Don't you think you get a few more MPH with street tire or the stock tire?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Yes
@nocarebear8301
@nocarebear8301 4 года назад
3:34 seconds in........ hold on, let me go get a Popsicle.
@captainkush8423
@captainkush8423 11 месяцев назад
Did you leave the throttle cable stock, I'm replicating your 125 build
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 11 месяцев назад
Yes I kept the stock throttle cable had just enough slack when you adjust it all the way in
@mgoody8782
@mgoody8782 2 года назад
If your going to mess with carbs invest in the Gunson Colortune kit
@jeffomspaugh6691
@jeffomspaugh6691 2 года назад
Where can you find the mikuni intake?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 2 года назад
The links should be in description of the video
@thomasm6769
@thomasm6769 Год назад
maybe 24 nibbi for that bike I live at 8000 feet I like how Mutch air it lets in I have 17cc carb and it takes 45cc air filter its on habor fraight predator 79cc after some fiddling and it was not easy its on a motorized bicycle it perzzz Thay have chart for engine cc Mikuni for me was hard to get the right jets nibbi had them on the small carb in the kit for 80 cc good luck
@jamesrogers4674
@jamesrogers4674 2 года назад
Did moving the needle and staying with 40 work with the primary jet?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 2 года назад
Yes
@jamesrogers4674
@jamesrogers4674 2 года назад
Thanks. Just tried out a 24mm nibbi that bolts to the manifold. Has a 35 in the pack so I assume it has a 40 installed but it needs a little more fuel. Wasn't able to do much testing before dark.
@jamesrogers4674
@jamesrogers4674 2 года назад
Don't have a metric tape but the head porthole is tiny. Probably 18 or 20mm it's much smaller than the inside diameter of the factory manifold tube. Probably going to try my hand at porting in the near future.
@mmaaddict78
@mmaaddict78 4 года назад
Would a hotter spark plug help at all?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
It does depending on driving habits for sure
@timdoyle8199
@timdoyle8199 4 года назад
I have a stock PZ26 on my KP Mini 150, Trying APZ27I have opened up the air Box I've installed aftermarket performance pipe runs and pulls very well but I am getting a missing in a popping in 1st gear at about quarter throttle, 115 main jet 42 pilot jet needle clip 2nd from the bottom,, Maybe too large of a pilot jet?? ( The popping and missing seems to be happening at quarter ish throttle 1st and low 2nd gear
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Try moving the needle 2 the other way. Your mixture adjusts that somewhat too...
@timdoyle8199
@timdoyle8199 4 года назад
Went with a 38 pilot jet and 112 main and it seems pretty good now, Saint thanks for the help and all the great videos
@irocss85
@irocss85 2 года назад
Did you go back to the mikuni then?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 2 года назад
Nibbi
@larrylucas5731
@larrylucas5731 4 года назад
May have to port and polish the head?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
That would def help
@goofyleo3869
@goofyleo3869 4 года назад
Crap! Not 1st because I was out on my Brozz 'RECON'. 😬
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
WOOT! Hows she running?
@goofyleo3869
@goofyleo3869 4 года назад
@@MotoCheez So far; she's 'tits'. Just hit the 100mi mark and gotta check valve clearances. Luv it..luv it...luv it.. Thanks, Boss. 😎
@adanmendoza7517
@adanmendoza7517 4 года назад
Whats your elevation? Are you at sea level?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
600 feet
@j.p.g.3168
@j.p.g.3168 2 года назад
What elevation are you?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 2 года назад
About 700 feet
@davidxj73brown70
@davidxj73brown70 3 года назад
How do I get the minkuni carb and intake for the hellcat I can't find the link lol any help is much appreciated
@davidxj73brown70
@davidxj73brown70 3 года назад
And do I need to change anything like jet I have an after market exhaust on mine
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 3 года назад
MotoCheez.com in the hellcat section. Yes you'll need to change jets
@warrenpeas
@warrenpeas Год назад
was that a genuine mikuni? and have you tested the pz26?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez Год назад
I doubt if.it was genuine. China made Mikuni, say Mikuni on it
@warrenpeas
@warrenpeas Год назад
@@MotoCheez in the facebook group clone army a lot of people say the pz26 is tuned very well out of the box. have you had any experience with it? its only 24$ plus the 8$ manifold on amazon
@ironwolfF1
@ironwolfF1 4 года назад
"It's too big..." ...that's what she said. 😜
@fettieteam2333
@fettieteam2333 Год назад
24mm
@D.C.G.22
@D.C.G.22 2 года назад
Main jet is for idle, and the secondary jet is for full open throttle. You shouldve adjusted the secondary jet.
