Early Medieval Guilds

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0:00 What are guilds and 'gilds'
1:05 Migration Period & possible connection of gilds to Rome
4:42 Protection Gilds
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6:35 Protection Gilds
8:27 Religious Gilds
9:42 Social Gilds
10:53 Conclusion
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@MLaserHistory 2 года назад

Go to nordvpn.com/laserhistory to get a 2-year plan plus 4 additional months with a huge discount! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Extra Information & Sometimes Corrections if Needed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 0:05 Of course, all Guild and Gild banners presented in this video are just an artistic representation of a guild banner not actual historical ones. 0:10 (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BL6k3YMgATg.html) Actually, I "WILL" make a video about that. I sadly didn't have time to make and release both of the videos at the same time. Sorry. I am aiming to release the guild video at some point early next year. I know that seems far away but, I already have many other things that I need to work on. But, at least you get an extra secret short video from me :) 0:13 The picture of the Hanseatic League (a high to late medieval merchant guild) structure refers specifically to the Hansa "Contors". ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nk62itTxwuk.html The Hansa was structured differently in German cities. 0:33 They also call them 'gilds' because that's what the early medieval sources call them sometimes. The word 'guild' did not emerge before the high middle ages. Of course, the word guild did evolve from the earlier word gild. 3:43 Also, there could be areas where the collegia survived and morphed into the early medieval gilds, areas like modern day Italy or the Iberian peninsula, all while areas of the Frankish Empire and modern day Britain could have had a whole new "Germanic" system of gilds emerge. Basically there could be a lot of nuance present. 5:08 Origin and Creation: London Guilds of the Twelfth Century, Katherine Payne 7:02 For most of his reign Odo of France (reign 888-898) was in a struggle against Charles the simple over the control of the Western Frankish Throne. Odo mostly controlled northern France (although in reality it was a much more complicated separation of control/loyalties between the two monarchs than just a simple north south divide) hence the map in the video tried to showcase that. Odo eventually died and Charles won. 7:19 Since the establishment of the gild required the peasants to swear oaths of loyalty to each other. Kings viewed this as an act of disobedience because the only authorities within a kingdom you should swear an oath to is the king and the church. This may seem like a small symbolic thing today but back than the swearing of oaths was taken very seriously. 7:25 These Saxon companion gilds mostly include the Saxon Stellinga (but not only them). Here, the definition of the gild can be easily applied to a well known political Saxon movement, and even though some historians would be reluctant to call the Stellinga gilds, for this video I am going with the paper by Naismith Rory "Gilds, States and Societies in the Early Middle Ages." which does classify them as gilds. 10:45 Naismith, Rory. "Gilds, States and Societies in the Early Middle Ages." Early Medieval Europe 28, no. 4 (2020): 627-62. 11:28 The mandated frequent prayers in many social gilds where also often supposed to be conducted for the well being and good health of the fellow members of the gild. It was, in essence, yet another insurance cooperation, however, this time a spiritual one rather than a monetary one. 11:40 Renard, Georges François, G. D. H. Cole, and Dorothy. Terry. Guilds in the Middle Ages, p. 18. Video scripts with all my sources are available for free on my Patreon.

@charleskendrick4997 Год назад

iiiiiii

@rogerwilco2 Год назад

Why do you pronounce Gild as gjild, but Guild as gild?

@MLaserHistory Год назад

@@rogerwilco2 because there is no 'u' in gild, and 'i' in latin is a soft 'e' sound making it sound like there's a 'j' there when I try to pronounce it.

@paularsenal8014 2 года назад

Imagine trying to defend your community from viking raids and the king just fucking murders you

@MLaserHistory 2 года назад

Yeah, that was literally my reaction when I read about it.

@LuisAldamiz 2 года назад

The Frankish kings were only worried about their own power, they did not care much about Viking raids... until they looted Paris, then they made a deal with the Vikings: from now on you'll be called Normans and will speak French, oulala!

@wokeuplikethis7729 2 года назад

**RAID: SHADOW LE-**

@IAsimov 2 года назад

It still happens. In Mexico, in the state of Michoacán, after the Cartels there got too much power to the point the authorities were practically nonexistent, they formed self-defense militias in order to fight against them, as it was composed by farmers who got fed up with their cruelty. Only after THAT happened, did the federal government actually get involved to fight against said self-defense militias. That did NOT fly well with the media, whenever if for the fact the government ignored the people under attack until they actively defended themselves, or for the fact they went against people that wanted to defend themselves (at the time). Last I heard, the government made an agreement with some self-defense militias to train them to become proper police forces. That said, lack of legal regulation corrupted their purpose, and the self-defense militias that did not regulate ended up employing the same means as the Cartels... and ended up forming *another* Cartel. Seeing the history of it, a morbid part of me makes me understand why Kings did it. King Odo of France, for instance, should not have left the crisis escalate to the point of people forming their own militia, so he's still an asshole. But, in a very machiavellian sense, power you are not wielding is power that may be dangerous to you. After King Odo ignored them for too long, it was either cutting the problem at the root, or risk letting them become a new state after getting the weapons and the means to do so.

@garyoakham9723 2 года назад

@@IAsimov this is why Mexico needs a duerte. Nobody will like you but your action will save the country

@LuisAldamiz 2 года назад

The Basque county of Araba (Álava, a very old self-ruled area conquered by Asturias in the late 9th century, probably also including Biscay early on) was a scenario of the fights against a major protection guild(s), known as hermandades, who fought against bandits who were actually petty lords. They were powerful enough to force the monarchs to accept their rules and they are tightly related to to the formation of the self-ruled late medieval and modern county, which has in its schuteon the legend "justicia contra malhechores" (justice against wrongdoers) based on those constituent guild struggles.

@warrcoww6717 2 года назад

Gilds seem pretty badass, most people see the early Middle Ages in a pretty negative light, but between social Gilds and the early medieval warm period it sounds like a decent time to me. Better than the 1300’s anyway.

@IAsimov 2 года назад

While I wouldn't go as far as preferring to live in the medieval era over the current one, it's a really fascinating era that shows plenty of light even after the fall of the roman empire. The average peasant was self-sufficient, community was a focus, and there was more gender equality than people assume. Hell, I've always found it fascinating how female brewsters were the norm, and they were rich women since everybody loved booze (brooms to signal beer was ready, knowledge of ingredients to boil in a pot, cats to kill pests, old age and power... ever wonder where the image of the witch came from?) It was only with the Black Death, the writing of the Malleus Maleficarium, and the centralization of power, when things really went to shit. Sure, the passing of the Black Death meant peasants had more political and economic power, but it also meant the Church and the Monarchies got more power later on, and that both women and non-catholics saw their rights suffer.

@BrazilianImperialist Год назад

The "dark" ages were pretty light

@theposhdinosaur7276 Год назад

Nightmare mode: being a german peasant in the 1600's.

@kelor123 Год назад

@@theposhdinosaur7276 yeah, with the religion wars and nobilty feud, it's sucks.

@mokkaveli Год назад

@@theposhdinosaur7276 sixth circle of Hell mode: being an athletic young boy from Sparta during the Peloponnesian War