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 2 года назад
Nope. Main jet is for 3/4 to full throttle. It's way bigger than primary jet which is part throttle to 3/4 roughly
@07scoobywrx
@07scoobywrx 4 года назад
Pretty sure the proper sizing, is the size of the slide! Small one is an 18mm second is the very popular vm22 which is a 22mm carb and in my opinion the best for a 125cc pit bike /grom clone! The nibbi is a 28mm and way to much carb for a 125 pitbike/grom clone
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
The sizes I put were correct, I ordered the mikuni and Nibbi new. The measurements showed. Yes the Nibbi is too big either way 😁 and the mikuni works best for me.
@07scoobywrx
@07scoobywrx 4 года назад
MotoCheez ehh I’m pretty sure it’s the size of the slide that determines what size carb it is!
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Not. It's the bore on intake side. I'm certain.
@daves984
@daves984 4 года назад
If you are doing a motor swap. You can pick up salvage ninja or cbr 250r or 300r for cheap money.
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Won't fit properly, I've seen people out all kinds of motors on these but they're too big
@drchan5893
@drchan5893 4 года назад
try welding up the head as much as possible build-up that compression..... just hook up some nitro ( YOU KNOW THAT SAYING Go hard or go home ) show your viewers something radical
@danielschultz1438
@danielschultz1438 3 года назад
Hahahaha that made me laugh thanks
@Timberwolf35546
@Timberwolf35546 4 года назад
Are you going to 300cc swap the hellcat?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
190. They're 18hp which is more than enough 😁
@timdoyle8199
@timdoyle8199 4 года назад
Great vid I agree too much carb is too much I ordered a28 mm nibbi for my Lifan KP mini 150cc (with the vertical style engine) Just bolted on the performance exhaust but I'm thinking keep the 26 mm stock carb PZ 26..... And make sure it's jetted properly and possibly even open up the intake slightly it's all trial-and-error is and it thanks for another great video you kind of verified what I sort of already knew but how much is too much hay??
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
True, nothing like hands on!
@jcastbruh1583
@jcastbruh1583 4 года назад
Tx Powersports upped there price of the Hellcat to $1,239 it no longer seems that they are eating shipping fee for it even though it states free shipping. Oh well.
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
It's the new import fees I heard, they all went up.. idk
@mmmasterscross7915
@mmmasterscross7915 4 года назад
You you using 10 percent Ethanol gas?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Pump gas yeah
@kurticus
@kurticus 3 года назад
By any chance could I know the elevation your at?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 3 года назад
I'm at 700 feet
@kurticus
@kurticus 3 года назад
@@MotoCheez thanks dude!!!
@dorohnmosley548
@dorohnmosley548 4 года назад
Would you see any reason to upgrade to the 190cc over the 212cc??
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Cost. The 190 is almost half the price
@dorohnmosley548
@dorohnmosley548 4 года назад
Where did you get your 190?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
David Bullock in zs190 swap FB group. $700 delivered.
@katana258
@katana258 4 года назад
yes to big a carb can be held back by the size of the intake port of the cyl head and valve opening .. at one point its just no return .. one hits the limit like you say with out porting or muffler to remove the burned fuel faster .. then throw in the cam design for chugging low rpm power through the low speed dirt ... air jorden's on grandma will not make the old cow run faster ...with out some meth/speed ..then the rods.. piston , rod brgs are at risk
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Good analogy :)
@theoutlaw01
@theoutlaw01 Год назад
It will work swap the carb to a 24m
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 9 месяцев назад
24 too small
@SL4US
@SL4US 3 года назад
Did you swap the needles out?
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 3 года назад
Swap from where? I kept needle with carbs
@SL4US
@SL4US 3 года назад
@@MotoCheez you can swap the needle out for one with a different taper or size
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 3 года назад
Oh. Ok. Didn't know what you were asking. No I didn't. I usually just shim or end up buying another larger carb
@sk8erdf19
@sk8erdf19 2 года назад
So your running a 40 pilot and 120 main. I have the nibbi 24 and having issues with blipping the the throttle. Just falls on its face or back fires an dies. Running a 35 pilot and 108 main with needle clip 2nd from the bottom. If i ease into it its fine. Mixture screw is 1 turn out.
@sk8erdf19
@sk8erdf19 2 года назад
Im also about 685 elevation
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 2 года назад
Try dropping the needle down one groove (one groove up with clip) and open the mixture to 2 or 2 1/2 out. Let me know
@sk8erdf19
@sk8erdf19 2 года назад
Nope made it worse
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 2 года назад
Must be rich, try going down w needle.
@sk8erdf19
@sk8erdf19 2 года назад
If i take filter off and look in throttle when opening it up the fuel just pours out but isnt being it sucked up so yea rivvh
@carlpeters9523
@carlpeters9523 4 года назад
now you will need to fill the front forks , with gas , just to go on reserve to get back home .
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
😁😁😁😁
@7eis
@7eis 4 года назад
Tiny truck bed for tiny carburettors👍
@MotoCheez
@MotoCheez 4 года назад
Sure is!
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