@thomasvertommen9526 2 года назад

Hi, greetings from Antwerp here, loved the video. In case you're interested in Guilds in today's context: I myself am part of the Saint Michael's Guild of Antwerp. There are also likewise guilds in Bruges, Gent and Gouda. We in Antwerp were "resurrected" a few years ago. Each of these tries to honour the tradition and function of the old protection guilds, and tries to keep some of their traditions alive. In essence; it's a fencing guild in Historical European Martial Arts (HEMA), following the 16th-century written rules for fencing with multiple weapons (longswords, rapiers, daggers, staves, halberds,...). We also keep the "Dodenminne" (=+-remembrance of the dead) in which we gather around a memorial tile in the Cathedral of Antwerp dedicated to one of the Headmen of the Guild and honour the dead members of our guild and those dear to us who are deceased. Or the King's Tournament, which is basically an annual tournament to decide who is the best fencer of the guild. With all the honorary rituals and services included. For example, Antwerp's St-Michael's guild was founded and approved of in 1488 by Maximilian of Habsburg, and would be responsible for his protection when he visited the city, as well as form the official professional core of the city's militia; mostly offering what we'd consider "officers" or "NCO's" today, capable of leading the more semi-or-non-professional militiamen. There are to this day also old archery -and riflemen's guilds -based on crossbow and arquebusier guilds of the middle ages up untill the French revolution, after which all the protection guilds were formally disbanded and their assets seized. If you're interested, our current Headman is quite deeply informed in all this history and its nuances :)

@JelMain Год назад

You have, for example, the crossbowmen's guild In Brussel, which had a range near St Gudula, and iirc had a relationship with yours. They seem never to have finished, and still meet for papegai shoots in the Pajottenland.

@shryggur 2 года назад

So, basically, fantasy warrior guilds are more OG than industrial guilds from your typical history coursebook. I wonder if there was a real mage guild/gild somewhere at some point.

@albertoftasmania Год назад

He said that there were occult gilds.

@yuin3320 Год назад

In medieval Europe such would have been stigmatized as "dealing with demons" or at the very least as heresy. So those that existed probably kept it so quiet they may not have had physical records, or they made sure said records stayed well _well_ away from the church's view. Now that you got me thinking about it, there were probably a ton of smaller gatherings of people trying to research magic throughout the centuries of the medieval era. It's not like when the church came around, absolutely everyone universally decided "Y'know what? These guys know what's up. We should let them dictate everything and erase centuries upon centuries of our ancestors' work that informed how we relate to and view the world."

@majorian4897 Год назад

Neo-Platonism is a heresy and will be crushed by the local bishop lol

@shryggur Год назад

@@albertoftasmania Wasn't it like about Roman proto-gilds aka hobby clubs, though?

@shryggur Год назад

@@yuin3320 from that perspective, the church and its monasteries and orders could be interpreted as guilds of some sort. Or, since the Church was centralized, more like its "departments" or "bureaus," none of them being about mere magic, unfortunately. A fun topic to explore in some fantasy/alt-history setting for sure

@godule1 2 года назад

Very detailed and professionally explained subject. Always a good time when M.Laser History pop in my feed

@joeuoe1998 2 года назад

In the late medival even special "knights only" guilds came up - I know about the ones in Frankonia (todays North of Bavaria) und Upper Palatia (East of todays Bavaria), which formed a kind of a local governmental assembly, because there were no bigger lords between them and the Kaiser.

@MLaserHistory 2 года назад

Yeah the early medieval Saxon Companion Gilds were very similar to those.

@JelMain Год назад

The classic being the Templar knights of the Ardennes, at first just a fistful. The big change in the Black Death saw large numbers of landless retainers roaming the land as freebooters, picked up in Dufay's L'Homme Armé folk mass (c1433), which was a folksong commandeered by him to promote Christ/St Michael in Judgment.

@Stuugie. Год назад

Gilds sounds almost like a general word used for any semi official organizing group of people, very interesting stuff

@MLaserHistory Год назад

Yeah, sometimes it definetly was. However, other words like collegia still existed and were used, so the question is what difference did the writers see in gilds vs other institutions when they chose to use one of the words over the other. A problem with this whole topic is that there simply has not been enough research done into it. There's only a couple of articles and no books or any substantial body of work, so what we know about these gilds now could change drastically ones someone writes a book about it or does a PhD dissertation on it.

@thePyiott Год назад

Gilde is a word for party in the Norse language. The word gilde originally meant payment so there is no surprise that a gilde in viking age Scandinavia was a festive gathering where business was discussed with some religious element to it as well.

@mikabitar2945 2 года назад

that was a great video I'm leaving a comment for the algorithm good luck

@MLaserHistory 2 года назад

The algorithm gods see and accept your offering.

@overwatchaddict2732 Год назад

It worked. 1 year later though. What an algorithm

@matheusalves5160 Год назад

After 1 year, it worked. Better late than never, i guess

@nickbtggl4396 Год назад

Me too

@benparo171 Год назад

God speed soldier, a year late is better than never

@cinemaipswich4636 Год назад

In Roman Times they also had guilds. The recipe for making red glass, and cement was lost for nearly 80 years. Trade secrets run throughout history. The word "Apprenticeship" is derived from the guilds. Rembrandt's painting, "The Night Watch" is a form of guild.

@DaRealKakarroto 2 года назад

As a native german speaker, 'guild' translates to "Gilde", as does probably 'gild' (don't trust the computer translator which suggest "vergolden" since it refers towards 'to gild', so not a noun), so it is quite the challenge to properly tell them apart. Another term would be great to not confuse these two, but I struggle to come up with a good substitute, "Klub" (club) came to mind but might cause another confusion ...

@petrosbaliouskas7293 2 года назад

This was an amazing video! Thank you so much! I watched plenty of videos discussing how guilds operated in the late medieval period, but you're the first one I'm watching talking about their origins

@domenigo97 Год назад

Man, this is so interesting. I think guilds are often overlooked in medias and fiction, even though they would bring in such an interesting dynamic for example in the politics of a city. I could see guilds playing a role in stories like a song of ice and fire

@silesiaball9505 2 года назад

Never heard of gilds before Great video Can't wait to see the next interesting topic

@MLaserHistory 2 года назад

OU the next one is a banger, trust me ;)

@tristansoendergaard7867 2 года назад

@@MLaserHistory oh really?

@jonnyadkins451 2 года назад

Knee-deep in schoolwork at the moment so I keep having to fight the procrastination and stop myself from clicking on what comes up in my recommended, but I always make an exception for your videos:)

@ludvercz 2 года назад

Ngl that entertainment involving bears and dancing girls sounds fun.

@JelMain Год назад

The National Youth Theatre movement has it's home in The Bear Pit, a youth company in Alleyn's School, with a direct descent from Shakespeare's impressario, who inherited the Southwark Stews (well, via several generations of his wife's family) from the Archbishop of Winchester. Outside of London's square mile, anything went, and was rivalled in gang culture by the East End, and the heritage seems to have only died down recently with the gentrification of the area. This in turn raises the issue of wider migrations and the existence of trade enclaves on the Thames, protecting Hanseatic interests, and others.

@ThisisBarris 2 года назад

Great video man! Always found these guilds fascinating.

@georgejanzen774 2 года назад

Nice one! Always good to see another video from you.

@Loweves2 Год назад

Just found this. Extremely useful in a project I'm in the middle of. Awesome stuff.

@RoderickVI 2 года назад

Its untrue collegia died, or that they cannot be linked to medieval guilds. In Catalonia we had col.legis all the way up to 1714, and gremis (guilds) at the same time. The difference was col.legis were for artists (those who studied the liberal arts), so lawyers, financiers, etc. Guilds were for hand labourers, like smiths and tailors.

@joeuoe1998 2 года назад

Nice maps of the germanic migrations into the roman empire. But one thing was wrong: There was never a tribe of "Franks", but the later Franks were a collection of leftover germanic soldiers in Gaul. They were headed by a cohort of rider-soldiers originally from Sarmatia, also beeing left in the Westerwald (todays South of Belgium).

@historydawn9982 2 года назад

Wow I like your content. Editing and narrating make your channel my favorite. Your work should be admired . You are deserve more subscriber I hope you must gain 1 Million subscriber by the end of this year. Please keep continue this type of amazing work. Your admirable hard work and deep research make you the best channel on RU-vid.

@MLaserHistory 2 года назад

Thanks.

@mercenaryeyes 2 года назад

So entertaining, knowledgeable and very precise, i enjoyed every second and i wish i could see more and say more but it seem like you have done it already.

@gabrielp4392 2 года назад

Great explanation! Thank you!

@gorillaguerillaDK Год назад

Interesting, we call having a party/feast, to have a "gilde"…. "Drikkegilde" and "Ædegilde" are words we use about a party/feast where there’s a lot of drinking or a lot of eating!

@LongTran-kp3kz Год назад

This was a PERFECT video to both learn some quick history facts and help get material for fiction worldbuilding! Nice!

@joeuoe1998 2 года назад

Even knights from bordering areas like the Westerwald or the Vogtland (Terra Advocatorum) joined these assemblies to strenghten their stands at home.

@darkbrightnorth Год назад

These are very interesting parts of labour and production and education that people just don’t remember too often these days. Great video!

@lightbox617 Год назад

A recent 5 week stay in Florence was a tour of buildings created in the 13th to 17th Century by guilds. Wool, iron, pharmacy leather crafters and more built major structures and commissioned major public art.

@ronanlooney3112 2 года назад

Solid video on Middle Ages’ frats

@PakBallandSami 2 года назад

M laser makes the best videos

@lukaocallaghan8595 2 года назад

Now I just feel silly

@jtgd 2 года назад

I’ve been bamboozled too early in the morning

@JelMain Год назад

The clan structure of early Brussels turns around seven famiglias, each named for a non-topological knight, T'Serhugues, for example, each based around a form of peel tower/donjon. Although they had some family identity, they stretched far further, and in some ways had later echoes in Munich beerhalls.

@hlibushok Год назад

First I was really confused where is that "High to Late Medieval Guilds" video and why it refers to the video about Public Works Hermits instead. Only then did I realize that Matus is a genius planning his video releases years ahead. Kind of.

@MLaserHistory Год назад

Yup :D genius! Not at all lazy or inconstant with uploads and topics.

@drose6437 Год назад

One of the few good history channels on youtube

@benjaminvonstein 2 года назад

For the ‘rhythm

@rubenheutink1271 2 года назад

Gotta give reaction this video must go viral

@MLaserHistory 2 года назад

Thank you :)

@migamaos3953 2 года назад

love your channel bro

@holyfreak8 Год назад

Great video man! Really interesting topic. Greetingsfrom Argentina! 🇦🇷

@Hy-jg8ow 2 года назад

Cool! Thanks for the video!

@noshame2389 Год назад

Very informative!

@Remesayy 2 года назад

You deserve more views, comment for the algorithm

@fratwood_biz 2 года назад

Your videos are fantastic

@johnnymartinez478 Год назад

A very 2016 style youtube info great job memory lane

@ManuelTorres-vq8ov 2 года назад

Imagine people in 1000 years discussing what was a club

@commiecat5879 Год назад

If a local chess club organizes to save innocents maybe people someday will

@rehelm3114 Год назад

Amazing!! 🎉❤

@TheRealKiRBEY Год назад

Hitting that medieval zaza while frolliping in the wheat farm

@bassoftramz3988 2 года назад

awesome video

@FroggyHopScotch30 4 месяца назад

Those medevil cats were really repping their set. They was Fr Gang Gang!!! On fo nem!!!!

@Artur_M. 2 года назад

The protection/military gilds seem very interesting.

@MLaserHistory 2 года назад

They were very weird institutions. The ones in cities like London were basically police cooperatives while the rural ones could literally sometimes resemble bandit groups, kind of like Robin Hood, but also, in the case of the Saxon ones, they could be considered as peasant armies in a way. Kind of like a lot of small versions of the National Guard of the Paris Commune. Also, as always with these things, there's a blurred line between what could be considered a bandit group, a gild institution, a popular uprising against Frankish power, or all of the above.

@codyfarrell8965 2 года назад

Great video!

@lukatroopa4291 Год назад

Great video

@kingjoe3rd 10 месяцев назад

This concept reminds me of Mardi Gras organizations that exist where I live.

@cupidsfavouritecherub9327 2 года назад

This is cool. Subbed 👍

@samwich9242 Год назад

Great vid

@mark-be9mq 2 года назад

Thank you, and God bless.

@noone4700 Год назад

Amazing !

@jackmclaughlin648 Год назад

Very good video.

@gamikewolf 2 года назад

Amazing content.

@pietroamaral6769 2 года назад

Great video! Although what are your sources? There were none in your Patreon. Would love to read more on this topic...

@MLaserHistory 2 года назад

In the script. Download the script. www.patreon.com/posts/foundation-of-57633720?

@pietroamaral6769 2 года назад

@@MLaserHistory Thanks very much my friend! Love you videos!!

@rollout1984 Год назад

My beloved Knights of Columbus would have fit in well back then.

@liveforever9888 2 года назад

Interesting video 👍

@lordsneed9418 Год назад

very interesting! I wish depictions of medieval europe focused on this more instead of just war and disease and filth

@superlitin1 Год назад

Hell yeah, too few videos about this topic

@sarcasmo57 Год назад

How do I start a guild?

@sauronmordor7494 2 года назад

yes

@bradthebrewer5732 Год назад

Could you also do a video on how the East (Byzantines) did Gilds? Love the video!!!

@MLaserHistory Год назад

Maybe someday. First I need to do the promised high medieval guilds video.

@leodalbahutt4757 Год назад

Very cool

@bensantos3882 Год назад

The whole time i watched this I immediately thought of and hoped you would make a Fairy Tail Guild reference for pop culture sake. Apparently you must be a Sabertooth Guild member or one of the Dark Guilds that is hurt for being unregistered!

@TylerThomas Год назад

it would be so cool if @warhorsestudios would make KCD2 and incorporate guilds.

@Boombox69in Год назад

Well done, thank you!

@eezokk Год назад

I like history and you made non sensationalist history accessible. Very nice

@elliottprehn6342 Год назад

Hell yea

@jiveturkey9236 Год назад

Solid

@iannnn1455 Год назад

So partying priests was a thing. cool😎

@agarcia8312 2 года назад

Intresting

@user-dq9qt7uw5q Год назад

ANOTHER FUCKING AMAZING VIDEO. I LOVE MEDIEVAL ECONOMICS

@Luigi110067 Год назад

Cool!

@VonPlanter 2 года назад

I'm new fan

@lindsaykania106 2 года назад

nice

@lukerp2291 2 года назад

Here is another comment to boost this video good sir

@kingtunip6386 2 года назад

guild just seems like an early system of Insurance companies, unions and or militia.

@SizzleCorndog Год назад

Damn can’t believe historians made guilds from world of Warcraft into a real thing

@mongolhorde5827 Год назад

yay yay woohoo!

@karamanid Год назад

Time to re play guild 2

@dQuigz 2 года назад

You made a video in the past referencing a video you're going to make in the future or is this time travel?

@MLaserHistory 2 года назад

Yes

@dQuigz 2 года назад

@@MLaserHistory nice

@benjaminstevens4468 2 года назад

Algorithm says: FEED ME, Seymour!

@VieneLea Год назад

So... Where's your previous guilds video? I can't find a link, even browsing your profile returns nothing

@MLaserHistory Год назад

Ahhhh, sooo, that was a "genius" in the future prediction from me thinking I will make a high medieval guilds video at some point in the near future and than this video could point to that video. But, stuff got in the way, and yeah, that video has still not been made, sorry. It's definetly on the to do list though! When it will get made, however, I have no idea.

@VieneLea Год назад

@@MLaserHistory ahh sorry! Thanks a lot for your answer!